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.....While many on Wall Street blessed the multibillion dollar Compaq deal,
it was not universally praised. Many felt that Compaq had not yet finished
digesting its acquisition of Digital Equipment Corp.

"The Compaq deal was stupid--there's no other good word for it. But the bad
thing is, it was stupid at the time, not just in retrospect," said Jeff
Matthews, general partner at Ram Partners, a Greenwich, Conn.-based hedge
fund that holds no interest in HP. "Walter Hewlett correctly tried to stop
it. But the board was in a position where it was either support Carly or
not, and they had to support Carly, even though it meant doing a really
stupid deal.

"They spent $24 billion in HP stock buying Compaq, and they probably could
have wired $24 billion directly to the bottom of the ocean and been in about
as good shape as they are now," Matthews added. ....



Separately....

http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml;jsessionid=PRSX1
IYGX1UQ4QSNDBCSKH0CJUMEKJVN?articleId=59302327

HP will stick to its strategy selling its portfolio of products, and it will
look for a CEO who believes in that approach, Dunn and Wayman said. "We
think it's a unique portfolio that is stronger together than apart," Wayman
said. There has been much speculation that HP would spin off its hugely
profitable printing business, but the executives said the board isn't
considering that. "What needs to be done is achieving the opportunities
present in a remarkable collection of businesses and assets that make up the
HP portfolio," said Dunn.

....Sounds like Patricia needs a letter or 1000 from the VMS faithful just to
remind her to give us our fair share of advertising and marketing...



Dunn said there wasn't a single triggering event that led the board to ask
Fiorina to step down, a decision it's been considering over several weeks
with the help of outside advisers. She said a search for a new CEO would
begin immediately but added that no candidates for the job have been
contacted.



and this....

http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml?articleId=593023
36

Just three days before Fiorina's exit, announced Wednesday by HP's board of
directors, the Palo Alto, Calif.-based company was in the process of laying
off direct-sales account reps, sources said. As many as 2,000 employees were
slated to be laid off, said one source close to HP.

Sounds like the channel could use a little VMS advertising now....


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Reply a6372 (1957) 2/9/2005 9:58:22 PM

"They spent $24 billion in HP stock buying Compaq, and they probably could
have wired $24 billion directly to the bottom of the ocean and been in about
as good shape as they are now,"

Do you think the guy's opinionated?
If I had said it in here, all the HP apologists would be down my throat in
an instant.

It would be interesting to tally up all the profits generated by all the
pieces of Compaq that were kept in the merger (PC's, iPaq, Tru64, VMS,
Alphaservers, Tandem stuff) for all 3 years since the merger and see what
the total is, and then look at that total profit less the percentage of all
the costs associated with plant closings, layoff costs, etc... attributable
to former Compaq staff and facilities.    I'll bet it's pretty ugly.


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Reply a6372 (1957) 2/9/2005 10:10:21 PM


John Smith wrote:
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> "They spent $24 billion in HP stock buying Compaq, and they probably could
> have wired $24 billion directly to the bottom of the ocean and been in about
> as good shape as they are now,"

Subject:  Elephants can dance
 Date:  Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:18:33 -0500
 From:  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>
 Organization:  Relative
  Newsgroups:   comp.os.vms




Just (finally) read Lou Gerstner's "Who says Elephants can't dance" book.

It was written circa 2002. (so Gerstner was fully aware of what was
going on betwene HP and Compaq).

Gerstner got in IBM  in April 1993.

In page 221 of the paperback, there is a most interesting section on takeovers.

"We need to grow, so let's go acquire somebody" .... "This is a
contagious disease that infects too many executives. When given a choice
of working hard to fix a base business or, instead, completing a
glamorous acquisition and crowing about its promise on the financial TV
stations, too many executives opt for the latter."


"A partial list of companies that were propopsed as acquisition
candidates include: MCI, Nortel, Compaq, SGI and Novell <...> Investment
bankers with thick blue books were alwasy ready to describe a yellow
brick road leading to the wonderful city of Oz. NOT ONE OF THESE DEALS
WOULD HAVE WORKED.


"I could tell a lot of investment-banker stories, but perhaps the one
that stands out in my mind the most was the proposal from one bank that
IBM acquire Compaq Computer."

Gertsner then goes on showing how the investment bankers showed glowing
success for IBM buying Compaq, but when Gertner looks into the fine
print, he realised that such a transaction would wipe out 5 years of IBM
profits (roughly $50 billion) and IBM would show huge losses during that period.

When the banker was questioned the response was "Oh, investors would all
see right through this, it wouldn't matter".

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What this tells me is that Capellas had been actively looking for a
buyer. There is no specific time mentioned for this story. But it does
show that it wasn't people interested in buying Compaq, it was Compaq
hiring bankers to find anyone gullibe enough to buy it.

The timing of bank pitching Compaq to IBM would be most interesting.
Alpha had no value to HP. But would have had value to IBM. (perhaps not
the chip itself, but the engineers and the intellectual property).
Perhaps Curly didn't kill alpha because it may have been of value to
some suitors such as IBM, but when time ran out and HP became the chosen
suitor, then Curly killed Alpha and donated it to Intel.
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Reply jfmezei.spamnot4 (5184) 2/9/2005 10:30:15 PM

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