Hello.
2-3 weeks ago I got CMD RamLink (RL) with 4 mb.
My problem : it's missing a jumper clip cable. It's supposed to
be connected from the RL to a pin on the C64 motherboard - This  is
needed on
C64 and C128D for ( quote from the manual )  'Proper timing operations
with the RL'.
The manual further states that this kind of connection is not
necessary with a C128.

But I only have a C64 and a C128D.

As the RL works now I only get to the RL Jiffydos basic screen and
when I try to
load the dir from the RL I only get errors or device not present.

So I have to build me a jumper clip cable. But I dont know how the
cable looks like.
Any instructions on how to do this would be helpful ...

Glenn

On Nov 9, 5:48 pm, the.glen...@heimplass.no wrote:
> Hello.
> 2-3 weeks ago I got CMD RamLink (RL) with 4 mb.
> My problem : it's missing a jumper clip cable. It's supposed to
> be connected from the RL to a pin on the C64 motherboard - This  is
> needed on
> C64 and C128D for ( quote from the manual )  'Proper timing operations
> with the RL'.
> The manual further states that this kind of connection is not
> necessary with a C128.
>
> But I only have a C64 and a C128D.
>
> As the RL works now I only get to the RL Jiffydos basic screen and
> when I try to
> load the dir from the RL I only get errors or device not present.
>
> So I have to build me a jumper clip cable. But I dont know how the
> cable looks like.
> Any instructions on how to do this would be helpful ...
>
> Glenn



 Well what I can tell you is to to go to Radio Shack and buy a pack of
jumper clips for $5.00 and then get a hold of a "PC MINI FAN" and CUT
OFF the end of the wire (this is the end that will connect to one end
of the Jumper wires that you buy from radio shack.
 Then connect the fan end to one end (an end that you will cut off the
jumper wire) of the jumper wire and WHALLAH! There ya go!

 And if I remember correctly, I "believe" that the jumper wire will
plug into the RL with the "fan" end and the "jumper clip" end will
clip onto resistor #47 (correct me if I'm wrong people).

 Good luck and let us know how it turns out for you....


  Charles> 8-Bit Designs

<the.glenn0r@heimplass.no> wrote in message 
news:1194659315.507809.120600@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> Hello.
> 2-3 weeks ago I got CMD RamLink (RL) with 4 mb.
> My problem : it's missing a jumper clip cable. It's supposed to
> be connected from the RL to a pin on the C64 motherboard - This  is
> needed on
> C64 and C128D for ( quote from the manual )  'Proper timing operations
> with the RL'.
> The manual further states that this kind of connection is not
> necessary with a C128.
>
> But I only have a C64 and a C128D.
>

My RL works fine on my 128D without the jumper clip.  I think it's dependent 
on the revision of your RL. 

WHALLAH ??????


Perhaps you meant: Voila  or specifically Voil=E0!

"Dragos" <mgladson@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1194674801.063982.275540@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> WHALLAH ??????
>
>
> Perhaps you meant: Voila  or specifically Voil�!
>
>

Who were you replying to? 

the.glenn0r@heimplass.no wrote:
> Hello.
> 2-3 weeks ago I got CMD RamLink (RL) with 4 mb.
> My problem : it's missing a jumper clip cable. It's supposed to
> be connected from the RL to a pin on the C64 motherboard - This  is
> needed on
> C64 and C128D for ( quote from the manual )  'Proper timing operations
> with the RL'.
> The manual further states that this kind of connection is not
> necessary with a C128.
> 
> But I only have a C64 and a C128D.
> 
> As the RL works now I only get to the RL Jiffydos basic screen and
> when I try to
> load the dir from the RL I only get errors or device not present.
> 
> So I have to build me a jumper clip cable. But I dont know how the
> cable looks like.
> Any instructions on how to do this would be helpful ...
> 
> Glenn
> 
There is a RAMLINK sync cable on ebay, Item number: 160178723042	

i was replying to the flake that posted whallah in his message.....

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, ramswell wrote:

> On Nov 9, 5:48 pm, the.glen...@heimplass.no wrote:
>> Hello.
>> 2-3 weeks ago I got CMD RamLink (RL) with 4 mb.
>> My problem : it's missing a jumper clip cable. It's supposed to
>> be connected from the RL to a pin on the C64 motherboard - This  is
>> needed on
>> C64 and C128D for ( quote from the manual )  'Proper timing operations
>> with the RL'.
>> The manual further states that this kind of connection is not
>> necessary with a C128.
>>
>> But I only have a C64 and a C128D.
>>
>> As the RL works now I only get to the RL Jiffydos basic screen and
>> when I try to
>> load the dir from the RL I only get errors or device not present.
>>
>> So I have to build me a jumper clip cable. But I dont know how the
>> cable looks like.
>> Any instructions on how to do this would be helpful ...
>>
>> Glenn
>
>
>
> Well what I can tell you is to to go to Radio Shack and buy a pack of
> jumper clips for $5.00 and then get a hold of a "PC MINI FAN" and CUT
> OFF the end of the wire (this is the end that will connect to one end
> of the Jumper wires that you buy from radio shack.
> Then connect the fan end to one end (an end that you will cut off the
> jumper wire) of the jumper wire and WHALLAH! There ya go!
>
> And if I remember correctly, I "believe" that the jumper wire will
> plug into the RL with the "fan" end and the "jumper clip" end will
> clip onto resistor #47 (correct me if I'm wrong people).
>
> Good luck and let us know how it turns out for you....
>
>
>  Charles> 8-Bit Designs
>
>
>
You both should be aware of this. The original CMD ramlinks did not
have any Jumper cables.  I had the original one and Maurice was
surprised when he told me to connect the jumpercables which were
necessary for "timeing" control on subsequent models of RamLinks".
Later I got one of the subsequent versions of ramlink and sure enuff
they had the timer 2 wire cables on them.  Why this was necessary
I know not cause my original one never had any problems on timeing
the 128.
              Joe

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Payton Byrd wrote:

>
>
> <the.glenn0r@heimplass.no> wrote in message 
> news:1194659315.507809.120600@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>> Hello.
>> 2-3 weeks ago I got CMD RamLink (RL) with 4 mb.
>> My problem : it's missing a jumper clip cable. It's supposed to
>> be connected from the RL to a pin on the C64 motherboard - This  is
>> needed on
>> C64 and C128D for ( quote from the manual )  'Proper timing operations
>> with the RL'.
>> The manual further states that this kind of connection is not
>> necessary with a C128.
>> 
>> But I only have a C64 and a C128D.
>> 
>
> My RL works fine on my 128D without the jumper clip.  I think it's dependent 
> on the revision of your RL. 
>
See me previous followup on this question.   The original CMD
ramlinks had no jumper cables at all.   They were later added after
Maurice took control of the product.   They were for timeing control
which apparently was unneccessary on the old versions.
                     Joe

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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, Dragos wrote:

> WHALLAH ??????
>
>
> Perhaps you meant: Voila  or specifically Voil=E0!
>
>
>
Yeah right !!!  The original ramlinks produced by CMD has no jumper
cables and none were needed.   Only later on they appeared to
affect the timeing speed.  I have both the original and the later
version from Maurice.
                        Joe

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On Nov 10, 12:26 pm, Joseph Fenn <jf...@lava.net> wrote:
>
> You both should be aware of this. The original CMD ramlinks did
> not have any Jumper cables.  I had the original one and Maurice
> was surprised when he told me to connect the jumpercables
> which were necessary for "timeing" control on subsequent
> models of RamLinks". Later I got one of the subsequent
> versions of ramlink and sure enuff they had the timer 2 wire
> cables on them.  Why this was necessary I know not cause
> my original one never had any problems on timeing the 128.

I am one of the deprived individuals with only 1 RAMLink.  Fortunately
it doesn't use a jumpercable with my 128D.  The only problems that I
had when I first got it was that I couldn't
access its RAM disk partitions when JIFFYDos was deactivated
and the difficulty when trying to swap device 8 with the RL.
There are now ware and tear problrms with it now.  The RAMLink
port doesn't work anymore,  I can live with the RL deffiencies.

Joseph Fenn wrote:

> The original ramlinks produced by CMD has no jumper
> cables and none were needed.   Only later on they appeared to
> affect the timeing speed.  I have both the original and the later
> version from Maurice.
>                         Joe

Not true.. my RamLink came from CMD ~5 years before Maurice took over and it
had the timing cable supplied with it, 
On a side note if you have a SCPU + RL combo there is a good chance its not
needed. I have two 128D's here one needs the cable one does not.

-Colin

> I am one of the deprived individuals with only 1 RAMLink.  Fortunately
> it doesn't use a jumpercable with my 128D.  The only problems that I
> had when I first got it was that I couldn't
> access its RAM disk partitions when JIFFYDos was deactivated
> and the difficulty when trying to swap device 8 with the RL.
> There are now ware and tear problrms with it now.  The RAMLink
> port doesn't work anymore,  I can live with the RL deffiencies.
>
>
>
Well I too had both the original CMD version which was a "dream"
for years, then craped out on me so bought the Maurice version
(used of course) from someone.  It arrived in a non working condition
and since I had no expertise to fix it, I just discarded the entire
R/L system and went back to my 4 QBB Black boxes on the extender
board.  Thats a ten year step backwards but those QBB's last forever
and if you do loose contents due to a worn out lithium cell for
instance, they are duck soop to get a bax load back in place.
Each box holds 256K capacity and they are just as fast as
R/L in what they do.
                          Joe

>
> Not true.. my RamLink came from CMD ~5 years before Maurice took over and it
> had the timing cable supplied with it,
> On a side note if you have a SCPU + RL combo there is a good chance its not
> needed. I have two 128D's here one needs the cable one does not.
>
> -Colin
>
I beg to differ with you Colin.  I also had my intial R/L long before
Maurice took over at last longer than you say 5 years.   It had no
such wires to plug in anywhere.  Those 2 wires on the last versions
of R/L after Maurice took over were for timeing control.
                 Joe

Joseph Fenn wrote:
>> Not true.. my RamLink came from CMD ~5 years before Maurice took over and
>> it had the timing cable supplied with it,
>> On a side note if you have a SCPU + RL combo there is a good chance its
>> not needed. I have two 128D's here one needs the cable one does not.

> I beg to differ with you Colin.  I also had my intial R/L long before
> Maurice took over at last longer than you say 5 years.   It had no
> such wires to plug in anywhere.  Those 2 wires on the last versions
> of R/L after Maurice took over were for timeing control.

Well I guess I was lucky or maybe because I live a few thousand miles away
they sent me one :) Its a single wire with a tiny "clip on" probe at one
end and a header type plug on the other end that plugs into the RL, look up
the end of the RL and you will see two pins for the header plug to connect
to.

Anyway my RL is faulty, so it needs to get fixed :(

Cheers

Colin

On Nov 11, 2:20 pm, Colin J Thomson <coli...@nospam.gmail.com> wrote:
> Joseph Fenn wrote:
> >> Not true.. my RamLink came from CMD ~5 years before Maurice took over and
> >> it had the timing cable supplied with it,
> >> On a side note if you have a SCPU + RL combo there is a good chance its
> >> not needed. I have two 128D's here one needs the cable one does not.
> > I beg to differ with you Colin.  I also had my intial R/L long before
> > Maurice took over at last longer than you say 5 years.   It had no
> > such wires to plug in anywhere.  Those 2 wires on the last versions
> > of R/L after Maurice took over were for timeing control.
>
> Well I guess I was lucky or maybe because I live a few thousand miles away
> they sent me one :) Its a single wire with a tiny "clip on" probe at one
> end and a header type plug on the other end that plugs into the RL, look up
> the end of the RL and you will see two pins for the header plug to connect
> to.
>
> Anyway my RL is faulty, so it needs to get fixed :(
>
> Cheers
>
> Colin



 Yep. That's it! ;)

  Charles

Thanks for the help. :)
I'm going to bid on that ebay auction first. Hope I get it.
If not I'll try some soldering ..

The CMD Ramlink user manual I have is a 4th edition dated February
1993.
And it clearly states that you must have a jumper cable on a C64 or
C128D.

Glenn

Hi Joseph and Colin,

I beg to differ with you Joseph, Colin is correct. :-)

Hernan.


On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, Joseph Fenn wrote:

>
>
> >
> > Not true.. my RamLink came from CMD ~5 years before Maurice took over and it
> > had the timing cable supplied with it,
> > On a side note if you have a SCPU + RL combo there is a good chance its not
> > needed. I have two 128D's here one needs the cable one does not.
> >
> > -Colin
> >
> I beg to differ with you Colin.  I also had my intial R/L long before
> Maurice took over at last longer than you say 5 years.   It had no
> such wires to plug in anywhere.  Those 2 wires on the last versions
> of R/L after Maurice took over were for timeing control.
>                  Joe
>
>

On Nov 9, 5:48 pm, the.glen...@heimplass.no wrote:
> Hello.
> 2-3 weeks ago I got CMD RamLink (RL) with 4 mb.
> My problem : it's missing a jumper clip cable. It's supposed to
> be connected from the RL to a pin on the C64 motherboard - This  is
> needed on
> C64 and C128D for ( quote from the manual )  'Proper timing operations
> with the RL'.
> The manual further states that this kind of connection is not
> necessary with a C128.
>
> But I only have a C64 and a C128D.
>
> As the RL works now I only get to the RL Jiffydos basic screen and
> when I try to
> load the dir from the RL I only get errors or device not present.
>
> So I have to build me a jumper clip cable. But I dont know how the
> cable looks like.
> Any instructions on how to do this would be helpful ...
>
> Glenn



 I just found my "SPARE" this morning if you're interested in it. All
I want it $5.00 + S&H for a TOTAL of $7 in the Continental US.


  Charles

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:30:23 -1000, Joseph Fenn <jfenn@lava.net> wrote:

>See me previous followup on this question.   The original CMD
>ramlinks had no jumper cables at all.   They were later added after
>Maurice took control of the product.   They were for timeing control
>which apparently was unneccessary on the old versions.
>                     Joe
>

Sorry Joe, your dates are a little mixed up there. Maurice purchased the
right to manufacture and existings stocks from CMD in 2001. My Ramlink
manual which is dated 1993 has instructions for attaching the timing clip.
So the Rev.2 Ramlink obviously pre-dates Maurices purchasing of CMD.

For the original poster, making a clip is easy. Go to almost any
electronics store and buy a two pin header socket, a small length of thin
guage hookup wire about 150mm long and an IC Clip. 

The two pin header only needs one pin to have the wire connected to it and
on my Ramlink, it doesn't matter which one as they are connected together
internally. So strip a bit of plastic off the hookup wire and expose the
copper, slide inside one of the two metal header socket connectors and
crimp with your favourite pair of pliers! The IC socket will likely have a
similar crimping arrangement so do that for the other end of the wire.

Simple as that, should cost you all of about $1.50 and five minutes of your
time :)

Mike
 

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:30:23 -1000, Joseph Fenn <jfenn@lava.net> wrote:


>See me previous followup on this question.   The original CMD
>ramlinks had no jumper cables at all.   They were later added after
>Maurice took control of the product.   They were for timeing control
>which apparently was unneccessary on the old versions.
>                     Joe
>

I just found the original invoice from CMD that came with my gear. It has
listed on it;

1 x CMDUTILS		CMD Utilities				$24.95

1 x RL1RTC		RAMLink w/1 Megabyte RAMCard and RTC	$229.95

1 x RL BATTERY	RAMLink Battery Back-up system			$24.95

1 x RL-HD CABLE	RAMLink to HD Parallel				$14.95

DATE OF INVOICE							8/29/94

There is also a "lifetime warranty" card from a company called DATA SPEC,
it covers the "cable assemblies". Wonder if that's who made the RL-HD CABLE
for CMD ?? Interesting the bits and pieces you get with second hand
equipment :)

Mike

	

On Nov 15, 11:02 pm, Mike Paull <mikey...@removethis.gmail.com> wrote:
> There is also a "lifetime warranty" card from a company called DATA SPEC,
> it covers the "cable assemblies". Wonder if that's who made the RL-HD CABLE
> for CMD ?? Interesting the bits and pieces you get with second hand
> equipment :)

Good luck sending anything back to Maurice for warranty work...

I probably wouldn't have to worry becase my 128DCR has the switches for 
changing the device number of the 1571 drive built in. It also has the reset 
buttons for computer and drive up-front.

This would make such things like what you are referring to a little more 
easier.

"rusure" <r_u_sure@mybluelight.com> wrote in message 
news:1194742287.428684.315940@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 10, 12:26 pm, Joseph Fenn <jf...@lava.net> wrote:
>>
>> You both should be aware of this. The original CMD ramlinks did
>> not have any Jumper cables.  I had the original one and Maurice
>> was surprised when he told me to connect the jumpercables
>> which were necessary for "timeing" control on subsequent
>> models of RamLinks". Later I got one of the subsequent
>> versions of ramlink and sure enuff they had the timer 2 wire
>> cables on them.  Why this was necessary I know not cause
>> my original one never had any problems on timeing the 128.
>
> I am one of the deprived individuals with only 1 RAMLink.  Fortunately
> it doesn't use a jumpercable with my 128D.  The only problems that I
> had when I first got it was that I couldn't
> access its RAM disk partitions when JIFFYDos was deactivated
> and the difficulty when trying to swap device 8 with the RL.
> There are now ware and tear problrms with it now.  The RAMLink
> port doesn't work anymore,  I can live with the RL deffiencies.
>
> 

IIRC: The Ramlink didn't have a jumper. The SuperCPU128 had some sort of 
jumper thinggy that gets installed inside the C128.

"Joseph Fenn" <jfenn@lava.net> wrote in message 
news:Pine.BSI.4.64.0711100931190.1386@malasada.lava.net...
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, Dragos wrote:

> WHALLAH ??????
>
>
> Perhaps you meant: Voila  or specifically Voil�!
>
>
>
Yeah right !!!  The original ramlinks produced by CMD has no jumper
cables and none were needed.   Only later on they appeared to
affect the timeing speed.  I have both the original and the later
version from Maurice.
                        Joe

Is that for the whole RamLink system.

"ramswell" <shifty_butch@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:49a6572a-a7ad-4bcb-b4e7-5c565efb2b74@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 9, 5:48 pm, the.glen...@heimplass.no wrote:
>> Hello.
>> 2-3 weeks ago I got CMD RamLink (RL) with 4 mb.
>> My problem : it's missing a jumper clip cable. It's supposed to
>> be connected from the RL to a pin on the C64 motherboard - This  is
>> needed on
>> C64 and C128D for ( quote from the manual )  'Proper timing operations
>> with the RL'.
>> The manual further states that this kind of connection is not
>> necessary with a C128.
>>
>> But I only have a C64 and a C128D.
>>
>> As the RL works now I only get to the RL Jiffydos basic screen and
>> when I try to
>> load the dir from the RL I only get errors or device not present.
>>
>> So I have to build me a jumper clip cable. But I dont know how the
>> cable looks like.
>> Any instructions on how to do this would be helpful ...
>>
>> Glenn
>
>
>
> I just found my "SPARE" this morning if you're interested in it. All
> I want it $5.00 + S&H for a TOTAL of $7 in the Continental US.
>
>
>  Charles 

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:25:25 -0800 (PST), Payton Byrd <plbyrd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Nov 15, 11:02 pm, Mike Paull <mikey...@removethis.gmail.com> wrote:
>> There is also a "lifetime warranty" card from a company called DATA SPEC,
>> it covers the "cable assemblies". Wonder if that's who made the RL-HD CABLE
>> for CMD ?? Interesting the bits and pieces you get with second hand
>> equipment :)
>
>Good luck sending anything back to Maurice for warranty work...

Thankfully my Ramlink is working just fine :)

Mike

On Nov 16, 8:59 pm, "Wildstar" <wildstar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is that for the whole RamLink system.
>
> "ramswell" <shifty_bu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:49a6572a-a7ad-4bcb-b4e7-5c565efb2b74@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 9, 5:48 pm, the.glen...@heimplass.no wrote:
> >> Hello.
> >> 2-3 weeks ago I got CMD RamLink (RL) with 4 mb.
> >> My problem : it's missing a jumper clip cable. It's supposed to
> >> be connected from the RL to a pin on the C64 motherboard - This  is
> >> needed on
> >> C64 and C128D for ( quote from the manual )  'Proper timing operations
> >> with the RL'.
> >> The manual further states that this kind of connection is not
> >> necessary with a C128.
>
> >> But I only have a C64 and a C128D.
>
> >> As the RL works now I only get to the RL Jiffydos basic screen and
> >> when I try to
> >> load the dir from the RL I only get errors or device not present.
>
> >> So I have to build me a jumper clip cable. But I dont know how the
> >> cable looks like.
> >> Any instructions on how to do this would be helpful ...
>
> >> Glenn
>
> > I just found my "SPARE" this morning if you're interested in it. All
> > I want it $5.00 + S&H for a TOTAL of $7 in the Continental US.
>
> >  Charles



 Well yeah; all you do is run the jumper through the expansion port on
the clip end and the plug into the ramlink end. Then you connect the
clip inside the 64 to R49 and then plug it into the ramlink and that's
it.

 Simple.;)

  Charles

"ramswell" <shifty_butch@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:adc10ae2-1f2e-4762-8f76-e67c4d3d3a38@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

>
> Well yeah; all you do is run the jumper through the expansion port on
> the clip end and the plug into the ramlink end. Then you connect the
> clip inside the 64 to R49 and then plug it into the ramlink and that's
> it.
>
> Simple.;)

So $7 for the whole RamLink unit including the jumper (or even without it). 
You got a deal. 

"Wildstar" wrote ...
>
> "ramswell" <shifty_butch@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:adc10ae2-1f2e-4762-8f76-e67c4d3d3a38@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> Well yeah; all you do is run the jumper through the expansion port on
>> the clip end and the plug into the ramlink end. Then you connect the
>> clip inside the 64 to R49 and then plug it into the ramlink and that's
>> it.
>>
>> Simple.;)
>
> So $7 for the whole RamLink unit including the jumper (or even without it). 
> You got a deal.

IF you had been following the thread you _might_ have been able to understand 
that the $7 was for the jumper cable alone.    >:-(>
-- 
Best regards,

Sam Gillett

If you don't pay your exorcist,
will you become repossessed? 

On Nov 17, 8:39 am, "Wildstar" <wildstar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "ramswell" <shifty_bu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:adc10ae2-1f2e-4762-8f76-e67c4d3d3a38@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Well yeah; all you do is run the jumper through the expansion port on
> > the clip end and the plug into the ramlink end. Then you connect the
> > clip inside the 64 to R49 and then plug it into the ramlink and that's
> > it.
>
> > Simple.;)
>
> So $7 for the whole RamLink unit including the jumper (or even without it).
> You got a deal.



 $5.00 (+ $2.00 S&H) for "THE TIMING CLIP ONLY!" For whoever needs it
as I have no use for it. My Ramlink AIN'T GOIN NOWHERE!!!

  Charles