Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????

-Len Whitwer
Puget Sound Data Systems, Inc.
19501 144th Ave. NE Suite D-100
Woodinville, WA  98072
e-mail    mailto:len@psds.com
Internet: http://www.psds.com
Toll Free: (866)857-0710
Tel: (425) 488-0710
Fax: (425) 488-6414

Len Whitwer wrote:
> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
> 
> -Len Whitwer

Isn't "NAS" just short for "Network-attached storage" ??
There must be 100's of different "NAS" stuff out there...

On 29 jan, 21:18, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
>
> -Len Whitwer
> Puget Sound Data Systems, Inc.
> 19501 144th Ave. NE Suite D-100
> Woodinville, WA =A098072
> e-mail =A0 =A0mailto:l...@psds.com
> Internet:http://www.psds.com
> Toll Free: (866)857-0710
> Tel: (425) 488-0710
> Fax: (425) 488-6414

Without more information than you gave us and assuming you run an IP
stack on the Alpha, I'd guess that nfs is what you'd need.

Len Whitwer wrote:
> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????

If you have Pathworks, you could just mount the disk using Pathworks. 
You should be able to FTP to/from the NAS device with or without 
Pathworks.  I don't think you will be able to create an ODS-2 or ODS-5 
file system on it.

On Jan 29, 1:57=A0pm, H Vlems <hvl...@freenet.de> wrote:
> On 29 jan, 21:18, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
>
> > Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> > 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
>
> > -Len Whitwer
> > Puget Sound Data Systems, Inc.
> > 19501 144th Ave. NE Suite D-100
> > Woodinville, WA =A098072
> > e-mail =A0 =A0mailto:l...@psds.com
> > Internet:http://www.psds.com
> > Toll Free: (866)857-0710
> > Tel: (425) 488-0710
> > Fax: (425) 488-6414
>
> Without more information than you gave us and assuming you run an IP
> stack on the Alpha, I'd guess that nfs is what you'd need.

Yes we do have an IP Stack and the supported interfaces for the NAS
are
FTP/SMB/CIFS/AFP/NFS Network Protocols Support; Shared Storage for
Windows, Unix, Linux, MAC clients.

I was hoping that someone has already done this with OVMS.

Len Whitwer

On Jan 29, 2:18=A0pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????

What you need is either a CIFS client or an NFS client.  There is no
CIFS client available for OpenVMS 7.3 that I'm aware of.  MultiNet has
an NFS client option available - I don't know if UCX does.

The short answer, there's no really good & easy way to use an external
NAS appliance from OpenVMS 7.3.

If your NAS happens to be a NetApp filer, then you can request a PVR
from NetApp for fibre channel LUN support...

   .../Ed

On Jan 29, 2:03=A0pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Len Whitwer wrote:
> > Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> > 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
>
> If you have Pathworks, you could just mount the disk using Pathworks.
> You should be able to FTP to/from the NAS device with or without
> Pathworks. =A0I don't think you will be able to create an ODS-2 or ODS-5
> file system on it.

We are running advanced server but we still need a way to connect the
NAS to the Alpha so advanced server can map a share.

Len

Len Whitwer wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2:03 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>> Len Whitwer wrote:
>>> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
>>> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
>> If you have Pathworks, you could just mount the disk using Pathworks.
>> You should be able to FTP to/from the NAS device with or without
>> Pathworks.  I don't think you will be able to create an ODS-2 or ODS-5
>> file system on it.
> 
> We are running advanced server but we still need a way to connect the
> NAS to the Alpha so advanced server can map a share.
> 
> Len

If the NAS and the Alpha are both connected to the same Ethernet, you've 
got your connectivity.  Physical connectivity anyway!  You need some 
sort of software on the Alpha that can recognize and use the disk! 
Pathworks seems the most likely candidate but something else might do 
the job as well.

I have an NAS drive on my home network and my PC uses it without 
problems and my wife's PC could if she were so inclined. I've never 
tried with my Alpha. . . .

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> Len Whitwer wrote:
>> On Jan 29, 2:03 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Len Whitwer wrote:
>>>> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
>>>> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
>>> If you have Pathworks, you could just mount the disk using Pathworks.
>>> You should be able to FTP to/from the NAS device with or without
>>> Pathworks.  I don't think you will be able to create an ODS-2 or ODS-5
>>> file system on it.
>>
>> We are running advanced server but we still need a way to connect the
>> NAS to the Alpha so advanced server can map a share.
>>
>> Len

NSF mount the disk and "share" the mounted device ?

But on the other hand, why go through the VMS systems ?
Why not let your PC's connect the NAS directly ?

On Jan 29, 2:03=A0pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Len Whitwer wrote:
> > Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> > 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
>
> If you have Pathworks, you could just mount the disk using Pathworks.
> You should be able to FTP to/from the NAS device with or without
> Pathworks. =A0I don't think you will be able to create an ODS-2 or ODS-5
> file system on it.

Does Pathworks/Advanced Server support a NAS?

On Jan 29, 2:19=A0pm, Ed Wilts <ewi...@ewilts.org> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2:18=A0pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
>
> > Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> > 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
>
> What you need is either a CIFS client or an NFS client. =A0There is no
> CIFS client available for OpenVMS 7.3 that I'm aware of. =A0MultiNet has
> an NFS client option available - I don't know if UCX does.
>
> The short answer, there's no really good & easy way to use an external
> NAS appliance from OpenVMS 7.3.
>
> If your NAS happens to be a NetApp filer, then you can request a PVR
> from NetApp for fibre channel LUN support...
>
> =A0 =A0.../Ed

Not Netapps

On Jan 29, 3:11=A0pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Len Whitwer wrote:
> > On Jan 29, 2:03 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >> Len Whitwer wrote:
> >>> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> >>> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
> >> If you have Pathworks, you could just mount the disk using Pathworks.
> >> You should be able to FTP to/from the NAS device with or without
> >> Pathworks. =A0I don't think you will be able to create an ODS-2 or ODS=
-5
> >> file system on it.
>
> > We are running advanced server but we still need a way to connect the
> > NAS to the Alpha so advanced server can map a share.
>
> > Len
>
> If the NAS and the Alpha are both connected to the same Ethernet, you've
> got your connectivity. =A0Physical connectivity anyway! =A0You need some
> sort of software on the Alpha that can recognize and use the disk!
> Pathworks seems the most likely candidate but something else might do
> the job as well.
>
> I have an NAS drive on my home network and my PC uses it without
> problems and my wife's PC could if she were so inclined. I've never
> tried with my Alpha. . . .

Does pathworks/advanced server support NAS???

On Jan 29, 3:18=A0pm, Jan-Erik S=F6derholm <jan-erik.soderh...@telia.com>
wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> > Len Whitwer wrote:
> >> On Jan 29, 2:03 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Len Whitwer wrote:
> >>>> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> >>>> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
> >>> If you have Pathworks, you could just mount the disk using Pathworks.
> >>> You should be able to FTP to/from the NAS device with or without
> >>> Pathworks. =A0I don't think you will be able to create an ODS-2 or OD=
S-5
> >>> file system on it.
>
> >> We are running advanced server but we still need a way to connect the
> >> NAS to the Alpha so advanced server can map a share.
>
> >> Len
>
> NSF mount the disk and "share" the mounted device ?
>
> But on the other hand, why go through the VMS systems ?
> Why not let your PC's connect the NAS directly ?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Do you know if TCPIP stack on OVMS supports NFS mount? Another
guy thought Multinet has an NFS client. Open to any thoughts!!!!

Len

Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2:18�pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
>   
>> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
>> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
>>     
>
> What you need is either a CIFS client or an NFS client.  There is no
> CIFS client available for OpenVMS 7.3 that I'm aware of.  MultiNet has
> an NFS client option available - I don't know if UCX does.
>   
It does, at least the later versions...
> The short answer, there's no really good & easy way to use an external
> NAS appliance from OpenVMS 7.3.
>   
I disagree - at my last VMS job, I was tasked to connect the local VMS 
boxes to a NAS, so that we could backup VMS to the NAS, and get rid of 
tape drives.  Done in a day - if I knew more about NFS, I could have 
done it quicker (I spent most of the day teaching myself about NFS 
client on VMS).
[...]

On Jan 29, 6:56=A0pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 3:11=A0pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
>
> Does pathworks/advanced server support NAS???

No.  Pathworks & Advanced Server are SMB *servers*.  They have no
*client* functionality.

   .../Ed

Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Jan 29, 6:56 pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 29, 3:11 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
>>
>> Does pathworks/advanced server support NAS???
> 
> No.  Pathworks & Advanced Server are SMB *servers*.  They have no
> *client* functionality.
> 
>    .../Ed
> 

Actually it depends on which stack and which version... TCPIP Services 
5.x has an NFS client and server. And at one time Advanced Server had a 
client as well as server (used it many years ago) - but also don't 
remember what it was called. (smbclient??) I know that SAMBA has this 
(used it before as well...)

Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]

TCPIP$NFS_CLIENT_SHUTDOWN.COM;1
TCPIP$NFS_CLIENT_STARTUP.COM;1 TCPIP$NFS_SHUTDOWN.COM;1
TCPIP$NFS_STARTUP.COM;1        TCPIP$PCNFS_SHUTDOWN.COM;1
TCPIP$PCNFS_STARTUP.COM;1

Follow the directions in the docs for how to use NFS.

On Jan 29, 9:00=A0pm, Michael Austin <maus...@firstdbasource.com> wrote:
> Ed Wilts wrote:
> > On Jan 29, 6:56 pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 29, 3:11 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
>
> >> Does pathworks/advanced server support NAS???
>
> > No. =A0Pathworks & Advanced Server are SMB *servers*. =A0They have no
> > *client* functionality.
>
> > =A0 =A0.../Ed
>
> Actually it depends on which stack and which version... TCPIP Services
> 5.x has an NFS client and server. And at one time Advanced Server had a
> client as well as server (used it many years ago) - but also don't
> remember what it was called. (smbclient??) I know that SAMBA has this
> (used it before as well...)

smbclient exists for some versions of Samba - Linux yes, Solaris, no.
Samba doesn't exist for OpenVMS 7.3
Advanced Server, to the best of my recollection, has never provided
for an SMB client for VMS.  Please don't confuse Advanced Server with
TCP/IP Services - it does not depend on which stack or version.  No
version has provided client functionality (hence the name Advanced
*SERVER*).

Using the NFS client on VMS may possibly also give you some grief with
the NAS device.  Certainly, not all products that claim to be NAS do
NFS, and even if it does NFS, prepare yourself with some fun with UID/
GID mappings.  You may or may not (and likely not) have ACL support.
I

The original poster never said what brand of NAS or exactly what level
of functionality he wanted.  Without hacks (such as Glenn Everharts's
pseudo-disk driver) there's no way it's just going to look like
another VMS disk drive.

   .../Ed (managing VMS systems since the blue wall)

Ed Wilts <ewilts@ewilts.org> wrote:
 
> Using the NFS client on VMS may possibly also give you some grief with
> the NAS device.  Certainly, not all products that claim to be NAS do
> NFS, and even if it does NFS, prepare yourself with some fun with UID/
> GID mappings.  You may or may not (and likely not) have ACL support.

Some that don't can load freely available firmware supporting NFS.
(Especially if they run linux internally.)

-- glen

Len Whitwer wrote:
> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
> 
> -Len Whitwer
> Puget Sound Data Systems, Inc.
> 19501 144th Ave. NE Suite D-100
> Woodinville, WA  98072
> e-mail    mailto:len@psds.com
> Internet: http://www.psds.com
> Toll Free: (866)857-0710
> Tel: (425) 488-0710
> Fax: (425) 488-6414

Sigh - JF and I have stuffed around (Australian)/diligently experimented 
(North American/British/?) connecting OVMS to NFS for some time - our 
experiences vary with JF having much more success in my opinion.  In my 
case, I have has OVMS8.2 connected to and using a Windows2008 
server-based NFS for about 6 months - it took over 6 months to get it to 
work properly.......

I have recently created a "new" NAS using FreeNAS and followed all the 
instructions to set it up for NFS serving.  I can connect to it using 
Windows (2000, 2003, 2008, XP, Vista), Solaris 10, OSX, HP/UX and 
assorted Linuxen.  OVMS - no way!!!  I know OVMS NFS client works (it 
will talk to the old NFS server) but using identical parameters to the 
new one won't go.

Short answer, it probably works but seems to be a hand-crafted solution 
each time depending upon how close the NAS NFS server is to responding 
to OVMS client requests in a way that OVMS likes - and OVMS doesn't give 
you any useful hints when it doesn't like it!!

Good luck

(JF, you may have more constructive things to add than I did....)

Len Whitwer wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2:03 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>> Len Whitwer wrote:
>>> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
>>> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
>> If you have Pathworks, you could just mount the disk using Pathworks.
>> You should be able to FTP to/from the NAS device with or without
>> Pathworks.  I don't think you will be able to create an ODS-2 or ODS-5
>> file system on it.
> 
> Does Pathworks/Advanced Server support a NAS?

Don't know!  It has been more than ten years since I had, or needed, a 
Pathworks license!

In article <mailman.8.1233278805.16357.info-vax_rbnsn.com@rbnsn.com>,
	bradhamilton <bradhamilton@comcast.net> writes:
> Ed Wilts wrote:
>> On Jan 29, 2:18�pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
>>   
>>> Just bought a 4TB NAS and would like to connect up to our ES45 OVMS
>>> 7.3 in house system. Does anyone know how to do this??????
>>>     
>>
>> What you need is either a CIFS client or an NFS client.  There is no
>> CIFS client available for OpenVMS 7.3 that I'm aware of.  MultiNet has
>> an NFS client option available - I don't know if UCX does.
>>   
> It does, at least the later versions...
>> The short answer, there's no really good & easy way to use an external
>> NAS appliance from OpenVMS 7.3.
>>   
> I disagree - at my last VMS job, I was tasked to connect the local VMS 
> boxes to a NAS, so that we could backup VMS to the NAS, and get rid of 
> tape drives.  Done in a day - if I knew more about NFS, I could have 
> done it quicker (I spent most of the day teaching myself about NFS 
> client on VMS).
> [...]
 
Yes, but, speaking as one who has, in the past, used VMS NFS rather
extensively, there is a big difference between using it to backup
your system on (like a tape drive) and using it for user access from
dis-similar machines.

bill
 

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
billg999@cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   

Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Jan 29, 9:00 pm, Michael Austin <maus...@firstdbasource.com> wrote:
>> Ed Wilts wrote:
>>> On Jan 29, 6:56 pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 29, 3:11 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
>>>> Does pathworks/advanced server support NAS???
>>> No.  Pathworks & Advanced Server are SMB *servers*.  They have no
>>> *client* functionality.
>>>    .../Ed
>> Actually it depends on which stack and which version... TCPIP Services
>> 5.x has an NFS client and server. And at one time Advanced Server had a
>> client as well as server (used it many years ago) - but also don't
>> remember what it was called. (smbclient??) I know that SAMBA has this
>> (used it before as well...)
> 
> smbclient exists for some versions of Samba - Linux yes, Solaris, no.
> Samba doesn't exist for OpenVMS 7.3

not sure if you meant to put a period after 7.3, but if you did... I am 
running 7.3-2 and SAMBA and

Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SAMBA.BIN.ALPHA]
SMBCLIENT.EXE;1

and have connected/read/written data to a "windows share" and it may 
have been this utility I used rather than anything from AdvServer.  It 
WAS a long time ago (10+years)...


> Advanced Server, to the best of my recollection, has never provided
> for an SMB client for VMS.  Please don't confuse Advanced Server with
> TCP/IP Services - it does not depend on which stack or version.  No
> version has provided client functionality (hence the name Advanced
> *SERVER*).

Stack/version was in reference to NFS not smb.  TCPIP Services has NFS 
client AND  Server.

> 
> Using the NFS client on VMS may possibly also give you some grief with
> the NAS device.  Certainly, not all products that claim to be NAS do
> NFS, and even if it does NFS, prepare yourself with some fun with UID/
> GID mappings.  You may or may not (and likely not) have ACL support.
> I
> 

Yes they are a pain, but they are also a pain in *N{U,I}X.

> The original poster never said what brand of NAS or exactly what level
> of functionality he wanted.  Without hacks (such as Glenn Everharts's
> pseudo-disk driver) there's no way it's just going to look like
> another VMS disk drive.

I have connected my VMS box to the Netgear 1-4TB NAS appliance via NFS. 
Really nice.

> 
>    .../Ed (managing VMS systems since the blue wall)

Michael Austin
Field Service for DEC 84-90, Field Software Support - Databases - 90-94 
(then sold to Oracle) and a WHOLE BUNCH of stuff since.

On Jan 31, 4:23=A0pm, Michael Austin <maus...@firstdbasource.com> wrote:
> Ed Wilts wrote:
> > On Jan 29, 9:00 pm, Michael Austin <maus...@firstdbasource.com> wrote:
> >> Ed Wilts wrote:
> >>> On Jan 29, 6:56 pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Jan 29, 3:11 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
> >>>> Does pathworks/advanced server support NAS???
> >>> No. =A0Pathworks & Advanced Server are SMB *servers*. =A0They have no
> >>> *client* functionality.
> >>> =A0 =A0.../Ed
> >> Actually it depends on which stack and which version... TCPIP Services
> >> 5.x has an NFS client and server. And at one time Advanced Server had =
a
> >> client as well as server (used it many years ago) - but also don't
> >> remember what it was called. (smbclient??) I know that SAMBA has this
> >> (used it before as well...)
>
> > smbclient exists for some versions of Samba - Linux yes, Solaris, no.
> > Samba doesn't exist for OpenVMS 7.3
>
> not sure if you meant to put a period after 7.3, but if you did... I am
> running 7.3-2 and SAMBA and
>
> Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SAMBA.BIN.ALPHA]
> SMBCLIENT.EXE;1
>
> and have connected/read/written data to a "windows share" and it may
> have been this utility I used rather than anything from AdvServer. =A0It
> WAS a long time ago (10+years)...
>
> > Advanced Server, to the best of my recollection, has never provided
> > for an SMB client for VMS. =A0Please don't confuse Advanced Server with
> > TCP/IP Services - it does not depend on which stack or version. =A0No
> > version has provided client functionality (hence the name Advanced
> > *SERVER*).
>
> Stack/version was in reference to NFS not smb. =A0TCPIP Services has NFS
> client AND =A0Server.
>
>
>
> > Using the NFS client on VMS may possibly also give you some grief with
> > the NAS device. =A0Certainly, not all products that claim to be NAS do
> > NFS, and even if it does NFS, prepare yourself with some fun with UID/
> > GID mappings. =A0You may or may not (and likely not) have ACL support.
> > I
>
> Yes they are a pain, but they are also a pain in *N{U,I}X.
>
> > The original poster never said what brand of NAS or exactly what level
> > of functionality he wanted. =A0Without hacks (such as Glenn Everharts's
> > pseudo-disk driver) there's no way it's just going to look like
> > another VMS disk drive.
>
> I have connected my VMS box to the Netgear 1-4TB NAS appliance via NFS.
> Really nice.
>
>
>
> > =A0 =A0.../Ed (managing VMS systems since the blue wall)
>
> Michael Austin
> Field Service for DEC 84-90, Field Software Support - Databases - 90-94
> (then sold to Oracle) and a WHOLE BUNCH of stuff since.

If that's a VMS port of the widespread smbclient utuility, it doesn't
VMS-mount an SMB filesystem as such (Len said "we still need a way to
connect the NAS to the Alpha so advanced server can map a share.") but
it does allow ftp-style access to files on an SMB filesystem, which
might or might not be sufficient here.

I can't help wondering if the time to have asked this question might
have been *before* picking and purchasing a NAS box. It might not have
changed the outcome, but the decision would have been better informed.

On Jan 31, 8:23=A0am, Michael Austin <maus...@firstdbasource.com> wrote:
> Ed Wilts wrote:
> > On Jan 29, 9:00 pm, Michael Austin <maus...@firstdbasource.com> wrote:
> >> Ed Wilts wrote:
> >>> On Jan 29, 6:56 pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Jan 29, 3:11 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
> >>>> Does pathworks/advanced server support NAS???
> >>> No. =A0Pathworks & Advanced Server are SMB *servers*. =A0They have no
> >>> *client* functionality.
> >>> =A0 =A0.../Ed
> >> Actually it depends on which stack and which version... TCPIP Services
> >> 5.x has an NFS client and server. And at one time Advanced Server had =
a
> >> client as well as server (used it many years ago) - but also don't
> >> remember what it was called. (smbclient??) I know that SAMBA has this
> >> (used it before as well...)
>
> > smbclient exists for some versions of Samba - Linux yes, Solaris, no.
> > Samba doesn't exist for OpenVMS 7.3
>
> not sure if you meant to put a period after 7.3, but if you did... I am
> running 7.3-2 and SAMBA and
>
> Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SAMBA.BIN.ALPHA]
> SMBCLIENT.EXE;1
>
> and have connected/read/written data to a "windows share" and it may
> have been this utility I used rather than anything from AdvServer. =A0It
> WAS a long time ago (10+years)...
>
> > Advanced Server, to the best of my recollection, has never provided
> > for an SMB client for VMS. =A0Please don't confuse Advanced Server with
> > TCP/IP Services - it does not depend on which stack or version. =A0No
> > version has provided client functionality (hence the name Advanced
> > *SERVER*).
>
> Stack/version was in reference to NFS not smb. =A0TCPIP Services has NFS
> client AND =A0Server.
>
>
>
> > Using the NFS client on VMS may possibly also give you some grief with
> > the NAS device. =A0Certainly, not all products that claim to be NAS do
> > NFS, and even if it does NFS, prepare yourself with some fun with UID/
> > GID mappings. =A0You may or may not (and likely not) have ACL support.
> > I
>
> Yes they are a pain, but they are also a pain in *N{U,I}X.
>
> > The original poster never said what brand of NAS or exactly what level
> > of functionality he wanted. =A0Without hacks (such as Glenn Everharts's
> > pseudo-disk driver) there's no way it's just going to look like
> > another VMS disk drive.
>
> I have connected my VMS box to the Netgear 1-4TB NAS appliance via NFS.
> Really nice.
>
>
>
> > =A0 =A0.../Ed (managing VMS systems since the blue wall)
>
> Michael Austin
> Field Service for DEC 84-90, Field Software Support - Databases - 90-94
> (then sold to Oracle) and a WHOLE BUNCH of stuff since.- Hide quoted text=
 -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hi Ed:

This sounds like the the answer to my problem. Would you mind if I
call or e- mailed
you as to the best way to proceed??

 Thanks,

Len

-Len Whitwer
Puget Sound Data Systems, Inc.
19501 144th Ave. NE Suite D-100
Woodinville, WA  98072
e-mail    mailto:len@psds.com
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On Feb 2, 9:09=A0am, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 8:23=A0am, Michael Austin <maus...@firstdbasource.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ed Wilts wrote:
> > > On Jan 29, 9:00 pm, Michael Austin <maus...@firstdbasource.com> wrote=
:
> > >> Ed Wilts wrote:
> > >>> On Jan 29, 6:56 pm, Len Whitwer <l...@psds.com> wrote:
> > >>>> On Jan 29, 3:11 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
> > >>>> Does pathworks/advanced server support NAS???
> > >>> No. =A0Pathworks & Advanced Server are SMB *servers*. =A0They have =
no
> > >>> *client* functionality.
> > >>> =A0 =A0.../Ed
> > >> Actually it depends on which stack and which version... TCPIP Servic=
es
> > >> 5.x has an NFS client and server. And at one time Advanced Server ha=
d a
> > >> client as well as server (used it many years ago) - but also don't
> > >> remember what it was called. (smbclient??) I know that SAMBA has thi=
s
> > >> (used it before as well...)
>
> > > smbclient exists for some versions of Samba - Linux yes, Solaris, no.
> > > Samba doesn't exist for OpenVMS 7.3
>
> > not sure if you meant to put a period after 7.3, but if you did... I am
> > running 7.3-2 and SAMBA and
>
> > Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SAMBA.BIN.ALPHA]
> > SMBCLIENT.EXE;1
>
> > and have connected/read/written data to a "windows share" and it may
> > have been this utility I used rather than anything from AdvServer. =A0I=
t
> > WAS a long time ago (10+years)...
>
> > > Advanced Server, to the best of my recollection, has never provided
> > > for an SMB client for VMS. =A0Please don't confuse Advanced Server wi=
th
> > > TCP/IP Services - it does not depend on which stack or version. =A0No
> > > version has provided client functionality (hence the name Advanced
> > > *SERVER*).
>
> > Stack/version was in reference to NFS not smb. =A0TCPIP Services has NF=
S
> > client AND =A0Server.
>
> > > Using the NFS client on VMS may possibly also give you some grief wit=
h
> > > the NAS device. =A0Certainly, not all products that claim to be NAS d=
o
> > > NFS, and even if it does NFS, prepare yourself with some fun with UID=
/
> > > GID mappings. =A0You may or may not (and likely not) have ACL support=
..
> > > I
>
> > Yes they are a pain, but they are also a pain in *N{U,I}X.
>
> > > The original poster never said what brand of NAS or exactly what leve=
l
> > > of functionality he wanted. =A0Without hacks (such as Glenn Everharts=
's
> > > pseudo-disk driver) there's no way it's just going to look like
> > > another VMS disk drive.
>
> > I have connected my VMS box to the Netgear 1-4TB NAS appliance via NFS.
> > Really nice.
>
> > > =A0 =A0.../Ed (managing VMS systems since the blue wall)
>
> > Michael Austin
> > Field Service for DEC 84-90, Field Software Support - Databases - 90-94
> > (then sold to Oracle) and a WHOLE BUNCH of stuff since.- Hide quoted te=
xt -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Hi Ed:
>
> This sounds like the the answer to my problem. Would you mind if I
> call or e- mailed
> you as to the best way to proceed??
>
> =A0Thanks,
>
> Len
>
> -Len Whitwer
> Puget Sound Data Systems, Inc.
> 19501 144th Ave. NE Suite D-100
> Woodinville, WA =A098072
> e-mail =A0 =A0mailto:l...@psds.com
> Internet:http://www.psds.com
> Toll Free: (866)857-0710
> Tel: (425) 488-0710
> Fax: (425) 488-6414- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Juat talked to an old VMS guy and he thought CIFS might be the way to
go.
Has anyone ever done this??? Appears to be supported with later
versions
of OVMS.

-Len Whitwer
Puget Sound Data Systems, Inc.
19501 144th Ave. NE Suite D-100
Woodinville, WA  98072
e-mail    mailto:len@psds.com
Internet: http://www.psds.com
Toll Free: (866)857-0710
Tel: (425) 488-0710
Fax: (425) 488-6414