Redirecting SMTP

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    Our Spam blocker Guy is trying to restrict outgoing SMTP traffic to
the internet for security reasons.
    I use it quite a bit for internet paging direct from DCL scripts.
    The spam guy wants me to redirect my SMTP stuff through a local
server SMTP.Bannerhealth.com.    I have absolutely no idea how to do
this, or even if it can be done,

.....but I know someone out there knows!!.


    All suggestions (except rude and lewd) gratefully accepted.

Dave Baxter.

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Reply dave.baxter (98) 6/2/2005 10:39:42 PM

In article <1117751982.312959.183550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com writes:
>    Our Spam blocker Guy is trying to restrict outgoing SMTP traffic to
>the internet for security reasons.
>    I use it quite a bit for internet paging direct from DCL scripts.
>    The spam guy wants me to redirect my SMTP stuff through a local
>server SMTP.Bannerhealth.com.    I have absolutely no idea how to do
>this, or even if it can be done,
>
>....but I know someone out there knows!!.
>
>
>    All suggestions (except rude and lewd) gratefully accepted.

I suggest you tell us what TCP/IP package you're using, and whether (for
example) PMDF is involved.  Then we can tell you how to reroute your outbound
SMTP mail.

(You might also be able to persuade your spamblocker guy that it's pretty
unlikely your VMS systems will become part of a virus-compromised zombie
network; you might further be able to persuade him that your systems won't
be used for inappropriate relaying (perhaps by configuring the systems to 
disallow relaying).

-- Alan


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Reply winston (523) 6/2/2005 10:58:08 PM


dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com wrote:
>     The spam guy wants me to redirect my SMTP stuff through a local
> server SMTP.Bannerhealth.com.   


>     All suggestions (except rude and lewd) gratefully accepted.


Lewd and rude suggestion:

Look at the documentation for HELP SET CONF SMTP /GATEWAY 

I am not 100% sure that this will be able to convert the smtp service to
route all outbound emails to a gateway SMTP server. This is not an
uncomon requirement in the corporate world so there shoudl be a way to
do this if the /gateway doesn't do it.
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Reply jfmezei.spamnot4 (5184) 6/2/2005 11:35:38 PM

dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com writes in article <1117751982.312959.183550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> dated 2 Jun 2005 15:39:42 -0700:
>    Our Spam blocker Guy is trying to restrict outgoing SMTP traffic to
>the internet for security reasons.
>    I use it quite a bit for internet paging direct from DCL scripts.
>    The spam guy wants me to redirect my SMTP stuff through a local
>server SMTP.Bannerhealth.com.    I have absolutely no idea how to do
>this, or even if it can be done,

Assuming you're using "tcp/ip services for Openvms", what you need to do is
set up a general gateway.  See "TCPIP HELP SET CONF SMTP /GATEWAY".

--Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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Reply klewis (95) 6/2/2005 11:35:42 PM

dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com wrote:
> 
>     Our Spam blocker Guy is trying to restrict outgoing SMTP traffic to
> the internet for security reasons.
>     I use it quite a bit for internet paging direct from DCL scripts.
>     The spam guy wants me to redirect my SMTP stuff through a local
> server SMTP.Bannerhealth.com.    I have absolutely no idea how to do
> this, or even if it can be done,
> 
> ....but I know someone out there knows!!.
> 
>     All suggestions (except rude and lewd) gratefully accepted.
> 
> Dave Baxter.

Well, I taught my little Alpha here to forward outbound SMTP mail
through my IPS's mail server.

I run Process Software's Multinet. Try this:

$ mult conf/mail
MultiNet Mail Configuration Utility V4.2(27)
[Reading in configuration from
MULTINET_ROOT:[MULTINET]START_SMTP_LOCAL.COM]
[Reading in configuration from
MULTINET_COMMON_ROOT:[MULTINET]START_SMTP.COM]
MAIL-CONFIG> SET FORWARDER mumble


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Reply djesys.nospam3 (1961) 6/3/2005 12:46:21 AM

dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com wrote:
>     Our Spam blocker Guy is trying to restrict outgoing SMTP traffic to
> the internet for security reasons.
>     I use it quite a bit for internet paging direct from DCL scripts.
>     The spam guy wants me to redirect my SMTP stuff through a local
> server SMTP.Bannerhealth.com.    I have absolutely no idea how to do
> this, or even if it can be done,

If he wants it so much, perhaps he should provide the solution and 
knowledge.  Maybe he'll learn enough about VMS toat he'll go away and 
quit bothering you.

-- 
David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450
Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596
DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com
170 Grimplin Road
Vanderbilt, PA  15486
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Reply davef3 (3426) 6/3/2005 10:04:43 AM

In article <11a0amkdocieuc3@corp.supernews.com>, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com wrote:
>>     Our Spam blocker Guy is trying to restrict outgoing SMTP traffic to
>> the internet for security reasons.
>>     I use it quite a bit for internet paging direct from DCL scripts.
>>     The spam guy wants me to redirect my SMTP stuff through a local
>> server SMTP.Bannerhealth.com.    I have absolutely no idea how to do
>> this, or even if it can be done,
>
>If he wants it so much, perhaps he should provide the solution and 
>knowledge.  Maybe he'll learn enough about VMS toat he'll go away and 
>quit bothering you.
>
Having the firewall block the smtp port (both incoming and outgoing) for all 
but the organisation's central mailhubs is pretty standard for most businesses 
and a growing number of ISPs nowadays. 

Exactly how you configure the VMS system to do it will depend upon the mail 
software being used on the VMS system.


David Webb
Security team leader
CCSS
Middlesex University


>-- 
>David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450
>Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596
>DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com
>170 Grimplin Road
>Vanderbilt, PA  15486
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Reply david20 6/3/2005 12:27:47 PM

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