X86 or PowerPC for Linux
I'm going to buy a new computer.What is the best for Linux
a AthlonXP 3000+ or a PowerPC (PowerMac G4 or pegasos).
VP <email@example.com> tried to express:
> I'm going to buy a new computer.What is the best for Linux
> a AthlonXP 3000+ or a PowerPC (PowerMac G4 or pegasos).
I think that most development is done on the intel platform so it
stands to reason that the intel platform has been more thoroughly
debugged and that more technical assistance will be available for
intel related problems.
besides, if ya go with a rotten apple ya got that bsd kludge that
new ...Apple Mach-O PowerPC vs Mac OS X PowerPC Mach-O ??? Huh??
In the Target Settings panel in CodeWarrior 8.3, I see three very
poorly named link settings for PowerPC:
Apple Mach-O PowerPC
Mac OS X PowerPC Mach-O
Although all three are for "Macintosh PowerPC", the first one is
clearly PEF/CFM (despite no hint of that), due to the fact that it is
the only one that doesn't say Mach-O.
My real question is about the two Mach-O targets. Besides the
annoying reversal of "PowerPC" and "Mach-O", what is the difference
between them? That one is for "Apple" and the other is for "M...OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, and X86 is available
Radisys is pleased to announce the release of OS-9 v5.2 for PowerPC, SH4, a=
nd X86. This is a free update for customers with a current OS-9 support sub=
scription. Contact your OS-9 sales representative for update information.
Highlights of the v1.3.1 update include:
- Password files can now include encrypted passwords. OS-9 now supports the=
encryption of passwords that appear in the SYS/password file. Several util=
ities have been added to support this feature: passutil, useradd, userdel, =
- USB support improved. The OS-9 Configuration Wizard has been enhanced to...PowerPC
Hi, I hope this is the right group for my questions. If I missed, I
apologize in advance.
The thing is I need to know lots of trivial details about the PEGASOS
and the AmigaOne for an Open Firmware tutorial I maintain.
If anybody could answer these questions, I would be very happy indeed.
1. Is there a _current_ Web site that could be seen as a home page for
the AmigaOne hardware architecture? The one amiga.com points to seems
outdated. The PEGASOS has a nice easy-to-find home page.
2. Can anybody send me a file containing default values of all firmware
variables of an AmigaOne? It would look something like this:
[sundance:~] ajbrehm% nvram -p
The above is from a Power Mac G4 and goes on a bit.
3. Same for PEGASOS. I'd also need the technical data (board revision,
firmware version, CPU) for the box in question.
4. Do AmigaOS and/or MorphOS come with commands that manipulate the
firmware (like nvram on Darwin and nvsetenv on GNU)? If so, could
someone send me the man pages or equivalent help files for them?
5. Do the AmigaOne and PEGASOS use USB as their default connectors for
keyboard and mouse or PS/2 or some other bus?
6. What about PCI and AGP slots and what's the n...PowerPC
At the Ohio inux Fest http://www.ohiolinux.org on 02Oct2004 in
Columbus Ohio we plan to have a PowerPC BOF meeting where I will
demonstrate at least two Mini-ITX based PowerPC systems.
Since I am chairing the BOF, the best way to get additional info is to
e-mail me hb then last name at earthlink dot net
If you wish to attend rules require that you register beforehand.
How to time jobs of powerpc in the EDK?
Do anyone have some examples?
...[News] [Linux] New PowerPC with Linux Preinstalled
PowerPC CPU module runs Linux on 24VDC
,----[ Quote ]
| INAT GmbH is shipping a PowerPC-based PC/104 CPU module that
| targets industrial applications requiring 24VDC power. The board
| is based on a 266MHz AMCC 405EP processor and includes RAM and
| flash memory, and Ethernet and serial ports, and comes with Linux
| 2.4.25 pre-installed.
...OS/2 for PowerPC
Is it possible to run OS/2 for PPC on something other then a RS/6000?
(Possibly Apple? <just a thought>)
On 2 Oct 2005 12:53:59 -0700, "JimboJones768@gmail.com"
>Is it possible to run OS/2 for PPC on something other then a RS/6000?
>(Possibly Apple? <just a thought>)
No Apples. No R6k. See:
'As I walk along these shores
I am the history within'
...Linux flavors for the PowerPC
I'm growing increasingly frustrated trying to get Debian up and working on a
PowerMac. Does anyone have success/failure stories to offer about other
flavors of linux for the PowerMac, e.g. Yellow Dog?
In article <flsFb.28461$jG4.firstname.lastname@example.org>, M. Pender
> I'm growing increasingly frustrated trying to get Debian up and working on a
> PowerMac. Does anyone have success/failure stories to offer about other
> flavors of linux for the PowerMac, e.g. Yellow Dog?
> - Mike
Plenty of fellow-frustration stories to <ahem> if not cheer you up,
then at least diffuse that fatal feeling of victimisation!
My biggest success is Debian Woody on a 7300/200 with access from
CD-ROM and read/write to floppy, but that's without X11, and forget
about printing of course! Yellow Dog 2.2 worked partially ONCE! but
2.3 got no further than a blinking log-in screen (the irony was that as
soon as you hit C_A_Delete the screen woked fine while it shutdown!).
I can get Debian 2.1 to run (terminal only of course) on an old SE/30
and it will even read from a zip-drive (not write though).
Finally I thought - OK I'll buy a G4 tower and that's bound to work. Oh
No! Got an identical result with YDL, and in Debian the Yaboot version
is too old, nor will it tolerate an updated version; it installed but
wouldn't reboot. So I've just about given up (excep...powerpc Linux distro
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I am about to get rid of the PowerPC Macs I have. I promised to install
a Linux on them. Which is the most up to date distro, which would have
some life left for time to come?
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On 2011-08-23, the following emerged from the brain of Kari Laine:
> I am about to get rid of the PowerPC Macs I have. I promised to
> install a Linux on them. Which is the most up to date distro, which
> would have some life left for time to come?
Debian has a pretty good PPC release. I installed it on a good number
of old PPC Macs myself.
should get you going.
Opera is where a guy gets stabbed in the back, an...x86 or mac powerpc
I'm going to buy a computer a Athlox XP 3200 (X86) or a Mac PowerPc G4
what is the best to install Linux ?
VP <email@example.com> writes:
> I'm going to buy a computer a Athlox XP 3200 (X86) or a Mac PowerPc G4
> what is the best to install Linux ?
I'd say the Athlon.
If you want a PowerPC processor, try Pegasos or other CHRP PPC
motherboard, but it will be more expensive than a normal Athlon
The problem with Apple hardware is that it's proprietary. There are
not drivers for all the devices included, and most often there is even
no documentation about these devices.
Anybody has the documentation of the i2c-modem modem included in my
iBook 12" G3? Or of the Airport eXtreme Wifi card included in my
At least, when you buy PC or CHRP hardware, you get to choose what
hardware you include and select only hardware for which you have Linux
Besides, for all I know (from all the benchmarks I've run up to now,
mainly compilation jobs), Athlon processors are much faster than G3 or
G4. Why, even a 850 MHz Duron with a cheap motherboard and only 128
MB of RAM beats a 800 MHz ppc7450 iMac with 512 MB of RAM! (with the
same Linux OS).
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never
stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people...Channel extension works on Intel Linux, fails on PowerPC Linux in Tcl 8.4.13
On another thread, I've been wondering what is wrong with my channel
extension and why it won't read data from a raw socket. Turns out my
code seems to be fine and there's some OS dependency. I stripped it
down and built for Intel Linux (Fedora Core 4) and it works fine. The
stripped-down extension fails on PowerPC Linux (2.4.18 Redhat) (Yes, I
know that's ancient.) I looked on SourceForge for any
platform-dependent bugs in channel code. Heck, I looked at any channel
bugs in 8.4.x. I found nothing that seemed promising.
Is anyone using Tcl 8.4 on PowerPC Linux with succe...[9fans] bug in powerpc libc powerpc memccpy.s
There is only one required change, Line 22 needs to change from
the MOVW to the ADD. As implemented, memccpy() returns the wrong
pointer into the wrong string. The other changes are whitespace
related. Oh yeah, and the Z on the store doesn't really make sense
to me, so I got rid of it. The store with or without the Z results
in the same instruction.
diff local/sys/src/libc/power/memccpy.s dist/sys/src/libc/power/memccpy.s
< MOVW R3, s1+0(FP)
> MOVW R3, s1+0(FP)
< MOVBU R6, 1(R3)
> MOVBZU R6, 1(R3)
< ADD $1, R3
...Linux on PowerPC ABI questions
I'm planning a port of a concurrent functional language
to Linux/PPC, and I have a few questions regarding the ABI.
I'm assuming Linux follows the "SYSTEM V APPLICATION BINARY
INTERFACE PowerPC Processor Supplement" document by SunSoft/IBM,
dated September '95 (psABI). If this is not the case, can
someone please point me to the correct ABI document?
1. It appears, from reading the psABI and gcc sources, that
r2 contains the TOC/GOT and r13 the small data pointer,
and both registers are reserved. Is this true?
2. On page 3-24, section Virtual Address Assignments, there
is a comment stating that although a program base of 64K
is conventional, they recommend a program base of 32M,
and refer to Chapter 5 (Program Loading and Dynamic Linking)
for justification. I can't find anything there to back up
their recommendation. As I understand it, a program base of
32M makes it impossible to use "branch absolute" instructions
for calls within the application's code (exluding shared libs).
So why use a program base of 32M?
3. In Chapter 4 (Object files) the psABI describes "Tags", a
mechanism apparently used to discover register values while
doing stack backtracing in debuggers and exception handlers.
What, if anything, uses these tags in normal C code? longjmp()
might, but it seems longjmp() uses the conventional approach
of simply saving the registers at setjmp() and trowing back
withou...Embedded System / PowerPC / Linux
We are currently searching people with a strong background in Embedded
System / PowerPC / Linux
We are asking your help to provide us some contacts.
We look forward to your answer,
...flash for Mac on linux Powerpc ?
Hello, I'm sorry for my incompetence in powerpc, but I'want to solve
this problem. Anyone try Flash binary compiled for Mac on a powerpc
whith linux ? Can it work or it can only on a Mac operating system ?
> Hello, I'm sorry for my incompetence in powerpc, but I'want to solve
> this problem. Anyone try Flash binary compiled for Mac on a powerpc
> whith linux ? Can it work or it can only on a Mac operating system ?
I run Debian on my iBook and the swf-plugin for the galeon browser
Erik de Castro Lopo firstname.lastname@example.org (Yes it's valid)
I have found that good programmers either do not make the kind of
mistakes that Ada can prevent, or insert enough checks that they catch
those mistakes about as efficiently as an Ada environment can. At that
point, the use of Ada gives no further productivity advantage.
Yes, the plugin of flash player work, I know it, but I speak about
macromedia flash, the program, not plugin for browser.
It can be downloaded (with a free registration) for try it.
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> maxi wrote:
>>Hello, I'm sorry for my incompetence in powerpc, but I'want to solve
>>this problem. Anyone try Flash binary compiled for Mac on a powerpc
>>whith linu...Porting Linux for PowerPC-7410
Can any body help me out in selecting the latest stable linux Kernel
i can choose it for Porting for a Powerpc-7410.
what is the reference board for SMVE/DME-181 from dy4 Systems.
...Virtual PowerPC on OS X?
I need a PPC emulator. Something like Virtual PC, but which provides a
virtual PowerPC, not x86. The reason is that I run OS X and want to
experiment with the OpenDarwin system, but I don't want to dual boot
Is anyone able to help with some info, please?
In article <email@example.com>,
firstname.lastname@example.org (Alistair Happencross) wrote:
> I need a PPC emulator. Something like Virtual PC, but which provides a
> virtual PowerPC, not x86. The reason is that I run OS X and want to
> experiment with the OpenD...Performance measurements for Linux on PowerPC?
Does anyone know if there are tools/utilities available to do
performance measurements for applications running under
Linux on a PowerPC?
Chris van Engelen
Hilversum, The Netherlands
e-mail: c-v-engelen-@-aim-sys.nl (remove the dashes)
"Chris van Engelen" <email@example.com> writes:
> Does anyone know if there are tools/utilities available to do
> performance measurements for applications running under
> Linux on a PowerPC?
Don't know about applications, but for a general assessment of machine
performance you can use nbench.
Stefano | Department of Psychology, University of Bologna
Ghirlanda | Interdisciplinary cultural research, Stockholm University
...The ultimate Linux PowerPC advocacy
> As an Apple Authorized Reseller, Terra Soft is now receiving
> pre-orders for Apple G5s. When the units are made available, Terra
> Soft will prepare the drive with a partition for Yellow Dog Linux
> and install Mac OS X. With the G5, Terra Soft's customer will
> receive the current Yellow Dog Linux CDs, 280-page "Getting
> Started" book, sticker, and T-shirt. The updated Install CDs will
> be shipped at no additional charge when the G5s are supported. In
> addition, those who pre-order now will receive free installation
YDL G5s cost the same as those sold by the online Apple Store.
So you'll get the goodies for no extra charge. Hard disks are vast
these days, there's plenty of room for Linux and OS X. Terra
Soft will install both.
> To pre-order an Apple G5, visit Terra Soft's on-line Store.
> Terra Soft anticipates Yellow Dog Linux support for G5 by the
> close of August.
YDL deserves applause. But it's important to remember that Linux
also gives older machines new life. So projects like Debian
GNU/Linux PPC are worthy of support.
links <http://www.well.com/user/silly/hcc5.html> firstname.lastname@example.org
> Hard disks are vast these days, there's plenty of room for Linux
> and OS X. Terra Soft will ins...powerPC linux boot sequence
Any can help me to find the boot sequence of powerPC 83xx of linux
kernel after the bootloader transfer control to kernel..
Please please help me....
> Any can help me to find the boot sequence of powerPC 83xx of linux
> kernel after the bootloader transfer control to kernel..
Look in this area:
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5009 Old Field Ct. (c) 678 521 5460
Kennesaw, GA, USA 30144 http://mnmoran.org
"So often times it happens, that we live our lives in chains
and we never even know we ...Softmodem development on PowerPC under LINUX.
I am new to SoftModem and PowerPC.
My task was to develop a soft modem for a powerPC under Linux
In my view, a soft modem simulates the job of the hardware, which
actually resides in traditional modem.
That means the CPU has to take the burden of doing all the DSP stuff
additionally in softmodem.
For efficiency purpose I want to write the above DSP in PowerPC
assembly and want to integrate this code in Linux.
Can I do this?
Is there any free source code already available?
What in general people do to develop a softmodem. They code in
assembly or C?
...Linux for custom PowerPC board?
Can anyone suggest a Linux project that might not be too painful to get
booted on a custom PowerPC (MPC855T or IBM405GPr) board? I have 1MB of
FLASH and 64 to 512MB of SDRAM.
- Mark ->
"Mark A. Odell" <email@example.com> writes:
>Can anyone suggest a Linux project that might not be too painful to get
>booted on a custom PowerPC (MPC855T or IBM405GPr) board? I have 1MB of
>FLASH and 64 to 512MB of SDRAM.
Maybe the ELDK? See http://www.denx.de/twiki/bin/view/DULG/Manual
Software Enginee...Linux powerPC smtp issue
I have a code with cpp files and headers and I have a make file that
was created for the project. I'm doing the MAKE on linux and
everything works - when I use telnet to the controller that uses linux
with a Power PC cpu I move to the folder and when I write down MAKE
nothing happens. I was wondering how can I use this to work from intel
cpu to ppc cpu? and I tried to work with CodeBlock adn I could not do
a thing since the power pc cpp or gcc was not installed. Where can I
find the files? are they free?
Please help me out - all I want to do is to be able to send a mail
from a controller - what can be simple then that :) but with no luck :
Can some one help me with this - is there a simple smtp client that
works on linux wnd PowerPC computers??
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 05:44:50 -0700 (PDT),
Arye C# <firstname.lastname@example.org>, in
> Can some one help me with this - is there a simple smtp client that
> works on linux wnd PowerPC computers??
Yes, several. Take a look at:
Sorting down for you (a lot of libraries, too, dealing with SMTP):
esmtp - User configurable relay-only MTA
msmtp - light SMTP client with support for server profiles
ssmtp - extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub
Do you have a full blown SMTP server?