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Acorn NC's

Hi,
Can someone tell me what i will need to use an acorn NC?
Will I need NFS, DHCP and BootP servers to use it, or will It just need to
be connected to a network..?
I know that with some Nc's, you need all that..but with the acorn one is it
different? Ive seen some working, and they boot up RO 3.7 as if it was on a
rom, like other acorns.
Does anyone know how they work?
Thanks,
Alex =)


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On 14 Dec, in message <brhgvi$qok$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>
  "Alex White" <littlewhitey1991@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>Can someone tell me what i will need to use an acorn NC?
>Will I need NFS, DHCP and BootP servers to use it, or will It just need to
>be connected to a network..?
>I know that with some Nc's, you need all that..but with the acorn one is it
>different? Ive seen some working, and they boot up RO 3.7 as if it was on a
>rom, like other acorns.

IIRC it's 3.6 and that is on ROM.
But they need to find (IIRC again) !NFSBoot or is it !NCBoot and they
can only do that if you connect them to a network and provide DHCP and
NFS. I've had no problems with (IIRC) the ISC DHCP stuff and the
NFS/portmap stuff. 

Unfortunately I would be able to provide more detailed information if
the box which does the DHCP and NFS stuff was working :-( .

Yours,

Phil L.
-- 
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  to have a happy normal relationship. We're doomed.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer - (Season 1)
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nospam8024 (635)
12/14/2003 4:14:37 PM
In article <c944c0604c.philip@philipnet.com>, Philip Ludlam
<URL:mailto:nospam@philipnet.com> wrote:
> On 14 Dec, in message <brhgvi$qok$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>
>   "Alex White" <littlewhitey1991@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >Can someone tell me what i will need to use an acorn NC?
> >Will I need NFS, DHCP and BootP servers to use it, or will It just need to
> >be connected to a network..?
> >I know that with some Nc's, you need all that..but with the acorn one is it
> >different? Ive seen some working, and they boot up RO 3.7 as if it was on a
> >rom, like other acorns.
> 
> IIRC it's 3.6 and that is on ROM.
> But they need to find (IIRC again) !NFSBoot or is it !NCBoot and they
> can only do that if you connect them to a network and provide DHCP and
> NFS. I've had no problems with (IIRC) the ISC DHCP stuff and the
> NFS/portmap stuff.

The above is only partially true. Original Acorn NCs booted from a
RiscPC running a BSD variant. This path is continued by Precedence, who
now supply them with an Intel-powered BSD server. Acorn Retail (as
opposed to Education) developed the TopCat variant to boot from NT and
run as a Citrix client. The original (Oracle) concept was for a
non-Windows thin client. Customer demand was for Windows capability, in
the main.
> 
> Unfortunately I would be able to provide more detailed information if
> the box which does the DHCP and NFS stuff was working :-( .
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Phil L.

-- 
Michael Gilbert: in his own write

OK, so there's the Trident in Bangor

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mgilbert (427)
12/15/2003 7:51:23 AM
"Philip Ludlam" <nospam@philipnet.com> wrote in message
news:c944c0604c.philip@philipnet.com...
 > IIRC it's 3.6 and that is on ROM.
> But they need to find (IIRC again) !NFSBoot or is it !NCBoot and they
> can only do that if you connect them to a network and provide DHCP and
> NFS. I've had no problems with (IIRC) the ISC DHCP stuff and the
> NFS/portmap stuff.

Well, Ive Googled and found out that its !NFSBoot, not !NCBoot.
Can you..sort of guide me through what I should do to set it up, or someone
else if they know what to do :)
Ive done something with my NFS and DHCP proggys, and I think what I need is
a boot file, which should be the !NFSBoot.
Does anyone know where I can download !NFSBoot, or could someone email
it/upload it somewhere?
Thanks!
-Alex



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12/15/2003 4:26:17 PM
On 15 Dec, in message <brknam$31q$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>
  "Alex White" <littlewhitey1991@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Philip Ludlam" <nospam@philipnet.com> wrote in message
>news:c944c0604c.philip@philipnet.com...
> > IIRC it's 3.6 and that is on ROM.
>> But they need to find (IIRC again) !NFSBoot or is it !NCBoot and they
>> can only do that if you connect them to a network and provide DHCP and
>> NFS. I've had no problems with (IIRC) the ISC DHCP stuff and the
>> NFS/portmap stuff.
>
>Well, Ive Googled and found out that its !NFSBoot, not !NCBoot.
>Can you..sort of guide me through what I should do to set it up, or someone
>else if they know what to do :)
>Ive done something with my NFS and DHCP proggys, and I think what I need is
>a boot file, which should be the !NFSBoot.
>Does anyone know where I can download !NFSBoot, or could someone email
>it/upload it somewhere?

To check, in the directory which is exported under NFS create the file:
  !NFSBoot,feb

with the text:
  Error 0 Here!

And then ensure that the NC boots and display the error box with the
message "Here!". It should also beep if you've got sound working.

You may need to play with the DHCP settings - ensure that you're giving
the NC the IP address of the NFS server as the 'boot from'/'next server'
(or whatever) DHCP setting.

Then grab uniboot from http://acorn.riscos.com (I can't remeber where
exactly it is on the site) remove !NFSBoot,feb and then extract the
directory !Boot from the archive. You will lose the RISC OS filetype
information unless you'e got a networked RISC OS machine handy or a
copy of unzip which understands the extra information. Once completed,
rename !Boot to !NFSBoot . Remember that NC's don't really have a
desktop so you have to give it something to do. i.e. run an application
or drop into BASIC (with *BASIC).

Unfortunately you are on your own unless you know your way round the
!Boot structure (which IIRC is detailed somewhere on
http://www.vigay.com ) and know the Acorn Obey files :-( .

Yours,

Phil L.
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12/18/2003 10:48:12 PM
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Hi, So nice to 'enter the Zonnon-tree' at http://www.zonnon.ethz.ch using only native-oberon tools, with no trouble. No crap like 'must enable cookies' & unwarranted *.pdf etc. formats. It's the minimalist, clear format eg. > Examples in Zonnon for Algorithms & Data Structures book > Zip archive (40 KB size). ie. showing the download-file-size, which makes for Swiss quality ? I seek a highest level [overview] of Zonnon's aims to evaluate if I should spend resources investigating further. Let's try and analyse the provided description: > It retains an emphasis on simplicity, clear syntax and > separation of concerns whilst focusing on concurrency and ease of > composition and expression. Q - How does it acheive better 'ease of composition' than existing Wirthian languages ? Q - What is an example of 'ease of expression' and how is this achieved ? > Unification of abstractions is at the heart > of its design and this is reflected in its conceptual model based on > modules, objects, definitions and implementations. Q - I'm enthusiastic about any 'unification of concepts' because it reduces apparent chaos to managable pieces; but where can I read about this at a high level, without doing all the student exercises ? > Zonnon offers a new > computing model based on active objects with their interaction defined by > syntax controlled dialogs. It also introdu...

Street Fighter 4 is being developed for / runs on Taito's Type X2 arcade hardware
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9675548&postcount=372 This is the first time a new Street Fighter game has been developed on PC-based hardware. Street Fighter II, Super Street Fighter II and Street Fighter III were developed for Capcom's proprietary CPS, CPS2 and CPS3 arcade architectures, respectively. Taito Type X2, like PCs, can have different CPU/GPU configurations. specs: http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationalevents/computex2007/JARS/Thursday/DSCF4004_cropped-big.jpg That means that one day, if Street Fighter 4 isn't officially ported to PC in arcade-exact form (and console versions won't be 100% exact) at least emulation on PC should be easy. ...

[News] Microsoft's 'Hardware Department' Loses Another Executive
Another Dell executive departs ,----[ Quote ] | Dell is under investigation by the Securities and Exchange | Commission for accounting issues. `---- http://news.com.com/2061-10810_3-6158930.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&subj=news While on the issue of accounting issues, add Apple and Intel to this pool. Yesterday: Dell's "Express Upgrade" to Vista not so "express" ,----[ Quote ] | Dell-using Vista hopefuls are expressing their frustration at | Dell's continued delays and problems with their Vista upgrades. `---- http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/12/...

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