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Re: Difference Between PC SAS and UNIX SAS #2

I cannot give a complete list by any means for these two systems but there
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is one of these.  I suggest that you look at the Companion to the ...
Operating System in the online docs for each of these and compare the two
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Whether there is any difference between PC SAS and UNIX SAS &nbsp;from the
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Re: Difference Between PC SAS and UNIX SAS but getting off topic #2
I still use the word "cards" rather than "datalines" in SAS programs to = indicate inline data; it does remind me how much easier life is than = when we had to type our SAS/SPSS programs up using punched cards. =20 AMES! What a coincidence- I was in Iowa City at the same time! Nat, are = you from Iowa? I came to Iowa City from the Boston area, and = essentially never left. Mary Howard Research Assistant III Dept. of Ophthalmology Univ. of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nat Wooding=20 To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU=20 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Difference Between PC SAS and UNIX SAS but getting off = topic Naveen wrote: "Long/short: Get to know and be very nice to your local systems administrator. Then PC SAS =3D UNIX SAS" meaning that the system admin controls the resources available to your = jobs and you want the admin to like you. This brings to mind a tale of back in the days when jobs were = submitted on decks of punch cards. Long jobs might fill a card box but smaller ones = were held together with rubber bands. At the computing center in Ames, = Iowa, supposedly if you wanted special treatment, you might slip a piece of = hard candy under the rubber band. Nat Wooding Environmental Specialist III Dominion, Environmental Biology 4111 Castlewood Rd Richmond, VA 23234 Phone:804-271-5313, Fax: 804-271-2977 NMani ...

Re: Difference Between PC SAS and UNIX SAS
I'm not aware of any differences in SAS. For sure, there are some differences for external interfaces. E.g. there are no drive letters in UNIX (C:\a\b\). Normally the path delimiters are slashes (/) instead on back-slashes (\) in UNIX, but you can use both in SAS (c:/a/b). And all the commands are different (cp instead of copy, ls instead of dir, mkdir instead of md, ...) As far as you don't need that external commands, SAS is all the same on both platforms. Some limitations could be different - not the SAS limits, but OS limits. A few years ago you could not have more than 2 GB as dataset size (that limitations is gone for long time, only as example). There might be a difference. On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:28:09 -0700, Suthakar Iyer <suthakariyer@YAHOO.COM> wrote: >Hi, >Whether there is any difference between PC SAS and UNIX SAS &nbsp;from the functionality or user point of view. >&nbsp; >If there is a difference , kindly can you mention it. >&nbsp; >Thanks for the help in advance. >&nbsp; >Suthakar >&nbsp; >&nbsp; ...

Re: Difference Between PC SAS and UNIX SAS #3
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 05:51:32 -0700, Lou <lpogoda@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: >On Jun 5, 11:50 pm, PaulOK <nancynpaul-s...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Jun 5, 5:53 pm, "Lou" <lpog...@verizon.net> wrote: >> .... >> >> > In my limited experience, there are minor programming differences - you use >> > a forward slash instead of a backward slash in path names for example, >> >> .... >> Actually one can use either forward or backward slashes in Windows SAS >> programs. > >Yes one can use either in SAS for Windows, but not in SAS for Unix > >> >> libname datalib "c:/data/project/work"; >> >> works exactly the same as >> >> libname datalib "c:\data\project\work"; >> >> .... >> >> > Lastly, the documentation for SAS on Unix is riddled with misinformation and >> > in some cases is flatly wrong - obviously copied from some other platform >> > (probably Windows) and not checked for accuracy or applicability. >> >> Could you provide a specific example where the UNIX SAS documentations >> is 'flatly wrong'. > > >I'm not currently working in a place that has a unix environment, so >this is from memory. Where I was working a couple of years ago, the >company had made the decision to go to SAS on Unix, bought a shiny new >server, installed SAS, etc. I was par...

Re: Difference Between PC SAS and UNIX SAS but getting off topic
Naveen wrote: "Long/short: Get to know and be very nice to your local systems administrator. Then PC SAS = UNIX SAS" meaning that the system admin controls the resources available to your jobs and you want the admin to like you. This brings to mind a tale of back in the days when jobs were submitted on decks of punch cards. Long jobs might fill a card box but smaller ones were held together with rubber bands. At the computing center in Ames, Iowa, supposedly if you wanted special treatment, you might slip a piece of hard candy under the rubber band. Nat Wooding Environmental Specialist III Dominion, Environmental Biology 4111 Castlewood Rd Richmond, VA 23234 Phone:804-271-5313, Fax: 804-271-2977 NMani <naveen.manivanna n@GMAIL.COM> To Sent by: "SAS(r) SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Discussion" cc <SAS-L@LISTSERV.U GA.EDU> Subject Re: Difference Between PC SAS and UNIX SAS 06/06/2008 02:02 PM Please respond to NMani <naveen.manivanna n@GMAIL.COM> On Jun 5, 1:28 pm, suthakari...@yahoo.com (Suthakar Iyer) wrote: > Hi, > Whether the...

Re: Difference Between PC SAS and UNIX SAS but getting off topic #3
Mary I was at NCSU and left in 1973. One of the young stat profs, Ron Gallant, if memory serves, came up with the Ames story. And I, too, do not recall the days of punched cards at all fondly. 1) you had to wait for a job to be read in. 2) cards became damaged on the edges from wear and had to be replaced regularly 3) you could drop the deck and scramble it. There were ways around this but they were imperfect 4) I had one experience with a new card reader which, upon encountering a damaged card, made you think that it was a different card that was the problem and one or more of your cards from that was read through the reader was/were never seen by the system. 5) try inserting new characters between columns on a punch card. There are more of these but I would rather not remember them. Nat vironmental Specialist III Dominion, Environmental Biology 4111 Castlewood Rd Richmond, VA 23234 Phone:804-271-5313, Fax: 804-271-2977 Mary <mlhoward@AVALON. NET> To Sent by: "SAS(r) SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Discussion" cc <SAS-L@LISTSERV.U GA.EDU> Subject Re: Difference Between PC SAS and UNIX SAS but getting off topic 06/...

Difference Between PC SAS and UNIX SAS
Hi, Whether there is any difference between PC SAS and UNIX SAS &nbsp;from the functionality or user point of view. &nbsp; If there is a difference , kindly can you mention it. &nbsp; Thanks for the help in advance. &nbsp; Suthakar &nbsp; &nbsp; "Suthakar Iyer" <suthakariyer@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:221005.80242.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com... > Hi, > Whether there is any difference between PC SAS and UNIX SAS &nbsp;from the functionality or user point of view. > &nbsp; > If there is a difference , kindly can you mention it. > &nbsp; > Thanks for the help in advance. > &nbsp; > Suthakar > &nbsp; > &nbsp; In my limited experience, there are minor programming differences - you use a forward slash instead of a backward slash in path names for example, and case matters in file names for Unix but not for Windows. These are operating system issues - how you specify the physical location of a file varies with the OS. The more noticeable differences are interface issues. SAS on Unix doesn't have an application work space - the program, log, output, and other windows of a SAS session are loose objects on the desktop, while on Windows these objects are all collected within the application work space. I think this is a SAS issue - I remember back in version 6 that SAS had an application work space on Unix, and why it doesn't in version 9 is beyond me. Other appearance ...

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Re: Running SAS jobs sequentially in batch mode
I have another question, somewhat related to this topic: Is there a way to save on resource when running a big SAS job by suppressing the log file? Sometimes SAS refused to run farther being bogged down by the running log generated... Susie Li TV Guide 1211 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10036 Tel 212.852.7453 Email susie.li@tvguide.com ...

Re: Running SAS jobs sequentially in batch mode
Harry retracts his erroneous note. :-( The little DOS script will quite nicely submit the jobs in series. Thanks again to the birdie for the correction. Some days you're the bird, some days you're the statue. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Droogendyk, Harry Sent: 2006, February, 09 3:20 PM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: FW: Running SAS jobs sequentially in batch mode - PC SAS v9.2 From a SAS birdie: Here's a little dos batch script I use to run all of the sas jobs in a directory on my u: drive - maybe you could enhance that to meet your needs (on our system, ...

Re: Running SAS jobs sequentially in batch mode
harry.droogendyk@RBC.COM replied: >Create a new "master" program, and %include all the production jobs in >sequence. > >Note that unless you clean up work datasets and any macro variables >created by each production job, subsequent jobs will not be starting in >a pristine environment. It may be a good idea to include a new program >between each production job to kill all work datasets and query >sashelp.vmacro to create %symdel statements to delete macro variables. Since I haven't said the "P" word in a few days, let me suggest: Perl A Perl &...

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Re: Running SAS jobs sequentially in batch mode
I've never had this problem with a well-behaved job. Just what is causing the log to become that bloated? On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:14:50 -0500, Susie Li <Susie.Li@TVGUIDE.COM> wrote: >I have another question, somewhat related to this topic: > >Is there a way to save on resource when running a big SAS job by >suppressing the log file? Sometimes SAS refused to run farther being >bogged down by the running log generated... > >Susie Li >TV Guide >1211 Avenue of the Americas >New York, NY 10036 >Tel 212.852.7453 >Email susie.li@tvguide.com ...

Re: Running SAS jobs sequentially in batch mode
Susie.Li@TVGUIDE.COM wrote: >I have another question, somewhat related to this topic: > >Is there a way to save on resource when running a big SAS job by >suppressing the log file? Sometimes SAS refused to run farther being >bogged down by the running log generated... I have never seen this.. except when the programs are being run from the Display Manager instead of as batch jobs. Could that be the problem? As an aside, my guess is that the real problem is that your colleague has written a very inefficient SAS program. Are we talking perhaps a huge macro loop to do lots of ...

Re: Unix help: How to hold a SAS run subsequent to run of another application inside SAS #2
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Re: SAS Sample 1728 Was ---> Re: SAS Sample 1727 #2
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Modifications to use PC SAS instead of Mainframe SAS (Former subject: "PC SAS")
Mia, Since you are new to SAS, I would recommend that you modify the mainframe SAS code slightly and use it on your PC. But, you will have to reformat the Excel files and save them as text (without any column headings) before running SAS. I will presume that the first columns of your spreadsheets are the same as the mainframe data file. Test1 has YR, ATYPE, OBJ, SOBJ and AMT and Test2 has OBJ, SOBJ and SNAME. You want to adjust the column widths in Excel to match the SAS code and save the Excel file as a text file. Column widths in Excel should be set with "Format" > "C...

Re: suggest: improve SAS Deployment Wizard for SAS v9.2, phase 2
Subject: Re: v9.2 phase 2, page update "Make the installation of SAS BI Server easier!" .... Ok w/me! Just remember that the majority of us are still just installing only SAS Foundation v9.2, and possibly Enterprise Guide v4.2 My rant/suggestion to Tech Support has been addressed. I have added notes about my conversation with Tech Support to this sas community wiki page: http://www.sascommunity.org/wiki/V9.2_Phase_2_install_guide summary: if you have Build # greater than or equal to 28 then you can dispense with ForceInstall. Ronald J. Fehd, IT Spec HelpDesk Level 3: SAS CDC S...

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