Good text editors for 50G?

Greetings folks, I recently got ahold of a 50G (which is as fantastic as everyone seemed to suggest, and then some), but alas, good ol' TED simply crashes when I try to run it and do anything useful. What's currently considered the de-facto Must Have text editor that's compatible with the 50G? My hours of digging around hpcalc.org and various FAQs have so far turned up nothing useful in that regard. Though maybe this thing is fast enough out of the box that I don't need a replacement editor, but isn't customization half the point of an HP? :) -Dave Britten

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:47:38 -0600, Dave Britten wrote: > I recently got hold of a 50G (which is as fantastic as everyone seemed= > to suggest, and then some), but alas, good ol' TED simply crashes > when I try to run it and do anything useful. The TED49 library dated 2005.04.14 at http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=3D5961 also crashes my Emu48 (running as 49G). Well, better suspend using TED. > What's currently considered the de-facto Must Have text editor? Office 2007 (can you get it for me wholesale? :) [r->] [OFF]

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:24:59 -0600, "John H Meyers" <jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote: >On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:47:38 -0600, Dave Britten wrote: > >> I recently got hold of a 50G (which is as fantastic as everyone seemed >> to suggest, and then some), but alas, good ol' TED simply crashes >> when I try to run it and do anything useful. > >The TED49 library dated 2005.04.14 >at http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=5961 >also crashes my Emu48 (running as 49G). > >Well, better suspend using TED. > >> What's currently considered the de-facto Must Have text editor? > >Office 2007 (can you get it for me wholesale? :) > >[r->] [OFF] TED crashed for me as well. I found emacs 2.11a to be extremely useful. PLUS, it includes extable2.lib (an extended SysRPL, etc., reference) and SDIAG, which is a great reference book for most (all?) of the SysPRL and M/L entries, User RPL entries, etc. It binds nicely to keys and supports dynamic verb completion. Although I do most of my programming now using Debug4x, I constantly rely on the libs provided by emacs to browse entries, look up stack commands, etc. Have fun, Scott

blueelectron9@hotmail.com wrote: > > TED crashed for me as well. I found emacs 2.11a to be extremely > useful. PLUS, it includes extable2.lib (an extended SysRPL, etc., > reference) and SDIAG, which is a great reference book for most (all?) > of the SysPRL and M/L entries, User RPL entries, etc. It binds nicely > to keys and supports dynamic verb completion. > > Although I do most of my programming now using Debug4x, I constantly > rely on the libs provided by emacs to browse entries, look up stack > commands, etc. > > Have fun, > Scott Hmm, emacs you say? Maybe I'll give it a try. I've got to find something to fill up this 256 MB card. Ha ha. It's too bad you can't have libraries attached directly from the SD card (at least I haven't seen a way to), but it's understandable, considering it's a block device and not memory mapped. -Dave Britten

John H Meyers wrote: > On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:47:38 -0600, Dave Britten wrote: > > > I recently got hold of a 50G (which is as fantastic as everyone seemed > > to suggest, and then some), but alas, good ol' TED simply crashes > > when I try to run it and do anything useful. > > The TED49 library dated 2005.04.14 > at http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=5961 > also crashes my Emu48 (running as 49G). > > Well, better suspend using TED. > > [r->] [OFF] Thnkx John. The version currently available at hpcalc is only for ROM (49G) 1.19-6, 1.24. TED beta 1.2 is available at www.gaak.org/hp/ted (Aug 06.2005). This version contains 49g+/50G support, tested in EmuGaaK (49g+/50G) 1.4 and up. Please report your bugs. - GaaK -

GaaK wrote: > > Thnkx John. The version currently available at hpcalc is only for ROM > (49G) 1.19-6, 1.24. TED beta 1.2 is available at www.gaak.org/hp/ted > (Aug 06.2005). This version contains 49g+/50G support, tested in > EmuGaaK (49g+/50G) 1.4 and up. > > Please report your bugs. > > - GaaK - Ooh, awesome. I'll have to give it a try this weekend and see how it goes. Thanks! -Dave Britten

> I recently got ahold of a 50G (which is as fantastic as everyone seemed > to suggest, and then some), but alas, good ol' TED simply crashes when > I try to run it and do anything useful. What's currently considered the > de-facto Must Have text editor that's compatible with the 50G? My hours > of digging around hpcalc.org and various FAQs have so far turned up > nothing useful in that regard. Though maybe this thing is fast enough > out of the box that I don't need a replacement editor, but isn't > customization half the point of an HP? :) Glad you like it. If you are going to do any serious programming, use emacs. Otherwise, the built in editor is great. What exactly are you wanting to do with a text editor on the calc? Write a novel? :-) TW

TW wrote: > > I recently got ahold of a 50G (which is as fantastic as everyone seemed > > to suggest, and then some), but alas, good ol' TED simply crashes when > > I try to run it and do anything useful. What's currently considered the > > de-facto Must Have text editor that's compatible with the 50G? My hours > > of digging around hpcalc.org and various FAQs have so far turned up > > nothing useful in that regard. Though maybe this thing is fast enough > > out of the box that I don't need a replacement editor, but isn't > > customization half the point of an HP? :) > > > Glad you like it. > > If you are going to do any serious programming, use emacs. Otherwise, > the built in editor is great. What exactly are you wanting to do with > a text editor on the calc? Write a novel? :-) > > TW I don't do any terribly serious programming with it - just some UserRPL from time to time. I'll probably use the built-in editor for most stuff, and keep TED around for when I want a light-weight, lightning fast editor. -Dave Britten

hi, I have tested tedB1c and the keys repeat twice. my rom is 2.08 (HP50G). regards davidbrit2@gmail.com ha escrito: > GaaK wrote: > > > > Thnkx John. The version currently available at hpcalc is only for ROM > > (49G) 1.19-6, 1.24. TED beta 1.2 is available at www.gaak.org/hp/ted > > (Aug 06.2005). This version contains 49g+/50G support, tested in > > EmuGaaK (49g+/50G) 1.4 and up. > > > > Please report your bugs. > > > > - GaaK - > > Ooh, awesome. I'll have to give it a try this weekend and see how it > goes. Thanks! > > -Dave Britten

TW wrote: > Glad you like it. > > If you are going to do any serious programming, use emacs. Otherwise, > the built in editor is great. What exactly are you wanting to do with > a text editor on the calc? Write a novel? :-) > > TW TED vs Editor built-in - TED makes no duplicate of the edited string if it is in temporary object area, thus enabling editing very large strings. Note that this implies that no backup of the original string is kept! - TED is very fast and supports the tabulator. - Most of the normal character keys are in their normal places, others can be fetched via the special character browser or ASCII code: CHR?+64 = @ - TED decompiles object to width 30. This can be changed by storing a real number larger than 9 in variable TED.WID. - TED contains the FIND/REPLACE option very fast! - TED works with ALL display - TED contains the Marks support and Macros - GaaK -

Hello, I installed TED in my hp50, but the editor seems to work improperly: two letters appear when pressing the key, the cursor moves twice up/down,.... is there a prblem with the code or I made something wrong? regards GaaK ha escrito: > TW wrote: > > Glad you like it. > > > > If you are going to do any serious programming, use emacs. Otherwise, > > the built in editor is great. What exactly are you wanting to do with > > a text editor on the calc? Write a novel? :-) > > > > TW > > TED vs Editor built-in > > - TED makes no duplicate of the edited string if it is in temporary > object area, thus enabling editing very large strings. Note that this > implies that no backup of the original string is kept! > > - TED is very fast and supports the tabulator. > > - Most of the normal character keys are in their normal places, others > can be fetched via the special character browser or ASCII code: CHR?+64 > = @ > > - TED decompiles object to width 30. This can be changed by storing a > real number larger than 9 in variable TED.WID. > > - TED contains the FIND/REPLACE option very fast! > > - TED works with ALL display > > - TED contains the Marks support and Macros > > - GaaK -

Maybe I am missing something, but I do not understand the built-in Text Editor. When I go to APPS then Text Editor, all I see is the Left Arrow cursor. I need to press ALPHA just so I can start writing text. This TEXT EDITOR is just a line editor. Am I correct ? qgarcia@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > I installed TED in my hp50, but the editor seems to work improperly: > two letters appear when pressing the key, the cursor moves twice > up/down,.... > > is there a prblem with the code or I made something wrong? > > regards > > > GaaK ha escrito: > > > TW wrote: > > > Glad you like it. > > > > > > If you are going to do any serious programming, use emacs. Otherwise, > > > the built in editor is great. What exactly are you wanting to do with > > > a text editor on the calc? Write a novel? :-) > > > > > > TW > > > > TED vs Editor built-in > > > > - TED makes no duplicate of the edited string if it is in temporary > > object area, thus enabling editing very large strings. Note that this > > implies that no backup of the original string is kept! > > > > - TED is very fast and supports the tabulator. > > > > - Most of the normal character keys are in their normal places, others > > can be fetched via the special character browser or ASCII code: CHR?+64 > > = @ > > > > - TED decompiles object to width 30. This can be changed by storing a > > real number larger than 9 in variable TED.WID. > > > > - TED contains the FIND/REPLACE option very fast! > > > > - TED works with ALL display > > > > - TED contains the Marks support and Macros > > > > - GaaK -

On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:29:39 -0600, LINEABOVE wrote: > Maybe I am missing something, > but I do not understand the built-in Text Editor. > When I go to APPS then Text Editor, > all I see is the Left Arrow cursor. > I need to press ALPHA just so I can start writing text. > This TEXT EDITOR is just a line editor. Am I correct ? This APPS entry has always confused everyone; it's only the command line! -- identical to pressing right-shift ENTRY (above Alpha), and then you have to enter something valid in UserRPL (although any quoted "big long string" will do). On the other hand, if you type "" (an empty string), press ENTER and then press cursor-down, the internal "pure text" editor (string editor) will start (as it will for any existing "string" on the stack). In either case, MODE DISP offers "Edit:" options, such as small text (minifont), "full page" (cursor can move beyond current end of any line), and "indent" (repeats a previous line's indentation). [r->] [OFF]

"John H Meyers" <jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote in message news:op.tj2dmlinnn735j@csstaff212-1.ia.mum.edu... > On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:29:39 -0600, LINEABOVE wrote: > >> Maybe I am missing something, >> but I do not understand the built-in Text Editor. >> When I go to APPS then Text Editor, >> all I see is the Left Arrow cursor. >> I need to press ALPHA just so I can start writing text. > >> This TEXT EDITOR is just a line editor. Am I correct ? > > This APPS entry has always confused everyone; > it's only the command line! -- identical to pressing > right-shift ENTRY (above Alpha), and then > you have to enter something valid in UserRPL > (although any quoted "big long string" will do). > > On the other hand, if you type "" (an empty string), > press ENTER and then press cursor-down, the internal > "pure text" editor (string editor) will start > (as it will for any existing "string" on the stack). > > In either case, MODE DISP offers "Edit:" options, > such as small text (minifont), "full page" > (cursor can move beyond current end of any line), > and "indent" (repeats a previous line's indentation). Now I'm confused?! The Build-in editor has [TOOL]s on the [NXT] pages that allows to saerch&Replace, change STYLE and FONT better than other calculators that I have used..

On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:03:07 -0600, VPN wrote: > Now I'm confused?! "?!" sure does look confusing :) > The Built-in editor has [TOOL]s on the [NXT] pages > that allows to search&Replace, change STYLE and FONT > better than other calculators that I have used.. Yes, that's always available (even while editing the command line :) What's different about editing a command line vs. editing a string is that a string isn't compiled after you edit it. When you invoke APPS > Text editor or Right-shift ENTRY, whatever you compose will get *compiled* and *executed* (just type two consecutive decimal points for a quick illustration), wheras when you do "string" EDITB the string is edited (without enclosing in quotes), and not re-compiled afterwards. The closest HP48 simulation of pure string editing would be: "" "string" INPUT (which you can also do on the 49G[+]/50G, if EDITB is too simple to use :) [r->] [OFF]

Now I understand. Thank you. I missed the [TOOLS] [NEXT] I feel that I have just discovered another little jem, thanks to this group. John H Meyers wrote: > On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:03:07 -0600, VPN wrote: > > > Now I'm confused?! > > "?!" sure does look confusing :) > > > The Built-in editor has [TOOL]s on the [NXT] pages > > that allows to search&Replace, change STYLE and FONT > > better than other calculators that I have used.. > > Yes, that's always available > (even while editing the command line :) > > What's different about editing a command line vs. editing a string > is that a string isn't compiled after you edit it. > > When you invoke APPS > Text editor or Right-shift ENTRY, > whatever you compose will get *compiled* and *executed* > (just type two consecutive decimal points for a quick illustration), > wheras when you do "string" EDITB the string is edited > (without enclosing in quotes), and not re-compiled afterwards. > > The closest HP48 simulation of pure string editing > would be: "" "string" INPUT > (which you can also do on the 49G[+]/50G, > if EDITB is too simple to use :) > > [r->] [OFF]