RX4640 and Fibre channels

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Hi all,

I have a Rx4640,which boots OpenVMS V8.4 fine. Presently I try to get a 
FibreChannel storage (DS2400) working, but up to now no success.

The controler looks within OpenVMS like this:
Device FGA0:, device type QLogic ISP23xx FibreChannel, is offline, 
shareable,
     error logging is enabled.

     Error count                    2    Operations completed 
        3
     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC 
[SYSTEM]
     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot 
S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W
     Reference count                0    Default buffer size 
        0
     Current preferred CPU Id       0    Fastpath 
        1
     Current Interrupt CPU Id       0
     FC Port Name 2100-00E0-8B02-6299    FC Node Name 
2100-00E0-8B02-6299

Device FGB0:, device type QLogic ISP23xx FibreChannel, is online, shareable,
     error logging is enabled.

     Error count                    0    Operations completed 
        3
     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC 
[SYSTEM]
     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot 
S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W
     Reference count                0    Default buffer size 
        0
     Current preferred CPU Id       1    Fastpath 
        1
     Current Interrupt CPU Id       1
     FC Port Name 2100-00E0-8B02-049D    FC Node Name 
2100-00E0-8B02-049D

(The only difference between FGA and FGB is that FGB has no cable 
connected and that FGA is connected to the storage array.)

No disk-devices are visible.


What bothers me is that when I go into the EFI-shell before booting, I 
do not see the device at all (I gave the command "devices")

One Idea was that maybe the EFI driver was missing. However when 
invoking the efiutil command from the firm-ware- CD
( 
http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?swItem=ux-36767-1&
taskId=135&swLang=8&swEnvOID=2061&prodNameId=331475&lang=en&cc=us&idx=0&mode=4&
)
it tells me that no FC-devices are present and that the driver cannot be 
"updated"



Any idea what maybe the problem?


                                       Jouk
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Reply joukj2 (173) 3/21/2012 2:46:24 PM

"Joukj" <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> wrote in message 
news:jkcpju$9dp$2@speranza.aioe.org...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Rx4640,which boots OpenVMS V8.4 fine. Presently I try to get a 
> FibreChannel storage (DS2400) working, but up to now no success.
>
> The controler looks within OpenVMS like this:
> Device FGA0:, device type QLogic ISP23xx FibreChannel, is offline, 
> shareable,
>     error logging is enabled.
>
>     Error count                    2    Operations completed 3
>     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC [SYSTEM]
>     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W
>     Reference count                0    Default buffer size 0
>     Current preferred CPU Id       0    Fastpath 1
>     Current Interrupt CPU Id       0
>     FC Port Name 2100-00E0-8B02-6299    FC Node Name 2100-00E0-8B02-6299
>
> Device FGB0:, device type QLogic ISP23xx FibreChannel, is online, 
> shareable,
>     error logging is enabled.
>
>     Error count                    0    Operations completed 3
>     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC [SYSTEM]
>     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W
>     Reference count                0    Default buffer size 0
>     Current preferred CPU Id       1    Fastpath 1
>     Current Interrupt CPU Id       1
>     FC Port Name 2100-00E0-8B02-049D    FC Node Name 2100-00E0-8B02-049D
>
> (The only difference between FGA and FGB is that FGB has no cable 
> connected and that FGA is connected to the storage array.)
>
> No disk-devices are visible.
>
>
> What bothers me is that when I go into the EFI-shell before booting, I do 
> not see the device at all (I gave the command "devices")
>
> One Idea was that maybe the EFI driver was missing. However when invoking 
> the efiutil command from the firm-ware- CD
> ( 
> http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?swItem=ux-36767-1&
> taskId=135&swLang=8&swEnvOID=2061&prodNameId=331475&lang=en&cc=us&idx=0&mode=4&
> )
> it tells me that no FC-devices are present and that the driver cannot be 
> "updated"
>
>
>
> Any idea what maybe the problem?
>
>
>                                       Jouk

Have the fibre ports of the storage appliance been zoned to either/both of 
these HBAs?

$ SET TERM/WID=132
$ ANALYZE/SYSTEM
FC SET DEV FGA
FC SHOW NAME
FC SET DEV FGB
FC SHOW NAME

Do you see the WWPN's of the storage ports.

Have the storage luns been presented to these HBAs with a non-zero device 
identifier that VMS requires?

SAN config in VMS is passive.  VMS can only use the luns that have been 
presented to it thru the storage ports that have been zoned in with the 
system's HBAs.  Once VMS can 'see' these luns it will create UCBs for them 
when a SYSMAN IO AUTO is executed.

You can also use the following to get a bit more detail as to what is 'seen' 
on the SAN.

$ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC IOGEN$VERBOSE TRUE
$ MCR SYSMAN IO AUTO/LOG
$ DEASSIGN/SYSTEM/EXEC IOGEN$VERBOSE

$ MCR SYS$ETC:FIBRE_SCAN

Jilly 

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Reply jilly2 (84) 3/21/2012 7:19:02 PM


FC loop topology isn't supported on VMS - only Fabric.
I doubt you'll ever get that setup to work.



On 21.3.2012 16:46, Joukj wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Rx4640,which boots OpenVMS V8.4 fine. Presently I try to get a
> FibreChannel storage (DS2400) working, but up to now no success.
>
> The controler looks within OpenVMS like this:
> Device FGA0:, device type QLogic ISP23xx FibreChannel, is offline,
> shareable,
> error logging is enabled.
>
> Error count 2 Operations completed 3
> Owner process "" Owner UIC [SYSTEM]
> Owner process ID 00000000 Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W
> Reference count 0 Default buffer size 0
> Current preferred CPU Id 0 Fastpath 1
> Current Interrupt CPU Id 0
> FC Port Name 2100-00E0-8B02-6299 FC Node Name 2100-00E0-8B02-6299
>
> Device FGB0:, device type QLogic ISP23xx FibreChannel, is online,
> shareable,
> error logging is enabled.
>
> Error count 0 Operations completed 3
> Owner process "" Owner UIC [SYSTEM]
> Owner process ID 00000000 Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W
> Reference count 0 Default buffer size 0
> Current preferred CPU Id 1 Fastpath 1
> Current Interrupt CPU Id 1
> FC Port Name 2100-00E0-8B02-049D FC Node Name 2100-00E0-8B02-049D
>
> (The only difference between FGA and FGB is that FGB has no cable
> connected and that FGA is connected to the storage array.)
>
> No disk-devices are visible.
>
>
> What bothers me is that when I go into the EFI-shell before booting, I
> do not see the device at all (I gave the command "devices")
>
> One Idea was that maybe the EFI driver was missing. However when
> invoking the efiutil command from the firm-ware- CD
> (
> http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?swItem=ux-36767-1&
>
> taskId=135&swLang=8&swEnvOID=2061&prodNameId=331475&lang=en&cc=us&idx=0&mode=4&
>
> )
> it tells me that no FC-devices are present and that the driver cannot be
> "updated"
>
>
>
> Any idea what maybe the problem?
>
>
> Jouk

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Reply uusimaki3 (134) 3/21/2012 8:06:40 PM

On 21-3-2012 21:06, Kari Uusim�ki wrote:
> FC loop topology isn't supported on VMS - only Fabric.
> I doubt you'll ever get that setup to work.

FC-AL indeed isn't, as far as I read, but this should be a
point-to-point setup; one enclosure (providing two channels)
and one controller, directly connected to each other.

  - MG
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Reply marcogbNO (1127) 3/21/2012 8:55:14 PM

MG wrote:
> On 21-3-2012 21:06, Kari Uusim�ki wrote:
>> FC loop topology isn't supported on VMS - only Fabric.
>> I doubt you'll ever get that setup to work.
> 
> FC-AL indeed isn't, as far as I read, but this should be a
> point-to-point setup; one enclosure (providing two channels)
> and one controller, directly connected to each other.
> 
>  - MG

correct, this is the set-up
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Reply joukj2 (173) 3/22/2012 6:55:29 AM

Jilly wrote:
> 
> "Joukj" <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> wrote in message 
> news:jkcpju$9dp$2@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a Rx4640,which boots OpenVMS V8.4 fine. Presently I try to get 
>> a FibreChannel storage (DS2400) working, but up to now no success.
>>
>> The controler looks within OpenVMS like this:
>> Device FGA0:, device type QLogic ISP23xx FibreChannel, is offline, 
>> shareable,
>>     error logging is enabled.
>>
>>     Error count                    2    Operations completed 3
>>     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC [SYSTEM]
>>     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W
>>     Reference count                0    Default buffer size 0
>>     Current preferred CPU Id       0    Fastpath 1
>>     Current Interrupt CPU Id       0
>>     FC Port Name 2100-00E0-8B02-6299    FC Node Name 2100-00E0-8B02-6299
>>
>> Device FGB0:, device type QLogic ISP23xx FibreChannel, is online, 
>> shareable,
>>     error logging is enabled.
>>
>>     Error count                    0    Operations completed 3
>>     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC [SYSTEM]
>>     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W
>>     Reference count                0    Default buffer size 0
>>     Current preferred CPU Id       1    Fastpath 1
>>     Current Interrupt CPU Id       1
>>     FC Port Name 2100-00E0-8B02-049D    FC Node Name 2100-00E0-8B02-049D
>>
>> (The only difference between FGA and FGB is that FGB has no cable 
>> connected and that FGA is connected to the storage array.)
>>
>> No disk-devices are visible.
>>
>>
>> What bothers me is that when I go into the EFI-shell before booting, I 
>> do not see the device at all (I gave the command "devices")
>>
>> One Idea was that maybe the EFI driver was missing. However when 
>> invoking the efiutil command from the firm-ware- CD
>> ( 
>> http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?swItem=ux-36767-1& 
>>
>> taskId=135&swLang=8&swEnvOID=2061&prodNameId=331475&lang=en&cc=us&idx=0&mode=4& 
>>
>> )
>> it tells me that no FC-devices are present and that the driver cannot 
>> be "updated"
>>
>>
>>
>> Any idea what maybe the problem?
>>
>>
>>                                       Jouk
> 
> Have the fibre ports of the storage appliance been zoned to either/both 
> of these HBAs?
> 
> $ SET TERM/WID=132
> $ ANALYZE/SYSTEM
> FC SET DEV FGA
> FC SHOW NAME
> FC SET DEV FGB
> FC SHOW NAME
not much info:
FGA0: / N-Port Handle Table 893C59D0 / FC-LA Table 893C7E50
-----------------------------------------------------------

  FC-LA     | LID  Node WWID            Port WWID           | FC-LA 
  Address  State  Flags  Marker   | FC_LA$   NPH$
  --------- + ---  -------------------  ------------------- + --------- 
  -------  -----  -----  -------- + -------- -------




> 
> Do you see the WWPN's of the storage ports.
no...


> 
> Have the storage luns been presented to these HBAs with a non-zero 
> device identifier that VMS requires?
I wonder, since I do not see anything in the EFI-shell.


> 
> SAN config in VMS is passive.  VMS can only use the luns that have been 
> presented to it thru the storage ports that have been zoned in with the 
> system's HBAs.  Once VMS can 'see' these luns it will create UCBs for 
> them when a SYSMAN IO AUTO is executed.
Reading this, I think I have to focus on the problem, how to make the 
controler+disks visisble in the EFI-shell

> 
> You can also use the following to get a bit more detail as to what is 
> 'seen' on the SAN.
> 
> $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC IOGEN$VERBOSE TRUE
> $ MCR SYSMAN IO AUTO/LOG
> $ DEASSIGN/SYSTEM/EXEC IOGEN$VERBOSE
%IOGEN-I-FIBREPOLL, scanning for devices through FIBRE port FGA0
%IOGEN-F-FTLIOERR, fatal I/O error while trying to access device
%IOGEN-I-FIBREPOLL, scanning for devices through FIBRE port FGB0

> 
> $ MCR SYS$ETC:FIBRE_SCAN

**************************************************************************
**************************************************************************
**                                                                      **
**    Scanning port FGA for all Fibre Channel devices (display only)    **
**                                                                      **
**************************************************************************
**************************************************************************

Probing Target 1 ==========================================================

Target = 1. LUN = 0.
----------------------
Standard Inquiry failed, status = 2c
None found on this port.
End of scan for port FGA.


*************************************************************************
**************************************************************************
**                                                                      **
**    Scanning port FGB for all Fibre Channel devices (display only)    **
**                                                                      **
**************************************************************************
**************************************************************************

Probing Target 1 ==========================================================

Target = 1. LUN = 0.
----------------------
Standard Inquiry failed, status = a58 (SS$_NOMOREDEV)
None found on this port.
End of scan for port FGB.


The status on FGB is to be expected since no device is connected. I have 
no idea what "status = 2" for FGA means
> 
> Jilly
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Reply joukj2 (173) 3/22/2012 7:03:39 AM

"Joukj" <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> wrote in message 
news:jkeid0$ep5$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> MG wrote:
>> On 21-3-2012 21:06, Kari Uusim�ki wrote:
>>> FC loop topology isn't supported on VMS - only Fabric.
>>> I doubt you'll ever get that setup to work.
>>
>> FC-AL indeed isn't, as far as I read, but this should be a
>> point-to-point setup; one enclosure (providing two channels)
>> and one controller, directly connected to each other.
>>
>>  - MG
>
> correct, this is the set-up

Not supported and will not work on VMS.  VMS requires the use of fibre 
switches. 

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Reply jilly2 (84) 3/22/2012 2:38:16 PM

Jilly wrote:
> 
> "Joukj" <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> wrote in message 
> news:jkeid0$ep5$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> MG wrote:
>>> On 21-3-2012 21:06, Kari Uusim�ki wrote:
>>>> FC loop topology isn't supported on VMS - only Fabric.
>>>> I doubt you'll ever get that setup to work.
>>>
>>> FC-AL indeed isn't, as far as I read, but this should be a
>>> point-to-point setup; one enclosure (providing two channels)
>>> and one controller, directly connected to each other.
>>>
>>>  - MG
>>
>> correct, this is the set-up
> 
> Not supported and will not work on VMS.  VMS requires the use of fibre 
> switches.
is it somewhere documented what type of switches are supported?


               Jouk
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Reply joukj2 (173) 3/22/2012 3:41:37 PM

Am Donnerstag, 22. M=E4rz 2012 16:41:37 UTC+1 schrieb Joukj:
> Jilly wrote:
> >=20
> > "Joukj" <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> wrote in message=20
> > news:jkeid0$ep5$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> >> MG wrote:
> >>> On 21-3-2012 21:06, Kari Uusim=E4ki wrote:
> >>>> FC loop topology isn't supported on VMS - only Fabric.
> >>>> I doubt you'll ever get that setup to work.
> >>>
> >>> FC-AL indeed isn't, as far as I read, but this should be a
> >>> point-to-point setup; one enclosure (providing two channels)
> >>> and one controller, directly connected to each other.
> >>>
> >>>  - MG
> >>
> >> correct, this is the set-up
> >=20
> > Not supported and will not work on VMS.  VMS requires the use of fibre=
=20
> > switches.
> is it somewhere documented what type of switches are supported?
>=20
>=20
>                Jouk

Unsupported but working:

MSA1000 & Compaq Six Port Fabric switch

Eberhard
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Reply vaxinf2 (107) 3/22/2012 4:35:24 PM

"Joukj" <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> wrote in message 
news:jkfh7e$tic$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Jilly wrote:
>>
>> "Joukj" <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> wrote in message 
>> news:jkeid0$ep5$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> MG wrote:
>>>> On 21-3-2012 21:06, Kari Uusim�ki wrote:
>>>>> FC loop topology isn't supported on VMS - only Fabric.
>>>>> I doubt you'll ever get that setup to work.
>>>>
>>>> FC-AL indeed isn't, as far as I read, but this should be a
>>>> point-to-point setup; one enclosure (providing two channels)
>>>> and one controller, directly connected to each other.
>>>>
>>>>  - MG
>>>
>>> correct, this is the set-up
>>
>> Not supported and will not work on VMS.  VMS requires the use of fibre 
>> switches.
> is it somewhere documented what type of switches are supported?
>
>
>               Jouk

See the Adapters and Switches section of the V8.4 SPD 82.35.17 

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Reply jilly2 (84) 3/22/2012 5:19:10 PM

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