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Re: Leading 5 spaces in subject line on SAS-L #7

I am not seeing it either.  In the mail the Subjects look ok,
in the archives they look ok and a check of comp.soft-sys.sas
(via google groups) showed subjects there to look ok.

---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:44:37 -0500
>From: Mike Rhoads <RHOADSM1@WESTAT.COM>
>Subject: Re: Leading 5 spaces in subject line on SAS-L
>To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>
>Well, for whatever it's worth, the problem is not
universal.  Nothing out of
>the ordinary seems to be happening at Westat (Outlook 2002,
MS Exchange
>server).
>
>Mike Rhoads
>Westat
>RhoadsM1@Westat.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fehd, Ronald J. (PHPPO) [mailto:rjf2@CDC.GOV]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:59 AM
>To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Leading 5 spaces in subject line on SAS-L
>
>
>RE:      Leading 5 spaces in subject line on SAS-L
>...123456
>yes, me, too!
><ack!> I am not alone! ... in my suffering!
>
>Ron Fehd  the macro maven  CDC Atlanta GA USA RJF2@cdc.gov
>
>do not fold, spindle, or mutilate -- IBM punch card
>... the subject line
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Groeneveld, Jim [mailto:jim.groeneveld@VITATRON.COM]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:52 AM
>> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> Subject: Leading 5 spaces in subject line on SAS-L
>>
>>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> Since I resubscribed to SAS-L from my new email address
last August I
>> experience each subject line, in contributions received
via SAS-L as
>> individual emails, to start with 5 spaces. My email
program (LookOut
>> from MyHard) has got trouble with it while replying and
while
>> searching for other contributions on the same subject. I
have to
>> manually interfere every time to get things as I want.
Other (direct)
>> emails and email from other lists don't show this
>> peculiarity. Does anyone of you also experience it? If so,
it
>> may be a problem with the listserv.
>>
>> Regards - Jim.
>> --
>> .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
>>
>> Jim Groeneveld, MSc.
>> Biostatistician
>> Science Team
>> Vitatron B.V.
>> Meander 1051
>> 6825 MJ  Arnhem
>> Tel: +31/0 26 376 7365
>> Fax: +31/0 26 376 7305
>> Jim.Groeneveld@Vitatron.com
>> www.vitatron.com
>>
>> My computer has the solutions, I have the problems.
>>
>> [common disclaimer]
>>
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Leading 5 spaces in subject line on SAS-L
Hi friends, Since I resubscribed to SAS-L from my new email address last August I experience each subject line, in contributions received via SAS-L as individual emails, to start with 5 spaces. My email program (LookOut from MyHard) has got trouble with it while replying and while searching for other contributions on the same subject. I have to manually interfere every time to get things as I want. Other (direct) emails and email from other lists don't show this peculiarity. Does anyone of you also experience it? If so, it may be a problem with the listserv. Regards - Jim. -- .. . . ....

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Re: SAS Advanced Programming Exam for SAS 9: SAS Joke of the year. #5
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Re: SAS-L Panel / SAS-L as a Resource for Learning #2
I for one have great value in teh SAS-L. Given my companies severly outdated and often masochistic view towards continual education especially in SAS and their reluctance at best to send any one to a SUGI conference or even to let one go one on their own dime, I have have to rely on other sources for my SAS learning. SAs-L is just one of a handle full of places I go for ideas and information on how to improve my existing and future code. One of the stark realities that I have come to learn over the past year about SAS is that its not as much the luanguage that makes it so great as the people...

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