I have a folder of photos taken by different cameras on the same day.
I want to put them in order then rename them for a slide show.
I vaguely remember a program that let you move them up & down.
Oddly when !Thump is asked to order them by date the last become 
first?
Any suggestions?
Thanks in anticipation

Chris

-- 
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Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk
Iyonix ARM XScale computer Risc OS 5.11

In article <ac5905874f.Chris@Chris.skipton.demon.co.uk>,
   C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I have a folder of photos taken by different cameras on the same day.
> I want to put them in order then rename them for a slide show.
> I vaguely remember a program that let you move them up & down.
> Oddly when !Thump is asked to order them by date the last become 
> first?
> Any suggestions?

Two ways to try, assuming the file datestamps haven't been altered:

Firstly put copies altogether in one folder. Display them in date order
using the filer. They will be in date order latest first. Then:

        Method 1: Copy them one at a time, starting at the bottom of the
filer window, into an archive. They will then physically be in the order
you want them in the archive file.

Present the archive file to your slideshow as if it were a directory. It
will (probably) display them in the order they appear in the archive.

        Method 2: Restamp each file, starting at the bottom of the filer
window, using the filer Stamp menu item. Each restamped item will leap to
the top, so keep restamping the last item until all are done.
Users of more primitive OS versions could use a utility such as StampIt.

The files should now be in the order you require in the filer window.
Rename them individually starting aa/jpg, ab/jpg and so on (tedious!).

John

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In message <4f870aa498UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>
          "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <ac5905874f.Chris@Chris.skipton.demon.co.uk>,
>    C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> I have a folder of photos taken by different cameras on the same day.
>> I want to put them in order then rename them for a slide show.
>> I vaguely remember a program that let you move them up & down.
>> Oddly when !Thump is asked to order them by date the last become
>> first?
>> Any suggestions?

> Two ways to try, assuming the file datestamps haven't been altered:

> Firstly put copies altogether in one folder. Display them in date order
> using the filer. They will be in date order latest first. Then:

>         Method 1: Copy them one at a time, starting at the bottom of the
> filer window, into an archive. They will then physically be in the order
> you want them in the archive file.

> Present the archive file to your slideshow as if it were a directory. It
> will (probably) display them in the order they appear in the archive.

>         Method 2: Restamp each file, starting at the bottom of the filer
> window, using the filer Stamp menu item. Each restamped item will leap to
> the top, so keep restamping the last item until all are done.
> Users of more primitive OS versions could use a utility such as StampIt.

> The files should now be in the order you require in the filer window.
> Rename them individually starting aa/jpg, ab/jpg and so on (tedious!).

> John

I will experiment with this.
I forgot to mention some have been edited in Photodesk & have lost the 
original time stamp.

Chris

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Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk
Iyonix ARM XScale computer Risc OS 5.11

On 28 Mar 2008, C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <4f870aa498UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>
>           "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> > Method 2: Restamp each file, starting at the bottom of the filer
> > window, using the filer Stamp menu item. Each restamped item will
> > leap to the top, so keep restamping the last item until all are
> > done. Users of more primitive OS versions could use a utility such
> > as StampIt.
> >
> > The files should now be in the order you require in the filer
> > window. Rename them individually starting aa/jpg, ab/jpg and so on
> > (tedious!).

No tedium with http://tigger.orpheusweb.co.uk/programs/Rename.spk which
easily allows files to be re-named, say, pic_001/jpg, pic_002/jpg, etc.

[snip]

> I forgot to mention some have been edited in Photodesk & have lost the
> original time stamp.

Since only you know the correct order, you will need to re-stamp all the
files, as John suggested. Next time, try useing Rename before editing.

Tony

In message <cd1d14874f.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
          Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 28 Mar 2008, C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <4f870aa498UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>
>>           "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> [snip]

>>> Method 2: Restamp each file, starting at the bottom of the filer
>>> window, using the filer Stamp menu item. Each restamped item will
>>> leap to the top, so keep restamping the last item until all are
>>> done. Users of more primitive OS versions could use a utility such
>>> as StampIt.
>>>
>>> The files should now be in the order you require in the filer
>>> window. Rename them individually starting aa/jpg, ab/jpg and so on
>>> (tedious!).

> No tedium with http://tigger.orpheusweb.co.uk/programs/Rename.spk which
> easily allows files to be re-named, say, pic_001/jpg, pic_002/jpg, etc.

> [snip]

>> I forgot to mention some have been edited in Photodesk & have lost the
>> original time stamp.

> Since only you know the correct order, you will need to re-stamp all the
> files, as John suggested. Next time, try useing Rename before editing.

> Tony


Variations does a good selective rename job very quickly... might be 
worth a try.



-- 
Dave Wisnia, Leeds, UK

In article <ac5905874f.Chris@Chris.skipton.demon.co.uk>, C J Craig
<Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I have a folder of photos taken by different cameras on the same day. I
> want to put them in order then rename them for a slide show. I vaguely
> remember a program that let you move them up & down. Oddly when !Thump
> is asked to order them by date the last become first? Any suggestions?

Use !EXIFinfo to rename the images. It can extract the date/time info and
build a new filename based on that, the camera used and original
filename. i.e.,

2007-07-20T123824_DMC-FZ8_P1000392/JPG

http://www.photodesk.iconbar.com/ for the program

(Currently listed under quick links on the left)

You'll also need the format files from here:

http://mistymornings.net/info/exifinfo.html

HTH

T

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In article <ac5905874f.Chris@Chris.skipton.demon.co.uk>,
   C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I have a folder of photos taken by different cameras on the same day.
> I want to put them in order then rename them for a slide show.
> I vaguely remember a program that let you move them up & down.

I have a couple of apps which may help.

The simpler is !PegMerge which copies JPEGs as you drag them in: drag them
in the order you wish and they will appear renamed in the destination
directory.

It's available at www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

The other app (PeggyMix) is more "graphic", but relies on ChangeFSI, and
therefore doesn't work with the Iyonix: I've never been able to find a fix
to that. Email me if you would like to see it.

HTH,

-- 
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kell at mighty dot me dot uk (expand)

On 30 Mar 2008  Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <ac5905874f.Chris@Chris.skipton.demon.co.uk>,
>    C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> I have a folder of photos taken by different cameras on the same day.
>> I want to put them in order then rename them for a slide show.
>> I vaguely remember a program that let you move them up & down.

> I have a couple of apps which may help.

> The simpler is !PegMerge which copies JPEGs as you drag them in: drag them
> in the order you wish and they will appear renamed in the destination
> directory.

> It's available at www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

Sounds interesting, and I could have done with this a couple of years 
ago. However, running it here (RO 5.13) seems to do nothing; no icon 
bar, nothing in the Tasks listing (1). Is this line in the !Run file:

|Error this software is broken - nag kell

perhaps trying to tell us something? :-)

(1) Apart from leaving a file open, as I've just discovered!

With best wishes,

Peter.

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In message <745b47884f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
          Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 30 Mar 2008  Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>> In article <ac5905874f.Chris@Chris.skipton.demon.co.uk>,
>>    C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I have a folder of photos taken by different cameras on the same day.
>>> I want to put them in order then rename them for a slide show.
>>> I vaguely remember a program that let you move them up & down.

>> I have a couple of apps which may help.

>> The simpler is !PegMerge which copies JPEGs as you drag them in: drag them
>> in the order you wish and they will appear renamed in the destination
>> directory.

>> It's available at www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

> Sounds interesting, and I could have done with this a couple of years
> ago. However, running it here (RO 5.13) seems to do nothing; no icon
> bar, nothing in the Tasks listing (1). Is this line in the !Run file:

> |Error this software is broken - nag kell

> perhaps trying to tell us something? :-)

> (1) Apart from leaving a file open, as I've just discovered!

> With best wishes,

> Peter.

Similer problem her
Error "End of file in "renumber" at line 850?

Thought ChangeFSI worked on Iyonix?
Would be interested in trying Peggymix

Chris




-- 
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Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk
Iyonix ARM XScale computer Risc OS 5.11

In article <745b47884f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
   Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> > It's available at www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

> Sounds interesting, and I could have done with this a couple of years 
> ago. However, running it here (RO 5.13) seems to do nothing; no icon 
> bar, nothing in the Tasks listing (1). Is this line in the !Run file:

> |Error this software is broken - nag kell

> perhaps trying to tell us something? :-)

Ha! Ghosts from the past: I used to have an office full of people using
RISC OS, using many of my own applications. However that line is REM'ed
out, it's not doing anything. (The '|' at the beginning is the same as a
REM in BASIC.)

> (1) Apart from leaving a file open, as I've just discovered!

Yeah, it was relying on the existence of a file in the choices directory,
sorry. Fixed now: www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

-- 
Kell Gatherer
kell at mighty dot me dot uk (expand)

In article <e2525a884f.Chris@Chris.skipton.demon.co.uk>,
   C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Similer problem her
> Error "End of file in "renumber" at line 850?

Sorry, fixed now, hopefully. Try again.

> Thought ChangeFSI worked on Iyonix?

No, it doesn't. I still have a few apps which relied on ChangeFSI which I
can't use on the Iyonix.

> Would be interested in trying Peggymix

Well, after embarassing start with PeggyMerge, I'm a wee bit reluctant.
But email me if you don't mind a bit of rough :-D

-- 
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kell at mighty dot me dot uk (expand)

In article <4f8872607bnospam@nospam.invalid>,
   Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> > Thought ChangeFSI worked on Iyonix?

> No, it doesn't. I still have a few apps which relied on ChangeFSI which I
> can't use on the Iyonix.

In what way doesn't it work? Seems fine here (1.21 - 7 Feb 2003).

John

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On 31 Mar 2008  Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

[snip]

> Yeah, it was relying on the existence of a file in the choices directory,
> sorry. Fixed now: www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

Sorry, but it's still giving the "end of file" error when I try it 
here. :-(

With best wishes,

Peter.

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In article <4f888f0a7fUCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>,
   John Williams (News) <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4f8872607bnospam@nospam.invalid>,
>    Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> > > Thought ChangeFSI worked on Iyonix?

> > No, it doesn't. I still have a few apps which relied on ChangeFSI
> > which I can't use on the Iyonix.

> In what way doesn't it work? Seems fine here (1.21 - 7 Feb 2003).

Maybe the app does, but not its command-line usage.

My applications use ChangeFSI to, for example, create thumbnails, so the
code might read:

SYS"Wimp_StartTask","<ChangeFSI$Dir>.ChangeFSI "+input$+" "+output$+" 28r
120:0 -lock -nomode"

That code works on a RiscPC, not on an Iyonix, it's as simple as that.

It's not just my applications, there are others. Something got broke when
they 32-bitted it.

-- 
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kell at mighty dot me dot uk (expand)

In article <4ba694884f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
   Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> > Yeah, it was relying on the existence of a file in the choices
> > directory, sorry. Fixed now: www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

> Sorry, but it's still giving the "end of file" error when I try it 
> here. :-(

Sorry, but I've been over the code and tested and retested but I can't
make the above happen any more.

Maybe it's a cache thing: I've uploaded a copy to
www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge2.zip

This is IDENTICAL to the previous, I've only changed the name of the zip
file to ensure you're getting the right file.

If that still doesn't work, I'll change the way it deals with the choices
file.

-- 
Kell Gatherer
kell at mighty dot me dot uk (expand)

In article <4f88b12e9bnospam@nospam.invalid>,
   Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > In what way doesn't it work? Seems fine here (1.21 - 7 Feb 2003).

> Maybe the app does, but not its command-line usage.

> My applications use ChangeFSI to, for example, create thumbnails, so the
> code might read:

> SYS"Wimp_StartTask","<ChangeFSI$Dir>.ChangeFSI "+input$+" "+output$+" 28r
> 120:0 -lock -nomode"

> That code works on a RiscPC, not on an Iyonix, it's as simple as that.

> It's not just my applications, there are others. Something got broke when
> they 32-bitted it.

Pic_Index uses CFSI as follows, setting the command line as a variable:

        cmnd$="<ChangeFSI$Dir>.ChangeFSI "+source$+".gallery."+file$+
        " "+"<Wimp$ScrapDir>.Pic_Index.ThumbsTemp "+tail$+scale$+tailend$

which is then set as an alias before being executed by SYS"Wimp_StartTask",
and that still works fine.

I do it in that convoluted way to trap too-long paths after they've been
expanded.

If you'd like to e-mail me something that doesn't work, I'd be pleased to
look at it. As long as you're using Pluto it /should/ get through. Set an
ack just in case.

John

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In message <4f88b26efbnospam@nospam.invalid>
          Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <4ba694884f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
>    Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Yeah, it was relying on the existence of a file in the choices
>>> directory, sorry. Fixed now: www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

>> Sorry, but it's still giving the "end of file" error when I try it
>> here. :-(

> Sorry, but I've been over the code and tested and retested but I can't
> make the above happen any more.

> Maybe it's a cache thing: I've uploaded a copy to
> www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge2.zip

> This is IDENTICAL to the previous, I've only changed the name of the zip
> file to ensure you're getting the right file.

> If that still doesn't work, I'll change the way it deals with the choices
> file.

Works fine with my Iyonix 5.11

-- 
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In message <4f88b26efbnospam@nospam.invalid>
          Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <4ba694884f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
>    Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Yeah, it was relying on the existence of a file in the choices
>>> directory, sorry. Fixed now: www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

>> Sorry, but it's still giving the "end of file" error when I try it
>> here. :-(

> Sorry, but I've been over the code and tested and retested but I can't
> make the above happen any more.

> Maybe it's a cache thing: I've uploaded a copy to
> www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge2.zip

> This is IDENTICAL to the previous, I've only changed the name of the zip
> file to ensure you're getting the right file.

> If that still doesn't work, I'll change the way it deals with the choices
> file.

Same error "End of file"

Delighted everyone is rallying round to get such a useful utility 
working. Thanks to all

Chris


-- 
C J Craig

Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk
Iyonix ARM XScale computer Risc OS 5.11

On 31 Mar 2008  Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <4ba694884f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
>    Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Yeah, it was relying on the existence of a file in the choices
>>> directory, sorry. Fixed now: www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

>> Sorry, but it's still giving the "end of file" error when I try it
>> here. :-(

> Sorry, but I've been over the code and tested and retested but I can't
> make the above happen any more.

> Maybe it's a cache thing: I've uploaded a copy to
> www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge2.zip

> This is IDENTICAL to the previous, I've only changed the name of the zip
> file to ensure you're getting the right file.

> If that still doesn't work, I'll change the way it deals with the choices
> file.

Still not working here, alas! Little error message in the top left of 
the screen: End of file in "Renumber" at line 850.

RISC OS 5.13, by the way.

I might not have a chance to do more with it for a day or so, as we 
have family visiting ATM.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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In article <1ab6c8884f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
   Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> Still not working here, alas! Little error message in the top left of 
> the screen: End of file in "Renumber" at line 850.

<bangs head against wall> Still can't reproduce this!
Anyway I've changed the way it saves the default choices, maybe this time
<crossed fingers>:
http://www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

You are deleting the original each time aren't you?

Ahaaaaah!!!!  

Got it: the original, corrupt, choices file is still in place.
Silly me.

OK, the above version checks for a choices file of a different name, and
if it's not there, saves a default one.

The file <Choices>.Peggy.renumber may be deleted (in fact if you do that,
there's no need to reload the new version). The new choices file is called
"pegnumber".

-- 
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kell at mighty dot me dot uk (expand)

In article <b5c4c2884f.Chris@Chris.skipton.demon.co.uk>,
   C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Same error "End of file"

Yes, as I've explained to Dr Young, I've been silly (no comments please).
The app looks to see if the choices file is there, and if it is, loads it.
However you still have the choices file from before, which is broken.

Delete <choices>.Peggy.renumber and re-run the app, it should work fine.

If not <sigh> then go to www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip which
is a slightly different version which uses a different name for the
choices file.

-- 
Kell Gatherer
kell at mighty dot me dot uk (expand)

On 31 Mar 2008  Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <1ab6c8884f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
>    Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Still not working here, alas! Little error message in the top left of
>> the screen: End of file in "Renumber" at line 850.

> <bangs head against wall> Still can't reproduce this!
> Anyway I've changed the way it saves the default choices, maybe this time
> <crossed fingers>:
> http://www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

> You are deleting the original each time aren't you?

> Ahaaaaah!!!!

> Got it: the original, corrupt, choices file is still in place.
> Silly me.

> OK, the above version checks for a choices file of a different name, and
> if it's not there, saves a default one.

> The file <Choices>.Peggy.renumber may be deleted (in fact if you do that,
> there's no need to reload the new version). The new choices file is called
> "pegnumber".

Yes, that's done it. Very many thanks!

With best wishes,

Peter.

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In message <4f88cfe0a7nospam@nospam.invalid>
          Kell Gatherer <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <1ab6c8884f.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
>    Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Still not working here, alas! Little error message in the top left of
>> the screen: End of file in "Renumber" at line 850.

> <bangs head against wall> Still can't reproduce this!
> Anyway I've changed the way it saves the default choices, maybe this time
> <crossed fingers>:
> http://www.locationworks.com/kang/peggymerge.zip

> You are deleting the original each time aren't you?

> Ahaaaaah!!!!

> Got it: the original, corrupt, choices file is still in place.
> Silly me.

> OK, the above version checks for a choices file of a different name, and
> if it's not there, saves a default one.

> The file <Choices>.Peggy.renumber may be deleted (in fact if you do that,
> there's no need to reload the new version). The new choices file is called
> "pegnumber".

Great both programs work on Iyonix, since I deleted the choices file,
Many thanks
Chris

-- 
C J Craig

Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk
Iyonix ARM XScale computer Risc OS 5.11