I was curious to follow the discussion on VAX emulation so I posed the
question
to HP and I received permission to post the answer here.  Teh result is
twofold
1  You can only get a transfer license for CHARON-VAX
2  You can only run this license on an HP produced computer, you can't,
   for eaxmple, run it on a Dell that you might have lying around.



>-----Original Message-----
>From: St Laurent, Pat [mailto:pat.stlaurent@hp.com]
>Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:43 AM
>To: Tom Linden; SWLICENSING
>Cc: Vazquez, MaryJane
>Subject: RE: VAX emulators
>
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>Correct, HP OpenVMS does not license VAX-VMS OS software to run on
>systems other than HP's.   Regarding emulators, we partner with
>SRI to deliver a VAX emulator, and we only offer a transfer
>license for CHARON-VAX.
>There are no plans today to offer transfer licenses for another emulator.
>
>Regards,
>Pat St.Laurent
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Linden [mailto:tom@kednos.com]
>Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:43 PM
>To: SWLICENSING; St Laurent, Pat
>Cc: Vazquez, MaryJane
>Subject: RE: VAX emulators
>
>Hi Pat,
>
>Thanks for your reply.  Just a couple of clarifications please.
>
>Does this mean that we could not get such a license for CHARON-VAX running
>on, say, a Dell computer?
>
>Is it possible to obtain a transfer license for other emulators?
>
>The reason I ask is that we have several large PL/I customers running
>on VAXes who have clearly indicated that they will not port to Alpha and
>have no intention of doing so to Itanium if there is no PL/I compiler
>availale there.  And this gives us the opportunity to retain a customer
>to our mutual benefit.
>
>regards
>Tom
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: St Laurent, Pat [mailto:pat.stlaurent@hp.com]
>>Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:38 AM
>>To: SWLICENSING; tom@kednos.com
>>Cc: Vazquez, MaryJane
>>Subject: RE: VAX emulators
>>
>>
>>Hi Tom,
>>
>>The transfer licenses referenced on the website are valid for
>>OpenVMS/VAX and associated layered software on the CHARON-VAX
>>emulator environment and HP hardware only.  Thus these part
>>numbers are not valid for VAX emulators offered by other vendors.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Pat St.Laurent
>>

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Didier Morandi [mailto:no@spam.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:20 AM
>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
>Subject: Next VAX/VMS Mig Newsletter on emulation: call for papers
>
>
>As I said a few days ago, the next VAX/VMS to Itanium Migration
>News letter will
>focus on: "Emulation as a solution to the VAX/VMS obsolescence issue".
>
>As of today, I have the following list of suppliers and their
>products dealing
>with emulation and/or sources/image translation:
>
>SRI CHARON-VAX
>Accelr8 OpenDCL and translators
>Bob Supnik SIMH
>Forest Edge eVAX
>HP MSVA aka DECmigrate aka VEST (for VAX to Alpha)
>HP MSAI (for Alpha to Itanium) (not yet released)
>
>Other vendors/suppliers are welcome. Please include data sheets
>and references.
>and send to didier.morandi@free.fr
>Thanks,
>
>D.
>--
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>
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Tom Linden wrote:

> I was curious to follow the discussion on VAX emulation so I posed the
> question
> to HP and I received permission to post the answer here.  Teh result is
> twofold
> 1  You can only get a transfer license for CHARON-VAX
> 2  You can only run this license on an HP produced computer, you can't,
>    for eaxmple, run it on a Dell that you might have lying around.

Course, it is printed here, third �:
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/sri-charon-vax-emulator.html

D.

Tom Linden wrote:
> 
> I was curious to follow the discussion on VAX emulation so I posed the
> question
> to HP and I received permission to post the answer here.  Teh result is
> twofold
> 1  You can only get a transfer license for CHARON-VAX
> 2  You can only run this license on an HP produced computer, you can't,
>    for eaxmple, run it on a Dell that you might have lying around.
> 

Well, I can understand them not supporting non-HP hardware - vendor
specific drives and all that.

But on point 1, the corollary is that if I find a piece of software
which was never ported to Alpha (for whatever reason), but suits my
business needs, I would need to find a second hand fully licensed VAX,
do the necessary license transfer, and then do it again for CHARON-VAX.

Just a theoretical situation of course, but am I right in that
assumption?

> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: St Laurent, Pat [mailto:pat.stlaurent@hp.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:43 AM
> >To: Tom Linden; SWLICENSING
> >Cc: Vazquez, MaryJane
> >Subject: RE: VAX emulators
> >
> >
> >Hi Tom,
> >
> >Correct, HP OpenVMS does not license VAX-VMS OS software to run on
> >systems other than HP's.   Regarding emulators, we partner with
> >SRI to deliver a VAX emulator, and we only offer a transfer
> >license for CHARON-VAX.
> >There are no plans today to offer transfer licenses for another emulator.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Pat St.Laurent
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Tom Linden [mailto:tom@kednos.com]
> >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:43 PM
> >To: SWLICENSING; St Laurent, Pat
> >Cc: Vazquez, MaryJane
> >Subject: RE: VAX emulators
> >
> >Hi Pat,
> >
> >Thanks for your reply.  Just a couple of clarifications please.
> >
> >Does this mean that we could not get such a license for CHARON-VAX running
> >on, say, a Dell computer?
> >
> >Is it possible to obtain a transfer license for other emulators?
> >
> >The reason I ask is that we have several large PL/I customers running
> >on VAXes who have clearly indicated that they will not port to Alpha and
> >have no intention of doing so to Itanium if there is no PL/I compiler
> >availale there.  And this gives us the opportunity to retain a customer
> >to our mutual benefit.
> >
> >regards
> >Tom
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: St Laurent, Pat [mailto:pat.stlaurent@hp.com]
> >>Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:38 AM
> >>To: SWLICENSING; tom@kednos.com
> >>Cc: Vazquez, MaryJane
> >>Subject: RE: VAX emulators
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi Tom,
> >>
> >>The transfer licenses referenced on the website are valid for
> >>OpenVMS/VAX and associated layered software on the CHARON-VAX
> >>emulator environment and HP hardware only.  Thus these part
> >>numbers are not valid for VAX emulators offered by other vendors.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Pat St.Laurent
> >>
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Didier Morandi [mailto:no@spam.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:20 AM
> >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
> >Subject: Next VAX/VMS Mig Newsletter on emulation: call for papers
> >
> >
> >As I said a few days ago, the next VAX/VMS to Itanium Migration
> >News letter will
> >focus on: "Emulation as a solution to the VAX/VMS obsolescence issue".
> >
> >As of today, I have the following list of suppliers and their
> >products dealing
> >with emulation and/or sources/image translation:
> >
> >SRI CHARON-VAX
> >Accelr8 OpenDCL and translators
> >Bob Supnik SIMH
> >Forest Edge eVAX
> >HP MSVA aka DECmigrate aka VEST (for VAX to Alpha)
> >HP MSAI (for Alpha to Itanium) (not yet released)
> >
> >Other vendors/suppliers are welcome. Please include data sheets
> >and references.
> >and send to didier.morandi@free.fr
> >Thanks,
> >
> >D.
> >--
> >          Read the latest VAX/VMS to Itanium Migration News
> >       English: www.didiermorandi.com/vaxvms2itanium_200310.pdf
> >       French: www.didiermorandi.com/vaxvms2itanium_200310fr.pdf
> >
> >didier morandi  ~ sarl au capital de 8 000 euros ~  Revendeur agr�� HP
> >     Expertise en environnement DIGITAL ~ Formation ~ Programmation
> >   5 avenue Albert Durand 31700 Blagnac France T�l: 33(0)5 6131 6287
> >   SIRET 448 694 851 00016 RCS Toulouse http://www.didiermorandi.com
> >
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