From: contracer11@gmail.com

> > > >    As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version. 
> > > > [...]
> >    Still true.

   Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?

> In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
> VAX to Outlook Express.

   In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
wouldn't seeking help here.

   I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express]. 
Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

   Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
   382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
   Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547

Steven M. Schweda wrote:
> From: contracer11@gmail.com
> 
>>>>>    As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version. 
>>>>> [...]
>>>    Still true.
> 
>    Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
> 
>> In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
>> VAX to Outlook Express.
> 
>    In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
> possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
> wouldn't seeking help here.
> 
>    I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express]. 
> Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
> your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
> menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
>    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
>    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547

And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.

tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?

$ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version

sol gongola wrote:
> Steven M. Schweda wrote:
> > From: contracer11@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>    As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
> >>>>> [...]
> >>>    Still true.
> >
> >    Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
> >
> >> In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
> >> VAX to Outlook Express.
> >
> >    In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
> > possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
> > wouldn't seeking help here.
> >
> >    I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express].
> > Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
> > your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
> > menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
> >    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
> >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
>
> And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.
>
> tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
> What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
>
> $ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version

VAX001>> ucx sh vers


  DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3


  on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4

contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> sol gongola wrote:
> > Steven M. Schweda wrote:
> > > From: contracer11@gmail.com
> > >
> > >>>>>    As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
> > >>>>> [...]
> > >>>    Still true.
> > >
> > >    Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
> > >
> > >> In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
> > >> VAX to Outlook Express.
> > >
> > >    In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
> > > possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
> > > wouldn't seeking help here.
> > >
> > >    I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express].
> > > Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
> > > your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
> > > menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
> > >    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
> > >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
> >
> > And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.
> >
> > tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
> > What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
> >
> > $ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version
> 
> VAX001>> ucx sh vers
> 
>   DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
> 
>   on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4

V3.3???!!! Yikes!!!

Then again, on V5.5.2H4, the choices would be a bit limited, wouldn't
they?

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contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> sol gongola wrote:
>> Steven M. Schweda wrote:
>>> From: contracer11@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>    As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>    Still true.
>>>    Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
>>>
>>>> In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
>>>> VAX to Outlook Express.
>>>    In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
>>> possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
>>> wouldn't seeking help here.
>>>
>>>    I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express].
>>> Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
>>> your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
>>> menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
>>>    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
>>>    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
>> And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.
>>
>> tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
>> What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
>>
>> $ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version
> 
> VAX001>> ucx sh vers
> 
> 
>   DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
> 
> 
>   on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
> 


UCX didn't include pop or imap way back then.

You can get the Indiana University iupop3 package from a vms freeware cd
or search for it on the internet.
	It may be the one actually incorporated into vms tcpip.

You can get the University of Washington pine package adapted for vms.
It includes both pop and imap services.
	http://server11.infn.it/pub/mailing/OpenVMS/pinevms.html
or	http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html
It may also be on a vms freeware cd,

contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> sol gongola wrote:
>> Steven M. Schweda wrote:
>>> From: contracer11@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>    As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>    Still true.
>>>    Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
>>>
>>>> In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
>>>> VAX to Outlook Express.
>>>    In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
>>> possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
>>> wouldn't seeking help here.
>>>
>>>    I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express].
>>> Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
>>> your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
>>> menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
>>>    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
>>>    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
>> And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.
>>
>> tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
>> What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
>>
>> $ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version
> 
> VAX001>> ucx sh vers
> 
> 
>   DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
> 
> 
>   on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
> 


UCX didn't include pop or imap way back then.

You can get the Indiana University iupop3 package from a vms freeware cd
or search for it on the internet.
	It may be the one actually incorporated into vms tcpip.

You can get the University of Washington pine package adapted for vms.
It includes both pop and imap services.
	http://server11.infn.it/pub/mailing/OpenVMS/pinevms.html
or	http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html
It may also be on a vms freeware cd.
When I used it, pine's imap was an old version incompatible with newer
versions of imap but pop worked well.

sol gongola wrote:
> contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> > sol gongola wrote:
> >> Steven M. Schweda wrote:
> >>> From: contracer11@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>>    As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>    Still true.
> >>>    Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
> >>>
> >>>> In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
> >>>> VAX to Outlook Express.
> >>>    In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
> >>> possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
> >>> wouldn't seeking help here.
> >>>
> >>>    I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express].
> >>> Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
> >>> your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
> >>> menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
> >>>    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
> >>>    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
> >> And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.
> >>
> >> tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
> >> What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
> >>
> >> $ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version
> >
> > VAX001>> ucx sh vers
> >
> >
> >   DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
> >
> >
> >   on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
> >
>
>
> UCX didn't include pop or imap way back then.
>
> You can get the Indiana University iupop3 package from a vms freeware cd
> or search for it on the internet.
> 	It may be the one actually incorporated into vms tcpip.
>
> You can get the University of Washington pine package adapted for vms.
> It includes both pop and imap services.
> 	http://server11.infn.it/pub/mailing/OpenVMS/pinevms.html
> or	http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html
> It may also be on a vms freeware cd.
> When I used it, pine's imap was an old version incompatible with newer
> versions of imap but pop worked well.

In my job we have a e-mail server (Compaq W2K3 server), and if I set
route with this e-mail address could I send e-mails from vms to w2k3
server ?

contracer11@gmail.com wrote:

> In my job we have a e-mail server (Compaq W2K3 server), and if I set
> route with this e-mail address could I send e-mails from vms to w2k3
> server ?

   You can use a pop or imap client for OpenVMS, and you can then send 
email via whatever SMTP server you want.  This can be configured to 
function exactly the same way as your typical Microsoft Windows client 
operates its mail.  As an SMTP client.

   OpenVMS provides an SMTP server (with POP and IMAP servers) via 
TCP/IP Services, and the integrated SMTP client -- the MAIL SMTP% 
transport image -- provided in the base system expects a local SMTP 
server.

   Unfortunately for those ISPs and organizations that use SMTP AUTH 
(ESMTP) or other such requirements, you cannot use the provided OpenVMS 
system's SMTP% MAIL client except to connect to the local SMTP server, 
and you cannot connect the SMTP server via a port other than the 
expected port 25.  This means that the MAIL utility cannot be used for 
remote access to a remote SMTP server, save via a local SMTP mail server.

   You can, however, use the Mozilla mail client, or any of various 
other SMTP mail clients that have been ported to OpenVMS (and that have 
been mentioned in this and other recent threads), to connect to a remote 
SMTP server, and submit and read your mail that way; to operate without 
a local SMTP mail server.  This is how the Microsoft Windows clients 
operate with SMTP servers.  (This ignoring the Microsoft-provided mail 
clients can also operate via the Microsoft Exchange server protocols.)

   Whether or not your company or your ISP allows remote SMTP/POP/IMAP 
access into its SMTP server (and how that is configured) is another 
matter, and not one that anyone here likely knows details about.  (Nor 
whether or not you could access the SMTP server via whatever network 
connection you have, as companies and ISPs can block various ports. 
Many ISPs tend not to allow outbound port 25 connections, as it's a 
common path for spammers, botnets and infections.  Outbound port 25 
connections are thus quite often only allowed via the ISP's own SMTP 
server(s).)

contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> sol gongola wrote:
>> contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
>>> sol gongola wrote:
>>>> Steven M. Schweda wrote:
>>>>> From: contracer11@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>    Still true.
>>>>>    Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
>>>>>
>>>>>> In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
>>>>>> VAX to Outlook Express.
>>>>>    In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
>>>>> possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
>>>>> wouldn't seeking help here.
>>>>>
>>>>>    I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express].
>>>>> Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
>>>>> your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
>>>>> menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
>>>>>    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
>>>>>    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
>>>> And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.
>>>>
>>>> tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
>>>> What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
>>>>
>>>> $ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version
>>> VAX001>> ucx sh vers
>>>
>>>
>>>   DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
>>>
>>>
>>>   on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
>>>
>>
>> UCX didn't include pop or imap way back then.
>>
>> You can get the Indiana University iupop3 package from a vms freeware cd
>> or search for it on the internet.
>> 	It may be the one actually incorporated into vms tcpip.
>>
>> You can get the University of Washington pine package adapted for vms.
>> It includes both pop and imap services.
>> 	http://server11.infn.it/pub/mailing/OpenVMS/pinevms.html
>> or	http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html
>> It may also be on a vms freeware cd.
>> When I used it, pine's imap was an old version incompatible with newer
>> versions of imap but pop worked well.
> 
> In my job we have a e-mail server (Compaq W2K3 server), and if I set
> route with this e-mail address could I send e-mails from vms to w2k3
> server ?
> 

It just occurred to me that ucx v3.3 may be too old to even have smtp in it.
See if @sys$system:ucx$config have an option to set up smtp (under client services).
If it doesn't, you may have get smtp elsewhere.
You can get the freeware MX 4.2, probably from the VMS freeware cd.
I think pine also comes with the smtp software so the whole pine package may give
you everything you need including a menu based email interface that supports
sending/receiving attachments.

Once configured you should be able to send emails to the windows box.

sol gongola wrote:
> contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> > sol gongola wrote:
> >> contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> sol gongola wrote:
> >>>> Steven M. Schweda wrote:
> >>>>> From: contracer11@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
> >>>>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>>    Still true.
> >>>>>    Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
> >>>>>> VAX to Outlook Express.
> >>>>>    In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
> >>>>> possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
> >>>>> wouldn't seeking help here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express].
> >>>>> Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
> >>>>> your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
> >>>>> menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
> >>>>>    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
> >>>>>    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
> >>>> And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.
> >>>>
> >>>> tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
> >>>> What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
> >>>>
> >>>> $ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version
> >>> VAX001>> ucx sh vers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
> >>>
> >>
> >> UCX didn't include pop or imap way back then.
> >>
> >> You can get the Indiana University iupop3 package from a vms freeware cd
> >> or search for it on the internet.
> >> 	It may be the one actually incorporated into vms tcpip.
> >>
> >> You can get the University of Washington pine package adapted for vms.
> >> It includes both pop and imap services.
> >> 	http://server11.infn.it/pub/mailing/OpenVMS/pinevms.html
> >> or	http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html
> >> It may also be on a vms freeware cd.
> >> When I used it, pine's imap was an old version incompatible with newer
> >> versions of imap but pop worked well.
> >
> > In my job we have a e-mail server (Compaq W2K3 server), and if I set
> > route with this e-mail address could I send e-mails from vms to w2k3
> > server ?
> >
>
> It just occurred to me that ucx v3.3 may be too old to even have smtp in it.
> See if @sys$system:ucx$config have an option to set up smtp (under client services).
> If it doesn't, you may have get smtp elsewhere.
> You can get the freeware MX 4.2, probably from the VMS freeware cd.
> I think pine also comes with the smtp software so the whole pine package may give
> you everything you need including a menu based email interface that supports
> sending/receiving attachments.
>
> Once configured you should be able to send emails to the windows box.


VAX001 >> ucx sh serv smtp/fu

Service: SMTP
                           State:     Enabled
Port:               25     Protocol:  TCP             Address:  0.0.0.0
Inactivity:          5     User_name: UCX_SMTP        Process:
UCX$SMTP
Limit:              10     Active:      0             Peak:       0

File:         SYS$SPECIFIC:[UCX_SMTP]UCX$SMTP_RECV_STARTUP.COM
Flags:        Listen

Socket Opts:  Rcheck Scheck
 Receive:            0     Send:               0

Log Opts:     Acpt Actv Dactv Conn Error Exit Logi Logo Mdfy Rjct TimO
Addr
 File:        SYS$SPECIFIC:[UCX_SMTP]UCX$SMTP_RECV_STARTUP.LOG

Security
 Reject msg:  not defined
 Accept host: 0.0.0.0
 Accept netw: 0.0.0.0

contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> sol gongola wrote:
> > contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> > > sol gongola wrote:
> > >> contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> sol gongola wrote:
> > >>>> Steven M. Schweda wrote:
> > >>>>> From: contracer11@gmail.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>    As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
> > >>>>>>>>> [...]
> > >>>>>>>    Still true.
> > >>>>>    Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> In reality I don=3DB4t need access Internet, only send e-mails f=
rom
> > >>>>>> VAX to Outlook Express.
> > >>>>>    In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will=
 make
> > >>>>> possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doin=
g, you
> > >>>>> wouldn't seeking help here.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>    I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Ex=
press].
> > >>>>> Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP serv=
er.  If
> > >>>>> your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server comp=
onents"
> > >>>>> menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
> > >>>>>    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
> > >>>>>    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
> > >>>> And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into=
 the box.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions =
old.
> > >>>> What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> $ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version
> > >>> VAX001>> ucx sh vers
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>   DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>   on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> UCX didn't include pop or imap way back then.
> > >>
> > >> You can get the Indiana University iupop3 package from a vms freewar=
e cd
> > >> or search for it on the internet.
> > >> 	It may be the one actually incorporated into vms tcpip.
> > >>
> > >> You can get the University of Washington pine package adapted for vm=
s=2E
> > >> It includes both pop and imap services.
> > >> 	http://server11.infn.it/pub/mailing/OpenVMS/pinevms.html
> > >> or	http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html
> > >> It may also be on a vms freeware cd.
> > >> When I used it, pine's imap was an old version incompatible with new=
er
> > >> versions of imap but pop worked well.
> > >
> > > In my job we have a e-mail server (Compaq W2K3 server), and if I set
> > > route with this e-mail address could I send e-mails from vms to w2k3
> > > server ?
> > >
> >
> > It just occurred to me that ucx v3.3 may be too old to even have smtp i=
n it.
> > See if @sys$system:ucx$config have an option to set up smtp (under clie=
nt services).
> > If it doesn't, you may have get smtp elsewhere.
> > You can get the freeware MX 4.2, probably from the VMS freeware cd.
> > I think pine also comes with the smtp software so the whole pine packag=
e may give
> > you everything you need including a menu based email interface that sup=
ports
> > sending/receiving attachments.
> >
> > Once configured you should be able to send emails to the windows box.
>
>
> VAX001 >> ucx sh serv smtp/fu
>
> Service: SMTP
>                            State:     Enabled
> Port:               25     Protocol:  TCP             Address:  0.0.0.0
> Inactivity:          5     User_name: UCX_SMTP        Process:
> UCX$SMTP
> Limit:              10     Active:      0             Peak:       0
>
> File:         SYS$SPECIFIC:[UCX_SMTP]UCX$SMTP_RECV_STARTUP.COM
> Flags:        Listen
>
> Socket Opts:  Rcheck Scheck
>  Receive:            0     Send:               0
>
> Log Opts:     Acpt Actv Dactv Conn Error Exit Logi Logo Mdfy Rjct TimO
> Addr
>  File:        SYS$SPECIFIC:[UCX_SMTP]UCX$SMTP_RECV_STARTUP.LOG
>
> Security
>  Reject msg:  not defined
>  Accept host: 0.0.0.0
>  Accept netw: 0.0.0.0


Could you show me a practical example ?
I=B4m completely lost with alternate gateway, general gateway,
substitute domain, zone...

contracer11@gmail.com wrote:

> Could you show me a practical example ?
> I�m completely lost with alternate gateway, general gateway,
> substitute domain, zone...

   The gateways are where the network traffic goes next, when it doesn't have a 
path to the particular target host.  Domains and zones are part of the 
configuration of host names and routing.

   There are multiple manuals on the topic of this particular software product, 
ranging from the initial configuration on up through specific functions and 
purposes:

   <http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc/>

   I also have to infer that you're not at all familiar with core IP and SMTP 
networking concepts and with the associated terminology (and we were most 
certainly all in that knowledge state once), something which would then lead me 
to suggest any of the various available books on the topic.   (Having just 
looked at it, and unfortunately, I'd skip the introductory manual in the TCP/IP 
Services documentation.)  Rather, I'd look for IP networking coursework on the 
net, or a book at your local technical bookshop, and at the following documentation:

   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol>
   <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/83final/6526/6526pro_042.html#smtp_chap>

   There are a variety of TCP/IP courses available from HP, as well as from 
other various other training vendors.  (Whether books or courses are better for 
you depends on how you best learn.)

   Alternatively, I'd encourage you to get some more formal assistance here, as 
it's comparatively easy to get yourself into deep (and sometimes quite weird) 
trouble with IP configurations.  (Been there, and made various of the mistakes 
myself, etc.  I've certainly not all the mistakes, however, but I expect to add 
to my tally.  But if I was in your situation and if this situation is a crunch 
situation for your employer, I'd tend to ask for more formal help.)

contracer11@gmail.com wrote:

> contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>>sol gongola wrote:
>>
>>>contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>sol gongola wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>sol gongola wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Steven M. Schweda wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>From: contracer11@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>[...]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Still true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
>>>>>>>>>VAX to Outlook Express.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
>>>>>>>>possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
>>>>>>>>wouldn't seeking help here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express].
>>>>>>>>Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
>>>>>>>>your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
>>>>>>>>menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
>>>>>>>>   382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
>>>>>>>>   Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
>>>>>>>What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>$ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version
>>>>>>
>>>>>>VAX001>> ucx sh vers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>UCX didn't include pop or imap way back then.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can get the Indiana University iupop3 package from a vms freeware cd
>>>>>or search for it on the internet.
>>>>>	It may be the one actually incorporated into vms tcpip.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can get the University of Washington pine package adapted for vms.
>>>>>It includes both pop and imap services.
>>>>>	http://server11.infn.it/pub/mailing/OpenVMS/pinevms.html
>>>>>or	http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html
>>>>>It may also be on a vms freeware cd.
>>>>>When I used it, pine's imap was an old version incompatible with newer
>>>>>versions of imap but pop worked well.
>>>>
>>>>In my job we have a e-mail server (Compaq W2K3 server), and if I set
>>>>route with this e-mail address could I send e-mails from vms to w2k3
>>>>server ?
>>>>
>>>
>>>It just occurred to me that ucx v3.3 may be too old to even have smtp in it.

SMTP was definitely present in UCX V3.3!  It didn't work worth a damn 
until you installed ECO 14 and even then it didn't work very well. 
Karol Zielonko and I spent a great deal of time debugging it on a VAX 
8250 which supported some 2,000 students and faculty at the Philadelphia 
College of Textiles and Science (now Philadelphia University) I started 
there in August of 1994 with VMS V5.4 and UCX 2.0E (2.7E???).  I found 
the system clogged with undelivered and undeliverable mail.  Upgrades to 
UCX 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3 along with an upgrade to VMS V5.5-2  It still 
didn't work.  Then came the ECOs; all fourteen of them.  It sort of 
worked; if we had been handling mail for 20 people instead of 2000 the 
problems might not have been noticed for a while.  As it was, we 
stressed the software to the breaking point and beyond.
<snip>

If you really want SMTP, you would be far better off with UCX 4.0 or 
later though I don't recall if you could run 4.0 on VMS V5.5-2.  There 
were a bunch of ECOs for 4.0 as well but Karol had already fixed the 
worst of it.

I think I learned more, in less time, on that job than any before or 
since!!  I also got a DNS server up and running on that machine.  That 
didn't work quite the way it was supposed to either. . . .  Certainly it 
didn't work the way the documentation, such as it was, said it should.
With the UCX docs, RFC 1032, 1033, 1034, & 1035 plus "DNS and Bind" by 
Pual Albitz and Cricket Liu, and plenty of help from the guys in 
Colorado, I got that working too.

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >>sol gongola wrote:
> >>
> >>>contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>sol gongola wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>sol gongola wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Steven M. Schweda wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>From: contracer11@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>[...]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   Still true.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
> >>>>>>>>>VAX to Outlook Express.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
> >>>>>>>>possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
> >>>>>>>>wouldn't seeking help here.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express].
> >>>>>>>>Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
> >>>>>>>>your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
> >>>>>>>>menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
> >>>>>>>>   382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
> >>>>>>>>   Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
> >>>>>>>What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>$ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>VAX001>> ucx sh vers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>UCX didn't include pop or imap way back then.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>You can get the Indiana University iupop3 package from a vms freeware cd
> >>>>>or search for it on the internet.
> >>>>>	It may be the one actually incorporated into vms tcpip.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>You can get the University of Washington pine package adapted for vms.
> >>>>>It includes both pop and imap services.
> >>>>>	http://server11.infn.it/pub/mailing/OpenVMS/pinevms.html
> >>>>>or	http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html
> >>>>>It may also be on a vms freeware cd.
> >>>>>When I used it, pine's imap was an old version incompatible with newer
> >>>>>versions of imap but pop worked well.
> >>>>
> >>>>In my job we have a e-mail server (Compaq W2K3 server), and if I set
> >>>>route with this e-mail address could I send e-mails from vms to w2k3
> >>>>server ?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>It just occurred to me that ucx v3.3 may be too old to even have smtp in it.
>
> SMTP was definitely present in UCX V3.3!  It didn't work worth a damn
> until you installed ECO 14 and even then it didn't work very well.
> Karol Zielonko and I spent a great deal of time debugging it on a VAX
> 8250 which supported some 2,000 students and faculty at the Philadelphia
> College of Textiles and Science (now Philadelphia University) I started
> there in August of 1994 with VMS V5.4 and UCX 2.0E (2.7E???).  I found
> the system clogged with undelivered and undeliverable mail.  Upgrades to
> UCX 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3 along with an upgrade to VMS V5.5-2  It still
> didn't work.  Then came the ECOs; all fourteen of them.  It sort of
> worked; if we had been handling mail for 20 people instead of 2000 the
> problems might not have been noticed for a while.  As it was, we
> stressed the software to the breaking point and beyond.
> <snip>
>
> If you really want SMTP, you would be far better off with UCX 4.0 or
> later though I don't recall if you could run 4.0 on VMS V5.5-2.  There
> were a bunch of ECOs for 4.0 as well but Karol had already fixed the
> worst of it.
>
> I think I learned more, in less time, on that job than any before or
> since!!  I also got a DNS server up and running on that machine.  That
> didn't work quite the way it was supposed to either. . . .  Certainly it
> didn't work the way the documentation, such as it was, said it should.
> With the UCX docs, RFC 1032, 1033, 1034, & 1035 plus "DNS and Bind" by
> Pual Albitz and Cricket Liu, and plenty of help from the guys in
> Colorado, I got that working too.

If I install MX042 form MadGoat, will I able to send internet e-mails ?

contracer11@gmail.com wrote:

> If I install MX042 form MadGoat, will I able to send internet e-mails ?

   I'd infer you don't want something like this mail exchange tool (MX), and 
that you'd prefer a simpler solution.

   I'd get one of the many available mail clients, and I'd use it.  PINE comes 
to mind, as does the mail client within the Mozilla web browser.  Aim the mail 
client at your ISP, with the configuration attributes as described by the ISP, 
using basically the same sequence as described for Windows.  (This is how the 
Windows clients work, obviously.)

   Or I'd seriously getting somebody to stop by and configure the IP environment 
for me, or I'd simply flail around and try it, or I'd get a search engine or two 
and and a book or two and read up on the target subject -- and then flail around 
and try it.

contracer11@gmail.com wrote:

> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> 
>>contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>sol gongola wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>sol gongola wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>sol gongola wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Steven M. Schweda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>From: contracer11@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  As usual, it would help to know the VMS and/or UCX version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Still true.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Still true.  "UCX SHOW VERSION"?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>In reality I don=B4t need access Internet, only send e-mails from
>>>>>>>>>>>VAX to Outlook Express.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  In reality, you ask for what you want, not what you think will make
>>>>>>>>>>possible what you want.  Remember, if you knew what you were doing, you
>>>>>>>>>>wouldn't seeking help here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I believe that one doesn't send e-mail messages to Outlook [Express].
>>>>>>>>>>Outlook [Express] fetches e-mail messages from a POP or IMAP server.  If
>>>>>>>>>>your UCX version has any of these, you might try the "Server components"
>>>>>>>>>>menu.  Mine has both POP and IMAP.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
>>>>>>>>>>  382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
>>>>>>>>>>  Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And with vms mail running, you wouldn't need smtp to get mail into the box.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>tcpip imap is very recent on vms, even pop is only a few versions old.
>>>>>>>>>What version of tcpip/ucx are we talking about?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>$ucx sho version -or- $tcpip sho version
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>VAX001>> ucx sh vers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V3.3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on a VAX 4000-100 running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>UCX didn't include pop or imap way back then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You can get the Indiana University iupop3 package from a vms freeware cd
>>>>>>>or search for it on the internet.
>>>>>>>	It may be the one actually incorporated into vms tcpip.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You can get the University of Washington pine package adapted for vms.
>>>>>>>It includes both pop and imap services.
>>>>>>>	http://server11.infn.it/pub/mailing/OpenVMS/pinevms.html
>>>>>>>or	http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html
>>>>>>>It may also be on a vms freeware cd.
>>>>>>>When I used it, pine's imap was an old version incompatible with newer
>>>>>>>versions of imap but pop worked well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In my job we have a e-mail server (Compaq W2K3 server), and if I set
>>>>>>route with this e-mail address could I send e-mails from vms to w2k3
>>>>>>server ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It just occurred to me that ucx v3.3 may be too old to even have smtp in it.
>>
>>SMTP was definitely present in UCX V3.3!  It didn't work worth a damn
>>until you installed ECO 14 and even then it didn't work very well.
>>Karol Zielonko and I spent a great deal of time debugging it on a VAX
>>8250 which supported some 2,000 students and faculty at the Philadelphia
>>College of Textiles and Science (now Philadelphia University) I started
>>there in August of 1994 with VMS V5.4 and UCX 2.0E (2.7E???).  I found
>>the system clogged with undelivered and undeliverable mail.  Upgrades to
>>UCX 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3 along with an upgrade to VMS V5.5-2  It still
>>didn't work.  Then came the ECOs; all fourteen of them.  It sort of
>>worked; if we had been handling mail for 20 people instead of 2000 the
>>problems might not have been noticed for a while.  As it was, we
>>stressed the software to the breaking point and beyond.
>><snip>
>>
>>If you really want SMTP, you would be far better off with UCX 4.0 or
>>later though I don't recall if you could run 4.0 on VMS V5.5-2.  There
>>were a bunch of ECOs for 4.0 as well but Karol had already fixed the
>>worst of it.
>>
>>I think I learned more, in less time, on that job than any before or
>>since!!  I also got a DNS server up and running on that machine.  That
>>didn't work quite the way it was supposed to either. . . .  Certainly it
>>didn't work the way the documentation, such as it was, said it should.
>>With the UCX docs, RFC 1032, 1033, 1034, & 1035 plus "DNS and Bind" by
>>Pual Albitz and Cricket Liu, and plenty of help from the guys in
>>Colorado, I got that working too.
> 
> 
> If I install MX042 form MadGoat, will I able to send internet e-mails ?
> 

I don't recall ever having a system with MX installed.  UCX will get the 
  job done, more or less, especially if you run V3.3 ECO-14 or V4.0 
ECO-highest available (if they ARE still available) or higher.

A lot of the problems I had with V3.3, as described above, would not 
have been noticeable on a less heavily loaded system.  It was mostly 
having 100 times a "normal" number of users on the system that exposed 
every conceivable weakness in the code.

Hoff Hoffman wrote:
> contracer11@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> If I install MX042 form MadGoat, will I able to send internet e-mails ?
> 
>   I'd infer you don't want something like this mail exchange tool (MX), 
> and that you'd prefer a simpler solution.
> 
>   I'd get one of the many available mail clients, and I'd use it.  PINE 
> comes to mind, as does the mail client within the Mozilla web browser.  
> Aim the mail client at your ISP, with the configuration attributes as 
> described by the ISP, using basically the same sequence as described for 
> Windows.  (This is how the Windows clients work, obviously.)
> 
>   Or I'd seriously getting somebody to stop by and configure the IP 
> environment for me, or I'd simply flail around and try it, or I'd get a 
> search engine or two and and a book or two and read up on the target 
> subject -- and then flail around and try it.
> 

I've used MX042 before we upgraded to ucx with smtp. It work
very well. I am not sure what is to be gained by MX042 when
you already have smtp available with your version of UCX.

I used pine before UCX had pop available just for the pop part.
I still use pine for the character based menu interface.

As for Mozilla. I don't recall the OP saying they had a VMS
workstation. I don't think there is a non graphic (command
line) way to use mozilla for email. It would be nice if I
wrong wrong.

I highly recommend the read and flay part. And educated user
is the best kind.

sol gongola wrote:

> I highly recommend the read and flay part. And educated user
> is the best kind.

   Make no mistakes :-) here, as we were all ignorant once (and that's 
"ignorant" as differentiated from "stupid"), and we either book-learned, or we 
played and tested and yes, we crashed-and-burned, or we attended class(es), or 
some combination of these.

   And if you are in a situation where you can't afford to make any mistakes -- 
and we can and have all made them -- then get somebody in (consultant, 
contractor, vendor, service bureau, etc) that can either provide the necessary 
configuration, or that has enough insurance to cover any mistakes made, or both. 
  Or get yourself a target-practice crash-and-burn environment, and make your 
mistakes there.  Or both.

   Go try it.  Go play.  Go make mistakes.  Seriously.  (But try to avoid same, 
and definitely try not to make mistakes on any local "production" nodes.)

	--

   And no, I don't think that MX is what you want here.  And I'd be seriously 
tempted to leave any old box alone (to quietly allow its software to rust in 
peace), and to route any mail via DECnet to a newer node.  (You can route IP 
mail via DECnet, for instance, by specifying a path to what amounts to a 
DECnet-IP gateway host.)  Or I'd use a minimal client for mail, and a remote 
POP/IMAP/SMTP server.

Hoff Hoffman wrote:
> sol gongola wrote:
>
> > I highly recommend the read and flay part. And educated user
> > is the best kind.
>
>    Make no mistakes :-) here, as we were all ignorant once (and that's
> "ignorant" as differentiated from "stupid"), and we either book-learned, =
or we
> played and tested and yes, we crashed-and-burned, or we attended class(es=
), or
> some combination of these.
>
>    And if you are in a situation where you can't afford to make any mista=
kes --
> and we can and have all made them -- then get somebody in (consultant,
> contractor, vendor, service bureau, etc) that can either provide the nece=
ssary
> configuration, or that has enough insurance to cover any mistakes made, o=
r both.
>   Or get yourself a target-practice crash-and-burn environment, and make =
your
> mistakes there.  Or both.
>
>    Go try it.  Go play.  Go make mistakes.  Seriously.  (But try to avoid=
 same,
> and definitely try not to make mistakes on any local "production" nodes.)
>
> 	--
>
>    And no, I don't think that MX is what you want here.  And I'd be serio=
usly
> tempted to leave any old box alone (to quietly allow its software to rust=
 in
> peace), and to route any mail via DECnet to a newer node.  (You can route=
 IP
> mail via DECnet, for instance, by specifying a path to what amounts to a
> DECnet-IP gateway host.)  Or I'd use a minimal client for mail, and a rem=
ote
> POP/IMAP/SMTP server.

Reading this post:


http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_thread/thread/de5900a5826=
a4b75/6ee0ae804c24d20f?lnk=3Dgst&q=3Dmail+kevin+lai&rnum=3D4#6ee0ae804c24d2=
0f


I found an answer to my question and now I can send vms mails to my
exchange server:






VAX001 =BB ucx sh config smtp

SMTP Configuration

Options
Initial interval:   0 00:30:00.00       Address_max:    16
NOEIGHT_BIT
Retry interval:     0 01:00:00.00       Hop_count_max:  16
NORELAY
Maximum interval:   3 00:00:00.00
HEADERS

Timeout             Initial       Mail    Receipt       Data  Terminate
  Send:                   5          5          5          3         10
  Receive:                5

Alternate gateway:  EXCHANGE.U L T R A . C O M . B R
General gateway:    not defined

Substitute domain:  not defined
Zone:               VAX001.U L T R A . C O M . B R

Postmaster:         UCX_SMTP
Log file:           SYS$SPECIFIC:[UCX_SMTP]UCX$SMTP_LOGFILE.LOG

Generic queue       Queues   Participating nodes
                    =20
UCX$SMTP_VAX001_00     1     VAX001

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:39:25 -0700, Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER  
<peter@langstoeger.at> wrote:

> Yup. We ran MX for some years for a whole (3k heads) company (on 1  
> VMScluster)
> MX V5 introduced AntiSPAM (nowadays I wouldn't run anything w/o AntiSPAM)
> so MX V4 freeware is a little bit outdated (and I think V5 would run on
> the old VMS version too) but is surely way better than the UCX/TCPIP SMTP
> package (with TCPIP V5.4 it gets usable, but still not "good").
> OTOH MX V5 is not freeware (IIRC, I paid $499)

You must have gotten a discount, I paid the full $500 :-)

-- 
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

In article <1156207550.108722.81860@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, contracer11@gmail.com writes:
>If I install MX042 form MadGoat, will I able to send internet e-mails ?

Yup. We ran MX for some years for a whole (3k heads) company (on 1 VMScluster)
MX V5 introduced AntiSPAM (nowadays I wouldn't run anything w/o AntiSPAM)
so MX V4 freeware is a little bit outdated (and I think V5 would run on
the old VMS version too) but is surely way better than the UCX/TCPIP SMTP
package (with TCPIP V5.4 it gets usable, but still not "good").
OTOH MX V5 is not freeware (IIRC, I paid $499)

just my 0.02

-- 
Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER
Network and OpenVMS system specialist
E-mail  peter@langstoeger.at
A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist