Question about plonking in Pan - comp.os.linux.misc

Is it possible to plonk messages using certain criteria in ALL newsgroups? For example, I tried plonking using Subject -> contains and a string like "MI5 Persecution". Then Group -> matches regular expression, then use * or *.*, or something similar. I'm trying to block this idiot that is posting these MI5 Persecution messages everywhere! -Thanks

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:54:01 -0500, somebody wrote: > Is it possible to plonk messages using certain criteria in ALL > newsgroups? As an example from ~/.pan2/Score %BOS [*] <=== Score: =-9999 %Expires Message-ID: googlegroups.com %EOS

somebody wrote: > Is it possible to plonk messages using certain criteria in ALL > newsgroups? For example, I tried plonking using Subject -> contains and > a string like "MI5 Persecution". Then Group -> matches regular > expression, then use * or *.*, or something similar. I'm trying to block > this idiot that is posting these MI5 Persecution messages everywhere! > I am about to give up on several newsgroups altogether. It is becoming more and more hopeless. The MI5 persecution one is one of the worst. This @$$hole is morphing, though, and the _MI5 Persecution_ no longer works very well. I tried going after M'I.5, and so on, but he does all permutations of the basic characters. The bot that posts thing that may be grammatically correct, but are actually total nonsense is another pain. It has gotten that any server that puts this stuff out gets banned by me in both Thunderbird and slrn. I no longer accept email from gmail, hotmail, or yahoo. This does not help much, and perhaps I miss stuff I would like, but I cannot get a thousand or more of these crappy posts every day (not all in the same newsgroup). Some of my friends no longer use the UseNet anymore and use controlled mailing lists instead. There seems to be much less of this there. It won't take much more before I unsubscribe from this newsgroup and several others altogether. It has been destroyed by this insanity. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 09:20:01 up 18 days, 9:50, 4 users, load average: 4.66, 4.39, 4.20

Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> writes: > somebody wrote: >> Is it possible to plonk messages using certain criteria in ALL >> newsgroups? For example, I tried plonking using Subject -> contains and >> a string like "MI5 Persecution". Then Group -> matches regular >> expression, then use * or *.*, or something similar. I'm trying to block >> this idiot that is posting these MI5 Persecution messages everywhere! >> > I am about to give up on several newsgroups altogether. It is becoming more > and more hopeless. > > The MI5 persecution one is one of the worst. This @$$hole is morphing, > though, and the _MI5 Persecution_ no longer works very well. I tried going > after M'I.5, and so on, but he does all permutations of the basic characters. Hi, Using GNUS I set up an RE match of M.I.5 and haven't seen Mike's stuff for weeks. The sporge attack is more work to deal with. I've had the same feeling, we are just not evolved enough to be able to have open forums.

On Fri, 04 Jan 2008, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc, in article <7qrfj.1$Z61.0@trnddc07>, Jean-David Beyer wrote: >I am about to give up on several newsgroups altogether. It is becoming >more and more hopeless. ]User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070317) This is getting to be like a broken record. I hate to say how often I've been posting the following advice in the past two-three weeks: 1. Scream at your ISP/News_provider - most of them with clue managed to figure out their customers may leave if they don't filter. See also the moderated group 'news.admin.net-abuse.policy' 2. Get a real news reader The first solution is going to take some time at verizon, as they seem to be extremely clue-resistant. Changing to a different news provider may actually be easier. The second solution - Thunderbird really lacks a lot of capability. If you do want to use it, try an off-line spooler, such as leafnode or slrnpull. >The MI5 persecution one is one of the worst. This @$$hole is morphing, >though, and the _MI5 Persecution_ no longer works very well. I tried >going after M'I.5, and so on, but he does all permutations of the basic >characters. Some people are finding luck using 'M.*I.*5' both in the Subject and From headers. Others are killing on the number of newsgroups the crap is cross-posted to (the Xref: header). >It has gotten that any server that puts this stuff out gets banned by >me in both Thunderbird and slrn. If you're referring to MI5 crap, I'm not seeing that. The sporge runs caused me to set some temporary rules, but that's all. >I no longer accept email from gmail, hotmail, or yahoo. Yup - been doing that for a while. >It won't take much more before I unsubscribe from this newsgroup and >several others altogether. It has been destroyed by this insanity. 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 Offered 38505 34096 33645 32415 30140 266 Killed 6131 5450 7898 7961 12628 162 Percent 15.9 16.0 23.5 24.6 41.9 60.9 That's to 15:00 UTC on the 5th. The last figures are a little misleading, because beginning in mid-August, I began dropping all posts from googlegroups.com here, and a lot of the step in 2007 is probably related to that. Old guy

Moe Trin wrote: > On Fri, 04 Jan 2008, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc, in > article <7qrfj.1$Z61.0@trnddc07>, Jean-David Beyer wrote: > >>I am about to give up on several newsgroups altogether. It is becoming >>more and more hopeless. > > ]User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070317) > > This is getting to be like a broken record. I hate to say how often > I've been posting the following advice in the past two-three weeks: > > 1. Scream at your ISP/News_provider - most of them with clue managed > to figure out their customers may leave if they don't filter. See > also the moderated group 'news.admin.net-abuse.policy' > 2. Get a real news reader > > The first solution is going to take some time at verizon, as they seem > to be extremely clue-resistant. Changing to a different news provider > may actually be easier. > > The second solution - Thunderbird really lacks a lot of capability. If > you do want to use it, try an off-line spooler, such as leafnode or > slrnpull. > >>The MI5 persecution one is one of the worst. This @$$hole is morphing, >>though, and the _MI5 Persecution_ no longer works very well. I tried >>going after M'I.5, and so on, but he does all permutations of the basic >>characters. > > Some people are finding luck using 'M.*I.*5' both in the Subject and > From headers. Others are killing on the number of newsgroups the crap > is cross-posted to (the Xref: header). > >>It has gotten that any server that puts this stuff out gets banned by >>me in both Thunderbird and slrn. > > If you're referring to MI5 crap, I'm not seeing that. The sporge runs > caused me to set some temporary rules, but that's all. > >>I no longer accept email from gmail, hotmail, or yahoo. > > Yup - been doing that for a while. > >>It won't take much more before I unsubscribe from this newsgroup and >>several others altogether. It has been destroyed by this insanity. > > 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 > Offered 38505 34096 33645 32415 30140 266 > Killed 6131 5450 7898 7961 12628 162 > Percent 15.9 16.0 23.5 24.6 41.9 60.9 > > That's to 15:00 UTC on the 5th. The last figures are a little misleading, > because beginning in mid-August, I began dropping all posts from > googlegroups.com here, and a lot of the step in 2007 is probably > related to that. As I've said before, I use Leafnode. It can filter on any header including the Path: & with the right filters makes newsgroups readable again. As an example: comp.os.linux.advocacy: considering articles 1468455 - 1468657 comp.os.linux.advocacy: 85 articles fetched, 117 killed -- <Holly>: It takes time, this. One slight error in any of my thirteen billion calculations and we'll be blasted to smithereens. Here we go, then: 10, 9, 8, 6, 5-- <Rimmer> Holly, *where's* 7? --Red Dwarf--

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc, in article <mvi555-vf4.ln1@wp.archimedes.eu>, William Poaster wrote: >Moe Trin wrote: >> The second solution - Thunderbird really lacks a lot of capability. >> If you do want to use it, try an off-line spooler, such as leafnode >> or slrnpull. >As I've said before, I use Leafnode. It can filter on any header including >the Path: & with the right filters makes newsgroups readable again. While you are using a spooler such as leafnode or slrnpull, you have to make a decision about "cheap" verses "expensive" scoring. "Cheap" means the eight headers that are returned from an XOVER query - that is From:, Subject:, References:, Date:, Bytes:, Lines:, Message-ID: and Xref:. Any other header requires that the reader or spooler query the news server for _each_ and _every_ article. Now if you are running your news download from a cron-job at Oh-Dark-Thirty, perhaps the added delays[1] won't matter, but otherwise it would be better to avoid expensive rules. If your new _reader_ is local to the spool, then you can use those expensive rules on the news reader if needed. >As an example: >comp.os.linux.advocacy: considering articles 1468455 - 1468657 Not a problem: [compton ~]$ grep advocacy /var/spool/slrnpull/score Xref: advocacy [compton ~]$ Anything posted to any group that has the string 'advocacy' in the name is dropped - that's an "all groups" rule. Old guy [1] In my experience, download time increases by a factor of 6 or more.

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