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Is there a version of OS-9 (68K?) that could run on a Apple G4?  (Motorola 
CPU)
Is there any freeware or low cost version?
I havent run it since my CoCo days and happened to stumble on this NG.

TIA
Rich W.


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Reply Frontier 3/10/2009 2:04:20 AM

Frontier News wrote:
> Is there a version of OS-9 (68K?) that could run on a Apple G4?  
> (Motorola CPU)
> Is there any freeware or low cost version?
> I havent run it since my CoCo days and happened to stumble on this NG.
> 
> TIA
> Rich W.
> 
> 

Depending on the specs of the machine, OSX will run on a G4.  I have one 
running Tiger, and one running Panther.  That are a bit slow, but 
working pretty well.

Post the specs on the machine, I may be able to tell you more.

Lee
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Reply Leonidas 3/10/2009 3:05:45 AM


On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:05:45 +0000, Leonidas Jones wrote:

> Frontier News wrote:
>> Is there a version of OS-9 (68K?) that could run on a Apple G4?
>> (Motorola CPU)
>> Is there any freeware or low cost version? I havent run it since my
>> CoCo days and happened to stumble on this NG.
>> 
>> TIA
>> Rich W.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Depending on the specs of the machine, OSX will run on a G4.  I have one
> running Tiger, and one running Panther.  That are a bit slow, but
> working pretty well.
> 
> Post the specs on the machine, I may be able to tell you more.
>
You're in the wrong group, mate. The OP was asking about porting 
Microware's OS-9, not an obsolete Apple OS.

To the OP - I've never heard of a port for the G4, but IIRC V3.x would 
run on the 68040 and 68040.


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Reply Martin 3/11/2009 9:26:40 PM

Martin Gregorie wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:05:45 +0000, Leonidas Jones wrote:
> 
>> Frontier News wrote:
>>> Is there a version of OS-9 (68K?) that could run on a Apple G4?
>>> (Motorola CPU)
>>> Is there any freeware or low cost version? I havent run it since my
>>> CoCo days and happened to stumble on this NG.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Rich W.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Depending on the specs of the machine, OSX will run on a G4.  I have one
>> running Tiger, and one running Panther.  That are a bit slow, but
>> working pretty well.
>>
>> Post the specs on the machine, I may be able to tell you more.
>>
> You're in the wrong group, mate. The OP was asking about porting 
> Microware's OS-9, not an obsolete Apple OS.
> 
> To the OP - I've never heard of a port for the G4, but IIRC V3.x would 
> run on the 68040 and 68040.
> 
> 

My apologies.  I do know that this group used to have discussions about 
the Mac System 9, though you are clearly right about the OP's intent.

Lee
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Reply Leonidas 3/12/2009 12:05:54 AM

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:05:54 +0000, Leonidas Jones wrote:

> My apologies.  I do know that this group used to have discussions about
> the Mac System 9, though you are clearly right about the OP's intent.
> 
Only by mistake. This group has been focussed on Microware's OS-9 
operating system since at least the min '90s. 

Microware OS-9 predates Apple's Macintosh series by 4 years and is still 
alive and well. However I notice that Apple's OS 9 is dead and buried.


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Reply Martin 3/12/2009 1:01:51 PM

Martin Gregorie wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:05:54 +0000, Leonidas Jones wrote:
> 
>> My apologies.  I do know that this group used to have discussions about
>> the Mac System 9, though you are clearly right about the OP's intent.
>>
> Only by mistake. This group has been focussed on Microware's OS-9 
> operating system since at least the min '90s. 
> 
> Microware OS-9 predates Apple's Macintosh series by 4 years and is still 
> alive and well. However I notice that Apple's OS 9 is dead and buried.
> 
> 

You might be surprised.  I still spend a fair amount of time giving 
support to OS 9 users.  Now and again, I still get questions from OS 8 
users.

I would admit, OS 7 seems to be pretty dead.  ;)

Lee
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Reply Leonidas 3/12/2009 11:43:22 PM

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:43:22 +0000, Leonidas Jones wrote:

> You might be surprised.  I still spend a fair amount of time giving
> support to OS 9 users.  Now and again, I still get questions from OS 8
> users.
>
OK - I hadn't heard much about it recently, is all.
 
> I would admit, OS 7 seems to be pretty dead.  ;)
> 
Except, I'd imagine to the enthusiasts who still run Mac SEs?

I wonder if there are still any Lisas alive and working. I used one in 
'84 and liked it a lot.


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Reply Martin 3/12/2009 11:53:32 PM

Martin Gregorie wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:43:22 +0000, Leonidas Jones wrote:
> 
>> You might be surprised.  I still spend a fair amount of time giving
>> support to OS 9 users.  Now and again, I still get questions from OS 8
>> users.
>>
> OK - I hadn't heard much about it recently, is all.
>  
>> I would admit, OS 7 seems to be pretty dead.  ;)
>>
> Except, I'd imagine to the enthusiasts who still run Mac SEs?
> 
> I wonder if there are still any Lisas alive and working. I used one in 
> '84 and liked it a lot.
> 
> 

It wouldn't surprise me  if some people actually still have working 
Lisa's.  Its what led to the Macintosh in the first place. A quick look 
only found some souvenir items up for sale.

For those who may not be old enough to remember:

http://oldcomputers.net/lisa.html

Lee
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Reply Leonidas 3/13/2009 12:29:48 AM

On Mar 9, 7:04=A0pm, "Frontier News" <tur...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Is there a version of OS-9 (68K?) that could run on a Apple G4? =A0(Motor=
ola
> CPU)
> Is there any freeware or low cost version?
> I havent run it since my CoCo days and happened to stumble on this NG.
>
> TIA
> Rich W.

Have you searched for OS-9000? IIRC, that was a 68000 version - mainly
supported by a German group. There used to be a ton of it on
CompuServe before the collapse.
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Reply N 3/13/2009 2:30:52 AM

Leonidas Jones wrote:

> Martin Gregorie wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:43:22 +0000, Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>
>>> You might be surprised.  I still spend a fair amount of time giving
>>> support to OS 9 users.  Now and again, I still get questions from OS 8
>>> users.
>>>
>> OK - I hadn't heard much about it recently, is all.
>>  
>>> I would admit, OS 7 seems to be pretty dead.  ;)
>>>
>> Except, I'd imagine to the enthusiasts who still run Mac SEs?
>>
>> I wonder if there are still any Lisas alive and working. I used one in 
>> '84 and liked it a lot.
>>
>>
> 
> It wouldn't surprise me  if some people actually still have working 
> Lisa's.  Its what led to the Macintosh in the first place. A quick look 
> only found some souvenir items up for sale.
> 
> For those who may not be old enough to remember:
> 
> http://oldcomputers.net/lisa.html
> 
> Lee

Okay, here is one:

http://www.oodle.com/view/Apple-Lisa-Computer-Complete-System/1217527705/usa/

Lee
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Reply Leonidas 3/13/2009 3:03:36 AM

In article <27fc3926-746c-4e65-b56a-54948cd02a7e@33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
	N Morrison <Another1171@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mar 9, 7:04�pm, "Frontier News" <tur...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> Is there a version of OS-9 (68K?) that could run on a Apple G4? �(Motorola
>> CPU)
>> Is there any freeware or low cost version?
>> I havent run it since my CoCo days and happened to stumble on this NG.
>>
>> TIA
>> Rich W.
> Have you searched for OS-9000? IIRC, that was a 68000 version - 

No, that was Microware's re-write in a high level language (I always
assumed C but I never saw any of the source) for Intel boxes.  The
68000 ran OS9-68K.

>                                                                   mainly
> supported by a German group. 

While there may have been a very active German Users Group, OS9. OS9-68K
and OS9000 are and always have been supported by their owner, MicroWare.

>                               There used to be a ton of it on
> CompuServe before the collapse.

That would be User Group stuff and not the OS itself which is certainly
not just another open source project.

bill


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Reply billg999 3/13/2009 11:49:20 AM

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:03:36 +0000, Leonidas Jones wrote:

> Leonidas Jones wrote:
> 
>> Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:43:22 +0000, Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>> You might be surprised.  I still spend a fair amount of time giving
>>>> support to OS 9 users.  Now and again, I still get questions from OS
>>>> 8 users.
>>>>
>>> OK - I hadn't heard much about it recently, is all.
>>>  
>>>> I would admit, OS 7 seems to be pretty dead.  ;)
>>>>
>>> Except, I'd imagine to the enthusiasts who still run Mac SEs?
>>>
>>> I wonder if there are still any Lisas alive and working. I used one in
>>> '84 and liked it a lot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> It wouldn't surprise me  if some people actually still have working
>> Lisa's.  Its what led to the Macintosh in the first place. A quick look
>> only found some souvenir items up for sale.
>> 
>> For those who may not be old enough to remember:
>> 
>> http://oldcomputers.net/lisa.html
>> 
>> Lee
> 
> Okay, here is one:
> 
> http://www.oodle.com/view/Apple-Lisa-Computer-Complete-
System/1217527705/usa/
>
That's good to know. In some respects the Mac was a step down from the 
Lisa. Yes, I know the Mac was faster and cheaper, but I thought the 'pad 
of documents' concept was brilliant and was disappointed to see that it 
had been dropped. I really liked the way you never started an 
application, but just tore another sheet off the pad. However, I suppose 
it wouldn't have been a good fit with, say, a web browser.

Getting back on topic: Have you contacted Radisys: 
http://www.radisys.com/

They who bought Microware and now sell OS-9? They would certainly know if 
there was a G4 port. 

OS-9 has never been free. Apart, that is, from the Nitros project, which 
aimed to produce an open source version of the original 8/16 version of 
OS-9 that ran on the Motorola 6809 (hence its name). However, I haven't 
heard anything about Nitros for a long time so it may be moribund.


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