[9fans] Dvorak on Plan9; Plan9/Acme for Unix
I just started toying around with Plan9. Some questions:
Are there ways to switch my keyboard layout, to Dvorak? If not,
what file would I have to edit in what way to get a new layout?
Are there Acme or even total Plan9 clones for Unix (in particular
Mac OS X, but X11 windowing would be fine)? I know there's Wily,
but I can't get it to compile, and the website seems kindof
old/unmaintained. Are there other, still alive versions of some
Acme for Unix, or of a library that emulates the Plan9 interface?
> Are there Acme or even total Plan9 clones for Unix (in particular
&g...[9fans] user login / plan9 terminal on plan9
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here is a quick question. let us say i am logged in as glenda or none. let
us say, i want a new window in which i need to login as vdharani. how can i
do this? in unix machines, i could do su, telnet or ssh and then login as
new user. i am looking for something like this.
years back i asked the same question and then ended up finding something
like 9term which was good enough (except that as i mentioned in the other
thread, if i started infern...[9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS
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I've just installed (with few difficulties, I must admit) a fresh Plan9 on
my Dell Inspiron laptop.
I played with it and I'd really like to study it and get used to it.
Ideally, I would like to make it my "everyday OS", to do all the nice stuff
you can do with a computer (a part from work and study), like browsing the
web, watching movies and so on...
Is anyone using it for such things?
Is there, for example, a decent browser for Plan9 (I haven't found any)...What features are only availalbe on plan9 OS but not on plan9port?
Hi. Sorry for my English :-/
I'm newly interested in plan9 stuffs.
I want to know what would be the differences between plan9 on
virtual machine and plan9port. Can someone kindly explain it?
On Mon Nov 5 08:45:06 EST 2012, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> Hi. Sorry for my English :-/
> I'm newly interested in plan9 stuffs.
> I want to know what would be the differences between plan9 on
> virtual machine and plan9port. Can someone kindly explain it?
the differences are quite fundamental.
p9p tries to add some plan9 bits like acme to other systems. when...[9fans] Resizing acme tags in plan9
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The P9P version of acme has had multi-line tags for a while now, but
there is still a "bug" lurking in the implementation; it's a bit of a
semantic issue with allocating lines of pixels to the various
windows, which I'll get to below. The bug manifests as occasional
black lines between windows in a column, and minor confusion when a
bunch of collapsed (tag-only) windows cluster at the bottom of a
column. I'll explain the confusion in a bit. The bug only manifests
if you mix fonts within a column.
When I impl...[9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS?
at work we run a handful of Win32 servers (god help me) and a
few unix servers. we're doing tape backup nightly. our full
backups are at the limit of what our tape drive can deal with
and are still growing. so we need to come up with a different
and, more to the point, i *HATE* tape backup.
further, plan9's dump fs is the best backup system i've ever
seen (and, along with /lib/ndb, the thing that made me fall
in love with the system as a sysadmin).
so... any suggestions on how to use either the old 3e fs,
fossil, and/or venti to perform backups from non-plan9
systems? ...Re: [9fans] Resizing acme tags in plan9
you're talking about the layout within columns, not the layout
of the columns from left to right, right?
within columns, it would be nice if new windows were sometimes
opened below the last one touched. perhaps i should always work
at the bottom of a column, but i don't. zerox nearly always
chooses the wrong place for the new window -- all the way at the
among columns, it would be nice if the column guide box (or
whatever it's called) worked like the window guide box.
clicking on it should expand the column horizontally.
one thing i would like to see added to acme is a...Re: [9fans] rio & acme & plan9
I have had trouble getting a handle on Plan9. I got it working on an
old PC, but didn't understand if I had a file server, cpu server,
terminal, or all 3. The screens looked great, but I never quite got
the hang of using it. Can Rio/Acme run under Windows or Linux? I'd
love to give it another shot. Must/should you have separate file/cpu
I also really would like to see an SF-bay meeting, if only to see
Plan9 in action. I've been using command-line interfaces since
teletypes & 026 keypunches, and I remain convinced that I could learn
> I've...[9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS? #2
You can use cacls utility shipped with Windows or xcacls
from NTResKit to store/retrieve file permissions to/from separate file
and put it in your backup.
- VVV -
...[9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and Plan9port Acme
Considering how difficult it is to find a new usb mouse with 3 real
buttons I'm looking for workarounds. I have a Contour Mouse Perfit and
I enjoy it a lot but buying a new Contour Mouse is expensive and very
difficult in terms of shipping when you live in Russia, Contour just
don't ship it.
I see there are few new "touch scroll" mice in stores and one of them
Logitech T400 looks not bad to me. Unfortunately they don't have wired
version but the "touch scroll" feels like a "styled 3rd button".
Did anyone had a chance to test Logitech T400 m...Re: [9fans] using plan9 fs for archive from other OS?
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Vac (backing up to venti) runs on windows systems. You can back up using that, though
at the moment getting files back has to come via plan9. That will eventually be fixed.
Of course, we don't backup exactly the windows access rights (they have a rather rich
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my paying job kept me busy for quite sometime. so far i couldnt spend as
much time on inferno/plan9 as i wanted to. but i have taken 2 weeks off and
i am happy that i will be using part of the free time to keep up with the
technology (so i will be posting more!).
specifically, i am trying to do this:
- bring up plan9 on my Mac Mini using Parallels for Mac (4 or at least 3).
- get plan9/inferno run on soekris net5501 board
- miscellaneous t...[9fans] plan9 now officially not the OS with the ugliest GUI anymore
i don't want to hear anyone complain about the plan9 gui anymore, lest
they be cast into the world of LoseThos:
from the website:
"The LoseThos IBM PC Operating System
x86_64, open source, free, public domain
1) LoseThos will always run everything in kernel mode. There is no
user mode. All programs will have full
access to memory, I/O ports, instructions, etc."
We just need some rounded edges.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM, andrey mirtchovski
<mirtchovski@gmail...[9fans] non-plan9 acme: slight non-sensitive margin right of scrollbars?
maybe it is just me. anyway, with p9p acme I have been
noticing a slight margin just to the right of the scroll bars,
immediately to the left of the text, in which it is not
sensitive to mouse clicks and, if the mouse is there,
also not to text being entered. I guess I noticed it first
at least a year ago, dunno when, and at the time my p9p
version was old and I did not update it often
so I did not bother mentioning it.
now I'm working with acme-sac (0.14 on intel imac,
in case it might matter) and noticing the same.
I just tried with acme on plan 9 (parallels on imac)
and there it works...[9fans] Installing plan9 on Parallels build 6.0.12090 [Mac OS 10.6.7] kernel panic
I'm trying to install plan9 as a VM using Parallels build 6.0.12090. I'm =
running Mac OS 10.6.7.
I made a VM in Parallels, and set it to boot to CD first. It got up and =
running, and when the installer tried to boot into sdD0, I explicitly =
told 9load to boot from:
I think that the installer tried to search for USB peripherals, but =
during that stage I got the following message:
panic: boot process died: unknown
panic: boot process died: unknown
ktrace /kernel/path f010a27c f004c34c <<EOF
f004c2ec=3Df010a011 f004c2f4=3Df01db...[9fans] [9fans ] What's the best access method to Plan9 from Linux
Currently, I installed a Plan9 system on a computer while I still
usually work under Debian Linux running on another computer. So I
wonder how I can conveniently access the Plan9 system from my Linux
box? That is, what is the best way to access Plan9 from Linux? SSH?
or any other more Plan9 welcome methods? And, of course, I have tried
to learn them from Plan9 wiki but feel yet difficult to understand
some concepts there, such as u9fs etc.
BTW: I have used ``Plan9 from user space'' port on my Linux box for a
while. Is it useful to meet the mission mentioned above?
Thank...[9fans] Developing in plan9
I've been interested in plan 9 for a while now & I've recently installed
it on my MacBook Pro (under Parallels) and I've been digging around in
it (setting up networking, getting used to acme, etc), but now I want to
look into developing programs. Are there any good starting points for this?
I think nemo's intro is what you're looking for:
On 2/23/07, Keith Poole <email@example.com> wrote:
> I've been interested in plan 9 for a while now & I've recent...[9fans] Where to find plan9
Where can we find the plan9 distro?
the iso can be found here:
the home page <http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/> doesn't seem to be
working at the moment
google should be enough...
http://9fans.net should be the result of your search...
But then... Am I the only one unable to reach 9fans.net?
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Riza Dindir <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Hi there,
> Where can we find the plan9 distro?
&...[9fans] plan9 for powermac
I've created a website for the Plan9 PowerMac port. For
now it's just a branch from my homepage, though, maybe it
will end up as more, I don't know. None the less, I am
committed to getting plan9 on my Power Macintosh 5400/120.
The website will display the progression of the project
as it matures, showing devices in a tree based ASCII
...[9fans] VirtualBox and Plan9
Has anyone else tried grabbing the latest Plan9 ISO (from the website)
and installing it via VirtualBox v2.2 ? I got only as far as:
And the whole thing just stalled and hung at that point, so I am
hoping that someone can point me to the wrong vbox settings that I am
I am trying this from a Vista box. Please don't say go to a different
OS and try again. :-)
I've had similar problems on OS X, so I think it's a problem with
VirtualBox, not Vista. I got past initial configuration and
installation, but the system consistently froze whe...[9fans] Plan9 Intro
During last half a year I see pretty active interconnection in this
news. That means your comunity is alive. It's great!
If I want to start work with Plan9 or Inferno where can I receive first
info specially for newbies? From very start!
> If I want to start work with Plan9 or Inferno where can I receive first
> info specially for newbies? From very start!
Read the introductive papers and the wiki.
Tiit Lankots wrote:
>> If I want to start work with Plan9 or Inferno where can I receive
&...[9fans] Plan9 installation
I was trying to install plan9 this weekend and ran into lot of poblems. I
got many little questions in this exercise. I have listed the
questions/issues below. I will be very happy if you can give your
- first, where can i get the latest cd image? can i get the latest one in
"download the distribution archive" link of download section? or is that
both have the latest nightly build cd image?
- bootsetup seems to get confused many times. i tried with CDROM image and
bootsetup reported e...[9fans] New (again) to plan9
Indroducting myself :
Hi there, I am new user of plan9 since I have my raspberry-pi
so I use plan9 (modified SD-card Image from Mr.Miller with standalone-machi=
I used plan9 on x486 many years ago.
It's a pleasure to use it again.
I hope I won't spam the list with too many questions...
currently reading docs & testing setup.=20
I'm also going to use an old computer x686 as another plan9-machine
As I'm Unix user since about 18years...should be ok to learn again plan9 OS
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=...[9fans] plan9 for calculations
I noticed there are some thoughts about using plan9 on supercomputers.
For me supercomputers are usually used to do some heavy calculations.
And this leads me to a question. What software is then used for
programming these calculations? (I mean e.g. linear algebra, i.e.
matrix, calculations.) Where can one read about that?
More, it also leads me to a (perhaps) simpler question. What is the
situations with ordinary machines?
Untill now I have used several libraries in linux, all of them somehow
based on lapack. I used C language (c-lapack), python (numpy), and now
I do some ...