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I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a
new LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that
the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a
geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still
apply to NEC LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
I use Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any
other suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)

nb  

-- 
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Reply notbob (921) 12/24/2011 9:36:17 PM

notbob wrote:
> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a
> new LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that
> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a
> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still
> apply to NEC LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
> I use Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any
> other suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
> 
> nb  
> 
I have found samsung syncmasters to be very good value for money.


Not the greatest viewing angle, but unless you are all round watching 
internet porn who cares.
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Reply tnp (2255) 12/24/2011 10:34:45 PM


On 12/24/2011 04:36 PM, notbob wrote:
> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a
> new LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that
> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a
> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still
> apply to NEC LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
> I use Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any
> other suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
>
> nb
>
At 62, by some folks' reckoning I qualify for geezerhood, and while it's 
still pretty good my eyesight isn't what it was 30 years ago, either.

I bought a refurbished 23-inch Samsung LCD about seven months ago. I was 
using Mandriva 2010.2 back then, Mageia 1 now. The default out-of-the 
box brightness setting was WAY too high, much brighter than my old NEC 
XE21 CRT. I had to cut it about in half.

This is the only LCD I've used, so I can't compare it to any others. 
However, I think a Samsung would have all the brightness you require. I 
know I'm happy with mine, and another refurbished Samsung, this one a 
20-incher, is due to arrive here for my brother's computer Tuesday.

TJ
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Reply TJ70 (53) 12/24/2011 10:44:13 PM

On Saturday, December 24th, 2011, at 21:36:17h +0000, Not BoB wrote:

> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.

To get a good comparison of many monitor models (but not all)
have a look at reviews at

<http://www.lesnumeriques.COM/moniteur-ecran-lcd/guide-achat-meilleurs-moniteurs-ecrans-lcd-a899.html>

including side by side comparisons of monitor images.
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Reply miller (474) 12/25/2011 1:26:40 AM

On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:36:17 +0000, notbob wrote:

> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a new
> LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that the
> older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a geezer
> with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still apply to NEC
> LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger. I use
> Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any other
> suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
> 
> nb

IMHO there is no advantage whatsoever in skimping on monitor which will be 
with you for many years to come.
May I suggest:
1) Prefer an IPS panel wrt a TFT one. More expensive but quality is on 
another planet
2) Nothing smaller than 24", 1920x1200 resolution, makes sense.
Remember than a 20" crt 4/3 is tall approximately like a current 24" 16/10
display, so it's not easy to compare the two surfaces.
3) Most monitors have max resolution of 1080p. This translates to fairly 
cheap tft panel which belongs to a tv set rather than a computer display. 
Avoid that models if you aim at a quality display.
4) Best colours are not (yet) a characteristic of led monitors.
5)Most popular displays pump up default luminosity at such levels you need 
shades  to read.


For brands, NEC and Dell Ultrasharp line are excellent choices.

About display card. For linux prefer nvidia and proprietary drivers, which 
allow you to change contrast, luminosity, and anything else at your will.
Use only native panel resolution.
Do not use cheap dvi or vga cables.
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Reply no69 (367) 12/25/2011 2:09:22 AM

On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:36:17 +0000, notbob wrote:

> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a new
> LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that the
> older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a geezer
> with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still apply to NEC
> LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger. I use
> Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any other
> suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
> 
> nb

Get a 24" Monitor, it will be easier on your eyes and they are cheap. All 
monitors are compatible but HDMI connections do the best job of auto-
configuring. Monitors all come with multiple connector types on them, at 
the very least they will have DVI and D-Sub but most modern monitors have 
HDMI also. All relatively modern graphics cards have DVI, new cards 
usually have HDMI also (look at the connectors on your card to see what's 
supported). If you buy a new card then make sure you get one that supports 
both DVI and HDMI. LED back lighting is also a feature you want.

Check Newegg for reviews and for specials, today's special is 24" ASUS for 
$190 ($30 bucks off). Don't know if adjust-ability is important to you, if 
so then Dell's have really good height adjustments. If you want to attach 
to an arm then make sure that you get one that has VESA mounting support.

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Reply schvantzkoph (1875) 12/25/2011 2:27:00 AM

On 12/24/2011 05:44 PM, TJ wrote:
> On 12/24/2011 04:36 PM, notbob wrote:
>> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying. I will cave and buy a
>> new LCD. My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors. I know that
>> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors. As a
>> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important. Does that still
>> apply to NEC LCD monitors? I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
>> I use Slackware. Don't see any compatibility issues. Should I? Any
>> other suggested choices welcome. Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
>>
>> nb
>>
> At 62, by some folks' reckoning I qualify for geezerhood, and while it's
> still pretty good my eyesight isn't what it was 30 years ago, either.
>
> I bought a refurbished 23-inch Samsung LCD about seven months ago. I was
> using Mandriva 2010.2 back then, Mageia 1 now. The default out-of-the
> box brightness setting was WAY too high, much brighter than my old NEC
> XE21 CRT. I had to cut it about in half.
>
> This is the only LCD I've used, so I can't compare it to any others.
> However, I think a Samsung would have all the brightness you require. I
> know I'm happy with mine, and another refurbished Samsung, this one a
> 20-incher, is due to arrive here for my brother's computer Tuesday.
>
> TJ

Forgot to mention - my LCD came from Overstock.com. If you don't mind 
the idea of a refurb, that's a good place to look. Big selection, 
low-cost shipping.

Refurb reliability is very close to that of new, if not even a bit 
better in some cases. While often last year's models, going refurb is a 
good way to get better features at a lower price.

TJ
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Reply TJ70 (53) 12/25/2011 1:50:04 PM

On 12/24/2011 04:44 PM, TJ wrote:
> On 12/24/2011 04:36 PM, notbob wrote:
>> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying. I will cave and buy a
>> new LCD. My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors. I know that
>> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors. As a
>> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important. Does that still
>> apply to NEC LCD monitors? I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
>> I use Slackware. Don't see any compatibility issues. Should I? Any
>> other suggested choices welcome. Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
>>
>> nb
>>
> At 62, by some folks' reckoning I qualify for geezerhood, and while it's
> still pretty good my eyesight isn't what it was 30 years ago, either.
>


<snip>

I am also 62 and a few years ago I was in the middle of a project and my 
15" screen was not cutting it.

I was so frustrated I just went on line and ordered the first cheap 
monitor I could find...I did no research at all and got a 22" KDS for 
about $200.

Works absolutely fine.

I have two machines that use the monitor via a KVM switch and noticed 
that the video on my Linux installation was considerably crisper than my 
XP install.

Turned out that Linux probed the monitor at 1680x1050
which is actually *greater* than the monitor's native resolution.
I later changed my XP install to the same and noticed an improvement.

I was not sure if going over the native resolution would hurt anything
but I guess not, as I have been running things this way for over two years.


Now , as to being 62.

I was at a Christmas party last night and one of the first things 
someone asked me was "Are you retired?"

The answer is "NO"


sheesh
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Reply philo4 (216) 12/25/2011 1:55:06 PM

philo <philo@invalid.not> writes:

> On 12/24/2011 04:44 PM, TJ wrote:
>> On 12/24/2011 04:36 PM, notbob wrote:
>>> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying. I will cave and buy a
>>> new LCD. My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors. I know that
>>> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors. As a
>>> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important. Does that still
>>> apply to NEC LCD monitors? I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
>>> I use Slackware. Don't see any compatibility issues. Should I? Any
>>> other suggested choices welcome. Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>> At 62, by some folks' reckoning I qualify for geezerhood, and while it's
>> still pretty good my eyesight isn't what it was 30 years ago, either.
>>
>
>
> <snip>
>
> I am also 62 and a few years ago I was in the middle of a project and
> my 15" screen was not cutting it.
>
> I was so frustrated I just went on line and ordered the first cheap
> monitor I could find...I did no research at all and got a 22" KDS for
> about $200.
>
> Works absolutely fine.
>
> I have two machines that use the monitor via a KVM switch and noticed
> that the video on my Linux installation was considerably crisper than
> my XP install.
>
> Turned out that Linux probed the monitor at 1680x1050
> which is actually *greater* than the monitor's native resolution.
> I later changed my XP install to the same and noticed an improvement.
>
> I was not sure if going over the native resolution would hurt anything
> but I guess not, as I have been running things this way for over two years.

Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
Yep.  If this is your monitor:

http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp

1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.

> Now , as to being 62.
>
> I was at a Christmas party last night and one of the first things
> someone asked me was "Are you retired?"
>
> The answer is "NO"

66.  Expect to work at least to age 70.
Full time from home and summers off isn't that hard after all.

-- 
Dan Espen
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Reply despen2 (190) 12/25/2011 3:00:53 PM

On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:

> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>
> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>
> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.

I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".

nb

-- 
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
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Reply notbob (921) 12/25/2011 3:13:58 PM

On 12/25/2011 09:00 AM, Dan Espen wrote:
> philo<philo@invalid.not>  writes:
>
>> On 12/24/2011 04:44 PM, TJ wrote:
>>> On 12/24/2011 04:36 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying. I will cave and buy a
>>>> new LCD. My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors. I know that
>>>> the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors. As a
>>>> geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important. Does that still
>>>> apply to NEC LCD monitors? I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
>>>> I use Slackware. Don't see any compatibility issues. Should I? Any
>>>> other suggested choices welcome. Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>>
>>> At 62, by some folks' reckoning I qualify for geezerhood, and while it's
>>> still pretty good my eyesight isn't what it was 30 years ago, either.
>>>
>>

<snip>

> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>
> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>
> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.


Aha!  So it's right on the money and from Linux it was set correctly 
then. XP , by default had it set to 1440 x900 and I guess I assumed that 
was the native resolution. Thanks for the correction
>
>> Now , as to being 62.
>>
>> I was at a Christmas party last night and one of the first things
>> someone asked me was "Are you retired?"
>>
>> The answer is "NO"
>
> 66.  Expect to work at least to age 70.
> Full time from home and summers off isn't that hard after all.
>

I plan to keep my full time job until I'm 65 or 66...
but hardly expect to quit working.
I do a lot of volunteer work and will increase that
plus I have more personal projects to complete than I can count.
Hopefully I'll still be at work until I'm 99 years old
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Reply philo4 (216) 12/25/2011 3:30:19 PM

notbob <notbob@nothome.com> writes:

> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>
>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>
>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>
> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".

You can make an LCD pretend to be at other resolutions but unless it's
an even multiple the result won't be good.

A 1680x1050 can do a reasonable 840x525 by just showing each pixel 4
times.  Other numbers introduce rounding errors and text won't look
good.

I think you might be able to mess with the DPI settings to get
better results.

I sometimes need to use VNC for a windows system with a smaller
resolution.  I execute this command to magnify the window:

xrandr -s 1024x768

back to native mode is:

xrandr -s 1600x1200

-- 
Dan Espen
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Reply despen2 (190) 12/25/2011 3:41:12 PM

On 12/25/2011 10:13 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen<despen@verizon.net>  wrote:
>
>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>
>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>
>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>
> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>
> nb
>
You can set it lower than native and it'll work, but like philo said 
about his, it won't look as "crisp." On the plus side though, with a 
wide screen you'll have fewer pages that you can only view with 
horizontal scrolling.

TJ
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Reply TJ70 (53) 12/25/2011 3:41:13 PM

On 24 Dec 2011 21:36:17 GMT, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

>I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a
>new LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that
>the older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a
>geezer with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still
>apply to NEC LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
>I use Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any
>other suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)

Here's a vote for Acer from another 62-year-old.  I've had Samsung
monitors that were nice too, but lately I've been buying Acer 22"
units.  Usually have to turn the brightness down.

Happy holidays,
Bill
-- 
William D Waddington
william.waddington@beezmo.com
"Even bugs...are unexpected signposts on
the long road of creativity..." - Ken Burtch
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Reply william.waddington (214) 12/25/2011 3:49:53 PM

In <jd5k25$8mf$2@news.albasani.net> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

> I have found samsung syncmasters to be very good value for money.
> [...]

   Not only that, they also provide some real exercise when those
electrolytic capacitors in the power supply need to be replaced.
Been there, done that with my 204B.

   Eddi ._._.
-- 
      e-mail: dk3uz AT arrl DOT net  |  AMPRNET: dk3uz@db0hht.ampr.org
               Linux/m68k, the best U**x ever to hit an Atari!
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Reply dk3uz (7) 12/25/2011 5:28:23 PM

notbob wrote:
> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>
>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>
>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
> 
> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
> 
> nb
> 
ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the 
software level rather than hardware.

I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything 
appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..
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Reply tnp (2255) 12/25/2011 7:20:12 PM

On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:36:17 +0000, notbob rearranged some electrons to
say:

> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a new
> LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that the
> older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a geezer
> with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still apply to NEC
> LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger.
> I use Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any
> other suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
> 
> nb

Staples had a special a month ago or so on 20" HP S2031 monitors for $89 
each. I bought two and retired both CRTs.
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Reply none18 (390) 12/25/2011 9:03:22 PM

On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>>
>>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>>
>>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>> 
>> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
>> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
>> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
>> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>> 
>> nb
>> 
> ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the 
> software level rather than hardware.
>
> I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything 
> appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..

If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
website.  It defaults to 120% but can be set to any increase from 120%
to very much higher, perhaps 200%; can also set the preferred zoom
for any particular website.  Nosquint also can just zoom the text
only instead of the webpage.

A boon for my eyesight!  Separate versions available for windows &
linux.  Doesn't work for the desktop where one has to adjust it via
kde's config or gnome's comparable method.

The kde people did away the ability to adjust the default font size
beginning with what came with suse 11.3.  It worked like the stupid
apple crap with no system font adjustments allowed, at least since
2004.  At least with the opensuse 12.1, the kde version had increased
the system font size to quite readable on a 22" monitor.
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Reply file-box02 (27) 12/25/2011 9:41:47 PM

anotherpaul wrote:
> On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>>>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>>>
>>>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>>> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
>>> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
>>> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
>>> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>> ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the 
>> software level rather than hardware.
>>
>> I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything 
>> appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..
> 
> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
> website.  It defaults to 120% but can be set to any increase from 120%
> to very much higher, perhaps 200%; can also set the preferred zoom
> for any particular website.  Nosquint also can just zoom the text
> only instead of the webpage.
> 
Firefox will zoom the whole shebang with no plugin needed..Crtl + does 
it usually


Most programs have zoom capability.

The desktop and screen generally will zoom with the DPI setting on the 
screen advanced general settings..


There is no reason NOT to set the LCD to native: do that then tweak 
everything else top taste.
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Reply tnp (2255) 12/25/2011 11:07:53 PM

On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> anotherpaul wrote:
>> On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>>>>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>>>> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
>>>> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
>>>> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
>>>> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>>
>>> ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the 
>>> software level rather than hardware.
>>>
>>> I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything 
>>> appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..
>> 
>> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
>> website.  It defaults to 120% but can be set to any increase from 120%
>> to very much higher, perhaps 200%; can also set the preferred zoom
>> for any particular website.  Nosquint also can just zoom the text
>> only instead of the webpage.
>> 
> Firefox will zoom the whole shebang with no plugin needed..Crtl + does 
> it usually

The zoom isn't fine enough as the zoom is done at a preset value; even
Firefox has the ctrl + which doesn't do a decent job all the time.
Safari & Chrome also have the ctrl + & still doesn't do what I want
& just changing font sizes get overlaps & disappearing text at some
sites.

Well, to each their own preferences;  I prefer the tighter control I 
have with Nosquint.

>
>
> Most programs have zoom capability.
>
> The desktop and screen generally will zoom with the DPI setting on the 
> screen advanced general settings..

Have done that & it isn't adquate enough for me.
The choice is in the user's domain & how bad is the eyesight.

>
>
> There is no reason NOT to set the LCD to native: do that then tweak 
> everything else top taste.
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Reply file-box02 (27) 12/26/2011 2:24:09 AM

On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:41:47 +0000 (UTC), anotherpaul wrote:
>
> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
> website.  

I had no need for a plugin. I looked around in settings and under
Preferences->Content Advanced button, I found I could set the minimum font size.
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Reply BitTwister2 (1226) 12/26/2011 11:35:16 AM

On 2011-12-26, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:41:47 +0000 (UTC), anotherpaul wrote:
>>
>> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
>> website.  
>
> I had no need for a plugin. I looked around in settings and under
> Preferences->Content Advanced button, I found I could set the minimum font size.

My standard procedure for any browser that I try.  Don't think
I missed too many ways of changing the font sizing.  I was even
bitching about win7 until I found that the method of changing the
system font was changed from winxp & references to it were hidden.

Still doing the min font size even when using nosquint.  Then the
minimum font sizing don't work on a Mac & not all what a browser
displays is controlled by the font size in the browser.  e.g. the
menu toolbar is controlled by the system font & can't be changed
by the browser.

At least in windows, there is a way to change fonts & sizes for
different parts of the panels & a separate font/sizing for the
desktop icons.  Apple wants the user to do things the Apple
way in lowering the resolution of a hi-rez monitor to see larger
fonts.
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Reply file-box02 (27) 12/26/2011 5:16:54 PM

On 12/25/2011 04:41 PM, anotherpaul wrote:
> On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher<tnp@invalid.invalid>  wrote:
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen<despen@verizon.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>>>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>>>
>>>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>>>
>>> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
>>> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
>>> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
>>> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>> ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the
>> software level rather than hardware.
>>
>> I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything
>> appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..
>
> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
> website.  It defaults to 120% but can be set to any increase from 120%
> to very much higher, perhaps 200%; can also set the preferred zoom
> for any particular website.  Nosquint also can just zoom the text
> only instead of the webpage.
>
> A boon for my eyesight!  Separate versions available for windows&
> linux.  Doesn't work for the desktop where one has to adjust it via
> kde's config or gnome's comparable method.
>
> The kde people did away the ability to adjust the default font size
> beginning with what came with suse 11.3.  It worked like the stupid
> apple crap with no system font adjustments allowed, at least since
> 2004.  At least with the opensuse 12.1, the kde version had increased
> the system font size to quite readable on a 22" monitor.

With KDE 4.x in Mandrivas before 2011 and Mageia, KDE system fonts and 
sizes can be changed via System Settings. The same may be true of 
Mandriva 2011 - I haven't tried it.

I use the Theme Font and Size Changer extension with Firefox and 
Thunderbird to change menu and dialog box fonts. For display fonts I 
usually just use Ctrl+ to temporarily magnify the whole thing, because I 
usually want the graphics bigger in that case, too.

TJ
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Reply TJ70 (53) 12/26/2011 5:53:20 PM

On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:36:17 +0000, notbob wrote:

> I need a new monitor, my last CRT be a'dying.  I will cave and buy a new
> LCD.  My question is, how are the NEC LCD monitors.  I know that the
> older NEC CRT monitors were "brighter" than other monitors.  As a geezer
> with marginal eyesight, this is important.  Does that still apply to NEC
> LCD monitors?  I'll probably be going min 20" or larger. I use
> Slackware.  Don't see any compatibility issues.  Should I?  Any other
> suggested choices welcome.  Thank you and Merry Christmas. ;)
> 
> nb

You should have no issues. Find one you like at a decent price and get 
it. If you buy locally, you should be able to have them demo it for you.
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Reply ray65 (5398) 12/26/2011 6:37:08 PM

In comp.os.linux.misc anotherpaul <file-box02@no-hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> anotherpaul wrote:
>>> On 2011-12-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> notbob wrote:
>>>>> On 2011-12-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Strange.  An LCD monitor only has one resolution.
>>>>>> Yep.  If this is your monitor:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kdsusa.com/k22mdwb.asp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1680x1050 is the right and only resolution.
>>>>> I wasn't aware of that.  Can the viewed resolution be changed?  I
>>>>> can't see those high resolutions.  Currently, I'm at 1024x768 and am
>>>>> constantly having to zoom web pages.  I used to use 800x600 on 17"
>>>>> CRTs, but this CRT is a 19".
>>>>>
>>>>> nb
>>>>>
>>>> ther is a way in Windows to essentially 'make everything bigger' at the 
>>>> software level rather than hardware.
>>>>
>>>> I think you change DPI rather than screen resolution and everything 
>>>> appears ..bigger - but the LCD is still running at native resolution..
>>> 
>>> If using firefox, get the Nosquint plugin/extension from the mozilla
>>> website.  It defaults to 120% but can be set to any increase from 120%
>>> to very much higher, perhaps 200%; can also set the preferred zoom
>>> for any particular website.  Nosquint also can just zoom the text
>>> only instead of the webpage.
>>> 
>> Firefox will zoom the whole shebang with no plugin needed..Crtl + does 
>> it usually
> 
> The zoom isn't fine enough as the zoom is done at a preset value; even
> Firefox has the ctrl + which doesn't do a decent job all the time.
> Safari & Chrome also have the ctrl + & still doesn't do what I want
> & just changing font sizes get overlaps & disappearing text at some
> sites.
> 
> Well, to each their own preferences;  I prefer the tighter control I 
> have with Nosquint.

Ctrl mousewheel has finer gradations than C+/C-. I normally use it in
preference to the C+/- variants.

Another useful hint: View -> Page Style -> No Style will eliminate
colors, especially useful on pages where there's a fg/bg combination
that's difficult to read. 

	Jerry
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