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Last month I said I would be silent for a while and work on a new
programming language, called spinoza. I promised an xmlParser
component by March 30 (today), a number component by April 10 and the
language itself by April 30.

I am testing the parser. It is cool but not ready for prime time, and
will be so, hopefully, April 7. This shall push back the other
deadlines, of course, and I will revise these on April 7 or when the
xmlParser is ready.

The xmlParser to be worthwhile has what I think are unique features.
Parser objects, for example, are thoroughly compareable because
spinoza source programs need to be compared as trees.

I shall be available in this newsgroup today and tomorrow (March 31)
only to banter with my many fans here (ha!) and answer questions,
within reason.
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Reply spinoza1111 (3250) 3/30/2008 10:20:36 AM


spinoza1111 wrote:

> Last month I said I would be silent for a while and work on a new
> programming language, called spinoza. I promised an xmlParser
> component by March 30 (today), a number component by April 10 and the
> language itself by April 30.
>
> I am testing the parser. It is cool but not ready for prime time, and
> will be so, hopefully, April 7. This shall push back the other
> deadlines, of course, and I will revise these on April 7 or when the
> xmlParser is ready.
>
> The xmlParser to be worthwhile has what I think are unique features.
> Parser objects, for example, are thoroughly compareable because
> spinoza source programs need to be compared as trees.
>
> I shall be available in this newsgroup today and tomorrow (March 31)
> only to banter with my many fans here (ha!) and answer questions,
> within reason.

7 days slip on a 18 day schedule with a suggestion there may be more.


w..



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Reply walter20 (872) 3/30/2008 5:52:31 PM


On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:52:31 -0500, Walter Banks
<walter@bytecraft.com> wrote:

>7 days slip on a 18 day schedule with a suggestion there may be more.
"The due date of a project is a series of dates ... "

rossum

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Reply rossum48 (643) 3/30/2008 9:20:04 PM

On Mar 31, 1:52=A0am, Walter Banks <wal...@bytecraft.com> wrote:
> spinoza1111wrote:
> > Last month I said I would be silent for a while and work on a new
> > programming language, called spinoza. I promised an xmlParser
> > component by March 30 (today), a number component by April 10 and the
> > language itself by April 30.
>
> > I am testing the parser. It is cool but not ready for prime time, and
> > will be so, hopefully, April 7. This shall push back the other
> > deadlines, of course, and I will revise these on April 7 or when the
> > xmlParser is ready.
>
> > The xmlParser to be worthwhile has what I think are unique features.
> > Parser objects, for example, are thoroughly compareable because
> > spinoza source programs need to be compared as trees.
>
> > I shall be available in this newsgroup today and tomorrow (March 31)
> > only to banter with my many fans here (ha!) and answer questions,
> > within reason.
>
> 7 days slip on a 18 day schedule with a suggestion there may be more.

Sure. I have a real job and a life. I grab unpredictable scraps of
time in which to do this work.

I am testing the xmlParser. Others thought I should have made it an
abstract class and used an existing parser. I don't like any xml
parsers.

The Korporate programming world continually factors any sense of
independent skill with time to market in such a way as to eliminate
programming skill. Spirits wounded by this factorization, which
destroys the sense of independence that adults seek in any but an
unskilled job, crawl here but are discouraged by bullying from forming
a new conversation in which human solidarity replaces Korporate anti-
solidarity, because bullying exposes their feared inadequacy as
males.

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Reply spinoza1111 (3250) 3/31/2008 4:12:01 AM

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:52:31 -0500, Walter Banks wrote
(in article <47EFD35F.3DD9B6DB@bytecraft.com>):

> 
> 
> spinoza1111 wrote:
> 
>> Last month I said I would be silent for a while and work on a new
>> programming language, called spinoza. I promised an xmlParser
>> component by March 30 (today), a number component by April 10 and the
>> language itself by April 30.
>> 
>> I am testing the parser. It is cool but not ready for prime time, and
>> will be so, hopefully, April 7. This shall push back the other
>> deadlines, of course, and I will revise these on April 7 or when the
>> xmlParser is ready.
>> 
>> The xmlParser to be worthwhile has what I think are unique features.
>> Parser objects, for example, are thoroughly compareable because
>> spinoza source programs need to be compared as trees.
>> 
>> I shall be available in this newsgroup today and tomorrow (March 31)
>> only to banter with my many fans here (ha!) and answer questions,
>> within reason.
> 
> 7 days slip on a 18 day schedule with a suggestion there may be more.

He first announced this "new" language on his blog like a year ago, so 
don't hold your breath.


-- 
Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR)
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those 
 who have not got it."  - George Bernard Shaw





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Reply randyhoward (3272) 4/3/2008 7:08:05 AM

On 30 Mrz., 19:52, Walter Banks <wal...@bytecraft.com> wrote:
> spinoza1111 wrote:
> > Last month I said I would be silent for a while and work on a new
> > programming language, called spinoza. I promised an xmlParser
> > component by March 30 (today), a number component by April 10 and the
> > language itself by April 30.
>
> > I am testing the parser. It is cool but not ready for prime time, and
> > will be so, hopefully, April 7. This shall push back the other
> > deadlines, of course, and I will revise these on April 7 or when the
> > xmlParser is ready.
>
> > The xmlParser to be worthwhile has what I think are unique features.
> > Parser objects, for example, are thoroughly compareable because
> > spinoza source programs need to be compared as trees.
>
> > I shall be available in this newsgroup today and tomorrow (March 31)
> > only to banter with my many fans here (ha!) and answer questions,
> > within reason.
>
> 7 days slip on a 18 day schedule with a suggestion there may be more.

Now it's 11 days...

Greetings Thomas Mertes

Seed7 Homepage:  http://seed7.sourceforge.net
Seed7 - The extensible programming language: User defined statements
and operators, abstract data types, templates without special
syntax, OO with interfaces and multiple dispatch, statically typed,
interpreted or compiled, portable, runs under linux/unix/windows.


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Reply thomas.mertes (593) 4/11/2008 3:36:49 PM

On Apr 11, 11:36=A0pm, thomas.mer...@gmx.at wrote:
> On 30 Mrz., 19:52, Walter Banks <wal...@bytecraft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >spinoza1111wrote:
> > > Last month I said I would be silent for a while and work on a new
> > > programming language, called spinoza. I promised an xmlParser
> > > component by March 30 (today), a number component by April 10 and the
> > > language itself by April 30.
>
> > > I am testing the parser. It is cool but not ready for prime time, and
> > > will be so, hopefully, April 7. This shall push back the other
> > > deadlines, of course, and I will revise these on April 7 or when the
> > > xmlParser is ready.
>
> > > The xmlParser to be worthwhile has what I think are unique features.
> > > Parser objects, for example, are thoroughly compareable because
> > > spinoza source programs need to be compared as trees.
>
> > > I shall be available in this newsgroup today and tomorrow (March 31)
> > > only to banter with my many fans here (ha!) and answer questions,
> > > within reason.
>
> > 7 days slip on a 18 day schedule with a suggestion there may be more.
>
> Now it's 11 days...

I know it's hard for my numerous fans to wait but wait you shall. See
the progress report. Not only do I have a "second career" which
liberates me from having to work alongside the usual types of
programmers but which is itself time-consuming, I have the freedom
(for man is born free although everywhere in chains) to elect to
pursue, in a logarithmically slowing-down but finite way, subgoals.
Here, it is rational and visual progress reporting.

In my experience, quite a lot of timing has been wasted to "meet
deadlines", since having "something working" is verifiable to
uneducated managers. Therefore, this newsgroup having been transformed
by damaged souls into a circus of surplus repression, the game shall
be "let's play deadlines".

Let's not and say we did.
>
> Greetings Thomas Mertes
>
> Seed7 Homepage: =A0http://seed7.sourceforge.net
> Seed7 - The extensible programming language: User defined statements
> and operators, abstract data types, templates without special
> syntax, OO with interfaces and multiple dispatch, statically typed,
> interpreted or compiled, portable, runs under linux/unix/windows.- Hide qu=
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Reply spinoza1111 (3250) 4/13/2008 11:53:35 AM


spinoza1111 wrote:

> On Apr 11, 11:36 pm, thomas.mer...@gmx.at wrote:
> > On 30 Mrz., 19:52, Walter Banks <wal...@bytecraft.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >spinoza1111wrote:
> > > > Last month I said I would be silent for a while and work on a new
> > > > programming language, called spinoza. I promised an xmlParser
> > > > component by March 30 (today), a number component by April 10 and the
> > > > language itself by April 30.
> >
> >
> > > 7 days slip on a 18 day schedule with a suggestion there may be more.
> >
> > Now it's 11 days...
>
> Therefore, this newsgroup having been transformed
> by damaged souls into a circus of surplus repression, the game shall
> be "let's play deadlines".
>
> Let's not and say we did.
> >

I believe you set your own deadlines. Progress markers on sub goals
help predict completion dates. Me I don't care. My bet is never
finished. One voice in the office pool :)

w..





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