Hi everybody.  I was hoping to get some advice on transferring games
from my Mac to my C-64.

I have all my C-64 games archived on Iomega Zip disks.  I have a
MacBook (my main comp) with a USB / SCSI Zip drive, as well I have a
Prolific USB-RS232 adapter.  I have a PC with a 5.25 floppy.  My C-64
has the 1541-II drive.

I have read so much on the net about various ways to transfer data my
head is spinning, so I thought I would ask your opinions on the best
way to do this.  I am able to build cables, adapters, circuit boards,
etc. but have almost no C-64 experience as I just picked up this
machine recently.

My goal is to transfer some of the games I like to floppies so I can
play them on the C-64.

Can anyone suggest how I can best do this?

Thanks,
Ryan

In article <1194991902.494007.270930@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
 ryanfransen@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi everybody.  I was hoping to get some advice on transferring games
> from my Mac to my C-64.
> 
> I have all my C-64 games archived on Iomega Zip disks.  I have a
> MacBook (my main comp) with a USB / SCSI Zip drive, as well I have a
> Prolific USB-RS232 adapter.  I have a PC with a 5.25 floppy.  My C-64
> has the 1541-II drive.
> 
> I have read so much on the net about various ways to transfer data my
> head is spinning, so I thought I would ask your opinions on the best
> way to do this.  I am able to build cables, adapters, circuit boards,
> etc. but have almost no C-64 experience as I just picked up this
> machine recently.
> 
> My goal is to transfer some of the games I like to floppies so I can
> play them on the C-64.
> 
> Can anyone suggest how I can best do this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ryan

Hello!

I'm using a mac also, so I can help you.

What version of the OS on your mac are you using?

How are the games archived on the Iomega disks?  Are they in an emulator 
format?

It's not too hard, but there are a few steps, and you really need either 
a 1571 or a 1581 to make it easier.

I am lazy and don't want to build or buy cables so this is how I used to 
do it with my macs...

1) transfer the .d64 file from the iomega to either a 5 1/4" or a 3 1/2" 
DOS disk (the mac can write these).

2) put the DOS disk into either a 1571 or a 1581 connected to your 
Commodore and transfer the file to a commodore disk using "Big Blue 
Reader" or a similar utility.

3) use a program like "d64it" or "d128it" to transfer the emulator .d64 
files back to a "real" 1541 floppy.

Thats it!!

More info on "d64it" here...

http://www.kludgesoft.com/c64/d64it.html

Let me know if you need more help!!

Douglas

:)

On Nov 13, 2:11 pm, ryanfran...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi everybody.  I was hoping to get some advice on transferring games
> from my Mac to my C-64.
>
> I have all my C-64 games archived on Iomega Zip disks.  I have a
> MacBook (my main comp) with a USB / SCSI Zip drive, as well I have a
> Prolific USB-RS232 adapter.  I have a PC with a 5.25 floppy.  My C-64
> has the 1541-II drive.
>
> I have read so much on the net about various ways to transfer data my
> head is spinning, so I thought I would ask your opinions on the best
> way to do this.  I am able to build cables, adapters, circuit boards,
> etc. but have almost no C-64 experience as I just picked up this
> machine recently.
>
> My goal is to transfer some of the games I like to floppies so I can
> play them on the C-64.
>
> Can anyone suggest how I can best do this?
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan

It *might* be possible to get a KeySpan USB->Parallel Port adapter and
use an XE-1541 cable to connect your 1541-II to it.  Then use the
CBM4Win file transfer program in Windows (use boot camp or run it
under Parallels Desktop for Mac or VMWare Fusion).

It's not a native OSX->1541 solution, but it might get you there.
I'll be trying this in a few months when I get time using my Macbook
Pro and 1541C.

Hi Doug - Thanks for the info.  Answers...and questions below.

> What version of the OS on your mac are you using?
OSX 10.4.1 Also dual booting with Bootcamp/WinXP

> How are the games archived on the Iomega disks?  Are they in an emulator
> format?
Yes - .d64 format


> It's not too hard, but there are a few steps, and you really need either
> a 1571 or a 1581 to make it easier.
Unfortunately, I only have a single 1541 II


> 2) put the DOS disk into either a 1571 or a 1581 connected to your
> Commodore and transfer the file to a commodore disk using "Big Blue
> Reader" or a similar utility.

Now this may be a silly question - How do I get "Big Blue Reader" onto
the C64?  I assume I would have to download it and throw it on a C64
formatted floppy.

Is this method still possible with only the single 1541?


Thanks,
Ryan

> It *might* be possible to get a KeySpan USB->Parallel Port adapter and
> use an XE-1541 cable to connect your 1541-II to it.  Then use the
> CBM4Win file transfer program in Windows (use boot camp or run it
> under Parallels Desktop for Mac or VMWare Fusion).

Hi - Never thought of this... I do use bootcamp w/XP on my Macbook, so
this definitely is an option.

Sounds elegant - I will see if I can round up the USB-Parallel
adapter.

Thanks for the info.

Ryan

Dr. Video wrote:

> It *might* be possible to get a KeySpan USB->Parallel Port adapter and
> use an XE-1541 cable to connect your 1541-II to it.

Unfortunately that doesn't work. The OP needs one of these:

<http://www.harbaum.org/till/xu1541/index.shtml>

-- 
Golan Klinger 
Dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.

In article <1195012024.181688.127570@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
 ryanfransen@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Doug - Thanks for the info.  Answers...and questions below.
> 
> > What version of the OS on your mac are you using?
> OSX 10.4.1 Also dual booting with Bootcamp/WinXP
> 
> > How are the games archived on the Iomega disks?  Are they in an emulator
> > format?
> Yes - .d64 format
> 
> 
> > It's not too hard, but there are a few steps, and you really need either
> > a 1571 or a 1581 to make it easier.
> Unfortunately, I only have a single 1541 II
> 
> 
> > 2) put the DOS disk into either a 1571 or a 1581 connected to your
> > Commodore and transfer the file to a commodore disk using "Big Blue
> > Reader" or a similar utility.
> 
> Now this may be a silly question - How do I get "Big Blue Reader" onto
> the C64?  I assume I would have to download it and throw it on a C64
> formatted floppy.
> 
> Is this method still possible with only the single 1541?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ryan

Hello!

You're correct you would have to download a copy of "Big Blue Reader" or 
purchase it.  Honestly, unless you get a 1571 or a 1581, OR use the 
cable method, I think that you're screwed.  As far as I know, you NEED 
the 1571 or 1581, I don't think that a 1541 can do it, although I could 
be wrong.

HOWEVER, a 1571 costs like what, $5.00?  Seriously, just get a 1571 
drive and you're set.  I'm sure that if you can't find a copy of "Big 
Blue Reader" to purchase someone can make a copy and send it too you, 
unless it's still available for purchase legally, which I don't think it 
is.

Some people are all excited about the "hooking the 1541 via a cable to 
their new machine" method, but I'm not one of them...I guess I'm just 
old fashioned, but I prefer to do my transfers using disks and original 
Commodore equipment and transfer software, but to each his own.

Douglas

:)

P.S.  If you can't find a 1571 or "Big Blue Reader" let me know and I'll 
see what I can do!

P.P.S.  Where are you located?

In article <1195012024.181688.127570@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
 ryanfransen@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Doug - Thanks for the info.  Answers...and questions below.
> 
> > What version of the OS on your mac are you using?
> OSX 10.4.1 Also dual booting with Bootcamp/WinXP
> 
> > How are the games archived on the Iomega disks?  Are they in an emulator
> > format?
> Yes - .d64 format
> 
> 
> > It's not too hard, but there are a few steps, and you really need either
> > a 1571 or a 1581 to make it easier.
> Unfortunately, I only have a single 1541 II
> 
> 
> > 2) put the DOS disk into either a 1571 or a 1581 connected to your
> > Commodore and transfer the file to a commodore disk using "Big Blue
> > Reader" or a similar utility.
> 
> Now this may be a silly question - How do I get "Big Blue Reader" onto
> the C64?  I assume I would have to download it and throw it on a C64
> formatted floppy.
> 
> Is this method still possible with only the single 1541?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ryan

Hey, you can buy a copy of "Big Blue Reader" here...

http://www.geocities.com/c64-128-amiga/sale/soft.txt

These guys are great, I have bought from them in the past with no 
problems!!!

Douglas

:)

Macintosh Dragon wrote:

> Hey, you can buy a copy of "Big Blue Reader" here...
>
> http://www.geocities.com/c64-128-amiga/sale/soft.txt
>
> These guys are great, I have bought from them in the past with no 
> problems!!!

Me too. I couldn't agree more. They're nice people and their prices are 
the very definition of fair.

-- 
Golan Klinger 
Dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.

> > Hey, you can buy a copy of "Big Blue Reader" here...
> >http://www.geocities.com/c64-128-amiga/sale/soft.txt
>
> Me too. I couldn't agree more. They're nice people and their prices are
> the very definition of fair.
>
> --
> Golan Klinger
> Dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.


> Dr. Video wrote:
> > It *might* be possible to get a KeySpan USB->Parallel Port adapter and
> > use an XE-1541 cable to connect your 1541-II to it.

> Unfortunately that doesn't work. The OP needs one of these:
> <http://www.harbaum.org/till/xu1541/index.shtml>


Hey thanks everybody - I appreciate all the help - I'll check out both
methods and see what I can whip up.

A friend and I were reminiscing about the good ol' days with 'Summer
Games', etc. last night - so now I can't wait to get this thing fired
up!

Ryan

On Nov 13, 3:11 pm, ryanfran...@gmail.com wrote:
> I was hoping to get some advice on
> transferring games from my Mac to my C-64.

This method works with my C128 and an HP WINDOWS XP system.

You will need a Commodore RS232 interface and a null modem.
C= RS232 interfaces were (are?) made for either the user or game
ports.  In addition, you will need a C= terminal program like
NOVATERM.  I use an old NT10 version, but I have heard that NT9.6 will
work nicely on C64s.  For some reason, the newer version of NT10
doesn't work for me.  If you need NT, I can mail you a couple of
floppies.  On my PC side, the null modem connects to a serial port
while the computer runs HYPERTERM.

Once I needed to transfer a 780KB GIF file between machines.  This
won't fit on any 1571 or 1581 MS DOS formatted disks.  Runnig an older
terminal program using XMODEM didn't work either because the file
transfer failed after 2/3 of the file was sent.  The only way I could
transfer the file was with NT10 using ZMODEM protocol.  The other
methods mentioned in this thread limit files to those that fit on
floppy disks.

>>>>> "r" == ryanfransen  <ryanfransen@gmail.com> writes:

r> Hi everybody. I was hoping to get some advice on transferring games
r> from my Mac to my C-64.

r> Can anyone suggest how I can best do this?

I'd recommend a Retro Replay cartridge with an RR-Net ethernet
adapter. To solve the chicken and egg problem, type in minislave:

  http://www.paradroid.net/udpslave/

Save it to disk, and then you can send over PRG files, which allows
you to run WarpCopy (in Windows) or DiskImagery (in MacOS X).

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:11:42 -0800, ryanfransen@gmail.com wrote:

>Hi everybody.  I was hoping to get some advice on transferring games
>from my Mac to my C-64.

I am not familiar with Macs at all, so my advice may be completely
useless: The only way I am aware of, is to build an XU1541 cable and
use the OpenCBM software. This cable and the software support for it
is still in fairly early development, but I think they are able to
successfully transfer disks at this stage.

>I have all my C-64 games archived on Iomega Zip disks.  I have a
>MacBook (my main comp) with a USB / SCSI Zip drive, as well I have a
>Prolific USB-RS232 adapter. I have a PC with a 5.25 floppy.  My C-64
>has the 1541-II drive.

The 5.25" on the PC is no help unless you buy a special floppy
controller card.

Can you get the Zip drive to work on the PC or otherwise transfer data
from the Mac to the PC? Does the PC have a parallel port? If so, you
can (probably) connect the 1541 to the PC with a fairly simple cable
and use freely available software to transfer.
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