Passing DHCP through a wireless AP (Cisco Aironet)

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I have a Cisco Aironet 1100 wireless access point. I have given it a fixed
IP address (Network Interface - IP Addresses - Static IP).

Some of my wireless computers require fixed IP's for ports that are being
forwarded to them. Other wireless PC can/do have dynamic IP's.

Problem is that the AP is not broadcasting the DHCP from the router.

Anyone know in general, or specifically for this AP if there is a setting,
or service that I have to enable so that SOME of the wireless PCs can use &
see the DHCP server through the AP (I want the AP to still have a static
address)?

Thanks


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Reply N455 (111) 11/14/2003 11:55:01 AM

We have several of these APs.  They do not support DHCP.  you need a 3rd
party authentication software to do DHCP.

"Jack B. Pollack" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
news:1068810920.985103@news3.bigplanet.com...
> I have a Cisco Aironet 1100 wireless access point. I have given it a fixed
> IP address (Network Interface - IP Addresses - Static IP).
>
> Some of my wireless computers require fixed IP's for ports that are being
> forwarded to them. Other wireless PC can/do have dynamic IP's.
>
> Problem is that the AP is not broadcasting the DHCP from the router.
>
> Anyone know in general, or specifically for this AP if there is a setting,
> or service that I have to enable so that SOME of the wireless PCs can use
&
> see the DHCP server through the AP (I want the AP to still have a static
> address)?
>
> Thanks
>
>


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Reply Chuck 11/14/2003 6:07:51 PM


On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:07:51 GMT, "Chuck Lloyd" <NoSPammers@Guessnot.com>
wrote:

>"Jack B. Pollack" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
>news:1068810920.985103@news3.bigplanet.com...
>> I have a Cisco Aironet 1100 wireless access point. I have given it a fixed
>> IP address (Network Interface - IP Addresses - Static IP).
>>
>> Some of my wireless computers require fixed IP's for ports that are being
>> forwarded to them. Other wireless PC can/do have dynamic IP's.
>>
>> Problem is that the AP is not broadcasting the DHCP from the router.
>>
>> Anyone know in general, or specifically for this AP if there is a setting,
>> or service that I have to enable so that SOME of the wireless PCs can use
>&
>> see the DHCP server through the AP (I want the AP to still have a static
>> address)?

>We have several of these APs.  They do not support DHCP.  you need a 3rd
>party authentication software to do DHCP.

Eh? 

Where would this "3rd party authentication software" execute to get around a
WAP that not only doesn't provide a DHCP server itself, it supposedly doesn't
even pass through DHCP requests from its own clients, and responses from, say,
the router that the WAP is plugged into?

One of us must be confused (and yeah, it might be me ;-)
Perhaps those WAPs don't *provide* DHCP services, but it's hard to imagine why
one would even attempt to market a WAP that didn't pass through DHCP
traffic...

/daytripper
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Reply daytripper 11/14/2003 10:22:36 PM

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:55:01 -0500, "Jack B. Pollack" <N@NE.nothing> wrote:

>I have a Cisco Aironet 1100 wireless access point. I have given it a fixed
>IP address (Network Interface - IP Addresses - Static IP).
>
>Some of my wireless computers require fixed IP's for ports that are being
>forwarded to them. Other wireless PC can/do have dynamic IP's.
>
>Problem is that the AP is not broadcasting the DHCP from the router.
>
>Anyone know in general, or specifically for this AP if there is a setting,
>or service that I have to enable so that SOME of the wireless PCs can use &
>see the DHCP server through the AP (I want the AP to still have a static
>address)?
>
>Thanks
>

The following is excerpted from your WAPs installation guide, which can be
seen at

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps4570/products_installation_and_configuration_guide_chapter09186a008010234f.html

=============================================================
"If the access point is configured with default values and not connected to a
DHCP server or cannot obtain an IP address, it defaults to IP address 10.0.0.1
and becomes a mini-DHCP server. In that capacity, the access point provides up
to twenty IP addresses between 10.0.0.11 and 10.0.0.30 to the following
devices:

- An Ethernet-capable PC connected to its Ethernet port
- Wireless client devices configured to use either no SSID or tsunami as the
SSID, and with all security settings disabled.

The mini-DHCP server feature is disabled automatically when you assign a
static IP address to the access point."
==============================================================

So, that isn't a TOTAL piece of crap router. You *can* configure it so
wireless clients can be granted IP addresses via DHCP. 
You just have to have your wireless segment exist in a specific subnet ;-)

hth

/daytripper
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Reply daytripper 11/14/2003 10:32:17 PM

So it sounds like If I assign my own IP to the AP it wont act as a DHCP
server and more importantly wont pass DHCP from the router.

Any way around this (like to pass DHCP from the router through)?

Thanks

"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8mlarvsdri5vo7d55tmjnvgsok8potcmn6@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:55:01 -0500, "Jack B. Pollack" <N@NE.nothing>
wrote:
>
> >I have a Cisco Aironet 1100 wireless access point. I have given it a
fixed
> >IP address (Network Interface - IP Addresses - Static IP).
> >
> >Some of my wireless computers require fixed IP's for ports that are being
> >forwarded to them. Other wireless PC can/do have dynamic IP's.
> >
> >Problem is that the AP is not broadcasting the DHCP from the router.
> >
> >Anyone know in general, or specifically for this AP if there is a
setting,
> >or service that I have to enable so that SOME of the wireless PCs can use
&
> >see the DHCP server through the AP (I want the AP to still have a static
> >address)?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
>
> The following is excerpted from your WAPs installation guide, which can be
> seen at
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps4570/products_installation
_and_configuration_guide_chapter09186a008010234f.html
>
> =============================================================
> "If the access point is configured with default values and not connected
to a
> DHCP server or cannot obtain an IP address, it defaults to IP address
10.0.0.1
> and becomes a mini-DHCP server. In that capacity, the access point
provides up
> to twenty IP addresses between 10.0.0.11 and 10.0.0.30 to the following
> devices:
>
> - An Ethernet-capable PC connected to its Ethernet port
> - Wireless client devices configured to use either no SSID or tsunami as
the
> SSID, and with all security settings disabled.
>
> The mini-DHCP server feature is disabled automatically when you assign a
> static IP address to the access point."
> ==============================================================
>
> So, that isn't a TOTAL piece of crap router. You *can* configure it so
> wireless clients can be granted IP addresses via DHCP.
> You just have to have your wireless segment exist in a specific subnet ;-)
>
> hth
>
> /daytripper


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Reply Jack 11/15/2003 12:00:55 AM

"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:k5larvo6sfi07nbdr39nva9s78cmn2jthc@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:07:51 GMT, "Chuck Lloyd" <NoSPammers@Guessnot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Jack B. Pollack" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
> >news:1068810920.985103@news3.bigplanet.com...
> >> I have a Cisco Aironet 1100 wireless access point. I have given it a
fixed
> >> IP address (Network Interface - IP Addresses - Static IP).
> >>
> >> Some of my wireless computers require fixed IP's for ports that are
being
> >> forwarded to them. Other wireless PC can/do have dynamic IP's.
> >>
> >> Problem is that the AP is not broadcasting the DHCP from the router.
> >>
> >> Anyone know in general, or specifically for this AP if there is a
setting,
> >> or service that I have to enable so that SOME of the wireless PCs can
use
> >&
> >> see the DHCP server through the AP (I want the AP to still have a
static
> >> address)?
>
> >We have several of these APs.  They do not support DHCP.  you need a 3rd
> >party authentication software to do DHCP.
>
> Eh?
>
> Where would this "3rd party authentication software" execute to get around
a
> WAP that not only doesn't provide a DHCP server itself, it supposedly
doesn't
> even pass through DHCP requests from its own clients, and responses from,
say,
> the router that the WAP is plugged into?
>
> One of us must be confused (and yeah, it might be me ;-)
> Perhaps those WAPs don't *provide* DHCP services, but it's hard to imagine
why
> one would even attempt to market a WAP that didn't pass through DHCP
> traffic...
>
> /daytripper

I am not entirely sure either, when the consultants came in to install our
APs and such, we had to call them back because of the problem.  they said it
was something about LEAP that made it so it can forward DHCP requests only
after you authenticate with the Radius Server.

I could be also confused myself.   4 days trying to rescue Exchange 2000 can
make one confused...crazy...even homicidal!


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Reply Chuck 11/15/2003 10:22:44 PM

"Jack B. Pollack" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
news:1068854500.933865@news3.bigplanet.com...
> So it sounds like If I assign my own IP to the AP it wont act as a DHCP
> server and more importantly wont pass DHCP from the router.
>
> Any way around this (like to pass DHCP from the router through)?
>
> Thanks
<snip>

You could set the access point to obtain an IP address by DHCP and reserve
the address you want it to get from the scope at your DHCP server.

Stace.


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Reply Stace 11/16/2003 12:19:12 AM

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:19:12 -0000, "Stace" <this@does.not.work> wrote:

>"Jack B. Pollack" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
>news:1068854500.933865@news3.bigplanet.com...
>> So it sounds like If I assign my own IP to the AP it wont act as a DHCP
>> server and more importantly wont pass DHCP from the router.
>>
>> Any way around this (like to pass DHCP from the router through)?
>>
>> Thanks
><snip>
>
>You could set the access point to obtain an IP address by DHCP and reserve
>the address you want it to get from the scope at your DHCP server.

Right. And if the concern about not having the WAP use a fixed address is not
being able to find the maintenance gui through a browser, there was reference
to a handy Windows widget that remembers the WAP's mac address and provides
its IP address when launched...

/daytripper (bottom line, though, that WAP's a piece o' crap)

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Reply daytripper 11/16/2003 4:49:10 AM

I have some 1200 waps and these pass on dhcp info no probs.
Can you not set up a dhcp-helper address in the config to pass requests back
to the server ?
"Jack B. Pollack" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
news:1068810920.985103@news3.bigplanet.com...
> I have a Cisco Aironet 1100 wireless access point. I have given it a fixed
> IP address (Network Interface - IP Addresses - Static IP).
>
> Some of my wireless computers require fixed IP's for ports that are being
> forwarded to them. Other wireless PC can/do have dynamic IP's.
>
> Problem is that the AP is not broadcasting the DHCP from the router.
>
> Anyone know in general, or specifically for this AP if there is a setting,
> or service that I have to enable so that SOME of the wireless PCs can use
&
> see the DHCP server through the AP (I want the AP to still have a static
> address)?
>
> Thanks
>
>


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Reply erm 12/9/2003 10:28:40 PM

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