New Low Power Laptop & Disappearance of Laptops with Floppy Drives

CJE Micro's is pleased to announc the launch of the new Clevo M450 C. The
M450 uses the Celeron M320 a low power 'Mobile' processor for extended
battery life.

15" TFT LCD (1024 x 768)
Celeron M 320 (1.3MHz)
64MB Shared graphics
Internal card reader
(no floppy drive)
DVD / CDRW Combo drive
256MB DDR 2700
40GB HDD
Wireless 802.11G
XP Home
VRPC-SE
960 GBP inc VAT

Optional upgrade to a Pentium M (1.3MHz) Processor and an 8x DVD writer dual
format for only 100 GBP.
Faster 'mobile' processors available!


2700D last few!
One of the few laptops to have a floppy drive is now being discontinued. We
have limited stocks available, order now to avoid disappointment.

2.4GHz Celeron Processor
256Mb Memory
40Gb Hard Drive
CDROM
Windows XP Home
VRPC-SE

865 GBP inc VAT

Delivery on laptops 15 GBP if required

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In article <ap.07e90b4d21.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
   CJE/NCS Sales <sales@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> New Low Power Laptop & Disappearance of Laptops with Floppy Drives

> CJE Micro's is pleased to announc the launch of the new Clevo M450 C. The
> M450 uses the Celeron M320 a low power 'Mobile' processor for extended
> battery life.

[Snip]

To be honest, I don't think it's appropriate to be advertising non-Acorn
hardware on an Acorn newsgroup.

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In message <4d21f4d877nospam@segfault.co.uk>
          pv <nospam@segfault.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <ap.07e90b4d21.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
>    CJE/NCS Sales <sales@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> > New Low Power Laptop & Disappearance of Laptops with Floppy Drives
> 
> > CJE Micro's is pleased to announc the launch of the new Clevo M450 C. The
> > M450 uses the Celeron M320 a low power 'Mobile' processor for extended
> > battery life.
> 
> [Snip]
> 
> To be honest, I don't think it's appropriate to be advertising non-Acorn
> hardware on an Acorn newsgroup.

D'oh! Now I can't talk about my Iyonix or my brother's Mico :( 

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In article <e470f6214d.news@itworkshop.invalid>,
   Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:

> D'oh! Now I can't talk about my Iyonix or my brother's Mico :( 

Non ARM based, RISC OS native hardware then if you're being pedantic. :-)

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In message <4d21f806b9nospam@segfault.co.uk>
          pv <nospam@segfault.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <e470f6214d.news@itworkshop.invalid>,
>    Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > D'oh! Now I can't talk about my Iyonix or my brother's Mico :( 
> 
> Non ARM based, RISC OS native hardware then if you're being pedantic. :-)

So, no hard drives, memory, flash cards, printers, etc, etc, etc.
Frankly, it's an arbitrary distiction.  I think you have better things
to complain about Paul.

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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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In message <4d21f806b9nospam@segfault.co.uk>
          pv <nospam@segfault.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <e470f6214d.news@itworkshop.invalid>,
>    Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > D'oh! Now I can't talk about my Iyonix or my brother's Mico :( 
> 
> Non ARM based, RISC OS native hardware then if you're being pedantic. :-)

Would csa.extra-cpu be a more sensible location? There are many
parallels between VRPC and what the group was designed for.

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In message <260efe214d.news@itworkshop.invalid>
          Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:

> In message <4d21f806b9nospam@segfault.co.uk>
>           pv <nospam@segfault.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > In article <e470f6214d.news@itworkshop.invalid>,
> >    Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > D'oh! Now I can't talk about my Iyonix or my brother's Mico :( 
> > 
> > Non ARM based, RISC OS native hardware then if you're being pedantic. :-)
> 
> Would csa.extra-cpu be a more sensible location? There are many
> parallels between VRPC and what the group was designed for.
> 
I find it interesting to talk about hardware that works well with VRPC
- let's leave it here. What do other's think?

Rocky
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In article <4d21f4d877nospam@segfault.co.uk>
          pv <nospam@segfault.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <ap.07e90b4d21.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
>    CJE/NCS Sales <sales@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> > New Low Power Laptop & Disappearance of Laptops with Floppy Drives
> 
> > CJE Micro's is pleased to announc the launch of the new Clevo M450 C. The
> > M450 uses the Celeron M320 a low power 'Mobile' processor for extended
> > battery life.
> 
> [Snip]
> 
> To be honest, I don't think it's appropriate to be advertising non-Acorn
> hardware on an Acorn newsgroup.

Especially when its so slow - I'd want a 2 Ghz Centrino if I made the
switch.

-- 
andrew.mcmullon@tesco.net

In article <b42cfb214d.peter@chocky.org>,
   Peter Naulls <peter@chocky.org> wrote:
> So, no hard drives, memory, flash cards, printers, etc, etc, etc.
> Frankly, it's an arbitrary distiction.  I think you have better things to
> complain about Paul.

And I think you have better things to be pedantic about! :-)

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In message <4d21f4d877nospam@segfault.co.uk>
          pv <nospam@segfault.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <ap.07e90b4d21.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
>    CJE/NCS Sales <sales@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> > New Low Power Laptop & Disappearance of Laptops with Floppy Drives
> 
> > CJE Micro's is pleased to announc the launch of the new Clevo M450 C. The
> > M450 uses the Celeron M320 a low power 'Mobile' processor for extended
> > battery life.
> 
> [Snip]
> 
> To be honest, I don't think it's appropriate to be advertising non-Acorn
> hardware on an Acorn newsgroup.
> 
Be fair.  CJE are, at least, offering them with VRPC-SE.

In support of the pedantry, the original post was on
csa.announce, csa.hardware is probably not the best place to follow-up.

-- 
Dave

In article <260efe214d.news@itworkshop.invalid>, Jess
<URL:mailto:phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In message <4d21f806b9nospam@segfault.co.uk>
>           pv <nospam@segfault.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > In article <e470f6214d.news@itworkshop.invalid>,
> >    Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > D'oh! Now I can't talk about my Iyonix or my brother's Mico :( 
> > 
> > Non ARM based, RISC OS native hardware then if you're being pedantic. :-)
> 
> Would csa.extra-cpu be a more sensible location? There are many
> parallels between VRPC and what the group was designed for.

There is an argument to be made for csa.extra-cpu which I tend to agree with.
It is of course the moderator who decides the follow up group!

Personally I would much prefer to be selling a native RISC OS laptop, but

We here at CJE do not sell desktop PC with VRPC only laptops as we won't to
encourage the sale of Native RISC OS hardware i.e. The Iyonix and hoefully
the A9:-)

p.s. We will be closing at 1p.m. today so get your orders in early!

We will be here next Wednesday, Thursday & Friday but only 10.00-5.00
Then back in on the 4th of january

Chris Evans

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Telephone: (01903) 523222          Fax: (01903) 523679
chris@cjemicros.co.uk      http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/
78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 2EN, UK.

In article <69573d224d.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk>, Dave Barnett
<dave@d-barnett.freeserve.co.uk.nospam> wrote:
> In message <4d21f4d877nospam@segfault.co.uk> pv <nospam@segfault.co.uk>
>           wrote:

> > In article <ap.07e90b4d21.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>, CJE/NCS
> >    Sales <sales@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> > > New Low Power Laptop & Disappearance of Laptops with Floppy Drives
> > 
> > > CJE Micro's is pleased to announc the launch of the new Clevo M450
> > > C. The M450 uses the Celeron M320 a low power 'Mobile' processor
> > > for extended battery life.
> > 
> > [Snip]
> > 
> > To be honest, I don't think it's appropriate to be advertising
> > non-Acorn hardware on an Acorn newsgroup.
> > 
> Be fair.  CJE are, at least, offering them with VRPC-SE.

> In support of the pedantry, the original post was on csa.announce,
> csa.hardware is probably not the best place to follow-up.

Which newsgroup would be the best place to follow up a posting about
hardware?

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In article <ant2409481cbpErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>,
   Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:

> There is an argument to be made for csa.extra-cpu which I tend to agree
> with. It is of course the moderator who decides the follow up group!

I didn't know c.s.a.harware was moderated.

And I've no objection to a RISC OS retailer advertising PC hardware here
which will run VA applications. If they can do ARM emulation, then they
have a place in the c.s.a.groups.

Shouldn't the Iyonix be moved to extra-cpu as it's different to the ones
we use on ACORN machines? ;-)

Merry Christmas

Ray D

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Hi,

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, pv wrote:

> In article <ap.07e90b4d21.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
>    CJE/NCS Sales <sales@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:

> > CJE Micro's is pleased to announc the launch of the new Clevo M450 C. The
> > M450 uses the Celeron M320 a low power 'Mobile' processor for extended
> > battery life.
>
> [Snip]
>
> To be honest, I don't think it's appropriate to be advertising non-Acorn
> hardware on an Acorn newsgroup.

 http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=133848&cid=11176061

Have a good Christmas,

-- 
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In article <4d225261fdRay@raydawson.com>,
   Ray Dawson <Ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> I didn't know c.s.a.harware was moderated.

It's not.  The original post was to csa.announce (which is) and it was
created with follow-ups set to csa.hardware.

-- 
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In message <4d224519011@invalid.org.uk>
          Tim Hill <1@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <69573d224d.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk>, Dave Barnett
> <dave@d-barnett.freeserve.co.uk.nospam> wrote:
> > In message <4d21f4d877nospam@segfault.co.uk> pv <nospam@segfault.co.uk>
> >           wrote:
> 
> > > In article <ap.07e90b4d21.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>, CJE/NCS
> > >    Sales <sales@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > New Low Power Laptop & Disappearance of Laptops with Floppy Drives
> > > 
> > > > CJE Micro's is pleased to announc the launch of the new Clevo M450
> > > > C. The M450 uses the Celeron M320 a low power 'Mobile' processor
> > > > for extended battery life.
> > > 
> > > [Snip]
> > > 
> > > To be honest, I don't think it's appropriate to be advertising
> > > non-Acorn hardware on an Acorn newsgroup.
> > > 
> > Be fair.  CJE are, at least, offering them with VRPC-SE.
> 
> > In support of the pedantry, the original post was on csa.announce,
> > csa.hardware is probably not the best place to follow-up.
> 
> Which newsgroup would be the best place to follow up a posting about
> hardware?
> 
Don't know. Someone has suggested csa.extra-cpu, but that would also
bring out the pedants (me?) as there is only one processor ;-(
Csa.misc takes just about anything Acorn or RISC OS related (and often
unrelated), so that may be right for it. RISC OS emulation has to have a
home somewhere.

-- 
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In message <4d225261fdRay@raydawson.com>
          Ray Dawson <Ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <ant2409481cbpErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>,
>    Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> 
[........]
> 
> Shouldn't the Iyonix be moved to extra-cpu as it's different to the ones
> we use on ACORN machines? ;-)
>
How many processors has it got then? ;-)
 
> Merry Christmas
and a happy New Year.

-- 
Dave

In article <4eca61224d.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk>,
   Dave Barnett <dave@d-barnett.freeserve.co.uk.nospam> wrote:
> In message <4d224519011@invalid.org.uk>
>           Tim Hill <1@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

[Re: Announcement of PC portables for sale with VirtaulRPS]

> > Which newsgroup would be the best place to follow up a posting
> > about hardware?

> Don't know. Someone has suggested csa.extra-cpu, but that would
> also bring out the pedants (me?) as there is only one processor ;-(
> Csa.misc takes just about anything Acorn or RISC OS related (and
> often unrelated), so that may be right for it. RISC OS emulation
> has to have a home somewhere.

Hmm, tricky...

cas.announce is of course correct for the announcement, and .misc is
indeed one possible place for follow-ups.  As mentioned by others,
extra-cpu could be used instead, but as I see it would need one of the
following three possibilities: (1) acceptance by users that the name
of the group is now not strictly accurate; (2) a change of the group's
name to include the expanded use; or (3) forget it and create a new
group entirely.  (1) or (2) would no doubt require a change to
extra-cpu's charter, and any of the three would need appropriate
updates to the c.s.a. FAQs.

Overall, it would be easier to follow-up to .misc I suppose, but at
least there are other options if preferred.

-- 
John M Ward : RISC OS computing since 1987, now Iyonix-powered!
Acorn/RISC OS web page: www.john-ward.org.uk/personal/john/computers

In article <4d227050a5john@acornusers.org>
          John M Ward <john@acornusers.org> wrote:

> In article <4eca61224d.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk>,
>    Dave Barnett <dave@d-barnett.freeserve.co.uk.nospam> wrote:
> > In message <4d224519011@invalid.org.uk>
> >           Tim Hill <1@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> [Snip]
> 
> [Re: Announcement of PC portables for sale with VirtaulRPS]
> 
> > > Which newsgroup would be the best place to follow up a posting
> > > about hardware?
> 
> > Don't know. Someone has suggested csa.extra-cpu, but that would
> > also bring out the pedants (me?) as there is only one processor ;-(
> > Csa.misc takes just about anything Acorn or RISC OS related (and
> > often unrelated), so that may be right for it. RISC OS emulation
> > has to have a home somewhere.
> 
> Hmm, tricky...
> 
> cas.announce is of course correct for the announcement, and .misc is
> indeed one possible place for follow-ups.  As mentioned by others,
> extra-cpu could be used instead, but...

So what's wrong with setting up a new group for emulated RISC OS?

Unless all the other groups were to be changed it would be sensibly
called comp.sys.acorn.virtual



-- 
andrew.mcmullon@tesco.net

In article <354973224d.andy@andrew.mcmullon@tesco.net>,
   Andy McMullon <andrew.mcmullon@tesco.net> wrote:
> In article <4d227050a5john@acornusers.org>
>           John M Ward <john@acornusers.org> wrote:

> > In article <4eca61224d.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk>,
> >    Dave Barnett <dave@d-barnett.freeserve.co.uk.nospam> wrote:
> > > In message <4d224519011@invalid.org.uk>
> > >           Tim Hill <1@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > [Snip]
> > 
> > [Re: Announcement of PC portables for sale with VirtaulRPS]
> > 
> > > > Which newsgroup would be the best place to follow up a posting
> > > > about hardware?
> > 
> > > Don't know. Someone has suggested csa.extra-cpu, but that would
> > > also bring out the pedants (me?) as there is only one processor
> > > ;-( Csa.misc takes just about anything Acorn or RISC OS related
> > > (and often unrelated), so that may be right for it. RISC OS
> > > emulation has to have a home somewhere.
> > 
> > Hmm, tricky...
> > 
> > cas.announce is of course correct for the announcement, and .misc
> > is indeed one possible place for follow-ups.  As mentioned by
> > others, extra-cpu could be used instead, but...

> So what's wrong with setting up a new group for emulated RISC OS?

I don't know -- that was my option (3) after all.  It is for those
more conversant with these matters to comment on the suggestion, but
it is one possibly way forward.

> Unless all the other groups were to be changed it would be sensibly
> called comp.sys.acorn.virtual

It is probably about time that the "acorn" bit were to be removed
altogether anyway, so this might be the occasion for an overhaul of
the whole structure and including such recent developments as
VirtualAcorn (both types) in the revised structure's remit would most
sensibly be done at the same time.

This is one reason I have taken this opportunity to mention both these
matters together, for which I thank you for giving me the perfect
excuse  ;-)

-- 
John M Ward : RISC OS computing since 1987, now Iyonix-powered!
Acorn/RISC OS web page: www.john-ward.org.uk/personal/john/computers

On 24 Dec, in message <Pine.SOL.4.44.0412241554150.3615-100000@primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk>
  Chris Williams <esvmd@warwick.ac.uk> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, pv wrote:
>
>> In article <ap.07e90b4d21.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
>>    CJE/NCS Sales <sales@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> > CJE Micro's is pleased to announc the launch of the new Clevo M450 C. The
>> > M450 uses the Celeron M320 a low power 'Mobile' processor for extended
>> > battery life.
>>
>> [Snip]
>>
>> To be honest, I don't think it's appropriate to be advertising non-Acorn
>> hardware on an Acorn newsgroup.
>
> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=133848&cid=11176061
>
>Have a good Christmas,

Knowing that my job's safe, absolutively!

Yours,

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In article <1e0d62224d.Dave@davebarnett.me.uk>, dave@d-
barnett.freeserve.co.uk.nospam says...
> In message <4d225261fdRay@raydawson.com>
>           Ray Dawson <Ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > In article <ant2409481cbpErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>,
> >    Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> [........]
> > 
> > Shouldn't the Iyonix be moved to extra-cpu as it's different to the ones
> > we use on ACORN machines? ;-)
> >
> How many processors has it got then? ;-)

Two main ones including the GPU. ;-)

> > Merry Christmas
> and a happy New Year.

I'll second that.

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