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Hard Disc on Iyonix

The hard disc on my Iyonix has started to produce 'Disc error 13
at ...' messages. I need to purchase a replacement drive of the same
or similar type so that I can have them both connected at the same
time to copy stuff from the original to the new drive. What is it that
I should purchase please?

DIscKnight gives the map a clean bill so I'll do nothing to the
existing HDD until I've copied it all off (and made a backup first).
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On 14 May 2012, svrsig <chris@svrsig.org> wrote:

[snip]

> DIscKnight gives the map a clean bill so I'll do nothing to the
> existing HDD until I've copied it all off (and made a backup first).

Disknight checks the directory structure. To find disc errors you need
to *verify

Tony



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old_coaster (1286)
5/14/2012 10:42:56 PM
In article
<c3faca44-e161-43e6-95db-4d378cfba496@3g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
   svrsig <chris@svrsig.org> wrote:
> The hard disc on my Iyonix has started to produce 'Disc error 13
> at ...' messages. I need to purchase a replacement drive of the same
> or similar type so that I can have them both connected at the same
> time to copy stuff from the original to the new drive. What is it that
> I should purchase please?

This type of error may also be due to the power supply going off.

-- 
Chris Johnson
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news104 (799)
5/14/2012 10:57:51 PM
Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> wrote:

> In article
> <c3faca44-e161-43e6-95db-4d378cfba496@3g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
>    svrsig <chris@svrsig.org> wrote:
> > The hard disc on my Iyonix has started to produce 'Disc error 13
> > at ...' messages.
> 
> This type of error may also be due to the power supply going off.

IME this error is very often due to the power supply going off.

I've had disc errors like this very regularly over the last few years. I'm
still using the same disc (which has also been transplanted several times
into a RPC without any problems or errors) and now that I've got a stable
PSU in the Iyonix I no longer see the errors.

Alan

-- 
RISC OS - you know it makes cents
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spamhater1 (1060)
5/15/2012 8:29:23 AM
In article <c3faca44-e161-43e6-95db-4d378cfba496@3g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
svrsig <URL:mailto:chris@svrsig.org> wrote:
> The hard disc on my Iyonix has started to produce 'Disc error 13
> at ...' messages. I need to purchase a replacement drive of the same
> or similar type so that I can have them both connected at the same
> time to copy stuff from the original to the new drive. What is it that
> I should purchase please?
> 
> DIscKnight gives the map a clean bill so I'll do nothing to the
> existing HDD until I've copied it all off (and made a backup first).

As others have said it is worth checking the PSU.

Which ever it is we have stocks of suitable hard drives and PSUs!
http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/

If you can't work out which is the problem we could hire you both with you
returning the unneaded part and pay for the kept part!

n.b. not all ATX PSUs are quiet or suitable for an Iyonix, most IDE hard
drives are o.k. but all!

Chris Evans

-- 
CJE Micro's / 4D                'RISC OS Specialists'
Telephone: 01903 523222             Fax: 01903 523679
chris@cjemicros.co.uk     http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/
78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex,     BN11 2EN
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chris8168 (2937)
5/15/2012 9:12:26 AM
In message <528ff4db73chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>
          Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> wrote:

> In article
> <c3faca44-e161-43e6-95db-4d378cfba496@3g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
>    svrsig <chris@svrsig.org> wrote:
>> The hard disc on my Iyonix has started to produce 'Disc error 13
>> at ...' messages. I need to purchase a replacement drive of the same
>> or similar type so that I can have them both connected at the same
>> time to copy stuff from the original to the new drive. What is it that
>> I should purchase please?

> This type of error may also be due to the power supply going off.

I think it is, my Iyonix gave the same error message last week, when I 
acccidently turned it off by putting my foot on the rocker switch on 
my surge protector, turned it back on and that message appeared, but 
just ignore it and reboot properly and it doesn't come back again.

cheers
Matthew




-- 

 Message sent from an IYONIX www.iyonix.com
 Using RISC OS 5 : RISC OS Open Ltd www.riscosopen.co.uk
 
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mt65 (154)
5/17/2012 8:09:56 PM
On 17/05/2012 21:09, Matthew Thompson wrote:
> I think it is, my Iyonix gave the same error message last week, when I
> acccidently turned it off by putting my foot on the rocker switch on
> my surge protector, turned it back on and that message appeared, but
> just ignore it and reboot properly and it doesn't come back again.

No! Never ignore disc errors, it's the disc equivalent of a heart 
attack, it may have survived this one, but the next could mean its a gorner.

Always do a Verify (either from the drive's menu or the command line) 
and if you get any errors, then replace the disc immediately.

---druck


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OK, here's the scenario. Dual boot box consisting of a P4P-800-E DLX, Nvidia video card, printer, scanner, bells, whistles, and it's something I'm proud of. The Linux side is running Slack 10.2 with a custom 2.6.16 kernel and gware Gnome for the desktop. Mrs. Phist decided to buy me a wireless keyboard and mouse since my old ones are almost five years old and I've beaten them all to hell. She's not the most tech savvy person in the world and just went to Best Buy and got a Microsoft keyboard/mouse combo for about $40 CAN. Not a bad deal, but I'm going from PS2 wired k...

Hard disc dying?
Today the hard disc on the A5000 at the Wandle Industrial Museum (which is, not, I may add, an exhibit!) displayed worrying behaviour, spontaneously spinning down in the middle of print spooling and then failing to spin up at all when the computer was re-started, causing it to hang for a long time mid-boot and when the hard disc icon was clicked upon. I took the top off the machine and tried unplugging and reseating the power supply lead to the hard disc, which was all I could think of, and the machine did then start up properly the next time I tried it, but I don't know if this was a coincidence or not. The computer is due to be 'upgraded' to a Windows machine in the next few months and I was relying on being able to process the data into a lowest-common-denominator form for transfer, e.g. CSV, HTML, plain text etc. I have a spare hard disc of suitable size (albeit of similar age to the original). Is the defect likely to be in the power supply from the motherboard or in the disc mechanism? i.e. will replacing the hard disc improve reliability or not? There is only 58Mb used space on the disc at present, some of which is unnecessary software -- for example, DigitalCD on a machine where the sound doesn't work -- and I am hoping that I can probably keep the old hard disc running for long enough to copy the data across if required. -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == We prefer to speak evil of ourselves than not speak of oursel...

Hard disk for Acorn A3000
Hi, Please can anyone tell me where I can get a new or second-hand hard disk for my A3000 from? I read article in the Acorn User about A3000, and I'm therefore interested although I don't really know how easy it is to fit one. Regards Paolo Paolo Borzini wrote: > Hi, > Please can anyone tell me where I can get a new or second-hand > hard disk for my A3000 from? > I read article in the Acorn User about A3000, > and I'm therefore interested although I don't > really know how easy it is to fit one. > Any old 2 1/2" HDD will do, the sort for laptops. You'll want a smallish one though, 512Mb Max I believe. You'll also need a 2 1/2" cable. Cheers, -- Russ Tarbox Remove THELID to reply by e-mail In article <403a2e5e$0$16927$afc38c87@news.easynet.co.uk>, Russ Tarbox <russ-ebay@THELIDuserve.co.uk> wrote: > Any old 2 1/2" HDD will do, the sort for laptops. > You'll want a smallish one though, 512Mb Max I believe. You'll also need > a 2 1/2" cable. You forgot about the IDE filing system and interface, Russ. Only the A3020 has inbuilt support, the 3000 and 3010 will require an interface card of some sort. Hope this is of some help, John -- John Williams, Wirral, Merseyside, UK - no attachments to these addresses! change user to johnrwilliams for speediest attention! Who is John Williams? http://www.picindex.info/author/ In message <2a057948.0402230652.da56c4...

Second hard disc questions
I've been using a second hard drive on an Ultra 5 (Sol 10) for a while [1], but am setting up an x86 box (Sol 10) to use instead and would like to move the disc from one machine to the other whilst keeping the data intact. I've a couple of questions. 1) Is it ok to move a UFS formatted disc from Sparc to x86? Does it work? 2) Are entries in /dev/dsk automatically created when discs are detected or do I have to manually add entries? Peter [1] The ultra 5's graphics output has gone wibbly, an IDE channel died a while back and there were 'motherboard' warnings popping up o...

SCSI Hard Disc #2
Can I confirm that an HD should spin up if powered, but the SCSI bus not plugged in? -- *You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. On 12 Dec 2004 "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > Can I confirm that an HD should spin up if powered, but the SCSI bus not > plugged in? Usually. ---druck -- The ARM Club Free Software - http://www.armclub.org.uk/free/ The 32bit Conversions Page - http://www.quantumsoft.co.uk/druck/ In article <4f6a3e1c4d.druck@druck.freeuk.net>, druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> wrote: > Usually. I have a situation here whereby the IDC connector at the back of a scsi caddy (rack) housing can ease out due to it being an interference fit with the nylon surround of the adjacent power connector. This has been known to cause a drive not to answer. I have shaved a little off the nylon to help but it cannot be completely cured. It just takes longer for a problem to show up, that's if I have not carried out a routine service in time. Lionel -- ___ ______ / / / ___/ 4 children | Sea Vixen for pugnacity / / ionel A.| \ mith 8 grandchildren, | Hunter for elegance / /____ __\ | no wonder life is a breeze | Phantom for clout /_______/ /_____/ http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/lionels | ZFC B+4+4 From an OS...

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