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#### how to obtain the non-zero solution of the equation?

```Hi all,

I want to solve x for y=(e^x-x-1)/e^x-1

however,

syms x y
solve('x-y/(e^y-1)','y')

ans =

0

but with the following online equation solver, i'm able to obtain the solution I want

http://www.hostsrv.com/webmab/app1/MSP/quickmath/02/pageGenerate?site=quickmath&s1=equations&s2=solve&s3=basic

It is free!!! But matlab is not!
``` 0 11/21/2008 12:13:02 PM comp.soft-sys.matlab  211265 articles. 25 followers. 2 Replies 339 Views Similar Articles

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```atemporal atemporal wrote:

> I want to solve x for y=(e^x-x-1)/e^x-1

> however,

> syms x y
> solve('x-y/(e^y-1)','y')

> ans =
> 0

What do the two equations have to do with each other?

If y=(e^x-x-1)/e^x - 1
then x + y*e^x + 1 = 0
which doesn't look anything like what you ask to solve() for.

Have you perhaps mis-entered or mis-read one of the equations? For example,
is it (e^x-x-1)/e^x-1 or is it (e^x-x-1)/(e^x-1) ?

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``` 0 11/21/2008 6:36:30 PM
```Actually, one can be transformed to another by some subsituting. The
key point is that matlab fails to solve such problems, at least,
R2008a.

On Nov 22, 2:36=A0am, Walter Roberson <rober...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> atemporal atemporal wrote:
> > I want to solve x for y=3D(e^x-x-1)/e^x-1
> > however,
> > syms x y
> > solve('x-y/(e^y-1)','y')
> > ans =3D
> > 0
>
> What do the two equations have to do with each other?
>
> If y=3D(e^x-x-1)/e^x - 1
> then x + y*e^x + 1 =3D 0
> which doesn't look anything like what you ask to solve() for.
>
> Have you perhaps mis-entered or mis-read one of the equations? For exampl=
e,
> is it (e^x-x-1)/e^x-1 or is it (e^x-x-1)/(e^x-1) ?
>
> --
> .signature note: I am now avoiding replying to unclear or ambiguous posti=
ngs.
> Please review questions before posting them. Be specific. Use examples of=
what you mean,
> of what you don't mean. Specify boundary conditions, and data classes and=
value
> relationships -- what if we scrambled your data or used -Inf, NaN, or com=
plex(rand,rand)?

``` 0 11/22/2008 1:48:06 AM