Hey, thanks to everyone out there who has contributed to the complete
(?) Commodore 128 Commercial software list. Here is the NEWEST
version...Thanks!!
Commercial Commodore 128 Specific Software
3-D Canvas v1.7
Accountant, Inc. 128
A Mind Forever Voyaging
Basic 8
Basic 8 Toolkit
Basic Compiler 128
Better Working WordPro 128
Beurocracy
Beyond Zork
Big Blue Reader
Blitz 128
Bobsterm Pro 128
Brainstorm 128
Buddy 128 Assembler Development System
Business Form Shop
CadPak 128
ChartPak 128
CMS General Accounting 128
CMS Inventory 128
Cobol 128
Colorez 128
Copy II Version 3.4
Data Manager 128
DeskPack Plus
DFile 128
Dialogue 128
Digitalker 128
Family Roots 128
FasTrac 128
File 128
Fleet System 4
Flex File 128 Database
Fontmaster 128
FontPack Plus
Format Executive 3.0
GEOS 128
Geo-Calc 128
Geo-Fax
Geo-File 128
Geo-Shell
Geo-Write 128
Ghostwriter 128
Gnome Speed Compiler 128
Home designer 128
Ipaint
Jane
KFS Accountant 128
Keyboard Controlled Sequencer
Kikstart 128
Kyan Pascal
Landmark 2.0: The Computer Reference Bible
Last V8
Mach 128
Maidstone Quest
Mail List 128
Master Paint
Matrix 128
Merlin 128
Micro Detective Automatic Error Detection
MicroIllustrator 128
News Maker 128
Oxford Pascal 128
Paperback Filer
Paperback Writer
Paperclip III
Partner 128
Personal Portfolio Manager 128
Pocket Filer 3
Pocket Planner 3
Pocket Writer 3
Poster Maker 128
PPM 128
Proterm 128
Protolinc BBS
RAMDOS
SEC Check Register 128
Securities Analyst 128
ShadowDOS
Sideways 128
Sketchpad 128
Sm Compiler 128
Spectrum 128
Speedterm 128
Superbase 128
Super 81 Utilities 128
Super C 128
Super Disk Librarian 128
Super Disk Utilities 128
Super Pascal 128
Super Sequencer 128
Superscript 128
Swiftcalc 128
Sylvia Porter's Investment Manager 128
Tarot 128
Technical Analysis System 128
Team-Mate 128
Term Paper Writer
Thai Boxing 128
The strategist
TISAR 128 V2.2
Trinity
Ultima V *
VizaStar 128
VizaWrite 128
Warp Speed
Wheels 128
Wordfile 128
Word Pro 128
Word Writer 128
Word Worker
Write Stuff 128
XREF BASIC Cross Reference
* Programs with Asterix next to them run in 64 mode but are enhanced
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Sorry about this...yet another update with a few more that I forgot to
add...newest list.....
Commercial Commodore 128 Specific Software
1581 Tool Kit
3-D Canvas v1.7
Accountant, Inc. 128
A Mind Forever Voyaging
Basic 8
Basic 8 Toolkit
Basic Compiler 128
Better Working WordPro 128
Beurocracy
Beyond Zork
Big Blue Reader
Blitz 128
Bobsterm Pro 128
Brainstorm 128
Buddy 128 Assembler Development System
Business Form Shop
CBase BBS
CadPak 128
ChartPak 128
Checkbook
CMS General Accounting 128
CMS Inventory 128
Cobol 128
Colorez 128
Copy II Version 3.4
Data Manager 128
DeskPack Plus
DFile 128
Dialogue 128
Digitalker 128
Family Roots 128
FasTrac 128
File 128
Fleet System 4
Flex File 128 Database
Fontmaster 128
FontPack Plus
Format Executive 3.0
GEOS 128
Geo-Calc 128
Geo-Fax
Geo-File 128
Geo-Shell
Geo-Write 128
Ghostwriter 128
Gnome Speed Compiler 128
Guitar Tuner
Home designer 128
Ipaint
Jane
KFS Accountant 128
Keyboard Controlled Sequencer
Kikstart 128
Kyan Pascal
Landmark 2.0: The Computer Reference Bible
Last V8
Mach 128
Maidstone Quest
Mail List 128
Many Happy Returns
Master Paint
Matrix 128
Merlin 128
Micro Detective Automatic Error Detection
MicroIllustrator 128
Money Works
News Maker 128
Oxford Pascal 128
Paperback Filer
Paperback Writer
Paperclip III
Partner 128
Personal Portfolio Manager 128
Pocket Filer 3
Pocket Planner 3
Pocket Writer 3
Poster Maker 128
PPM 128
Proterm 128
Protolinc BBS
Pro Tutor Accounting
RAMDOS
SEC Check Register 128
Securities Analyst 128
ShadowDOS
Sideways 128
Sketchpad 128
Sm Compiler 128
Spectrum 128
Speedterm 128
StoryWriter 128
Superbase 128
Super 81 Utilities 128
Super C 128
Super Disk Librarian 128
Super Disk Utilities 128
Super Pascal 128
Super Sequencer 128
Superscript 128
Swiftcalc 128
Sylvia Porter's Investment Manager 128
Tarot 128
Technical Analysis System 128
Team-Mate 128
Term Paper Writer
Thai Boxing 128
The strategist
TISAR 128 V2.2
Trinity
Ultima V *
VizaStar 128
VizaWrite 128
Warp Speed
Wheels 128
Wordfile 128
Word Pro 128
Word Writer 128
Word Worker
Write Stuff 128
XREF BASIC Cross Reference
* Programs with Asterix next to them run in 64 mode but are enhanced
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Douglas Carroll wrote:
> Sorry about this...yet another update with a few more that I forgot to
> add...newest list.....
I might have a few more to add to the list in a few days.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
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Douglas Carroll <dcarroll14@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hey, thanks to everyone out there who has contributed to the complete
> (?) Commodore 128 Commercial software list. Here is the NEWEST
> version...Thanks!!
What about GEOS MegaPatch3 128, it runs in Color AND 640x200 on an
64kB VRAM equipped C128. (in opposite to wheels128)
regards, Andreas
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Douglas Carroll wrote:
> 1581 Tool Kit
The 1581 Toolkit is not a 128 program but a 64 program.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
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Wasn't there a version of the game Rocky Horror Show for the C128?
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1581 Toolkit is supposed to run under the 128 in 128 mode...I'll double
check for certain this week....
Douglas
In article <Pine.GSO.4.61.0411240338530.27471@shell1>,
Robert Bernardo <rbernardo@iglou.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Douglas Carroll wrote:
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> > 1581 Tool Kit
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> The 1581 Toolkit is not a 128 program but a 64 program.
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> Truly,
> Robert Bernardo
> Fresno Commodore User Group
> http://videocam.net.au/fcug
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I cannot confirm this for certain...can anyone else?
Douglas
In article <ja59q095ee9vq1qlhn9pbhtuhl5tj8t7r2@4ax.com>,
Milton Banana <blah@nildram.com> wrote:
> Wasn't there a version of the game Rocky Horror Show for the C128?
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Douglas Carroll <dcarroll14@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<dcarroll14-CF5A71.18354323112004@news1.west.earthlink.net>...
> Hey, thanks to everyone out there who has contributed to the complete
> (?) Commodore 128 Commercial software list. Here is the NEWEST
> version...Thanks!!
[snip]
> * Programs with Asterix next to them run in 64 mode but are enhanced
> when run on a 128.
Then we should also include Gunship (military helicopter simulation)
which puts the processor in 2MHz mode when the raster beam is
offscreen. Don't know if Novaterm is considered a commercial program
(I think it was sold as shareware), but if you run it in 64 mode on a
128 you get access to the 128's 80-column screen and you can use part
of the VDC memory as a RAM disk (IIRC).
Niklas Ramsberg
aka
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(:) Bacon
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Was this a commercial program? Is it available for download anywhere?
Thanks!!
Douglas
:)
In article <8487c058.0411240016.4fefe212@posting.google.com>,
a_berger@despammed.com (Andreas Berger) wrote:
> Douglas Carroll <dcarroll14@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Hey, thanks to everyone out there who has contributed to the complete
> > (?) Commodore 128 Commercial software list. Here is the NEWEST
> > version...Thanks!!
>
> What about GEOS MegaPatch3 128, it runs in Color AND 640x200 on an
> 64kB VRAM equipped C128. (in opposite to wheels128)
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> regards, Andreas
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> Then we should also include Gunship (military helicopter simulation)
> which puts the processor in 2MHz mode when the raster beam is
> offscreen. Don't know if Novaterm is considered a commercial program
> (I think it was sold as shareware), but if you run it in 64 mode on a
> 128 you get access to the 128's 80-column screen and you can use part
> of the VDC memory as a RAM disk (IIRC).
If we include shareware, we can probably add at least a thousand titles to
the list of C128 software. :-)
--
Best regards,
Sam Gillett
Change is inevitable,
except from vending machines!
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Milton Banana <blah@nildram.com> writes:
>Wasn't there a version of the game Rocky Horror Show for the C128?
Yes. The Last V8 and Ultima 6? also come to mind.
--
Cameron Kaiser * ckaiser@floodgap.com * posting with a Commodore 128
personal page: http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/
** Computer Workshops: games, productivity software and more for C64/128! **
** http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/cwi/ **
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"Sam Gillett" <samgillettnospam@diespammermsn.com> writes:
>>Then we should also include Gunship (military helicopter simulation)
>>which puts the processor in 2MHz mode when the raster beam is
>>offscreen. Don't know if Novaterm is considered a commercial program
>>(I think it was sold as shareware), but if you run it in 64 mode on a
>>128 you get access to the 128's 80-column screen and you can use part
>>of the VDC memory as a RAM disk (IIRC).
>If we include shareware, we can probably add at least a thousand titles to
>the list of C128 software. :-)
<plug=shameless>HyperLink 2.5e ... </plug>
--
Cameron Kaiser * ckaiser@floodgap.com * posting with a Commodore 128
personal page: http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/
** Computer Workshops: games, productivity software and more for C64/128! **
** http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/cwi/ **
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"Douglas Carroll" <dcarroll14@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Ultima V *
>
> * Programs with Asterix next to them run in 64 mode but are enhanced
> when run on a 128.
Then you can add Wizardry 1,2,3 and 5. They use VDC and Bank 1 RAM to stash
overlays that are otherwise loaded from disk in the C64 versions (unless
either has a REU, which can usually stash the whole game by themselves).
They can also use burst mode if 1571 drives are present.
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Hmmmmm...I don't think that I can put these in the list...all they are
doing is looking for extra RAM and I suppose would do the same thing on
a C64 if there was a ram expander present. In the Case of Ultima VI
(NOT Ultima V..My error) the game is supposed to play music ONLY on a
c128 NOT on a 64 no matter what is attached to it..this is my
understanding..please correct me if wrong. Soooooo..Ultima IV is
enhanced by running on a c128 while the Wizardy games seem to only look
for and use extra ram if present, a feat possible with a regular C64.
In article <4Mdpd.4179$uV6.361@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Anton Treuenfels" <teamtempest@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Douglas Carroll" <dcarroll14@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:dcarroll14-CF5A71.18354323112004@news1.west.earthlink.net...
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> > Ultima V *
> >
> > * Programs with Asterix next to them run in 64 mode but are enhanced
> > when run on a 128.
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> Then you can add Wizardry 1,2,3 and 5. They use VDC and Bank 1 RAM to stash
> overlays that are otherwise loaded from disk in the C64 versions (unless
> either has a REU, which can usually stash the whole game by themselves).
> They can also use burst mode if 1571 drives are present.
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> "Sam Gillett" <samgillettnospam@diespammermsn.com> writes:
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>>If we include shareware, we can probably add at least a thousand titles to
>>the list of C128 software. :-)
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> <plug=shameless>HyperLink 2.5e ... </plug>
A shameless plus in HTML... Cool! ;-)
--
Best regards,
Sam Gillett
Change is inevitable,
except from vending machines!
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Douglas Carroll <dcarroll14@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<dcarroll14-
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> Hmmmmm...I don't think that I can put these in the list...all they are
> doing is looking for extra RAM and I suppose would do the same thing on
> a C64 if there was a ram expander present.
Well, not really. Look again at what the original poster said. They
use the VDC memory and Bank 1 RAM, both of which is only available on
a C128, expanded or not. In addition, they can use an REU, which of
course can be connected to either a C128 or a C64. That's two (three
if you count the VDC and Bank1 RAM separately) very different types of
memory, one (or two; see above) of which is available on every stock
C128 but that you can't have on a C64.
> In the Case of Ultima VI (NOT Ultima V..My error) the game is supposed to
> play music ONLY on a c128 NOT on a 64 no matter what is attached to it..this
> is my understanding..please correct me if wrong.
Correct.
> Soooooo..Ultima IV is enhanced by running on a c128 while the Wizardy games
> seem to only look for and use extra ram if present, a feat possible with a
> regular C64.
See above.
Niklas Ramsberg
aka
< .
(:) Bacon
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TSDS (total software development system)
came in 64 and 128 versions. Both were included when you bought the
product.
128 version used the REU and more memory for bigger symbol tables.
kelly
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 02:36:49 GMT, Douglas Carroll
<dcarroll14@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Hey, thanks to everyone out there who has contributed to the complete
>(?) Commodore 128 Commercial software list. Here is the NEWEST
>version...Thanks!!
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>Commercial Commodore 128 Specific Software
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>3-D Canvas v1.7
>Accountant, Inc. 128
>A Mind Forever Voyaging
>Basic 8
>Basic 8 Toolkit
>Basic Compiler 128
>Better Working WordPro 128
>Beurocracy
>Beyond Zork
>Big Blue Reader
>Blitz 128
>Bobsterm Pro 128
>Brainstorm 128
>Buddy 128 Assembler Development System
>Business Form Shop
>CadPak 128
>ChartPak 128
>CMS General Accounting 128
>CMS Inventory 128
>Cobol 128
>Colorez 128
>Copy II Version 3.4
>Data Manager 128
>DeskPack Plus
>DFile 128
>Dialogue 128
>Digitalker 128
>Family Roots 128
>FasTrac 128
>File 128
>Fleet System 4
>Flex File 128 Database
>Fontmaster 128
>FontPack Plus
>Format Executive 3.0
>GEOS 128
>Geo-Calc 128
>Geo-Fax
>Geo-File 128
>Geo-Shell
>Geo-Write 128
>Ghostwriter 128
>Gnome Speed Compiler 128
>Home designer 128
>Ipaint
>Jane
>KFS Accountant 128
>Keyboard Controlled Sequencer
>Kikstart 128
>Kyan Pascal
>Landmark 2.0: The Computer Reference Bible
>Last V8
>Mach 128
>Maidstone Quest
>Mail List 128
>Master Paint
>Matrix 128
>Merlin 128
>Micro Detective Automatic Error Detection
>MicroIllustrator 128
>News Maker 128
>Oxford Pascal 128
>Paperback Filer
>Paperback Writer
>Paperclip III
>Partner 128
>Personal Portfolio Manager 128
>Pocket Filer 3
>Pocket Planner 3
>Pocket Writer 3
>Poster Maker 128
>PPM 128
>Proterm 128
>Protolinc BBS
>RAMDOS
>SEC Check Register 128
>Securities Analyst 128
>ShadowDOS
>Sideways 128
>Sketchpad 128
>Sm Compiler 128
>Spectrum 128
>Speedterm 128
>Superbase 128
>Super 81 Utilities 128
>Super C 128
>Super Disk Librarian 128
>Super Disk Utilities 128
>Super Pascal 128
>Super Sequencer 128
>Superscript 128
>Swiftcalc 128
>Sylvia Porter's Investment Manager 128
>Tarot 128
>Technical Analysis System 128
>Team-Mate 128
>Term Paper Writer
>Thai Boxing 128
>The strategist
>TISAR 128 V2.2
>Trinity
>Ultima V *
>VizaStar 128
>VizaWrite 128
>Warp Speed
>Wheels 128
>Wordfile 128
>Word Pro 128
>Word Writer 128
>Word Worker
>Write Stuff 128
>XREF BASIC Cross Reference
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> Was this a commercial program?
Yes! Take a lokk here:
http://c64.webgrimm.de/c64_geos_mp3_e.htm
or see "my" C128:
http://people.freenet.de/a_berger/images/C128D_80Zeichen.jpg
some projects for this:
http://home.t-online.de/home/wweicht/projekte.htm
> Is it available for download anywhere?
I doubt. A demo is here:
http://c64.webgrimm.de/downld_e.htm
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Hello!
I have created a addendum to the list and moved Ultima VI there and
added wizardry and others...
"Programs enhanced when run in c-64 mode on a c-128"
How does that sound?
Thanks for the input!!
Douglas
:)
In article <e22cbe5c.0411250359.254dab56@posting.google.com>,
realbacon@hotmail.com (Niklas Ramsberg) wrote:
> Douglas Carroll <dcarroll14@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<dcarroll14-
> F38B4E.21132724112004@news1.west.earthlink.net>...
> > Hmmmmm...I don't think that I can put these in the list...all they are
> > doing is looking for extra RAM and I suppose would do the same thing on
> > a C64 if there was a ram expander present.
>
> Well, not really. Look again at what the original poster said. They
> use the VDC memory and Bank 1 RAM, both of which is only available on
> a C128, expanded or not. In addition, they can use an REU, which of
> course can be connected to either a C128 or a C64. That's two (three
> if you count the VDC and Bank1 RAM separately) very different types of
> memory, one (or two; see above) of which is available on every stock
> C128 but that you can't have on a C64.
>
> > In the Case of Ultima VI (NOT Ultima V..My error) the game is supposed to
> > play music ONLY on a c128 NOT on a 64 no matter what is attached to it..this
> > is my understanding..please correct me if wrong.
>
> Correct.
>
> > Soooooo..Ultima IV is enhanced by running on a c128 while the Wizardy games
> > seem to only look for and use extra ram if present, a feat possible with a
> > regular C64.
>
> See above.
>
> Niklas Ramsberg
> aka
> < .
> (:) Bacon
> < .
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Cameron Kaiser kirjoitti viestiss�
<41a51c15$0$93259$45beb828@newscene.com>:
> Yes. The Last V8 and Ultima 6? also come to mind.
Last V8 was listed, but I think Petspeed 128 was not.
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Anything worth having is worth cheating for. - W.C. Fields
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What is Petspeed 128?
Douglas
:)
In article <MPG.1c10672b8974e55d98aca6@news.mbnet.fi>,
Jouni Nordlund <jouni.norlund@mbnet.fi> wrote:
> Cameron Kaiser kirjoitti viestiss�
> <41a51c15$0$93259$45beb828@newscene.com>:
> > Yes. The Last V8 and Ultima 6? also come to mind.
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> What is Petspeed 128?
Basic compiler, to make your Basic software more like machine code
and run it faster than the interpreter would. Compare with Pascal[1]
or C, which both traditionally require a compiler to run.
[1] Well, in the case the compiler outputs P-Code, I suppose you
need an interpreter too?
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