I want to boot Linux on a Pentium II 1998 or so machine, with limited
RAM and a small HD (about 20 GB or so), a CD-ROM and floppy, and a
(real) modem (I think it's US Robotics).

Will the below .iso files, if I burn them onto a CD, allow me to boot
Linux and surf the web (I assume that the files, being so small, don't
have any apps on them, like a web browser, but somehow I can load
these later, that's not a big deal).

In short, what will the below files allow me to do?

Please don't speculate.  Don't tell me what you think they should do,
in your mind's eye.  Read the above carefully.  Look at my hardware.
This is not a modern machine.

"thanks"

RL

puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso  (Puppy Linux) 95 MB

current.iso  (Damn Small Linux) 49.9 MB

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:38:15 -0800, raylopez99 wrote:

> I want to boot Linux on a Pentium II 1998 or so machine, with limited
> RAM and a small HD (about 20 GB or so), a CD-ROM and floppy, and a
> (real) modem (I think it's US Robotics).
> 
> Will the below .iso files, if I burn them onto a CD, allow me to boot
> Linux and surf the web (I assume that the files, being so small, don't
> have any apps on them, like a web browser, but somehow I can load
> these later, that's not a big deal).

Of course they have apps on them, they have the entire distro on them.
Both are very small, not as fancy as full-size distros, but perfectly
functional. If you'd bothered to look them up on distrowatch or gone over
to their websites you'd know that.

> 
> In short, what will the below files allow me to do?

They're not 'files'. They're ISO images. Burn them as bootable CD images.
You do know how, don't you?

> 
> Please don't speculate.  Don't tell me what you think they should do,
> in your mind's eye.  Read the above carefully.  Look at my hardware.
> This is not a modern machine.

We know that. 

-- 
Kier

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:38:15 -0800, raylopez99 wrote:

> I want to boot Linux on a Pentium II 1998 or so machine, with limited
> RAM and a small HD (about 20 GB or so), a CD-ROM and floppy, and a
> (real) modem (I think it's US Robotics).
> 
> Will the below .iso files, if I burn them onto a CD, allow me to boot
> Linux and surf the web (I assume that the files, being so small, don't
> have any apps on them, like a web browser, but somehow I can load these
> later, that's not a big deal).
> 
> In short, what will the below files allow me to do?
> 
> Please don't speculate.  Don't tell me what you think they should do, in
> your mind's eye.  Read the above carefully.  Look at my hardware. This
> is not a modern machine.
> 
> "thanks"
> 
> RL
> 
> puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso  (Puppy Linux) 95 MB
> 
> current.iso  (Damn Small Linux) 49.9 MB

How much RAM do you have? 

raylopez99 wrote:

> I want to boot Linux on a Pentium II 1998 or so machine, with limited
> RAM and a small HD (about 20 GB or so), a CD-ROM and floppy, and a
> (real) modem (I think it's US Robotics).

Why not just try one of the many Linux-on-a-CD's,
eg Knoppix or Fedora KDE Live CD?
These will give you a good idea how Linux will run on your machine.

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:38:15 -0800, raylopez99 wrote:

> I want to boot Linux on a Pentium II 1998 or so machine, with limited
> RAM and a small HD (about 20 GB or so), a CD-ROM and floppy, and a
> (real) modem (I think it's US Robotics).
> 
> Will the below .iso files, if I burn them onto a CD, allow me to boot
> Linux and surf the web (I assume that the files, being so small, don't
> have any apps on them, like a web browser, but somehow I can load
> these later, that's not a big deal).
> 
> In short, what will the below files allow me to do?
> 
> Please don't speculate.  Don't tell me what you think they should do,
> in your mind's eye.  Read the above carefully.  Look at my hardware.
> This is not a modern machine.
> 
> "thanks"
> 
> RL
> 
> puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso  (Puppy Linux) 95 MB
> 
> current.iso  (Damn Small Linux) 49.9 MB

1) how much RAM?
2) they will probably boot
3) using a Live CD, it is not even necessary to have a hard drive. All
that is needed is the ability to boot from the CD.
4) they both containall the apps you're likely to need - certainly
several web browsers.
5) burn them as 'ISO image' rather than as a data CD.

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:38:15 -0800, raylopez99 wrote:

> I want to boot Linux on a Pentium II 1998 or so machine, with limited
> RAM and a small HD (about 20 GB or so), a CD-ROM and floppy, and a
> (real) modem (I think it's US Robotics).
> 
> Will the below .iso files, if I burn them onto a CD, allow me to boot
> Linux and surf the web (I assume that the files, being so small, don't
> have any apps on them, like a web browser, but somehow I can load these
> later, that's not a big deal).
> 
> In short, what will the below files allow me to do?
> 
> Please don't speculate.  Don't tell me what you think they should do, in
> your mind's eye.  Read the above carefully.  Look at my hardware. This
> is not a modern machine.
> 
> "thanks"
> 
> RL
> 
> puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso  (Puppy Linux) 95 MB
> 
> current.iso  (Damn Small Linux) 49.9 MB

Why don't you just burn the ISOs to CD and try them? You might actually 
learn someting.

-- 
Rick

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:38:15 -0800, raylopez99 wrote:

> I want to boot Linux on a Pentium II 1998 or so machine, with limited
> RAM and a small HD (about 20 GB or so), a CD-ROM and floppy, and a
> (real) modem (I think it's US Robotics).
> 
> Will the below .iso files, if I burn them onto a CD, allow me to boot
> Linux and surf the web (I assume that the files, being so small, don't
> have any apps on them, like a web browser, but somehow I can load
> these later, that's not a big deal).
> 
> In short, what will the below files allow me to do?
> 
> Please don't speculate.  Don't tell me what you think they should do,
> in your mind's eye.  Read the above carefully.  Look at my hardware.
> This is not a modern machine.
> 
> "thanks"
> 
> RL
> 
> puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso  (Puppy Linux) 95 MB
> 
> current.iso  (Damn Small Linux) 49.9 MB


You may also be interested in the 'multi distro' CD. It's a Live CD which
includes half a dozen or so distros all on one CD. You boot to a menu and
select which one to boot. You should be able to find it at
multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html. 

On Dec 13, 3:53 pm, Kier <val...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Please don't speculate.  Don't tell me what you think they should do,
> > in your mind's eye.  Read the above carefully.  Look at my hardware.
> > This is not a modern machine.
>
> We know that.
>

Kier you like to see yourself in print I see.  You didn't answer my
question, because presumeably you don't know.  You answer consisted of
"look at distrowatch, it's  in there" and telling me what an .iso file
is, which I already knew.

"thanks" (for nothing)

RL

On Dec 13, 5:06 pm, Timothy Murphy <t...@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie>
wrote:
> raylopez99 wrote:

> Why not just try one of the many Linux-on-a-CD's,
> eg Knoppix or Fedora KDE Live CD?
> These will give you a good idea how Linux will run on your machine.

Because I can't find one (I'm in the Balkans now, people still drive
horses where I'm posting from), and, I can't even download one on my
supposed "DSL" connection (averages, after the frequent cuts in
service, about 100 kb/s, but the main problem is the linux mirrors are
mostly bandwidth limited by the owners, on purpose, so you have to pay
them to give you a faster connection.  Typically these Linux mirrors
are topping off at about 30 kb/s, which will take many hours to
download a 600 MB .ISO file)

RL

On Dec 13, 6:52 pm, Rick <n...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
> Why don't you just burn the ISOs to CD and try them? You might actually
> learn someting.
>
> --
> Rick

Why don't you stfu?  Have nothing to say, then say nothing bozo.

RL

On Dec 13, 10:23 pm, ray <r...@zianet.com> wrote:
> You may also be interested in the 'multi distro' CD. It's a Live CD which
> includes half a dozen or so distros all on one CD. You boot to a menu and
> select which one to boot. You should be able to find it at
> multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html.

Ray,

sounds good, but I got this error:

You tried to access the address http://www.multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html,
which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the Web address
(URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the
page.

RL

On Dec 13, 3:57 pm, General Schvantzkopf <schvantzk...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > Please don't speculate.  Don't tell me what you think they should do, in
> > your mind's eye.  Read the above carefully.  Look at my hardware. This
> > is not a modern machine.
>
> > "thanks"
>
> > RL
>
> > puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso  (Puppy Linux) 95 MB
>
> > current.iso  (Damn Small Linux) 49.9 MB
>
> How much RAM do you have?

I have I think either 256 MB or 512 MB (I'm not near the target
machine so I can't be more precise)

RL

* raylopez99 <raylopez99@yahoo.com>
| > You should be able to find it at
| > multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html.
--<snip-snip>--
| You tried to access the address http://www.multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html,

GIYF.  Try
   http://multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html
without the 'www' which was added in your try.

R'

On Friday 14 Dec 2007 9:25 am,  Ralf Fassel wrote in comp.os.linux.advocacy:

> * raylopez99 <raylopez99@yahoo.com>
> | > You should be able to find it at
> | > multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html.
> --<snip-snip>--
> | You tried to access the address
> | http://www.multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html,
> 
> GIYF.  Try
>    http://multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html
> without the 'www' which was added in your try.

YHBT.

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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:58:09 -0800, raylopez99 wrote:

> On Dec 13, 6:52 pm, Rick <n...@nomail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why don't you just burn the ISOs to CD and try them? You might actually
>> learn someting.
>>
>> --
>> Rick
> 
> Why don't you stfu?  Have nothing to say, then say nothing bozo.
> 
As always, you prove you don't really want to get Linux working on this 
mahcine of yours. 

I have told you before...
You can get install CDs/DVDs from magazines.
You can research those same magazines for current distros that will work 
on your machine.
You can burn the ISOs you have, install them and try them out.
And yet all you do is whine.



-- 
Rick

* raylopez99 fired off this tart reply:

<incredible diarrheic drivel>

Buh bye.  I'm washing this bird poop from my eyes.

-- 
Tux rox!

raylopez99 wrote:
> I want to boot Linux on a Pentium II 1998 or so machine, with limited
> RAM and a small HD (about 20 GB or so), a CD-ROM and floppy, and a
> (real) modem (I think it's US Robotics).

Timothy Murphy <tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
> Why not just try one of the many Linux-on-a-CD's,
> eg Knoppix or Fedora KDE Live CD?
> These will give you a good idea how Linux will run on your machine.

Go and re-read the OP's post again. It's not a recent enough machine to
do anything useful with either KDE or Gnome.

He's going to need a lightweight WM (I believe XFCE is the currently
recommended solution for that.)

raylopez99, I can't offer you guidance on the two ISO files you suggested,
but I can try to help you avoid things that definitely won't work. (Until
very recently I used to run my home server on a 233 MHz Pentium, also
circa late nineties. I didn't bother with graphics, though, unless I
was desperate - but it could run^H^H^H crawl mozilla. So I think I know
where you're at.)

Chris

Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:
> You can get install CDs/DVDs from magazines.
> You can research those same magazines for current distros that will work 
> on your machine.

none of these will help on his old hardware. Look again at the spec:
it's small.

Chris

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:55:15 -0800, raylopez99 wrote:

> On Dec 13, 3:53 pm, Kier <val...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > Please don't speculate.  Don't tell me what you think they should do,
>> > in your mind's eye.  Read the above carefully.  Look at my hardware.
>> > This is not a modern machine.
>>
>> We know that.
>>
> 
> Kier you like to see yourself in print I see.  You didn't answer my
> question, because presumeably you don't know.  You answer consisted of
> "look at distrowatch, it's  in there" and telling me what an .iso file
> is, which I already knew.

If you knew, what did you ask for? Stop trolling, if you actually *want*
anyone to take you seriously. Obviously you don't.

-- 
Kier

>
> > Kier you like to see yourself in print I see.  You didn't answer my
> > question, because presumeably you don't know.  You answer consisted of
> > "look at distrowatch, it's  in there" and telling me what an .iso file
> > is, which I already knew.
>
> If you knew, what did you ask for? Stop trolling, if you actually *want*
> anyone to take you seriously. Obviously you don't.
>
> --
> Kier

I gave RL the benefit of the doubt the first time I exchanged posts
with him, but he was uniformly rude and insulting.  I don't think he's
in cahoots with flatfish, however, he just can't figure out that you
can't expect people to help you if you insult them.

On Dec 14, 8:56 am, Chris Davies <chris-use...@roaima.co.uk> wrote:
> Go and re-read the OP's post again. It's not a recent enough machine to
> do anything useful with either KDE or Gnome.
>
> He's going to need a lightweight WM (I believe XFCE is the currently
> recommended solution for that.)
>
> raylopez99, I can't offer you guidance on the two ISO files you suggested,
> but I can try to help you avoid things that definitely won't work. (Until
> very recently I used to run my home server on a 233 MHz Pentium, also
> circa late nineties. I didn't bother with graphics, though, unless I
> was desperate - but it could run^H^H^H crawl mozilla. So I think I know
> where you're at.)

AT LAST!  Somebody who can read an English sentence properly.  An
Englishman no less.  Logic is their forte, unlike the Americans.

Well thanks for the moral support Chris Davies.  Do tell me what
distro did work for you, time and weather permitting.  What I plan to
do is as soon as I'm near the target machine (it's on the east coast
USA, and I'm in the Balkans at the moment):  I will try and get it
working with the Windows NT OS and hardware that it's running on now
(I think it might be as simple as changing the case and/or power
supply fan, which might have burnt out), and failing that, will try
and install Puppy Linux, DSL, and Mandriva, in that order, using
three .ISO files I painfully downloaded here (took between 2.5 to 4
hours for each download even with my "DSL" modem).  Failing that, I
might just buy SUSE or try and get something similar from the local
computer store, and, failing that, I might just reinstall Windows 98
(which I have) or NT (if I can find the disk for NT 4.0) after wiping
the HD clean.

Linux appeals to me since this user is so primitive (they do just
email and light word processing) that they don't bother with any kind
of virus protection or firewall (arguably a firewall is not that
critical for a dial-up modem setup, but virus protection sure is), and
switching to Linux might insulate them from the many virsus that seem
to be in their computer, the last time I checked.

Thanks,

RL

On Dec 14, 11:54 am, Kier <val...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> > Kier you like to see yourself in print I see.  You didn't answer my
> > question, because presumeably you don't know.  You answer consisted of
> > "look at distrowatch, it's  in there" and telling me what an .iso file
> > is, which I already knew.
>
> If you knew, what did you ask for? Stop trolling, if you actually *want*
> anyone to take you seriously. Obviously you don't.


YOu misuderstood:  I want advice on these specific distros*, and if
they have the functionality to get on the net.

Not advice on where to look, but advice from you people here.

Got it?

Got Windoze?

And yes, I do troll using this account but you got to believe me when
I say this time I'm not trolling.  Didn't you ever hear the parable of
the boy that cried wolf?

RL

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:39:35 -0800, raylopez99 wrote:

> On Dec 14, 11:54 am, Kier <val...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> > Kier you like to see yourself in print I see.  You didn't answer my
>> > question, because presumeably you don't know.  You answer consisted of
>> > "look at distrowatch, it's  in there" and telling me what an .iso file
>> > is, which I already knew.
>>
>> If you knew, what did you ask for? Stop trolling, if you actually *want*
>> anyone to take you seriously. Obviously you don't.
> 
> 
> YOu misuderstood:  I want advice on these specific distros*, and if
> they have the functionality to get on the net.

You know the answer. We've told you: yes, yes, yes. Virtually all distros
will do that.

> 
> Not advice on where to look, but advice from you people here.

That *is* the advice. You need to learn for yourself, not to be spoonfed.
Why should we tell you everything, when you can find it yourself, easily?
Do you need to be led everywhere by the hand?

> 
> Got it?
> 
> Got Windoze?

Nope. Why should I? I'm a Linux user, I don't need Windows.

> 
> And yes, I do troll using this account but you got to believe me when
> I say this time I'm not trolling.  Didn't you ever hear the parable of
> the boy that cried wolf?

Yes. Which means you should stop trolling.

-- 
Kier

On Dec 14, 12:51 pm, Kier <val...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> > YOu misuderstood:  I want advice on these specific distros*, and if
> > they have the functionality to get on the net.
>
> You know the answer. We've told you: yes, yes, yes. Virtually all distros
> will do that.
>

"Virtually" Kier?  Like virtual reality?  You don't know and are
'selling' LInux again, aren't ya?

>
>
> > Not advice on where to look, but advice from you people here.
>
> That *is* the advice. You need to learn for yourself, not to be spoonfed.
> Why should we tell you everything, when you can find it yourself, easily?
> Do you need to be led everywhere by the hand?

Because dumbo people can't be reinstalling Windows from a clean
reinstall everytime Linux screws up your machine, that's why.


>
> > Got it?
>
> > Got Windoze?
>
> Nope. Why should I? I'm a Linux user, I don't need Windows.
>
>

OK. You and the 10 other people in this crummy group.  The rest of the
world uses Mac or Windows OS.


>
> > And yes, I do troll using this account but you got to believe me when
> > I say this time I'm not trolling.  Didn't you ever hear the parable of
> > the boy that cried wolf?
>
> Yes. Which means you should stop trolling.
>

Fool the lesson was the last time the boy cried wolf he was serious,
and nobody took him seriously, and the wolf ate the whole gaddamn
village.

WHat am I doing here on a Friday night chatting with a fool like you?

You're fired Kier.  Don't come to work Monday.  Workman's comp for
you.

RL

RL, I personally give you the benefit of doubt since I also combine
trolling with non trolling from time to time. 

My own thinking about all this is that if you were in the US, for
about $100 or $200, you could buy a used computer that is 10 times
better than the POS that you have. Not good enough to run Vista, but
perfect for Linux and OK for XP. 

That's probably a better way to go if your time is worth anything.

i

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]

So anyway, it was like, 21:39 CET Dec 14 2007, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
raylopez99 was all like, "Dude,

> And yes, I do troll using this account but you got to believe me
> when I say this time I'm not trolling. Didn't you ever hear the
> parable of the boy that cried wolf?

He got mauled in the end, didn't he? I think we can all learn
something from there.

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raylopez99 <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well thanks for the moral support Chris Davies.  Do tell me what
> distro did work for you, time and weather permitting.

Well, I'm a Debian person myself, so I tend to run Debian "testing".
Mind you, I now have a 700 MHz P3 as my home server, and my laptop is
a DELL Latitude D820 (dual core, big screen, lots of memory...).

I'd advise you to stay away from any of the big distros like Ubuntu
(sadly), Fedora, Mandriva, or SuSE, unless you're prepared to spend the
time yourself replacing their wonderfully sorted Gnome/KDE configurations
with XFCE.

On the other hand, a quick google suggests Xubuntu and others listed on
http://www.xfce.org/download/distros. Note that I haven't tried them,
so I can't specifically recommend them from direct experience. However,
Xubuntu is the one I personally would try on such hardware (it's the
closest to Debian).

Good luck,
Chris

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:05:43 -0800, raylopez99 wrote:

> On Dec 14, 12:51 pm, Kier <val...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> > YOu misuderstood:  I want advice on these specific distros*, and if
>> > they have the functionality to get on the net.
>>
>> You know the answer. We've told you: yes, yes, yes. Virtually all distros
>> will do that.
>>
> 
> "Virtually" Kier?  Like virtual reality?  You don't know and are
> 'selling' LInux again, aren't ya?

I gave you the exact truth. I told you the answer to your question. As you
seem rather hard of understanding, here it is again. YES.

> 
>>
>>
>> > Not advice on where to look, but advice from you people here.
>>
>> That *is* the advice. You need to learn for yourself, not to be spoonfed.
>> Why should we tell you everything, when you can find it yourself, easily?
>> Do you need to be led everywhere by the hand?
> 
> Because dumbo people can't be reinstalling Windows from a clean
> reinstall everytime Linux screws up your machine, that's why.

We're talking about *you*. Do you need to be spoonfed everything? And how
can Linux screw up anything on a machine you tell us is intended only for
Linux? Perhaps you were lying.

> 
> 
>>
>> > Got it?
>>
>> > Got Windoze?
>>
>> Nope. Why should I? I'm a Linux user, I don't need Windows.
>>
>>
> 
> OK. You and the 10 other people in this crummy group.  The rest of the
> world uses Mac or Windows OS.

There are over two thousand subscribers to this group alone, and there are
hundreds more Linux groups. Not to mention all the LUGs, magazine readers,
Linux podcast listeners, and millions of others using Linux out there.

> 
> 
>>
>> > And yes, I do troll using this account but you got to believe me when
>> > I say this time I'm not trolling.  Didn't you ever hear the parable of
>> > the boy that cried wolf?
>>
>> Yes. Which means you should stop trolling.
>>
> 
> Fool the lesson was the last time the boy cried wolf he was serious,
> and nobody took him seriously, and the wolf ate the whole gaddamn
> village.

I know. So you should stop trolling, because you are just being a fool.
The people here have nog memories and little patience for people who fuck
them around, as you have been doing. In the story, the villagers lost out
- here, you will.

> 
> WHat am I doing here on a Friday night chatting with a fool like you?

Beggin for information, which I've given you a dozen times over. So, which
of us is really the fool?

> 
> You're fired Kier.  Don't come to work Monday.  Workman's comp for
> you.

Fire me? Ahhahahhahahha! Don't make me laugh.

You're the only fool here. I have given you reams of advice, all of which
you have ignored in order to troll. No one here or in comp.os.linux.misc
is remotely obliged to assist you, or do your bidding. Get that through
your head and some progress will be made. Or contue to waste you own time
trolling - you won't waste mine, since I would be amusing myself in COLA
anyway.

-- 
Kier

In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy,
Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> didnst hastily scribble thusly:
> * raylopez99 <raylopez99@yahoo.com>
> | > You should be able to find it at
> | > multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html.
> --<snip-snip>--
> | You tried to access the address http://www.multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html,

> GIYF.  Try
>   http://multidistro.tlm-project.org/md_en.html
> without the 'www' which was added in your try.

Pitiful, isn't it.
He can't even copy and paste a URL correctly, something a primary school kid
can do with no trouble.
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In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy,
Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> didnst hastily scribble thusly:
> Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:
>> You can get install CDs/DVDs from magazines.
>> You can research those same magazines for current distros that will work 
>> on your machine.

> none of these will help on his old hardware. Look again at the spec:
> it's small.

My first distro was SuSE 5.2 
And the specs on the machine I installed it on makes his look like a
mainframe.  ANY modern distro would install on his.
OK, it might need a little more package selection and fine tuning, but ANY
one compiled for 32bit intel x86 would work.
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On Dec 14, 4:05 pm, raylopez99 <raylope...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 14, 12:51 pm, Kier <val...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > YOu misuderstood:  I want advice on these specific distros*, and if
> > > they have the functionality to get on the net.
>
> > You know the answer. We've told you: yes, yes, yes. Virtually all distros
> > will do that.
>
> "Virtually" Kier?  Like virtual reality?  You don't know and are
> 'selling' LInux again, aren't ya?


He doesn't know every single distro, so the possibility exists that
one doesn't have the functionality to get on the net. But I doubt it.
So to answer your question, all distros have the functionality to get
on the net.


>
>
> > > Not advice on where to look, but advice from you people here.
>
> > That *is* the advice. You need to learn for yourself, not to be spoonfed.
> > Why should we tell you everything, when you can find it yourself, easily?
> > Do you need to be led everywhere by the hand?
>
> Because dumbo people can't be reinstalling Windows from a clean
> reinstall everytime Linux screws up your machine, that's why.


That's why every single person in response to every single Linux post
from you has mentioned LiveCDs. No install.

>
>
> > > Got it?
>
> > > Got Windoze?
>
> > Nope. Why should I? I'm a Linux user, I don't need Windows.
>
> OK. You and the 10 other people in this crummy group.  The rest of the
> world uses Mac or Windows OS.
>
>
>
> > > And yes, I do troll using this account but you got to believe me when
> > > I say this time I'm not trolling.  Didn't you ever hear the parable of
> > > the boy that cried wolf?
>
> > Yes. Which means you should stop trolling.
>
> Fool the lesson was the last time the boy cried wolf he was serious,
> and nobody took him seriously, and the wolf ate the whole gaddamn
> village.


That's not the lesson at all. If you seriously think that the lesson
of the boy who cried wolf was that the village should have taken him
seriously the last time, then please disconnect from the Internet and
kill yourself.


> WHat am I doing here on a Friday night chatting with a fool like you?

You obviously suck.

* Chris Davies fired off this tart reply:

> raylopez99 <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Well thanks for the moral support Chris Davies.  Do tell me what
>> distro did work for you, time and weather permitting.
>
> Well, I'm a Debian person myself, so I tend to run Debian "testing".
> Mind you, I now have a 700 MHz P3 as my home server, and my laptop is
> a DELL Latitude D820 (dual core, big screen, lots of memory...).
>
> I'd advise you to stay away from any of the big distros like Ubuntu
> (sadly), Fedora, Mandriva, or SuSE, unless you're prepared to spend the
> time yourself replacing their wonderfully sorted Gnome/KDE configurations
> with XFCE.

I got Ubuntu to load on a no-name 380MHz K6 laptop with 96 Mb.  Works,
but I run fluxbox on it.

-- 
Tux rox!

* Johan Lindquist fired off this tart reply:

> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
>
> So anyway, it was like, 21:39 CET Dec 14 2007, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
> raylopez99 was all like, "Dude,
>
>> And yes, I do troll using this account but you got to believe me
>> when I say this time I'm not trolling. Didn't you ever hear the
>> parable of the boy that cried wolf?
>
> He got mauled in the end, didn't he? I think we can all learn
> something from there.

What, that Ray Dopez is a sheep in wolf's clothing?

-- 
Tux rox!

On Dec 14, 1:08 pm, Ignoramus15323 <ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
15323.invalid> wrote:
> RL, I personally give you the benefit of doubt since I also combine
> trolling with non trolling from time to time.
>
> My own thinking about all this is that if you were in the US, for
> about $100 or $200, you could buy a used computer that is 10 times
> better than the POS that you have. Not good enough to run Vista, but
> perfect for Linux and OK for XP.
>
> That's probably a better way to go if your time is worth anything.
>
> i

Well if I find such a PC I'll buy it.  In the meantime I'm going to
fix the POS I have.

RL

In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy,
raylopez99 <raylopez99@yahoo.com> didnst hastily scribble thusly:
> And yes, I do troll using this account but you got to believe me when
> I say this time I'm not trolling.  Didn't you ever hear the parable of
> the boy that cried wolf?

Yes, and I REALLY think it's time we reached the chapter where you get
gobbled up.

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In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy,
raylopez99 <raylopez99@yahoo.com> didnst hastily scribble thusly:
>> That *is* the advice. You need to learn for yourself, not to be spoonfed.
>> Why should we tell you everything, when you can find it yourself, easily?
>> Do you need to be led everywhere by the hand?

> Because dumbo people can't be reinstalling Windows from a clean
> reinstall everytime Linux screws up your machine, that's why.

And when was the last time linux "screwed up" someone's machine ray?
Hmmm...


I have a new suspicion about mr lopez...
Special needs.
Got to be.
Inability to engage in polite conversation (or other social situations)
Inability to follow simple instructions...
Inability to do even the simplest of websearches...

He's obviously high on the autistic spectrum with added ADHD and other
learning difficulties.
>> Nope. Why should I? I'm a Linux user, I don't need Windows.
>>
>>

> OK. You and the 10 other people in this crummy group.  

And the millions of other people who don't bother with this group or usenet
at all...



> The rest of the
> world uses Mac or Windows OS.

MOST of. Yes, we know windows is the majority desktop OS.
SO what?

> Fool the lesson was the last time the boy cried wolf he was serious,
> and nobody took him seriously, and the wolf ate the whole gaddamn
> village.

Yes, but here, there's a difference.
The wolf is your trolling.
So there is no threat to the rest of the community if they continue to view
you as trolling. The only injured person... IS YOU.

Which is, I imagine, fine by the rest of us...

Or, to use another saying...
You reap what you sew.

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|            in            |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|     Computer Science     |        can't stand 1 bit of competition.       |
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On Saturday 15 Dec 2007 3:50 pm,  Linonut wrote in comp.os.linux.advocacy:

> * Johan Lindquist fired off this tart reply:
> 
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
>>
>> So anyway, it was like, 21:39 CET Dec 14 2007, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
>> raylopez99 was all like, "Dude,
>>
>>> And yes, I do troll using this account but you got to believe me
>>> when I say this time I'm not trolling. Didn't you ever hear the
>>> parable of the boy that cried wolf?
>>
>> He got mauled in the end, didn't he? I think we can all learn
>> something from there.
> 
> What, that Ray Dopez is a sheep in wolf's clothing?
> 

<quote>
"....yes, I do troll using this account..."
<unquote>

Then he says <quote> ....you got to believe me when I say this time I'm not
trolling.<unquote> 

Tough luck isn't it. Of course had he not trolled at ALL, people might have
believed him. Another old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me
twice..etc. And another: Once bitten, twice shy.

He made his bed, he can lie in it AFAIC.
Trolls [ALL of them] are the lowest form of life on Usenet.

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William Poaster <wp@linux.amd64.eu> did eloquently scribble:
> Tough luck isn't it. Of course had he not trolled at ALL, people might have
> believed him. Another old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me
> twice..etc. And another: Once bitten, twice shy.

And of course, the one I added a couple of posts up...
"You reap what you sew"
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:49:13 +0000, spike1 wrote:

> William Poaster <wp@linux.amd64.eu> did eloquently scribble:
>> Tough luck isn't it. Of course had he not trolled at ALL, people might have
>> believed him. Another old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me
>> twice..etc. And another: Once bitten, twice shy.
> 
> And of course, the one I added a couple of posts up...
> "You reap what you sew"

That would be 'sow', I think :-)

-- 
Kier

Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> did eloquently scribble:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:49:13 +0000, spike1 wrote:

>> William Poaster <wp@linux.amd64.eu> did eloquently scribble:
>>> Tough luck isn't it. Of course had he not trolled at ALL, people might have
>>> believed him. Another old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me
>>> twice..etc. And another: Once bitten, twice shy.
>> 
>> And of course, the one I added a couple of posts up...
>> "You reap what you sew"

> That would be 'sow', I think :-)

/me jabs kier with a needle.
:-p
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|           in             |good to you so far...                           |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:11:20 +0000, spike1 wrote:

> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> did eloquently scribble:
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:49:13 +0000, spike1 wrote:
> 
>>> William Poaster <wp@linux.amd64.eu> did eloquently scribble:
>>>> Tough luck isn't it. Of course had he not trolled at ALL, people might have
>>>> believed him. Another old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me
>>>> twice..etc. And another: Once bitten, twice shy.
>>> 
>>> And of course, the one I added a couple of posts up...
>>> "You reap what you sew"
> 
>> That would be 'sow', I think :-)
> 
> /me jabs kier with a needle.
> :-p

Youch! <grin>

-- 
Kier

Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:

> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:11:20 +0000, spike1 wrote:
>
>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> did eloquently scribble:
>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:49:13 +0000, spike1 wrote:
>> 
>>>> William Poaster <wp@linux.amd64.eu> did eloquently scribble:
>>>>> Tough luck isn't it. Of course had he not trolled at ALL, people might have
>>>>> believed him. Another old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me
>>>>> twice..etc. And another: Once bitten, twice shy.
>>>> 
>>>> And of course, the one I added a couple of posts up...
>>>> "You reap what you sew"
>> 
>>> That would be 'sow', I think :-)
>> 
>> /me jabs kier with a needle.
>> :-p
>
> Youch! <grin>

Arr, how sweet. A COLA love in.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:12:38 +0100, Hadron wrote:

> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
> 
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:11:20 +0000, spike1 wrote:
>>
>>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> did eloquently scribble:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:49:13 +0000, spike1 wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> William Poaster <wp@linux.amd64.eu> did eloquently scribble:
>>>>>> Tough luck isn't it. Of course had he not trolled at ALL, people might have
>>>>>> believed him. Another old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me
>>>>>> twice..etc. And another: Once bitten, twice shy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And of course, the one I added a couple of posts up...
>>>>> "You reap what you sew"
>>> 
>>>> That would be 'sow', I think :-)
>>> 
>>> /me jabs kier with a needle.
>>> :-p
>>
>> Youch! <grin>
> 
> Arr, how sweet. A COLA love in.

Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here? Or is
it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two posters exchange
a joke?

-- 
Kier

Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:

> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:12:38 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:11:20 +0000, spike1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> did eloquently scribble:
>>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:49:13 +0000, spike1 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> William Poaster <wp@linux.amd64.eu> did eloquently scribble:
>>>>>>> Tough luck isn't it. Of course had he not trolled at ALL, people might have
>>>>>>> believed him. Another old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me
>>>>>>> twice..etc. And another: Once bitten, twice shy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And of course, the one I added a couple of posts up...
>>>>>> "You reap what you sew"
>>>> 
>>>>> That would be 'sow', I think :-)
>>>> 
>>>> /me jabs kier with a needle.
>>>> :-p
>>>
>>> Youch! <grin>
>> 
>> Arr, how sweet. A COLA love in.
>
> Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here? Or is
> it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two posters exchange
> a joke?

What joke?

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		Martín Fierro". 

Hadron <hadronquark@googlemail.com> did eloquently scribble:
>> Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here? Or is
>> it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two posters exchange
>> a joke?

> What joke?

None of your sodding business
As usual.
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Hadron wrote:
> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:

>> Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here?
>> Or is it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two
>> posters exchange a joke?
>
> What joke?

The joke where spike injected Kier with Ebola or AIDS or Malaria or TB or 
one of those other African distros.

"DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:

> Hadron wrote:
>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
>
>>> Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here?
>>> Or is it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two
>>> posters exchange a joke?
>>
>> What joke?
>
> The joke where spike injected Kier with Ebola or AIDS or Malaria or TB or 
> one of those other African distros.

Aha "sew" that's the joke!! (girly giggle).

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:10:08 -0500, DFS wrote:

> Hadron wrote:
>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
> 
>>> Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here?
>>> Or is it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two
>>> posters exchange a joke?
>>
>> What joke?
> 
> The joke where spike injected Kier with Ebola or AIDS or Malaria or TB or 
> one of those other African distros.

You are dredging even further down the bottom of the barrel than Hadron.
Disgusting. Particularly when you are a constant spelling lamer.

-- 
Kier

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:14:35 +0100, Hadron wrote:

> "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:
> 
>> Hadron wrote:
>>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>>> Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here?
>>>> Or is it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two
>>>> posters exchange a joke?
>>>
>>> What joke?
>>
>> The joke where spike injected Kier with Ebola or AIDS or Malaria or TB or 
>> one of those other African distros.
> 
> Aha "sew" that's the joke!! (girly giggle).

You're a pathetic twat. Any friendly exchange between Linux advocates is
painful to you, is it? Get a life.

-- 
Kier

On Sunday 16 Dec 2007 11:11 am,  spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote in
comp.os.linux.advocacy:

> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> did eloquently scribble:
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:49:13 +0000, spike1 wrote:
> 
>>> William Poaster <wp@linux.amd64.eu> did eloquently scribble:
>>>> Tough luck isn't it. Of course had he not trolled at ALL, people might have
>>>> believed him. Another old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me
>>>> twice..etc. And another: Once bitten, twice shy.
>>> 
>>> And of course, the one I added a couple of posts up...
>>> "You reap what you sew"
> 
>> That would be 'sow', I think :-)
> 
> /me jabs kier with a needle.
> :-p

LOL! 

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Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:

> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:14:35 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
>>>
>>>>> Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here?
>>>>> Or is it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two
>>>>> posters exchange a joke?
>>>>
>>>> What joke?
>>>
>>> The joke where spike injected Kier with Ebola or AIDS or Malaria or TB or 
>>> one of those other African distros.
>> 
>> Aha "sew" that's the joke!! (girly giggle).
>
> You're a pathetic twat. Any friendly exchange between Linux advocates is
> painful to you, is it? Get a life.

I don't see you advocating Linux. I see you getting all prissy and
sucking on Roy's nipple.

In which Linux group do you help new users? Which OSS projects are you
involved in?

Hang on! Surely you don't think calling people names and swearing a lot
in this NG is "Linux Advocacy"!??!?! Oh my God! You do!

Hilarious.

Anyway, I tire of playing you like a puppet on a string.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:32:06 +0100, Hadron wrote:

> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
> 
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:14:35 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>> Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here?
>>>>>> Or is it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two
>>>>>> posters exchange a joke?
>>>>>
>>>>> What joke?
>>>>
>>>> The joke where spike injected Kier with Ebola or AIDS or Malaria or TB or 
>>>> one of those other African distros.
>>> 
>>> Aha "sew" that's the joke!! (girly giggle).
>>
>> You're a pathetic twat. Any friendly exchange between Linux advocates is
>> painful to you, is it? Get a life.
> 
> I don't see you advocating Linux. I see you getting all prissy and
> sucking on Roy's nipple.

Er, since when did spike become Roy? Since when did I not disagree with
much of what Roy posts? Since when were you made God?

Once again, what is it to you when a couple of Linux advocates exchange
some friendly banter, except of course that you hate to see it?

> 
> In which Linux group do you help new users? Which OSS projects are you
> involved in?

In which life do you assume you have the right to ask? Or to dictate what
advocacy is?

> 
> Hang on! Surely you don't think calling people names and swearing a lot
> in this NG is "Linux Advocacy"!??!?! Oh my God! You do!

Stop assuming things about me which have no basis in reality, liar.

> 
> Hilarious.

Yes, you are.

> 
> Anyway, I tire of playing you like a puppet on a string.

AHHHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!! I have more important things to do than listen to you
dribble.

-- 
Kier 

Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:

> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:32:06 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:14:35 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>>>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here?
>>>>>>> Or is it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two
>>>>>>> posters exchange a joke?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What joke?
>>>>>
>>>>> The joke where spike injected Kier with Ebola or AIDS or Malaria or TB or 
>>>>> one of those other African distros.
>>>> 
>>>> Aha "sew" that's the joke!! (girly giggle).
>>>
>>> You're a pathetic twat. Any friendly exchange between Linux advocates is
>>> painful to you, is it? Get a life.
>> 
>> I don't see you advocating Linux. I see you getting all prissy and
>> sucking on Roy's nipple.
>
> Er, since when did spike become Roy? Since when did I not disagree with
> much of what Roy posts? Since when were you made God?

Oh dear. Why are you so single threaded?

>
> Once again, what is it to you when a couple of Linux advocates exchange
> some friendly banter, except of course that you hate to see it?

God bless you.

>
>> 
>> In which Linux group do you help new users? Which OSS projects are you
>> involved in?
>
> In which life do you assume you have the right to ask? Or to dictate what
> advocacy is?

I guess in the same one you ask for proof in all the time when yet more
"advocate" lies are exposed for what they are.


>
>> 
>> Hang on! Surely you don't think calling people names and swearing a lot
>> in this NG is "Linux Advocacy"!??!?! Oh my God! You do!
>
> Stop assuming things about me which have no basis in reality, liar.

Then why are you calling people names and swearing in the advocacy
group? Do tell.

>
>> 
>> Hilarious.
>
> Yes, you are.

"I know I am but what are you".

>
>> 
>> Anyway, I tire of playing you like a puppet on a string.
>
> AHHHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!! I have more important things to do than listen to you
> dribble.

You can hear me dribble?

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:14:35 +0100, Hadron wrote:

> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
> 
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:32:06 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:14:35 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>>>>> Kier <vallon@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you quite incapable of keeping your snout out of anything here?
>>>>>>>> Or is it your mission in life to be a complete twat when a two
>>>>>>>> posters exchange a joke?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What joke?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The joke where spike injected Kier with Ebola or AIDS or Malaria or TB or 
>>>>>> one of those other African distros.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aha "sew" that's the joke!! (girly giggle).
>>>>
>>>> You're a pathetic twat. Any friendly exchange between Linux advocates is
>>>> painful to you, is it? Get a life.
>>> 
>>> I don't see you advocating Linux. I see you getting all prissy and
>>> sucking on Roy's nipple.
>>
>> Er, since when did spike become Roy? Since when did I not disagree with
>> much of what Roy posts? Since when were you made God?
> 
> Oh dear. Why are you so single threaded?

Why are you a dickhead? When did spike become Roy? Why can 't you keep out
of what doesn't concern you?

> 
>>
>> Once again, what is it to you when a couple of Linux advocates exchange
>> some friendly banter, except of course that you hate to see it?
> 
> God bless you.
> 
>>
>>> 
>>> In which Linux group do you help new users? Which OSS projects are you
>>> involved in?
>>
>> In which life do you assume you have the right to ask? Or to dictate what
>> advocacy is?
> 
> I guess in the same one you ask for proof in all the time when yet more
> "advocate" lies are exposed for what they are.

Just because I don't spend all my life attacking Roy, don't assume I never
challenge anything an advocate says, liar. Else why was I supposed to be a
'troll' and 'MS apologist'?

> 
> 
>>
>>> 
>>> Hang on! Surely you don't think calling people names and swearing a lot
>>> in this NG is "Linux Advocacy"!??!?! Oh my God! You do!
>>
>> Stop assuming things about me which have no basis in reality, liar.
> 
> Then why are you calling people names and swearing in the advocacy
> group? Do tell.

Why are you assuming I think that has anything to do with being an
advocate? I have never denied using bad language, nor do I care if you
don't like it. What I do or don't do outside of COLA is no business of
yours. 

> 
>>
>>> 
>>> Hilarious.
>>
>> Yes, you are.
> 
> "I know I am but what are you".

Yes, you are still pathetic.

> 
>>
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I tire of playing you like a puppet on a string.
>>
>> AHHHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!! I have more important things to do than listen to you
>> dribble.
> 
> You can hear me dribble?

Your words are nothing but dribble.

-- 
Kier

Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> writes:
>Go and re-read the OP's post again. It's not a recent enough machine to
>do anything useful with either KDE or Gnome.
>
>He's going to need a lightweight WM (I believe XFCE is the currently
>recommended solution for that.)

Another distro aimed at low-end machines is www.wolvix.com
-- 
John Savage                   (my news address is not valid for email)

Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> writes:
>Go and re-read the OP's post again. It's not a recent enough machine to
>do anything useful with either KDE or Gnome.
>
>He's going to need a lightweight WM (I believe XFCE is the currently
>recommended solution for that.)

Another distro aimed at low-end machines is www.wolvix.org
using XFCE and Fluxbox
-- 
John Savage                   (my news address is not valid for email)

In article <214036df-2095-4cef-98dd-18a8013aa3cc@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
raylopez99  <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote:

I've been a long time away. But I just couldn't resis jumping in...

>I want to boot Linux on a Pentium II 1998 or so machine, with limited
>RAM and a small HD (about 20 GB or so), a CD-ROM and floppy, and a
>(real) modem (I think it's US Robotics).

Why? Such hardware is truly a waste of time and energy when one can get
a decent modern machine for well under $200 (sans monitor) with a good
sale.

>Will the below .iso files, if I burn them onto a CD, allow me to boot
>Linux and surf the web (I assume that the files, being so small, don't
>have any apps on them, like a web browser, but somehow I can load
>these later, that's not a big deal).
>
>In short, what will the below files allow me to do?
>
>Please don't speculate.  Don't tell me what you think they should do,
>in your mind's eye.  Read the above carefully.  Look at my hardware.
>This is not a modern machine.

Which is why you are wasting your time. BTW everyone can only speculate
because they don't have your hardware.

Also you don't specify the amount of RAM. It's the critical factor when
operating with low horsepower old machines. You get a completely
different experience with 32MB of RAM than you do with 512 MB.

So it's all speculation anyway.

>
>"thanks"
>
>RL
>
>puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso  (Puppy Linux) 95 MB
>
>current.iso  (Damn Small Linux) 49.9 MB

My students have booted both of these on 2000/2001 era machines with AMD
K6 450 Mhz with 64 MB RAM and 6GB hard disk. They work. They are slow.

But don't expect decent performance. The hardware is simply too old.

BAJ