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>From: William Webb [mailto:al5vf03p02@sneakemail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:33 AM
>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
>Subject: Re: backing up VMS files to PC based CD writer
>
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>"Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> wrote in message 
>news:<3F9EACDA.3070507@MMaz.com>...
>> John Laird wrote:
>> 
>> >On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:14:00 -0700, "Barry Treahy, Jr." 
><Treahy@MMaz.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >  
>> >
>> >>YYYlmhYYY@cco.caltech.edu wrote:
>> >>
>> >>    
>> >>
>> >>>We have a couple of old VAXStations running VMS 5.5.  Our 8mm 
>> >>>Exabyte doesn't work after being 'repaired'.  Is it possible 
>to back up 
>> >>>files by ftp'ing them (thru a Unix machine) to a PC and 
>writing them on a 
>> >>>CD ?
>> >>>I have tried ftp'ing several files (text, .obj, .exe, and 
>.sav). It looks 
>> >>>like I can make two sets of files, one transferred in ASCII 
>and one in 
>> >>>binary, and then get back usable files (rather than trying to 
>sort files 
>> >>>by type).  
>> >>>
>> >>>      
>> >>>
>> >>What I'd do is use ZIP with the "-V" qualifier to retain the VMS file 
>> >>attributes and you can even go as far as zipping an entire tree and 
>> >>therefore retail the directory structure.  Once zipped, you 
>can then ftp 
>> >>and burn with minimal worries...
>> >>    
>> >>
>> >
>> >There's a lot to be said for creating a backup save-set if the 
>files will
>> >ultimately be restored on a VMS system, then zip that.  It's 
>easy to fix up
>> >any broken attributes on a single file, and it itself contains 
>redundancy
>> >blocks to cover possible data corruption.
>> >
>> >  
>> >
>> Since he stated the destination was a PC for burning, IMHO the ZIP 
>> solution was the most 'portable' to assure that later PC / Unix systems 
>> could read it and yet, if it did ever return to a VMS system, it too 
>> could be recovered, without corruption or loss of file attributes...
>> 
>> Barry
>
>Excellent suggestion, Barry.
>
>Two comments:
>  
>The quotes around "-V" aren't there to make the option stand out from
>the rest of the text- uou have to use them in the actual ZIP command
>or else ZIP won't save the VMS file attributes.

Isn't this the same as ZIP/VMS?  BTW, I note that ZIP.EXE is missing
in [FREEWARE50.000TOOLS.ALPHA_IMAGES]  bur is present on the 40 CD

>
>Also, if you've FTP'd a saveset and it's messed up (512/fixed,
>usually)
>there is a DCL command procedure named
>RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_FILE_ATTRIBUTES.COM on the Freeware disks that
>fixes things quite nicely:
>
>On Freeware 5, Disk 1, the file is in the [000TOOLS] directory.
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:30:44 -0800, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote:
 
>>The quotes around "-V" aren't there to make the option stand out from
>>the rest of the text- uou have to use them in the actual ZIP command
>>or else ZIP won't save the VMS file attributes.
>
>Isn't this the same as ZIP/VMS?  BTW, I note that ZIP.EXE is missing
>in [FREEWARE50.000TOOLS.ALPHA_IMAGES]  bur is present on the 40 CD

Yes, as long as you are using the "ZIP CLI" version of the executable. Hunter
Goatley packages this one. The "-V" will work with either the "UNIX-style" of
the "ZIP CLI" image.
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In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIMEJKIFAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:
:Isn't this the same as ZIP/VMS?  BTW, I note that ZIP.EXE is missing
:in [FREEWARE50.000TOOLS.ALPHA_IMAGES]  bur is present on the 40 CD

  Hmmm.  It's named ZIP.AXP_EXE, IIRC.  Looks like a bug lurks within the
  DEFINE_TOOLS.COM procedure on that version of the Freeware, too.  Rats.
  (I'll queue this particular trivia for when I package Freeware V7.0, and
  assuming I didn't already catch this error for Freeware V6.0.)


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