I have 2 Seagate Cheetah ST336607LW drives connected to the above
controller. It works fine when I set one drive to operate Single-Ended but
the controller won't see the drives when I remove the SE jumper on the
drive. The ID's are set correctly (I use 0 and 8).
The drives dont have termination and the cable has got a terminator at the
end.
I would really like to use the drives LVD as I think the speed will be
better for me.
What can I try ?

Thanks

Charl Freysen
South Africa.

"Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c4i74c$q2$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> I have 2 Seagate Cheetah ST336607LW drives connected to the above
> controller. It works fine when I set one drive to operate Single-Ended but 

> the controller won't see the drives when I remove the SE jumper on the drive. 

What happens if you remove that drive entirely?

> The ID's are set correctly (I use 0 and 8).
> The drives dont have termination and the cable has got a terminator at the
> end.
> I would really like to use the drives LVD as I think the speed will be
> better for me.
> What can I try ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Charl Freysen
> South Africa.
> 
> 

Stil the same, controller does not see the drive.

"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message
news:c4ifin$2ishtd$2@ID-79662.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> "Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c4i74c$q2$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> > I have 2 Seagate Cheetah ST336607LW drives connected to the above
> > controller. It works fine when I set one drive to operate Single-Ended
but
>
> > the controller won't see the drives when I remove the SE jumper on the
drive.
>
> What happens if you remove that drive entirely?
>
> > The ID's are set correctly (I use 0 and 8).
> > The drives dont have termination and the cable has got a terminator at
the
> > end.
> > I would really like to use the drives LVD as I think the speed will be
> > better for me.
> > What can I try ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Charl Freysen
> > South Africa.
> >
> >

Take your one drive off of LUN 8. I don't know about the LSI controllers,
but Adaptec always uses 8 for the controller itself.

Set the drives to 0 and 1 and try it again.

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:03:19 +0200, "Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Stil the same, controller does not see the drive.
>
>"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message
>news:c4ifin$2ishtd$2@ID-79662.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>
>> "Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:c4i74c$q2$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>> > I have 2 Seagate Cheetah ST336607LW drives connected to the above
>> > controller. It works fine when I set one drive to operate Single-Ended
>but
>>
>> > the controller won't see the drives when I remove the SE jumper on the
>drive.
>>
>> What happens if you remove that drive entirely?
>>
>> > The ID's are set correctly (I use 0 and 8).
>> > The drives dont have termination and the cable has got a terminator at
>the
>> > end.
>> > I would really like to use the drives LVD as I think the speed will be
>> > better for me.
>> > What can I try ?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Charl Freysen
>> > South Africa.

Ok, will try.
"moog" <no.spam@my.address> wrote in message
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> Take your one drive off of LUN 8. I don't know about the LSI controllers,
> but Adaptec always uses 8 for the controller itself.
>
> Set the drives to 0 and 1 and try it again.
>
> On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:03:19 +0200, "Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> >Stil the same, controller does not see the drive.
> >
> >"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message
> >news:c4ifin$2ishtd$2@ID-79662.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >>
> >> "Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:c4i74c$q2$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> >> > I have 2 Seagate Cheetah ST336607LW drives connected to the above
> >> > controller. It works fine when I set one drive to operate
Single-Ended
> >but
> >>
> >> > the controller won't see the drives when I remove the SE jumper on
the
> >drive.
> >>
> >> What happens if you remove that drive entirely?
> >>
> >> > The ID's are set correctly (I use 0 and 8).
> >> > The drives dont have termination and the cable has got a terminator
at
> >the
> >> > end.
> >> > I would really like to use the drives LVD as I think the speed will
be
> >> > better for me.
> >> > What can I try ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Charl Freysen
> >> > South Africa.
>

Nope, still no luck.
The controller comes up as ID 7, disk just before terminator as ID 0 and
second disk as ID 8
when I go into LSI program by Pressing CTRL-C during startup. I have set ID0
as Primary and ID8 as
Secondary for mirroring and the mirror works fine. The drives synchronise
and I can see the process in LSI CIMbrowser.
When I turn the synchronise off I can see and use both disks in WINXP.

Like I said before disk ID0 has got the jumper to force SE and when I remove
it the LSI setup does
not detect any of the two drives. The rest of the jumper settings on the
drives are all default (except to force SE on ID0)

Is there not something I must set in the PC BIOS ?
"Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, will try.
> "moog" <no.spam@my.address> wrote in message
> news:o8hq601dqh5s6b06qkk2djat3ac83mlkj6@4ax.com...
> > Take your one drive off of LUN 8. I don't know about the LSI
controllers,
> > but Adaptec always uses 8 for the controller itself.
> >
> > Set the drives to 0 and 1 and try it again.
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:03:19 +0200, "Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >Stil the same, controller does not see the drive.
> > >
> > >"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message
> > >news:c4ifin$2ishtd$2@ID-79662.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > >>
> > >> "Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:c4i74c$q2$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> > >> > I have 2 Seagate Cheetah ST336607LW drives connected to the above
> > >> > controller. It works fine when I set one drive to operate
> Single-Ended
> > >but
> > >>
> > >> > the controller won't see the drives when I remove the SE jumper on
> the
> > >drive.
> > >>
> > >> What happens if you remove that drive entirely?
> > >>
> > >> > The ID's are set correctly (I use 0 and 8).
> > >> > The drives dont have termination and the cable has got a terminator
> at
> > >the
> > >> > end.
> > >> > I would really like to use the drives LVD as I think the speed will
> be
> > >> > better for me.
> > >> > What can I try ?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Charl Freysen
> > >> > South Africa.
> >
>
>

"moog" <no.spam@my.address> wrote in message news:o8hq601dqh5s6b06qkk2djat3ac83mlkj6@4ax.com
> 
> On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:03:19 +0200, "Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "Folkert Rienstra" see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message news:c4ifin$2ishtd$2@ID-79662.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > "Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c4i74c$q2$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> > > > I have 2 Seagate Cheetah ST336607LW drives connected to the above
> > > > controller. It works fine when I set one drive to operate Single-Ended but
> > > 
> > > > the controller won't see the drives when I remove the SE jumper on the drive.
> > > 
> > > What happens if you remove that drive entirely?
> >
> > Stil the same, controller does not see the drive.
>
> Take your one drive off of LUN 8. I don't know about the LSI controllers,

> but Adaptec always uses 8 for the controller itself.

Nope, they never did. (The lower IDs wouldn't work).

OH, and why would that suddenly not be a problem when he sets the bus to SE?

You thought this over quite a bit, right?

> 
> Set the drives to 0 and 1 and try it again.

Clueless.



> > > 
> > > > The ID's are set correctly (I use 0 and 8).
> > > > The drives dont have termination and the cable has got a terminator at the
> > > > end.
> > > > I would really like to use the drives LVD as I think the speed will be
> > > > better for me.
> > > > What can I try ?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > Charl Freysen
> > > > South Africa.

"Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c4j721$qfl$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net
> "Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message news:c4ifin$2ishtd$2@ID-79662.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > "Charl" <charlfreysen@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c4i74c$q2$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> > > I have 2 Seagate Cheetah ST336607LW drives connected to the above
> > > controller. It works fine when I set one drive to operate Single-Ended but
> > 
> > > the controller won't see the drives when I remove the SE jumper on the drive.
> > 
> > What happens if you remove that drive entirely?
>
> Stil the same, controller does not see the drive.

If same happens with the other drive removed I'd say that the drives 
are not the culprit but rather the controller(channel) itself or the terminator.
Does the same happen on the other channel or without the terminator attached?
Either the LVD bus is defective or the terminator is terminating in SE mode
without switching the bus to SE mode also.

> > 
> > > The ID's are set correctly (I use 0 and 8).
> > > The drives dont have termination and the cable has got a terminator at
> > > the end.
> > > I would really like to use the drives LVD as I think the speed will be
> > > better for me.
> > > What can I try ?
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Charl Freysen
> > > South Africa.

moog <no.spam@my.address> writes:
>Take your one drive off of LUN 8. I don't know about the LSI controllers,
>but Adaptec always uses 8 for the controller itself.

Any ID is valid for the controller, so long as the operating
system doesn't make any assumptions (e.g. SGI Irix systems use 0 for the
controller).

scott

>>Take your one drive off of LUN 8. I don't know about the LSI controllers,
>>but Adaptec always uses 8 for the controller itself.

That's news to me: all mine are 7.

>Any ID is valid for the controller,
>so long as the operating system doesn't make any assumptions
>(e.g. SGI Irix systems use 0 for the controller).

I found a pleasant description of the SCSI bus arbitration process at
    http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/scsi/confIDs-c.html

	So the overall priority sequence for wide SCSI is
	7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 , 0, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8.

Default for LSI looks like 7.

"Scott Lurndal" <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote in message
news:Weibc.45347$zk6.20366@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
> moog <no.spam@my.address> writes:
> >Take your one drive off of LUN 8. I don't know about the LSI controllers,
> >but Adaptec always uses 8 for the controller itself.
>
> Any ID is valid for the controller, so long as the operating
> system doesn't make any assumptions (e.g. SGI Irix systems use 0 for the
> controller).
>
> scott
>