Hallo allemaal,


I'm thinking about switching from UltiCap to Eagle for designing
schematics and PCBs and downloaded 4.11 last week. The only problem is
that the libraries don't contain any 65xx or C= parts. Are there
people in this group using Eagle and willing to share their libraries?

Thank you very much in advance!


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Hi Ruud, you wrote:

> I'm thinking about switching from UltiCap to Eagle for designing
> schematics and PCBs and downloaded 4.11 last week. The only problem is
> that the libraries don't contain any 65xx or C= parts. Are there
> people in this group using Eagle and willing to share their libraries?

I only used a library that can be found in the net, look at:

   http://www.hytherion.com/beattidp/comput/x65tools.htm

With the time I added some own creations (mostly changes to
the pads and signal names).


Womo

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Ruud Baltissen wrote:

> Hallo allemaal,
> 
> 
> I'm thinking about switching from UltiCap to Eagle for designing
> schematics and PCBs and downloaded 4.11 last week. The only problem is
> that the libraries don't contain any 65xx or C= parts. Are there
> people in this group using Eagle and willing to share their libraries?
> 
> Thank you very much in advance!

Hallo Ruud,

I used Eagle 4.x to create the hardware projects hosted on x1541.de. I don't 
have my few library creations online, but Eagle comes with a user script that 
can extract the objects from any .sch file, and you can download those. But I 
don't have much more than a 6502 CPU and a Userport edge connector, and 
probably I "stole" those from some other libraries I found online.

Nicolas


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On 5 Jan 2004 22:40:33 -0800, Ruud.Baltissen@abp.nl (Ruud Baltissen)
wrote:
>I'm thinking about switching from UltiCap to Eagle for designing
>schematics and PCBs and downloaded 4.11 last week. The only problem is
>that the libraries don't contain any 65xx or C= parts. Are there
>people in this group using Eagle and willing to share their libraries?

It figures the one part I am looking for is not there... the good old
16550 UART. Anyone seen it for Eagle?

/*Raj*/

Hello RajW, you wrote:
> 
> It figures the one part I am looking for is not there... the good old
> 16550 UART. Anyone seen it for Eagle?

why don't you take some 4 to 5 hours and create one yourself?
It's not too difficult to create own parts and after you created
the first 10 or 15 components yourself you'll find it easy.
Some months ago I myself created some very special SMD pad
combinations and I also created specialised versions of common
TTL chips (adding new package variants).
Currently I'm a little bit out of training, but when I did this
library modifications and additions I had much fun with this.


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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:52:41 +0100, Wolfgang Moser
<pwnah@d81.de.invalid> wrote:
>why don't you take some 4 to 5 hours and create one yourself?
>It's not too difficult to create own parts and after you created
>the first 10 or 15 components yourself you'll find it easy.

I was just checking to see if one existed first. :)  I have not
figured out how to create components just yet and I have not found a
good tutorial or instructions (I just installed it yesterday). The
help file it comes with is not that good.

/*Raj*/

RajW wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:52:41 +0100, Wolfgang Moser
> <pwnah@d81.de.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>why don't you take some 4 to 5 hours and create one yourself?
>>It's not too difficult to create own parts and after you created
>>the first 10 or 15 components yourself you'll find it easy.
> 
> 
> I was just checking to see if one existed first. :)  I have not
> figured out how to create components just yet and I have not found a
> good tutorial or instructions (I just installed it yesterday). The
> help file it comes with is not that good.
> 

Yes. The learning curve is quite steep at the beginning. The printed 
tutorial (not sure if it is included in the freeware) leads you quite 
thoroughly through the process but still leaves many questions open. And 
as for the answer "why don't you ... ", it might be because we don't 
have much time for running the hobby projects we want to these days and 
approaching the learning of another tool would put the projects even 
further... ;-)

P.S. The good news is that everybody I discussed with about this matter, 
confirmed that you just have to get over the first threshold and 
creating the parts becomes really easy and intuitive after that.

RajW wrote:
> 
> good tutorial or instructions (I just installed it yesterday). The

Uuups, forgive me. Then you better play around with the
schematics editor and the router engine for two or three
months. Making schematics is really very easy with Eagle,
making a good layout (handcrafted) needs some skills to
become fast and efficient.

For all the info about commands and How-To's, I mostly read
the integrated help (more as a book than by different help
issues). Additionally CAD-Soft has got detailed User manuals
as PDF. In my opinion it is very important to understand the
general CAD construction concept behind the user interface
(many parameters can only efficiently be set by the CLI -
command line interface of Eagle).

After that, constructing new components and whole libraries
isn't a big step anymore.

But I have to admit, that I didn't learn Eagle by myself, I
got help from a friend, who used Eagle for several years and
we made a 6 hours workshop (mainly for the router).


Womo

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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:52:41 +0100, Wolfgang Moser
<pwnah@d81.de.invalid> wrote:
>Uuups, forgive me. Then you better play around with the
>schematics editor and the router engine for two or three
>months.

No worries Womo... I will not kill-filter you. haha! :) I value your
input and your help in this newsgroup.

>issues). Additionally CAD-Soft has got detailed User manuals
>as PDF.

I *just* found the PDF files. I am working through the tutorials now.
I'm working on an RS232 interface for the C64 using a 16550 so we can
have UART support. I found a few designs out there but they either did
not use a UART or they used 1488 and 1489 chips instead of the newer
MAX233. I have the design in my head... but I need to put it down on
paper for you guys to review. Of course it will also need drivers.
*sigh*

/*Raj*/

Hallo Raj,


> It figures the one part I am looking for is not there... the good old
> 16550 UART. Anyone seen it for Eagle?

Have it, but the shown email address seems to be invalid. Mine is
valid, so send me an email so I can send you the library on my turn.


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Hey Ruud,

On 13 Jan 2004 06:11:34 -0800, Ruud.Baltissen@abp.nl (Ruud Baltissen)
wrote:
>Have it, but the shown email address seems to be invalid. Mine is
>valid, so send me an email so I can send you the library on my turn.

I think I found what I was looking for in the file "exar.lbr". Is
yours any different?

Thanks,
/*Raj*/

Hallo Raj,


> I think I found what I was looking for in the file "exar.lbr". Is
> yours any different?

The EXAR one looks better, I must say.


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On 15 Jan 2004 03:57:33 -0800, Ruud.Baltissen@abp.nl (Ruud Baltissen)
wrote:
>The EXAR one looks better, I must say.

Ok. Cool. The people on the Eagle help forums are very prompt. They
were the ones who pointed me to the correct library file.

/*Raj*/

RajW wrote:

> 
> Ok. Cool. The people on the Eagle help forums are very prompt.

.... sometimes, I would say. Once I was looking for the 6-pin DIN socket 
for.. you know for what, don't you ;-) and I got a number of answers 
like "DIY" ...

> They were the ones who pointed me to the correct library file.

.... and eventually someone told me to look into "Hirschman" library.

silverdr wrote:
> 
> ... and eventually someone told me to look into "Hirschman" library.
> 
Funny you had to ask in the first place: when I click ADD, and type DIN 
into the search box, I get to these connectors immediately. 

Regards, 
Michael 

Michael J. Sch=FClke wrote:

> silverdr wrote:
>=20
>>... and eventually someone told me to look into "Hirschman" library.
>>
>=20
> Funny you had to ask in the first place: when I click ADD, and type DIN=
=20
> into the search box, I get to these connectors immediately.=20

Funny indeed ;-) It was some time ago so I don't recall why I didn't do=20
as you just wrote.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:12:40 +0100, Michael J. Sch�lke
<news0310@mjschuelke.de> wrote:
>Funny you had to ask in the first place: when I click ADD, and type DIN 
>into the search box, I get to these connectors immediately. 

Yeah... that's kind of the problem also... I was looking for a 16550
chip but I never found it because it was listed as 16c550. :)

/*Raj*/