It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
original state prior to malfunction.

This does not always work, however, and furthermore the dreamer must
dream about the lost data and try to visually "re-create it" within the
dreaming landscape. It is suggested that this technique works in 1 out
of every 150 cases.

Paul

dunric@yahoo.com wrote:
> It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
> sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
> signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
> thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
> original state prior to malfunction.
> 
> This does not always work, however, and furthermore the dreamer must
> dream about the lost data and try to visually "re-create it" within the
> dreaming landscape. It is suggested that this technique works in 1 out
> of every 150 cases.
> 
> Paul
> 
I know you were chagrined to be absent from CommVEX, but I believe you, 
sir, have snapped.

Take two disks, pop them into your drives, play a game or two, stuff 
them in your pillow if you must, have a good rest, and call on a 
professional in the morning.

Jim

-- 
Jim Brain, Brain Innovations
brain@jbrain.com                                http://www.jbrain.com
Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!

dunric@yahoo.com wrote:
> It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and

Buhahahahhhhh!!! BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH!!!!

-- 
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Dog crawls under doors, programs crawls under windows...

<dunric@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1123126704.614736.96180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
> sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
> signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
> thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
> original state prior to malfunction.
>
> This does not always work, however, and furthermore the dreamer must
> dream about the lost data and try to visually "re-create it" within the
> dreaming landscape. It is suggested that this technique works in 1 out
> of every 150 cases.
>

Tell me you're joking Paul... Paul?!

Actually, yes, this post was meant to be humorous. :) I was stressed
out today and wanted some relief, so I posted this post. No, I've never
tried it.

Paul

Clockmeister wrote:
> <dunric@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1123126704.614736.96180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> > CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
> > sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
> > signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
> > thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
> > original state prior to malfunction.
> >
> > This does not always work, however, and furthermore the dreamer must
> > dream about the lost data and try to visually "re-create it" within the
> > dreaming landscape. It is suggested that this technique works in 1 out
> > of every 150 cases.
> >
> 
> Tell me you're joking Paul... Paul?!

<dunric@yahoo.com> wrote ...

> It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
> sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
> signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
> thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
> original state prior to malfunction.
>
> This does not always work, however, and furthermore the dreamer must
> dream about the lost data and try to visually "re-create it" within the
> dreaming landscape. It is suggested that this technique works in 1 out
> of every 150 cases.

Side note to Cameron: Protect your monitor from Dr Pepper before reading
further.

A word of warning!  Your dream _must_ be 100% accurate.  Should your dream be
even a little bit corrupted, you will damage more data than you fix.

Whatever you do, _do not_ eat pizza, snort coke, or smoke any funny
cigarettes before going to bed.

And, do not place any Playboy, Hustler, or similar magazines under your
pillow with the disk.  If you do the disk may self-destruct when it has an
orgasm.
-- 
Best regards,

Sam Gillett

Change is inevitable,
except from vending machines!

150 years from now, some 'Internet Archaeologist" will discover this post, 
and think that this is exactly what we used to do to recover lost data.  Way 
to rewrite future history!

Chris

<dunric@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1123126704.614736.96180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
> sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
> signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
> thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
> original state prior to malfunction.
>
> This does not always work, however, and furthermore the dreamer must
> dream about the lost data and try to visually "re-create it" within the
> dreaming landscape. It is suggested that this technique works in 1 out
> of every 150 cases.
>
> Paul
> 

<dunric@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1123129961.197374.243530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Actually, yes, this post was meant to be humorous. :) I was stressed
> out today and wanted some relief, so I posted this post. No, I've never
> tried it.
>

Ok Paul, that was pretty funny but for a split moment there I thought you
had lost the plot ;-)

dunric@yahoo.com wrote:
> It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
> sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
> signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
> thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
> original state prior to malfunction.

ROTFL... This is the funniest stuff I've read in a while here!

May you live 100 years, Paul ! :-)

Riccardo 

> It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
> sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
> signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
> thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
> original state prior to malfunction.
> 
LOL!  NICE!

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dunric@yahoo.com wrote in news:1123126704.614736.96180
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
> sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
> signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
> thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
> original state prior to malfunction.
> 
> This does not always work, however, and furthermore the dreamer must
> dream about the lost data and try to visually "re-create it" within the
> dreaming landscape. It is suggested that this technique works in 1 out
> of every 150 cases.
> 
> Paul
> 

Hehe...  You've been huffing drive head cleaner, haven't you?

Seriously, though, I can never tell when you're kidding.  Perhaps you're on 
to something with this one, but how would electromagnetic signals correct 
errors on optical media?

On a disk, it might work. It's basically a weak magnetic field that
puts data there in the first place, so it stands to reason that a
similar magnetic field can restore it (given memory of what was already
there).

Seriously, I've had dreams where I was sitting at the computer,
re-creating data on disks merely by thinking them back into existence.
Sort of like "computational telepathy."

Paul

Six wrote:
> dunric@yahoo.com wrote in news:1123126704.614736.96180
> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
> > It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> > CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
> > sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
> > signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
> > thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
> > original state prior to malfunction.
> >
> > This does not always work, however, and furthermore the dreamer must
> > dream about the lost data and try to visually "re-create it" within the
> > dreaming landscape. It is suggested that this technique works in 1 out
> > of every 150 cases.
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
> Hehe...  You've been huffing drive head cleaner, haven't you?
>
> Seriously, though, I can never tell when you're kidding.  Perhaps you're on
> to something with this one, but how would electromagnetic signals correct
> errors on optical media?

Here's some related information on EMFs and the brain:

http://www.curatronic.com/scientific8.html

"Treatment with weak electromagnetic fields improves fatigue associated
with multiple sclerosis.
It is estimated that 75-90% of patients with multiple sclerosis (MS)
experience fatigue at some point during the course of the disease and
that in about half of these patients, subjective fatigue is a primary
complaint. In the majority of patients fatigue is present throughout
the course of the day being most prominent in the mid to late
afternoon. Sleepiness is not prominent, but patients report that rest
may attenuate fatigability. The pathophysiology of the fatigue of MS
remains unknown. Delayed impulse conduction in demyelinated zones may
render transmission in the brainstem reticular formation less
effective. In addition, the observation that rest may restore energy
and that administration of pemoline and amantadine, which increase the
synthesis and release of monoamines, often improve the fatigue of MS
suggest that depletion of neurotransmitter stores in damaged neurons
may contribute significantly to the development of fatigue in these
patients. The present report concerns three MS patients who experienced
over several years continuous and debilitating fatigue throughout the
course of the day. Fatigue was exacerbated by increased physical
activity and was not improved by rest. After receiving a course of
treatments with picotesla flux electromagnetic fields (EMFs), which
were applied extracranially, all patients experienced improvement in
fatigue. Remarkably, patients noted that several months after
initiation of treatment with EMFs they were able to recover, after a
short period of rest, from fatigue which followed increased physical
activity. These observations suggest that replenishment of monoamine
stores in neurons damaged by demyelination in the brainstem reticular
formation by periodic applications of picotesla flux intensity EMFs may
lead to more effective impulse conduction and thus to improvement in
fatigue including rapid recovery of fatigue after rest."
Source: Sandyk R. NeuroCommunication Research Laboratories, Danbury,
CT, USA.

Paul
Six wrote:
> dunric@yahoo.com wrote in news:1123126704.614736.96180
> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
> > It is scientifically possible to recover lost or damaged data from a
> > CD-ROM, DVD or diskette simply by placing it under one's pillow and
> > sleeping on it overnight. The basic theory is that electromagnetic
> > signals within the brain during REM sleep may correct data errors,
> > thereby returning the fragile data structure of the media to the
> > original state prior to malfunction.
> >
> > This does not always work, however, and furthermore the dreamer must
> > dream about the lost data and try to visually "re-create it" within the
> > dreaming landscape. It is suggested that this technique works in 1 out
> > of every 150 cases.
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
> Hehe...  You've been huffing drive head cleaner, haven't you?
>
> Seriously, though, I can never tell when you're kidding.  Perhaps you're on
> to something with this one, but how would electromagnetic signals correct
> errors on optical media?

dunric@yahoo.com wrote in
news:1123171122.671726.277750@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: 

> On a disk, it might work. It's basically a weak magnetic field that
> puts data there in the first place, so it stands to reason that a
> similar magnetic field can restore it (given memory of what was
> already there).

Anyone know the field level of the r/w head on 1541?

It's a fairly strong magnetic field given the electronics involved.
Probably 10 gass.

Paul

10 gauss, rather. That's about the strength of a fridge magnet.

Paul

dun...@yahoo.com wrote:
> It's a fairly strong magnetic field given the electronics involved.
> Probably 10 gass.
> 
> Paul

Jim Brain kirjoitti:
> I know you were chagrined to be absent from CommVEX, but I believe you, 
> sir, have snapped.

At least he didn't suggest to recover data by sleeping WITH it... ;)

....and as he later let us know, the post was meant to be humorous. 
"Somehow" many of us just couldn't be sure if he was serious or not. :)

-Miika

dunric@yahoo.com wrote in news:1123174290.387284.207020
@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> 10 gauss, rather. That's about the strength of a fridge magnet.
> 
> Paul
> 
> dun...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> It's a fairly strong magnetic field given the electronics involved.
>> Probably 10 gass.
>> 
>> Paul
> 
> 

Ok.  Now what's the strength of the electromagnetic fields in the human 
brain?

Minimal. The earth has a  core magnetic field strength of 1 gauss. But
let me research that and get back to the subject later.

Paul

Found this online:

"The human brain's magnetic field is extremely weak, on the order of
10-12 Tesla, which is a hundred million times weaker than the earth's
magnetic field. Detecting such a weak field requires special
equipment."

Paul

"Six" <Six@darklordsofchaos.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone know the field level of the r/w head on 1541?

Not sure about the 1541 specifically, but:

"the information stored on a magnetic floppy disk is affected by magnetic
fields as low as a hundred gauss"
http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/405/asthana.html

I couldn't help but be curious...the average field strength of the human
brain turns out to be:
0.000000001 gauss.

Incidentally, the earth's magnetic field is, on average, 0.5 gauss.

(I don't know anything about this, just spent a few minutes Googling.)

Therefore, to show just how ridiculous Paul's theory is, but the human brain
would have to be 100,000,000,000 times more powerful to even begin to affect
a floppy disk.  As it is, the Earth's magnetic field overpowers it by a
factor of 500 million.

But I can just see it now, at the next Expo we'll have a demo of someone
(Paul) trying to format a floppy disk with his mind, amplified with some
crazy antenna contraption.

Hi there...

dunric@yahoo.com wrote:

> "The human brain's magnetic field is extremely weak, on the order of
> 10-12 Tesla, which is a hundred million times weaker than the earth's
> magnetic field. Detecting such a weak field requires special
> equipment."

Where's that from? I think they are too high several orders of 
magnitude. IIRC the NMR-Device used in our workgroup has a magnet with a 
flux density (that's what Tesla actually describes) of something around 
7. And this one is a superconductor-electromagnet which has to be cooled 
with liquid Helium.
Maybe they meant "Gauss", which is 10^-4 Tesla.

Dave

....ah, ok, got it. It was more like "10^-12" Tsla for a human brain... 
sorry for the geeking around with science :)

Dave

"Leif Bloomquist" <spam@127.0.0.1301> wrote in
news:11f4khe8t8qva35@news.supernews.com: 

> "Six" <Six@darklordsofchaos.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96A87EE821ADFSixdarklordsofchaosc@63.223.7.253...
> 
>> Anyone know the field level of the r/w head on 1541?
> 
> Not sure about the 1541 specifically, but:
> 
> "the information stored on a magnetic floppy disk is affected by
> magnetic fields as low as a hundred gauss"
> http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/405/asthana.html
> 
This leads me to wonder what the typical variance in field strength is, and 
if it might be possible to exploit that variance as a technique for data 
forensics on old floppies...

> But I can just see it now, at the next Expo we'll have a demo of someone
> (Paul) trying to format a floppy disk with his mind, amplified with some
> crazy antenna contraption.
> 
I'm thinking something like this??
http://frontpage.erie.net/charting/Back_to_Doc.jpg

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I slipped a formatted disk under my pillow last night and slept on it
for over 8 hours. I reasoned that some magnetic changes might occur,
given the output of the weak magnetic field within my brain.

Nothing changed, that I could see, but I didn't look at it in a disk
editor just yet. The directory is still visible.

I sent my theory off to NASA, but I'm sure they'll have a good laugh at
that one.

Paul

Oldbitcollector wrote:
> > But I can just see it now, at the next Expo we'll have a demo of someone
> > (Paul) trying to format a floppy disk with his mind, amplified with some
> > crazy antenna contraption.
> >
> I'm thinking something like this??
> http://frontpage.erie.net/charting/Back_to_Doc.jpg
>
> Oldbitcollector
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"Leif Bloomquist" <spam@127.0.0.1301> writes:

> the human brain would have to be 100,000,000,000 times more powerful
> to even begin to affect a floppy disk.

I wonder how much headache one would have if the brain held a such
magnetic field. Maybe it will be possible through genetic manipulation
though - some animal or plant got to generate strong magnetic fields
which we can utilize.

It starts to sound like a Marvel super hero, someone with a brain strong
enough to format a floppy, or why not a hard disk once we're onto it?

-- 
Anders Carlsson

"Leif Bloomquist" wrote ...
>
> But I can just see it now, at the next Expo we'll have a demo of someone
> (Paul) trying to format a floppy disk with his mind, amplified with some
> crazy antenna contraption.

Maybe Paper Paul could be equipped with an aluminum foil antenna?    ;-)

BTW, does anyone know how I could format a 5.25" floppy in my dot matrix
printer?
-- 
Best regards,

Sam Gillett

Change is inevitable,
except from vending machines!

Leif Bloomquist wrote:
> Therefore, to show just how ridiculous Paul's theory is, but the human brain
> would have to be 100,000,000,000 times more powerful to even begin to affect
> a floppy disk.  As it is, the Earth's magnetic field overpowers it by a
> factor of 500 million.
> 
My brain is 100,000,000,000 times more powerful than yours. Uri Gellar 
taught me to bend disks with my mind.

dunric@yahoo.com wrote:

> Seriously, I've had dreams where I was sitting at the computer,
> re-creating data on disks merely by thinking them back into existence.
> Sort of like "computational telepathy."

Sound like realy boring dreams...
In you dream, did it work? :P

-R-

Curtis F Kaylor wrote:

> My brain is 100,000,000,000 times more powerful than yours. Uri Gellar 
> taught me to bend disks with my mind.

You really shouldn't bend disks... It shortens the lifespan... Nor 
should you sleep on it, it would bend the disk... Which can only mean 
that during sleep, ones brain is 100,000,000,000 times more powerful.

-R-

Curtis F Kaylor <curtis@example.com> writes:

> Uri Gellar taught me to bend disks with my mind.

Would it not be more appropriate to learn how to fix read errors
with your mind, or maybe remove copy protection?

-- 
Anders Carlsson

Anders Carlsson wrote:
> Curtis F Kaylor <curtis@example.com> writes:
>>Uri Gellar taught me to bend disks with my mind.
> Would it not be more appropriate to learn how to fix read errors
> with your mind, or maybe remove copy protection?
> 
It would be, but that's a lot harder to fake.

"Anders Carlsson" wrote ...

> Curtis F Kaylor <curtis@example.com> writes:
>
>> Uri Gellar taught me to bend disks with my mind.
>
> Would it not be more appropriate to learn how to fix read errors
> with your mind, or maybe remove copy protection?

How about a soldering iron "plug-in" for the mind of the disk psychic?  Then
equipment with cold solder joints could be fixed without opening the case!
;-)
-- 
Best regards,

Sam Gillett

Change is inevitable,
except from vending machines!

"Jinxed computer users might be sending out a bad vibe, researchers suggest"

http://www.canada.com/technology/story.html?id=f6ebf013-4d44-4f13-90a2-a938292f4739

Choice quote: "The experiments appear to demonstrate a small, but
statistically significant, anomaly: study subjects seem to be able to change
the output of the machines merely by thinking about them."

I read it on the Internet, so it must be true!

O_o


-- 
Leif Bloomquist
leif (at) schema factor (dot) com
http://home.ica.net/~leifb/