Hi folks,

perhaps I am just too stupid to see the obvious, but I have not yet
succeeded to copy a file from a normal C128 disk (formatted with
"header" under Basic 7.0) to a CP/M formatted disk. I am using a
1571 as A: and a 1541-II as B:. Do I need special software (e.g. the 
"Little Red Reader" which I have found in the internet but not yet 
transferred?)

Cheers,

Nele

"Nele Abels" wrote ...
>
> perhaps I am just too stupid to see the obvious, but I have not yet
> succeeded to copy a file from a normal C128 disk (formatted with
> "header" under Basic 7.0) to a CP/M formatted disk. I am using a
> 1571 as A: and a 1541-II as B:. Do I need special software (e.g. the
> "Little Red Reader" which I have found in the internet but not yet
> transferred?)

Little Red Reader is for transferring files between MS-DOS disks and CBM
format disks.

There are programs to copy from CBM to CP/M disks, but I forget the names of
these programs at the moment.  Perhaps someone else may be of more help.
-- 
Best regards,

Sam Gillett

Change is inevitable,
except from vending machines!

Nele Abels wrote:
> I have not yet succeeded to copy a file from a normal C128
> disk (formatted with "header" under Basic 7.0) to a CP/M
> formatted disk.  I am using a 1571 as A: and a 1541-II as B:.
> Do I need special software (e.g. the  "Little Red Reader"
> which I have found in the internet but not yet transferred?)

I have an OLD spare copy of BIG BLUE READER.  It must be the first BBR
version that can write to CP/M disks. The manual insert claims file
transfers to or from CP/M disks and disks with other formats inserted
in a 1571 are possible.  I don't think this version of BBR can format
CP/M disks.  The manual claims that the program can deal with dual
drive setups, but I was unable to get my hard drive source to work
with a CP/M disk inserted in a 1571.  I finally was able to transfer
a file from the HD to the CP/M disk by juggling dip switches.  (I am
the clumsiest juggler in northern Colorado).  Maybe I don't know how
to read manuals.  The file is listed in CP/M mode by the DIR command.
The buffer size is 208 Commodore sectors without an REU and 1800+
with a 1750 clone.  If you don't have a copy of BIG BLUE READER or
if no one else comes forward with a better solution, I will ground
ship this OLD spare BBR disk with its manual to any 48 contiguous
US state location for a $3 check.  You can contact me as follows:

	EMAIL handle : r_u_sure
	ISP : mybluelight.com
	or : r_u_sure@mybluelight.com

REGULAR ADDRESS : Paul Rosenzweig
:		  413 1/2 East Mulberry Street
:		  Fort Collins, Colorado 80524
:		  USA

A program here looks promising.  I haven't tried it

http://www.funet.fi/pub/cbm/c128/diskutil/transfer/index.html

r_u_sure@mybluelight.com wrote:
> A program here looks promising.  I haven't tried it
> 
> http://www.funet.fi/pub/cbm/c128/diskutil/transfer/index.html

This looks promising indeed, thanks for the info! Yet I wonder,
why Commodore did not include a tool for such an obvious task.
I mean, they built a computer with two operating systems and did 
not think of the so utterly unlikely possibility that somebody 
might transfer data between the systems? Strange...

Nele

Nele Abels wrote:
> r_u_sure@mybluelight.com wrote:
> > A program here looks promising.  I haven't tried it
> >
> > http://www.funet.fi/pub/cbm/c128/diskutil/transfer/index.html
>
> I wonder, why Commodore did not include a tool for such an
> obvious task.  I mean, they built a computer with two operating
> systems and did not think of the so utterly unlikely possibility
> that somebody might transfer data between the systems? Strange...

Such a tool in CP/M would not be needed for a system to conform
to the CP/M standards at the time.  A C128 native mode tool would
make more sense but I suspect that the C= management issued
instructions to the design engineers, "get this done by Friday"