Prepare for yet another video connector: DisplayPort, a new digital
video connector coming for PCs in the beginning of 2008

Here are some links with useful information about it
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/01/ati-graphics-to-support-displayport-1-1-in-early-2008/
http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/display_port.html
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/

What are the advantages I see in this new video connector?
.. Smaller size
.. Support for very high resolutions
.. Totally and straight compatibility with both DVI and HDMI
.. A industry wide standard backed by VESA and not proprietary crap
.. No need to pay anything to use it, royalties fees FREE!
.. Also can connect sound so no extra sound cable needed

The only disadvantage I see is one... no analog support
You will be able to easily connect DisplayPort to both DVI and HDMI
with no problem at all but with VGA that has been used for decades and
still is no cause its analog and DisplayPort is digital only.
Don't forget in that regard DVI is much better cause its a analog/
digital connector so it supports both
I see this as a big inconvenient cause the installed base of analog is
still gigantic

At the end the obvious question, do we really need yet another video
connector with so many already?
Probably its because we have now so many that DisplayPort was created,
to reduce all to one. If you look closely and with the exception of
analog support everything else DisplayPort has so its basically
replacing the 3 VGA/DVI/HDMI with a single standard royalties FREE
connector
Again what bothers me is no support for analog cause if it had, I
would say it would be perfect

I bet in 10 years time this will be the standard in PCs with HDMI
being the standard in consumer electronics

* pc games:

> Prepare for yet another video connector: DisplayPort, a new digital
> video connector coming for PCs in the beginning of 2008
> 
> Here are some links with useful information about it
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/01/ati-graphics-to-support-displayport-1-1-in-early-2008/
> http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/display_port.html
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
> 
> What are the advantages I see in this new video connector?
> . Smaller size

Nope. The DisplayPort connector isn't smaller than HDMI

> . Support for very high resolutions

DualLink DVI and HDMI 1.3 also support very high resolutions

> . Totally and straight compatibility with both DVI and HDMI

HDMI is already fully compatible to DVI, in fact HDMI is just the 
combination of DVI and Sound.

BTW: while the standard allows DisplayPort to transmit DVI (TMDS) 
signals it uses LVDS which is totally different from what's used with 
DVI. The reason is that with DisplayPort the industry can save another 
few bucks for LVDS converters which are needed in flat panel displays.

> . A industry wide standard backed by VESA and not proprietary crap

DVI is a VESA standard, so what?

> . No need to pay anything to use it, royalties fees FREE!

Yes, for the hardware manufacturers that want to use it. Same with DVI. 
So what?

> . Also can connect sound so no extra sound cable needed

HDMI also connects sound with no extra cables.

> The only disadvantage I see is one... no analog support

Who cares?

> You will be able to easily connect DisplayPort to both DVI and HDMI
> with no problem at all

Again in your dreams. If you had at least a basic technical 
understanding (but then you're Portugese so maybe I expect too much) you 
would have realized that DisplayPort is *not* necessarily DVI and HDMI 
compatible. In fact, DisplayPort is a competitor to DVI and HDMI, and 
while the standard allows DisplayPort to pass through TMDS signals 
(which are used in DVI and HDMI) it uses a complete different signaling.

> but with VGA that has been used for decades and
> still is no cause its analog and DisplayPort is digital only.
> Don't forget in that regard DVI is much better cause its a analog/
> digital connector so it supports both

Only DVI-I has the necessary pins for passing through analog. DVI-D doesn't.

Not that analog is important besides for people still using CRTs or 
using a very cheap low end TFT that doesn't have DVI input.

> I see this as a big inconvenient cause the installed base of analog is
> still gigantic

In Portugal maybe. The rest of the world knows DVI and flat panel 
displays for at least a decade now.

But of course you stupid retard have missed the fact that DisplayPort 
not only supports HDCP copy protection but also comes with another copy 
protection sheme (DPCP). I know you don't know what this means because 
if you did you would also run berserk about DisplayPort as you usually 
do when it comes to STEAM. Both HDCP and probably even more DPCP mean a 
real loss of freedom to the user because it's part of DRM and allows 
content providers to tell you how have to see their content and how not.

Benjamin

"Benjamin Gawert" <bgawert@gmx.de> wrote in message 
news:5hgmbcF3jk523U1@mid.individual.net...
>* pc games:
>
>> Prepare for yet another video connector: DisplayPort, a 
>> new digital
>> video connector coming for PCs in the beginning of 2008
>>
>> Here are some links with useful information about it
>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/01/ati-graphics-to-support-displayport-1-1-in-early-2008/
>> http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/display_port.html
>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/04/vesa-approves-displayport-1-1-kiss-those-dvi-and-vga-ports-good/
>>
.............


> ... Both HDCP and probably even more DPCP mean a real loss 
> of freedom to the user because it's part of DRM and allows 
> content providers to tell you how have to see their 
> content and how not.
>
> Benjamin

Is that why there is no analog conversion? So its all 
digital and then they can have the devices see what they are 
connected to and block the signal to limit/prevent copying?

* Lou:
>> ... Both HDCP and probably even more DPCP mean a real loss 
>> of freedom to the user because it's part of DRM and allows 
>> content providers to tell you how have to see their 
>> content and how not.
> 
> Is that why there is no analog conversion? So its all 
> digital and then they can have the devices see what they are 
> connected to and block the signal to limit/prevent copying?

Yes and now. Basically, the advantage of digital connections is that 
there is no loss on image quality. For the content industry digital 
connections also have the advantage of being much better secureable 
against copying.

You're American, right? Americans do have analoge HDTV for some time now 
(analoge HDTV sadly failed in Europe). Analogue HDTV has the advantage 
that it could be recorded easily. Of course the content industry doesn't 
like that and now wants to force digital HDTV which comes with DRM and 
encrypted data lines (like HDCP in HDMIand DVI, and also DPCP in 
DisplayPort). That means with digital interfaces the content industry 
decides wether you're able to see their valuable content via analoge 
output (they can decide just to degrade analog image quality or even 
block analog completely), and they also can block certain digital 
devices (i.e. a certain model of BD or HD-DVD player or TV set) if they 
suspect that this device might have been hacked.

I wonder how pc retard could cry around because of STEAM when there is 
much more loss of user freedom in the media industry.

Benjamin