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Trying to look for Linux Networking files (Ethernet related), any Document available?

Networks experts: I need to add more debugging prints to understand
Networking stack in Linux, is there any document available about which
files are Network related files, also can I make it as Loadable module
instead part of Kernel. Thanks in advance.

In Linux, if I connect two Linux machines through Serial ports (COM),
can I able to communicate using some socket based application?.

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santa19992000@yahoo.com wrote:
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> In Linux, if I connect two Linux machines through Serial ports (COM),
> can I able to communicate using some socket based application?.

Most certainly, yes.

All you have to do is configure both Linux systems to use PPP on their
respective serial ports (a fairly trivial exercise), and you can have a
two-system serial-line-based network. Sockets based applications will just see
IP addresses and ports; ppp will take care of mating sockets to serial line at
both ends.

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Lew Pitcher

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Registered Linux User #112576 (http://counter.li.org/)
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lpitcher (688)
8/18/2005 10:03:57 PM
santa19992000@yahoo.com wrote:

> In Linux, if I connect two Linux machines through Serial ports (COM),
> can I able to communicate using some socket based application?.

You'd have to run PPP over the serial connection.

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james.knott (739)
8/18/2005 10:23:48 PM
santa19992000@yahoo.com wrote:
> Networks experts: I need to add more debugging prints to understand
> Networking stack in Linux, is there any document available about which
> files are Network related files,

W. Richard Stevens "TCP/IP Illustrated". Get it at Amazon.

> also can I make it as Loadable module
> instead part of Kernel. Thanks in advance.

No.

> In Linux, if I connect two Linux machines through Serial ports (COM),
> can I able to communicate using some socket based application?.

Yes.
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8/18/2005 10:47:20 PM
Do I have to buy PPP stack code or is it part of Linux source code,
also Is it mandatory do I have to run PPP?, without PPP can't I
communicate over serial ports?.

Can I assign an IP address for serial/ppp interface?.

Thanks in advance.

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8/19/2005 12:49:05 AM
santa19992000@yahoo.com wrote in news:1124412545.912947.22200
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> Do I have to buy PPP stack code

No.


> or is it part of Linux source code,

Yes.

> also Is it mandatory do I have to run PPP?,

You do if you want to run TCP/IP over it. The same protocol is used by 
routers such as Cisco to talk to each other over WAN serial connections 
(though Cisco also supports some other protocols too that can be used to 
encap IP).


> without PPP can't Iover 
> communicate over serial ports?.

Yes there are other protocols that you can use over a serial connection but 
PPP is the one you want if you are going to run tcp/ip over it.


> 
> Can I assign an IP address for serial/ppp interface?.

Yes.

Klazmon.

> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 

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Klazmon (114)
8/19/2005 2:18:57 AM
On 18 Aug 2005 17:49:05 -0700, santa19992000@yahoo.com
<santa19992000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Do I have to buy PPP stack code or is it part of Linux source code,

Part of it is in the kernel, part of it is in a user-space program
called "pppd" that comes with virtually all distributions.


> Is it mandatory do I have to run PPP?, without PPP can't I communicate
> over serial ports?.

A plain serial port is fine for running a command line session, but it
can't be used as a network connection.  For that you normally use PPP or
SLIP, both of which come with virtually all Linux distributions.


> Can I assign an IP address for serial/ppp interface?.

Yes.  A PPP connection acts like a normal network connection.  You can
give it an IP, put it in the routing table, all that.


-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
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postmaster6 (1752)
8/19/2005 2:24:17 AM
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santa19992000@yahoo.com wrote:
> Do I have to buy PPP stack code

No,

> or is it part of Linux source code,

No, and yes.

There are PPP 'hooks' in the Linux kernel, but the /real/ PPP support comes
from a userspace app. You can have a PPP 'daemon' (service) running in
background (the typical one is an FOSS package known as Samba PPP (from
ftp://ftp.samba.org/pub/ppp/) or in foreground (like Kppp - the KDE PPP daemon)

> also Is it mandatory do I have to run PPP?, without PPP can't I
> communicate over serial ports?.

No. You can use SLIP, which is an older transport level protocol for serial
connections.

For that matter, if you abandon the idea of using the sockets interface, you
can fall back to the old 'dumb terminal' data interchange tools. Or even just
open /dev/ttyS* and read() and write() raw data.

> Can I assign an IP address for serial/ppp interface?.

Yes.

> Thanks in advance.
> 


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lpitcher (688)
8/19/2005 2:37:19 AM
Porting VxWorks code to Linux, I don't think task will be supported
under Linux, if I move to thread concept I believe, Does Linux had
separate thread in User versus Kernel space?.

Also how about the ISR in VxWorks can be directly convert to Linux?.

Thanks.

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8/19/2005 3:02:42 AM
santa19992000@yahoo.com wrote:

> Do I have to buy PPP stack code or is it part of Linux source code,
> also Is it mandatory do I have to run PPP?, without PPP can't I
> communicate over serial ports?.

Linux includes PPP.  You can also use SLIP.  While you can connect computers 
without those, you won't be able to use any IP based applications.

> 
> Can I assign an IP address for serial/ppp interface?.

Yes.

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james.knott (739)
8/19/2005 1:03:50 PM
Do you remember that laplink kinda thing using serial port as null
modem?

Go here ....
http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Serial-Laplink-HOWTO.html

--
Raqueeb Hassan
Bangladesh

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wideangle (197)
8/21/2005 2:17:07 PM
Raqueeb Hassan wrote:

> Do you remember that laplink kinda thing using serial port as null
> modem?
> 
> Go here ....
> http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Serial-Laplink-HOWTO.html

Crossover serial cables are easy to make or buy.  However, he'd still need
PPP or similar, to carry the IP traffic.

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james.knott (739)
8/21/2005 5:17:53 PM
Hello,

santa19992000@yahoo.com wrote:
> Networks experts: I need to add more debugging prints to understand
> Networking stack in Linux, is there any document available about which
> files are Network related files...

The network stuff is mostly under net/, or net/ipv4/ if you're only
concerned with "classic" TCP/IP, and the file names are descriptive.
Beyond that you might want to take a peek at the network interface
driver code in drivers/net/. The stack is pretty convoluted at times
due to all the indirection. You might take a look at "The Linux TCP/IP
Stack" by Thomas Herbert. It's kind of buggy -- lots of errors, often
lacking clarity, and based on a three-year-old version of the kernel --
but if you work through it things will start to fit together. Then when
you look at the source you'll see what has changed ;-)

Note that netfilter isn't addressed by the book, so you'll need to do
more digging if that's what interests you. The netfilter simulator
(nfsim) may also be a good way to trace packet flow through the kernel,
but I've never used it so I'm not sure. Of course, the way you're doing
it is time-tested and painful enough that you'll remember what you find
out, but it will be slow going!

I don't see how your printk's could be added as a separate module. What
I usually do is make stuff like that conditional on custom /proc
variables. That way you can turn logging on or off whenever you want,
and make the decision to log or not log as fine-grained as you like.

TM

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8/22/2005 9:50:04 AM
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I have a computer running puppy Linux. I am getting some weird behaviour with the networking: ping www.google.co.uk 64 bytes from 64.233.183.147: seq=0 ttl=241 time=38.1ms Ok. I can browse the internet. cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost puppypc 10.0.0.8 neptune.markhobley.yi.org neptune ping 10.0.0.8 64 bytes from 10.0.0.8: seq=0 ttl=241 time=2.1ms Ok. Now watch this: ping neptune PING neptune (a00:8:5086:c1bf::): 56 data bytes ping: can't create raw socket: Address family not supported by protocol What the hell is that crap? I am using an IP4 network...

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