Instead of taking the defense, I'm taking the offense here.

I'd like to lecture grandly about the things I love and the truth and 
the ones I hate - but life is too short and you'll quit reading anyway.

So if I get ONE more smart ass comment from one of you 'I hate Jesus' 
'God is Dead' and 'Kill yourself' fagots - it's just going to be an all 
out flame war.

There's not a month that goes by without some ignorant jackass spouting 
off some liberal baby killing ignorant comment and when I see it I'M 
GOING TO SPEAK MY FUCKING MIND!

Yes, that's right. There are kids who read this fucking board and don't 
need to be bombarded with your leftist bigoted fagot crap.

This is life. This is Commodore and this is my fucking response to the 
assholes on this board.

One *fucking* warning.



Christian Lott

Hey Christian,

> So if I get ONE more smart ass comment from one of you 'I hate Jesus' 
> 'God is Dead' and 'Kill yourself' fagots - it's just going to be an all 
> out flame war.

:-) I don't hate Jesus because I didn't know him and, according to the fairy
tales, he was a pretty nice guy. God is not dead because that would implicitly
suggest that he or she or it ever existed which he or she or it actually never
did. As for the kill yourself part, yeah, stop walking near trees so that your
god, if existing at all, can strike you with his or her or its lighting, let
there be one less babbling idiot on this planet!

> This is life.

And this is a Commodore newsgroup, for Commodore-related discussion, nothing
more! I'm sure there are other newsgroups where other babbling idiots will be
immensely happy and enlightened to hear your opinion about Life, the Universe
and Everything. So why don't you go over there and leave us alone?

> One *fucking* warning.

What does your god, if existing at all, say about swearing around this often?

Joe

P.S.: If you want a flame war, at least, have some style!
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"Christian Lott" <c65@cox.net> wrote in message
news:06qze.19052$up5.17940@lakeread02...
> Instead of taking the defense, I'm taking the offense here.
>
> I'd like to lecture grandly about the things I love and the truth and
> the ones I hate - but life is too short and you'll quit reading anyway.
>
> So if I get ONE more smart ass comment from one of you 'I hate Jesus'
> 'God is Dead' and 'Kill yourself' fagots - it's just going to be an all
> out flame war.
>
> There's not a month that goes by without some ignorant jackass spouting
> off some liberal baby killing ignorant comment and when I see it I'M
> GOING TO SPEAK MY FUCKING MIND!

Luckily for us that shouldn't take very long.

> Yes, that's right. There are kids who read this fucking board and don't
> need to be bombarded with your leftist bigoted fagot crap.

Shut up ignorant redneck.

Christian Lott wrote:
> Instead of taking the defense, I'm taking the offense here.

You're actually just making me laugh. I am sure other chaps are laughing as 
well, maybe with an ounce of discomfort.

> I'd like to lecture grandly about the things I love and the truth and
> the ones I hate - but life is too short and you'll quit reading
> anyway.

So just quit. Nobody cares at all anyway.

> So if I get ONE more smart ass comment from one of you 'I hate Jesus'
> 'God is Dead' and 'Kill yourself' fagots - it's just going to be an
> all out flame war.

It's funny I have to side with Joe Fester, but he has the perfect right to 
say whatever he likes about religion when and how he feels to, and you have 
to accept it. Faith, beliefs and tastes are not to argue about.

Fester might have a lot of defects, but he doesn't like off-topics 
discussions and very rarely gets into them, he's too anal for breaking the 
rules. So you don't speak about it and probably he never will either.

> There's not a month that goes by without some ignorant jackass
> spouting off some liberal baby killing ignorant comment and when I
> see it I'M GOING TO SPEAK MY FUCKING MIND!

You should speak your fucking mind, but be careful not to show your mind is 
fucked, dude.

Chill out immediately, either a few other people who had nothing against you 
might feel wronged by this delirious and ridicoulus war declaration and turn 
their backs on you for good. You used to be enjoyable, Lott. What's wrong 
with you?

> Yes, that's right. There are kids who read this fucking board and
> don't need to be bombarded with your leftist bigoted fagot crap.

I doubt there are kids who read this fucking boa...newsgroup, we're just a 
bunch of pathetic old farts with a bad fetish in decrepit computer hardware. 
We're old gentlemen, we use to hang out with a walking cane or an umbrella 
at our side, you know?

However if there are some kids here - I doubt -  I don't think it'll make 
any good to them reading your homophobic rants. Not that I particularly like 
dykes and fags either, but, hey, whomever someone prefers to gets laid with 
is nothing we have the right to laugh about or comment or use as an offense. 
It's like offending someone because he/she likes to eat Broccoli and Beans 
for breakfast.

> This is life. This is Commodore and this is my fucking response to the
> assholes on this board.

I thought Commodore were computers.  Your response has nothing to do with 
Commodore, but rather with some psychotropic substances you were not 
supposed to take without a doctor's prescription.

Chill out, relax, speak about Commodore, give your contribute about 
Commodore and accept you're not supposed to fix anything you think is wrong. 
Move on.

Riccardo

Christian Lott <c65@cox.net> wrote:

> There's not a month that goes by without some ignorant jackass spouting 
> off some liberal baby killing ignorant comment and when I see it I'M 
> GOING TO SPEAK MY FUCKING MIND!

AP: Anti-Abortion Extremist Sentenced to 19 Years
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBBH2JTVAE.html

Ville Muikkula wrote:

> AP: Anti-Abortion Extremist Sentenced to 19 Years
> http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBBH2JTVAE.html

LOL... What a nutjob!

Well, but he said he was on a mission from God. The Blues Brothers were too, 
after all.

Riccardo

It occurred to me that Riccardo Rubini wrote in comp.sys.cbm:

> Well, but he said he was on a mission from God. The Blues Brothers were too, 
> after all.

Yeah, but they made great music along the way!

-- 
    Martijn van Buul - pino@dohd.org - http://www.stack.nl/~martijnb/
	 Geek code: G--  - Visit OuterSpace: mud.stack.nl 3333
 The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...' Isaac Asimov

>...we're just a 
>bunch of pathetic old farts with a bad fetish in decrepit computer hardware. 
>We're old gentlemen, we use to hang out with a walking cane or an umbrella 
>at our side, you know?

I completely and absolutely resent this inacurate and hateful remark.
My Commodores are NOT decrepit...

....everything else seems about right though...

The Hornet wrote:
>> ...we're just a
>> bunch of pathetic old farts with a bad fetish in decrepit computer
>> hardware. We're old gentlemen, we use to hang out with a walking
>> cane or an umbrella at our side, you know?
>
> I completely and absolutely resent this inacurate and hateful remark.
> My Commodores are NOT decrepit...
>
> ...everything else seems about right though...

Hey Hornet,

lucky you... Some of my Commodore's are so haggard and worn out you'd say 
it's a luck they don't disintegrate at air contact.

I once got me for a couple of euros a C64, whose owner prolly had confused 
it with an ashtray, at some point. When it heats up it produces a smell like 
someone is smoking around you, but with that unique 
"pair-of-tennis-shoes-cooking-in-the-oven" flavour, you know...

Riccardo 

Christian Lott wrote:

> Instead of taking the defense, I'm taking the offense here.
> <snip>

> Christian Lott

I don't think it would be too much to ask that you add [OT] in future to 
your subject fields where it is not commodore 8 bit related.
Please do it in future, thanks.

"Christian Lott" <c65@cox.net> wrote in message 
news:06qze.19052$up5.17940@lakeread02...
> Instead of taking the defense, I'm taking the offense here.
>
> I'd like to lecture grandly about the things I love and the truth and the 
> ones I hate - but life is too short and you'll quit reading anyway.
>
> So if I get ONE more smart ass comment from one of you 'I hate Jesus' 'God 
> is Dead' and 'Kill yourself' fagots - it's just going to be an all out 
> flame war.

Go ahead and then watch your internet connection be terminated when someone 
contacts your ISP for abuse. Then someone takes you to court for mass public 
slandering when it does go into that AND you insult someone.

Be careful guys of racial slanders too.

> There's not a month that goes by without some ignorant jackass spouting 
> off some liberal baby killing ignorant comment and when I see it I'M GOING 
> TO SPEAK MY FUCKING MIND!

If you don't like it, you have the choice to leave the newsgroups. You may 
speak your mind but if you ruin it enough, a quota maybe achieved to have 
this newsgroup dissolved. Anyway, I'll explain some facts about 
comp.sys.cbm, it was established 10-20 or so years ago as a public newsgroup 
(originally under a different name but was set to comp.sys.cbm after a major 
transition to this format many years ago) to discuss things Commodore 8 bit 
related. This is because several newsgroups were formed for different 
topics.

I'll explain, the newsgroup naming comvention, comp.*.* (the comp means 
computers).
*.sys.* (the sys means 'system') and *.*.cbm means 'cbm' as in Commodore 
Business Machines. This newsgroup in particular was formed to discuss topics 
relating to the CBM computer systems (CBM = Commodore Business Machines).

There are USENET newsgroups for discussing things relating to things like 
the abortion controversy. The point of having multiple newsgroups is that 
people who are interested in certain topics can subscribe to the newsgroup 
designated for those topics. A person who is respectful of others will take 
their topics to those newsgroups and NOT take the topics to newsgroups that 
are not about discussing those topics. The idea is that this newsgroup was 
established for those who are interested in Commodore computers and 
discussing topics related to Commodore computers can talk here. If you are 
not interested in reserving your posts to Commodore related topics, it is 
the right thing to shut up, don't post OR leave this newsgroup and subscribe 
to the newsgroups for the topics that you are interested in. This newsgroup 
can become moderated. So, I really think it is best for you to consider why 
you are here on a newsgroup that has nothing to do with the topics that you 
are interested in posting to. I personally think that there are better 
things that you can spend your time than writing a bunch of posts that no 
one here cares.

We can have a voting poll. I am sure people will not resort to 
double-voting. Vote once.


> Yes, that's right. There are kids who read this fucking board and don't 
> need to be bombarded with your leftist bigoted fagot crap.

We don't need to be talking about this. How about reserving your topics to 
that of Commodore related topics such as QLink Revival project, 6502 
assembly/ML, uIEC project, BASIC, and things related to what is going on in 
the Commodore community.

For kids sake, lets start by growing up and self-moderate ourself and 
reserve posts
to those relating to Commodore. It would be a great thing if we can be able 
to talk about things like how to do Commodore graphics or BASIC and those 
things alike.


> This is life. This is Commodore and this is my fucking response to the 
> assholes on this board.

Yes, it is about Commodore. So, try to reserve your posts to Commodore 
topics. A polite request. These non-related topics are a waste of time.

> Instead of taking the defense, I'm taking the offense here.
>
> I'd like to lecture grandly about the things I love and the truth and
> the ones I hate - but life is too short and you'll quit reading anyway.
>
> So if I get ONE more smart ass comment from one of you 'I hate Jesus'
> 'God is Dead' and 'Kill yourself' fagots - it's just going to be an all
> out flame war.
>
> There's not a month that goes by without some ignorant jackass spouting
> off some liberal baby killing ignorant comment and when I see it I'M
> GOING TO SPEAK MY FUCKING MIND!

I have seen, and i still do... A lot of atheists who are a lot more tolerant
than you, I see myself as one of those...
I don't hate jesus, i didn't say god is dead, though i don't believe in him!
Weather you should kill yourself or not, is up to you! So you hate
homosexuals? - I don't, and i definately am heterosexual...

If anyone is starting a flamewar, it is you sir!

If you don't want comments on your belief or what you think is right
politically, don't post about it!


> Yes, that's right. There are kids who read this fucking board and don't
> need to be bombarded with your leftist bigoted fagot crap.

I don't think so...


> This is life. This is Commodore and this is my fucking response to the
> assholes on this board.

A-ha, this IS a commodore newsgroup, so please go somewhere else and post
messages like this one...


> One *fucking* warning.

Or you are going to do what? - Leave? - Please do...


Brian

Christian Lott wrote:

>There's not a month that goes by without some ignorant jackass spouting 
>off some liberal baby killing ignorant comment and when I see it I'M 
>GOING TO SPEAK MY FUCKING MIND!


THE STANDARD ADVICE:

There is a way to influence what gets discussed in a newsgroup that 
works well, and another way that has never worked no matter how many 
people have tried it.

What works:  Post articles on the topic you wish to see discussed, 
and participate in the resulting discussion.  Use killfiles and
filters so that you don't see the articles that you dislike.  
If you don't know how to use a killfile, use good old fashioned 
discipline and don't read the articles that you dislike.  Never, 
ever respond to articles that you dislike. 

What doesn't work: Respond to articles that you dislike, complain
about articles that you dislike, complain about posters that you
dislike, complain about how terrible everyone else is for not posting 
what you want them to post. Talk about how to respond to articles 
that you dislike.  Make the articles that you dislike the center of
attention, the main topic of discussion, and a personal crusade.
                                                          -Guy Macon

I'll simply put it short. NO ONE like people who tries to dictate how one is 
to respond, believe and so forth.

In other words Christian Lott, if you don't want people to dictate to you. 
Don't dictate to us. Keep you personal views private if you don't want 
people to disagree with you.

In the United States, we have a 'Right' in our Bill of Rights (we call the 
Constitutionary rights) to the freedom of speech and the right to speak our 
personal values in a non-violent way, and therefore - you may not legally 
persecuted for speaking an opinion. This does not constitute violent acts 
such a murder.

Now, USENET was established with multiple newsgroups based on subject 
themes. This way, people can subscribe to the newsgroups that they are 
interested. People who have subscribed to this newsgroup - subscribed to 
discuss Commodore related topics which was what this newgroup was chartered 
as the subject matter when it was created many years ago. The people 
complaining about the off-topic messages here, subscribed to this newsgroup 
to discuss Commodore topics. It is like subscribing to a magazine about cars 
but find out that the articles are about dog shit. Now, you certainly would 
be upset.

This newsgroup is created for Commodore related discussions. Thank you very 
much. Lets get back to that. If you subscribed to this newsgroup to discuss 
abortion or things like that, dear Christian Lott, you have subscribed to 
the wrong newsgroup. I would suggest that you subscribe to 
alt.flame.abortion

Take it there dude. They'll love you.



"Guy Macon" <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote in message 
news:11ctfe91siavia3@corp.supernews.com...

> THE STANDARD ADVICE:
>
> There is a way to influence what gets discussed in a newsgroup that
> works well, and another way that has never worked no matter how many
> people have tried it.
>
> What works:  Post articles on the topic you wish to see discussed,
> and participate in the resulting discussion.  Use killfiles and
> filters so that you don't see the articles that you dislike.
> If you don't know how to use a killfile, use good old fashioned
> discipline and don't read the articles that you dislike.  Never,
> ever respond to articles that you dislike.
>
> What doesn't work: Respond to articles that you dislike, complain
> about articles that you dislike, complain about posters that you
> dislike, complain about how terrible everyone else is for not posting
> what you want them to post. Talk about how to respond to articles
> that you dislike.  Make the articles that you dislike the center of
> attention, the main topic of discussion, and a personal crusade.
>                                                          -Guy Macon
> 

"Rick Balkins" <nospam.rickbalkins@nospam.wavestarinteractive.com> wrote in
message news:qTxze.5$5R1.3@fe07.lga...
>
> "Christian Lott" <c65@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:06qze.19052$up5.17940@lakeread02...
> > Instead of taking the defense, I'm taking the offense here.
> >
> > I'd like to lecture grandly about the things I love and the truth and
the
> > ones I hate - but life is too short and you'll quit reading anyway.
> >
> > So if I get ONE more smart ass comment from one of you 'I hate Jesus'
'God
> > is Dead' and 'Kill yourself' fagots - it's just going to be an all out
> > flame war.
>
> Go ahead and then watch your internet connection be terminated when
someone
> contacts your ISP for abuse. Then someone takes you to court for mass
public
> slandering when it does go into that AND you insult someone.
>
> Be careful guys of racial slanders too.
>
> > There's not a month that goes by without some ignorant jackass spouting
> > off some liberal baby killing ignorant comment and when I see it I'M
GOING
> > TO SPEAK MY FUCKING MIND!
>
> If you don't like it, you have the choice to leave the newsgroups. You may
> speak your mind but if you ruin it enough, a quota maybe achieved to have
> this newsgroup dissolved. Anyway, I'll explain some facts about
> comp.sys.cbm,

Really not neccesary. RiKs FaKts tm are generally not real facts...

"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
news:42ceeec7$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...

> Really not neccesary. RiKs FaKts tm are generally not real facts...

Ok, maybe it was unclear. But originally comp.sys.cbm had a different name. 
But then there was some restructuring with the newsgroups to this naming 
convention format.

comp.sys.cbm was created to discuss topics that is Commodore related.

Plain and simple. You want the charter to this newsgroup ?

In fact, C-One topics is a discrepency to the rule. It is more explicit to 
Commodore 8 Bit computers.

There is a general purpose for multiple newsgroups. A) So people interested 
in a given subject/topic/theme like Commodore 8 bit computers and related 
topics can subscribe to this newsgroup and talk about the Commodore and 
software related to it. Ok, a little chatting that is off topic is generally 
okay to an extent.

Now, go read the charter of comp.sys.cbm. I think you can find it.

Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote:

> Really not neccesary. RiKs FaKts tm are generally not real facts...

23-27% of the time they are!


Regards,

Laust

On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 02:59:41 -0500, Christian Lott wrote:

> Instead of taking the defense, I'm taking the offense here.
> 
> I'd like to lecture grandly about the things I love and the truth and the
> ones I hate - but life is too short and you'll quit reading anyway.
> 
> So if I get ONE more smart ass comment from one of you 'I hate Jesus' 'God
> is Dead' and 'Kill yourself' fagots - it's just going to be an all out
> flame war.
> 
> There's not a month that goes by without some ignorant jackass spouting
> off some liberal baby killing ignorant comment and when I see it I'M GOING
> TO SPEAK MY FUCKING MIND!
> 
> Yes, that's right. There are kids who read this fucking board and don't
> need to be bombarded with your leftist bigoted fagot crap.
> 
> This is life. This is Commodore and this is my fucking response to the
> assholes on this board.
> 
> One *fucking* warning.

Anger management classes might be of some use.

On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 01:22:24 +0000, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> Really not neccesary. RiKs FaKts tm are generally not real facts...
> 
> 23-27% of the time they are!

RiKfaKts, when valid, tend to be facts like "water is wet" and "wind is
air moving very fast" and "heat is hot."

Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote:
  >>Really not neccesary. RiKs FaKts tm are generally not real facts...
> 
> 
> 23-27% of the time they are!
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Laust


OLD SCHOOL DOOM64!

How could we EVER forget???

"Christian Lott" <c65@cox.net> wrote in message
news:06qze.19052$up5.17940@lakeread02...
> Instead of taking the defense, I'm taking the offense here.

I haven't really involved myself in any of these discussions so far.
However, I just have one thing to say.

Notice that no other Christian in this group has ever rallied in support of
you?  Yes, there are plenty (including me), and we cringe at your spoutings,
not wanting to be associated with you personally, and let the few who still
bother make mincemeat of you and your insane ramblings.  Yes, you quote a
lot of facts, but that doesn't make you any less nuts.  Yes, some of the
people you argue with are as nuts as you are, but that doesn't make you any
less nuts.  Quit embarrassing those who actually treat people like Jesus
treated them; you're doing no good for anybody and are definitely not
bringing any honor to the one you supposedly worship.  Notice that many
people don't have any problem with the teachings of Jesus, they just can't
stand his supposed followers?  You're reinforcing that view entirely too
much.

-- 
White Flame (aka David Holz)
http://www.white-flame.com/
(spamblock in effect)

White Flame (aka David Holz) wrote:


OK, WF. You're a 'christian'?

So why haven't you made any attempt before at correcting others?

If you think you're acting like Jesus by keeping silent, I don't think 
you can call yourself a Christian.

Last I checked you were supposed to be spreading The Word.

I may have some faults but at least I'm not like the ones who walk by a 
person being mugged on the street and keep walking.

If you have a problem with the way I handle things please know that I 
have a MAJOR problem with people who claim they're Christian yet never 
speak up when Satanists post God hating rhetoric - which is EXACTLY what 
'The Human Extinction Movement' IS.

You'd think in a global community you could find a few people to trust 
but it's more than obvious the only time anyone speaks up for what they 
claim to believe is when SOMEONE IS SCREAMING IN THEIR FACE REMINDING THEM!

How else is it that 80% of the population SAYS they believe in God and 
50 million babies have been aborted in 30 years. Because no one speaks 
up and the ones who do are shouted down by those who 'claim' to believe.

If you think Christ was some peace nick hippy prancing around in a tutu 
telling everyone they were going to Heaven and that there is no Hell, I 
suggest you either catch up on your Bible study or join the seculars - 
because those of us who believe DON'T NEED YOU.


Christian Lott/TBN

'With friends like this, who needs enemies?'

"Christian Lott" <c65@cox.net> wrote in message
news:zmJze.31572$up5.16496@lakeread02...
> White Flame (aka David Holz) wrote:
>
>
> OK, WF. You're a 'christian'?
>
> So why haven't you made any attempt before at correcting others?
>
> If you think you're acting like Jesus by keeping silent, I don't think
> you can call yourself a Christian.
>
> Last I checked you were supposed to be spreading The Word.

Spreading the "word" is what has caused so many of todays troubles in the
world. Keep your beliefs to yourself and stop pushing them onto others.

> I may have some faults but at least I'm not like the ones who walk by a
> person being mugged on the street and keep walking.
>
> If you have a problem with the way I handle things please know that I
> have a MAJOR problem with people who claim they're Christian yet never
> speak up when Satanists post God hating rhetoric - which is EXACTLY what
> 'The Human Extinction Movement' IS.

You can't hate something that doesn't exist.

> You'd think in a global community you could find a few people to trust
> but it's more than obvious the only time anyone speaks up for what they
> claim to believe is when SOMEONE IS SCREAMING IN THEIR FACE REMINDING
THEM!

Or they are sane and you are not.

> How else is it that 80% of the population SAYS they believe in God and
> 50 million babies have been aborted in 30 years. Because no one speaks
> up and the ones who do are shouted down by those who 'claim' to believe.

There is no god. Dead is dead. We kill billions of animals every year with
the same result. Our fate is the grave, quit whining about what happens when
you die and start doing something to improve the situation of those around
you and yourself. You can start by stopping this senseless tirade against
atheists, christians and anyone else that doesn't share your warped view of
the world.

> If you think Christ was some peace nick hippy prancing around in a tutu
> telling everyone they were going to Heaven and that there is no Hell, I
> suggest you either catch up on your Bible study or join the seculars -
> because those of us who believe DON'T NEED YOU.
>

Those of you who believe need a reality check and re-education, but hey it's
your choice but don't try to force your nonsense onto others who don't
support your views...

"Christian Lott" <c65@cox.net> wrote in message 
news:zmJze.31572$up5.16496@lakeread02...
> White Flame (aka David Holz) wrote:
>
>
> OK, WF. You're a 'christian'?
>
> So why haven't you made any attempt before at correcting others?
>
> If you think you're acting like Jesus by keeping silent, I don't think you 
> can call yourself a Christian.
>
> Last I checked you were supposed to be spreading The Word.
>
> I may have some faults but at least I'm not like the ones who walk by a 
> person being mugged on the street and keep walking.
>
> If you have a problem with the way I handle things please know that I have 
> a MAJOR problem with people who claim they're Christian yet never speak up 
> when Satanists post God hating rhetoric - which is EXACTLY what 'The Human 
> Extinction Movement' IS.

Do you think that I am for human extinction and for the purpose of 
extermination of all human beings. No, I'm not for it because there are 
other options. I only say that if it happens, so be it. Because if it 
happens, what are any of us going to do about it ?

Ok, your point is understood. I save the world a couple hundred watts by 
using my laptop instead of a Desktop. ok. Power saved. Oh well.

Now, lets kind of get seriously thinking about this. Do you expect us to not 
have any lives of our own ? I can seriously ask God that to his face. I can 
agree that we can serve God's word (if you believe in it). Lets take a look 
at the Bible, it is a guide how to live among many other things. Treat 
others as you wish to be treated.

Isn't that among the Ten Commandments. Does it say that we are to have no 
lives of our own. You can exstrapulate certain sayings but you can also 
consider that God knows that we will all fail to meet such extremes. Then 
comes Jesus, basically saying that He does not expect us to be perfect and 
therefore to enter God's kingdom (heaven), you must repent your sins and ask 
for forgiveness and so forth. Ok, understood. It doesn't mean that we try to 
spend our lives purposely trying to commit sins and then say 'oh please 
forgive my sins' just so you don't go to hell. There has to be some 
sincerity and honesty. Ok, understood.

God (if exists), would also understand that we have lifes of our own and 
doesn't expect us to totally forget about having our own lives. God would 
not expect us to go to every ally corner looking for criminals. There is 
something called the police.

Ok, it is understandable that the police can't be everywhere but there is 
times when we must do what in our hearts is right and be called to serve. 
Not necassarily to any government organization or agency but to called to do 
what is right. I understand your point. I'm not going to go out to seek 
trouble but if I must, I'll do what is right. So yippie ki yay to those 
mother f*ckers.


> You'd think in a global community you could find a few people to trust but 
> it's more than obvious the only time anyone speaks up for what they claim 
> to believe is when SOMEONE IS SCREAMING IN THEIR FACE REMINDING THEM!

Hay! We can't live our lives thinking about that 24 hours/ 7 days a week, 
365 days a year for our whole lives. It is too much to handle, man. Don't 
need to remind us. I need to be thinking of all those negative thoughts all 
the time. I like to think about positive things. It is what keeps me going 
and not decide to commit suicide. If life was ONLY about the negative, then 
what the fuck is the point of living. You don't need to make that crusade 
here. We come to newsgroups like comp.sys.cbm and forums and whatever else - 
to relax. So PLEASE quit ruining that. For sanity sake.

> How else is it that 80% of the population SAYS they believe in God and 50 
> million babies have been aborted in 30 years. Because no one speaks up and 
> the ones who do are shouted down by those who 'claim' to believe.

Dude, you are not F*CKING alone. There are. We just DON'T want to spend our 
valuable free time to relax and enjoy our FUCKING lives and conversations 
with others that we consider as friends to think about abortion. If you 
continue things like this in newsgroups and forums like this, you won't be 
getting any friends.

> If you think Christ was some peace nick hippy prancing around in a tutu 
> telling everyone they were going to Heaven and that there is no Hell, I 
> suggest you either catch up on your Bible study or join the seculars - 
> because those of us who believe DON'T NEED YOU.

Dude, I already know that. What the FUCK do you want us to do ? Give up our 
lives and fight this so called crusade and NOT have our own lives ? Some 
people here have families to take care of so going on this crusade can cause 
us to loose our jobs because we be prancing around all these cities and not 
at work doing the jobs that we are paid to do. We have LIVES of our own. 
What else do you want us to do, GIVE up what few hours of free time to relax 
and enjoy ourselves to fighting this so called 'crusade' ?

We have our own lives and family. There are some whoms lives are to save 
lives or to fight criminals or whos lives is to serve this country to 
protect and defend. These people shall be honored BUT don't forget the ones 
who work to provide the food we do have or even to haul the food from place 
to place.

Many here, do that. In some way, contributing to the lives of other people. 
We can't do that 24 hours a day, individually.

Christian Lott wrote:
> White Flame (aka David Holz) wrote:
> 
> 
> OK, WF. You're a 'christian'?
> 
> So why haven't you made any attempt before at correcting others?
> 
> If you think you're acting like Jesus by keeping silent, I don't think 
> you can call yourself a Christian.
> 
> Last I checked you were supposed to be spreading The Word.
> 
> I may have some faults but at least I'm not like the ones who walk by a 
> person being mugged on the street and keep walking.
> 
> If you have a problem with the way I handle things please know that I 
> have a MAJOR problem with people who claim they're Christian yet never 
> speak up when Satanists post God hating rhetoric - which is EXACTLY what 
> 'The Human Extinction Movement' IS.
> 

Have ya read the bible lately. Revelations tells us all about the end of 
the world and the Extinction of the Human race. God is Good.


> You'd think in a global community you could find a few people to trust 
> but it's more than obvious the only time anyone speaks up for what they 
> claim to believe is when SOMEONE IS SCREAMING IN THEIR FACE REMINDING THEM!
> 
> How else is it that 80% of the population SAYS they believe in God and 
> 50 million babies have been aborted in 30 years. Because no one speaks 
> up and the ones who do are shouted down by those who 'claim' to believe.
> 
> If you think Christ was some peace nick hippy prancing around in a tutu 
> telling everyone they were going to Heaven and that there is no Hell, I 
> suggest you either catch up on your Bible study or join the seculars - 
> because those of us who believe DON'T NEED YOU.
> 
> 
> Christian Lott/TBN
> 
> 'With friends like this, who needs enemies?'
> 
> 
> 

"Christian Lott" <c65@cox.net> wrote in message
news:zmJze.31572$up5.16496@lakeread02...
> So why haven't you made any attempt before at correcting others?

I generally ignore off-topic threads here, but from what I've seen it's all
just bull-headed flaming.

Do you think your "correcting" does anything?  Can you correct people who
don't hold the same basic premises as you do by solely justifying it by your
own beliefs?  Do you think people see your ramblings and say "Wow, I want to
be a Christian like him!  He obviously holds life-altering truths!"

Obviously not, as *in practice* we've seen that everybody thinks you're
insane and many purposefully start retorting with anti-Christian sentiment
just to annoy you (as they've obviously been annoyed before by loudmouthed,
ineffective, disconnected, hate-driven "Christians" who have no interest in
people who don't believe what they do).  Being an idiot isn't going to turn
anybody to Christianity, nor is it going to cure any evil in society.  You
are presenting nothing that makes anybody want to believe in what you do
(probably makes them stay far away instead), and have no clue about people
that don't believe what you do.

People believe different things, and you purposefully throw more of the same
things at them that caused them to start hating Christianity in the first
place; what's that supposed to accomplish?  Look at the fruits of your works
here and try to come up with any actual good you've done.  Like I said,
sharing some facts about abortion or whatever == good though usually
off-topic.  Doing so while being a rambling idiot who can't respect a topic
of discussion == bad.

-- 
White Flame (aka David Holz)
http://www.white-flame.com/
(spamblock in effect)

>lucky you... Some of my Commodore's are so haggard and worn out you'd say 
>it's a luck they don't disintegrate at air contact.

I keep buying new 8-bitters every now and then. I have a
basement/attic full of C64s & 128s, Apple II systems, Atari XLs and
even a few Ti-99/4as lying around. (I like Amigas, too - I have three
of them.) Can't help myself. I keep remembering how much these
machines cost back in the day, and when I see one going for a few
bucks on eBay I just can't pass it up. I remember in January of 1984
buying a new Apple IIe system with mono monitor, a Duodisk drive
system, an Imagewriter printer and a few software titles for arond
$1500. I bought the exact same system for $50 a few months back.
Crazy.

That comment you made about a "bad fetish" was pretty accurate...

>...use good old fashioned 
>discipline and don't read the articles that you dislike.  Never, 
>ever respond to articles that you dislike. 

Amen to that, brother...

Riccardo Rubini wrote:
> 
> You're actually just making me laugh. I am sure other chaps are laughing as 
> well, maybe with an ounce of discomfort.
> 
Well, actually I'm not laughing, I'm getting pretty annoyed.
I've been away for 3 days, I fire up my thunderbird and there are 3 
flame threads polluting my reader (so far, I'm not yet done reading the 
threads). It's getting a bit out of control and the flames are 
overshadowing the interesting C= posts.

-R-

Jurgen Haan wrote:
> Riccardo Rubini wrote:

>> You're actually just making me laugh. I am sure other chaps are 
>> laughing as well, maybe with an ounce of discomfort.
>>
> Well, actually I'm not laughing, I'm getting pretty annoyed.
> I've been away for 3 days, I fire up my thunderbird and there are 3 
> flame threads polluting my reader (so far, I'm not yet done reading the 
> threads). It's getting a bit out of control and the flames are 
> overshadowing the interesting C= posts.

I am very sorry to hear you're having difficulty Jurgen.

May I suggest clicking the 'thread' button on the top left of your 
screen, it looks like a lasso. This will enable you to view the recent 
topics by thread. Therefore, just ignore these two or three threads. 
Don't open them up. If you don't click the + sign, the tree will not 
open and you can get back to your reading pleasure.

OTOH, you can listen to a condensed version of this flame war summed up 
by Rick Balkins in one completely offensive curse against God and a one 
sentence, completely meaningless and baffling comment about programming 
- all in a minute thirty nine second audio clip (with effects of course).

http://members.cox.net/diakytx/MandatoryTheology.ogg


When you're done viewing by thread you can go back to date view by 
clicking on the 'date' tab.


Have a good one!

Christian Lott/sub_STA_ndard

White Flame (aka David Holz) wrote:
  You
> are presenting nothing that makes anybody want to believe in what you do
> (probably makes them stay far away instead), and have no clue about people
> that don't believe what you do.

http://members.cox.net/diakytx/Denial%20Of%20Life.mp3

What's there to understand, David?

The Hornet <hornet@thedarkhive.net> wrote:

> >...we're just a 
> >bunch of pathetic old farts with a bad fetish in decrepit computer hardware.
> >We're old gentlemen, we use to hang out with a walking cane or an umbrella
> >at our side, you know?
> 
> I completely and absolutely resent this inacurate and hateful remark.
> My Commodores are NOT decrepit...
> 
> ...everything else seems about right though...

Although /I/ don't hang out with a walking cane... not yet...

-- 
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>Although /I/ don't hang out with a walking cane... not yet...

Sadly, I do...