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What is the max drive size on NT 4 & a IBM scsi-2 card

I undertsnad that WinNT 4.0 has a limt 4gb for a boot drive. but I can't
find any info on what the max disk drive size is for secondary drives on a
PS/2 9595 OLG with a IBM scsi-2 card and NT 4.0.  Does that limit change if
using either an MCA Adaptec card and/or Win2000?

Appreciate your help in advance.


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I tried to install nt 4 on a late model computer and got an error message
to the effect of your hard drive is bigger than 2 g/b install cannot
proceed. So you may not even be able to use your 4 gig drive unless there
is a patch available to allow it

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GARTH
7/2/2004 10:14:24 AM
Hi Rich:

There are a lot of different ways to implement an NT4 boot system; 
here's what I did, maybe it will help you....

NT4 needs to boot from within the first 1024 cylinders.  So, very often 
what you'll see is:

0-500: NT4 bare installation with Defrag/AV utils (for maint & recovery)
501- : NT4 Production installation

Others go even further and will put a 300Mb Win9x install on there 
first, then a 500Mb NT4, then the NT4 production install.

> I undertsnad that WinNT 4.0 has a limt 4gb for a boot drive. but I can't
I may be wrong on this, but practically, I've never used anything over 
2Gb for an NT4 system partition.... probably because I've used the Win98 
FDISK to create the partitions.

> find any info on what the max disk drive size is for secondary drives on a
> PS/2 9595 OLG with a IBM scsi-2 card and NT 4.0.  Does that limit change if
> using either an MCA Adaptec card and/or Win2000?

Win2K will not work on a PS/2... there've been lots of threads about it 
but to my knowledge, nobody has gotten it to work.

Your 9595 and NT4 will handle as big a drive as you can muster as your 
secondary or tertiary drive.... I know, my '95 has about a Terabyte of 
storage as drive E:

The limit for secondary drive size depends on your hardware.  I'm not 
sure what the Adaptec card can handle, but my guess would be 8Gb or 
less.  The "Corvette" card - which should have come stock in your system 
- can handle drives as large as 250Gb, although it reports their size as 
a negative number (but NT4 reads the proper size).  The "Cheetah" RAID 
card will handle 250Gb drives as well (and properly report their size!) 
and mirror a pair of them, but will only create logical drives of 32Gb 
or less (very annoying).

My knowledge pales in comparison to the expertise of others, but if you 
have questions about what I did, feel free to ask.

HTH,
-John the helpful

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John
7/2/2004 2:32:52 PM
Hi Rich & Garth,
> I undertsnad that WinNT 4.0 has a limt 4gb for a boot drive. but I
> can't find any info on what the max disk drive size is for secondary
> drives on a PS/2 9595 OLG with a IBM scsi-2 card and NT 4.0. Does
> that limit change if using either an MCA Adaptec card and/or Win2000?
     What can be a much more limiting factor is what BIOS you have on your
Type 2 'L' complex. It needs to be 41G9361 to work with SCSI drives larger
than 1Gb. Furthermore your Spock SCSI controller should have the later
92F2244 / 92F2245 BIOS set
(http://www.walshcomptech.com/ohlandl/complexes/Type2.html#Over_1GB_IML).
     I've had arrays close to 12Gb on NT with a Cheetah controller (on a
Server 500, which is a 9595 planar with a Type 4 Pentium 90MHz complex), so
the limit has to be above that. You have the best setup on your *8595*
(since it is a T2 complex) without the addition of an Adaptec card (with an
IML system you probably want to keep the IBM SCSI controller) or a thought
about W2K (which I would not try on a 486DX2-50 system even if it worked).
There are RAID setups (normally a Passplay adapter on the Model 95, which I
am using to run an array smaller than the Server 500 under NT) that could be
considered too.
     NT will has a hard time seeing a CD-ROM drive connected to a RAID
channel sometime, so you might still have a use for your Spock or Adaptec
1640. It is more a matter how I have my arrays on my 9595A & Server 500 that
I chose to have a Spock running the CD-ROM solely. Very stable systems.

> I tried to install nt 4 on a late model computer and got an error
> message to the effect of your hard drive is bigger than 2 g/b
> install cannot proceed. So you may not even be able to use
> your 4 gig drive unless there is a patch available to allow it
     NT *installs* to 2Gb or less, but the partition can be resized with
three-party tools later on (to a maximum size of 4Gb). The drives other than
the boot drive can be larger. I don't remember OTTOMH, but think it can be
very much larger than what sizes we are talking about here.
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David
7/2/2004 2:46:27 PM
Hello,

I know that MCA IML machines have a limit of 2 gigs for the ID 6 drive with the
system partition. I have heard that there is a limit to NT drives but do not
know what it is. I have a 26 gig partition, though. (RAID 5, 4 9gig drives).

9595,
A. Brandt

Rich Ackermann wrote:

> I undertsnad that WinNT 4.0 has a limt 4gb for a boot drive. but I can't
> find any info on what the max disk drive size is for secondary drives on a
> PS/2 9595 OLG with a IBM scsi-2 card and NT 4.0.  Does that limit change if
> using either an MCA Adaptec card and/or Win2000?
>
> Appreciate your help in advance.

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Allen
7/2/2004 4:31:36 PM
Hi!

> There are a lot of different ways to implement an NT4 boot system;
> here's what I did, maybe it will help you....
>
> NT4 needs to boot from within the first 1024 cylinders.  So, very often
> what you'll see is:
>
> 0-500: NT4 bare installation with Defrag/AV utils (for maint & recovery)
> 501- : NT4 Production installation
>
> Others go even further and will put a 300Mb Win9x install on there
> first, then a 500Mb NT4, then the NT4 production install.

Interesting. I may have to try that when I get things up and going. This
will be a long time coming, though. Don't stay tuned! :-)

> I'm not
> sure what the Adaptec card can handle, but my guess would be 8Gb or
> less.

With the boot-BIOS enabled and the card used for booting, 1GB for the boot
device is it. Others can be 8GB. Under ASPI control (with the boot BIOS
disabled) you can also have up to an 8GB device. I have no idea, however, if
that 8GB limit is a hardware thing or a software thing. I never pushed my
1640 that far--it ran a six disc Pioneer DRM-624 quite nicely.

William


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William
7/3/2004 1:26:36 AM
Hi !

>With the boot-BIOS enabled and the card used for booting, 1GB for the boot
>device is it. Others can be 8GB. Under ASPI control (with the boot BIOS
>disabled) you can also have up to an 8GB device. I have no idea, however, if
>that 8GB limit is a hardware thing or a software thing. I never pushed my
>1640 that far--it ran a six disc Pioneer DRM-624 quite nicely.

The AHA-1640 is technically based on the AHA-1540 ISA controller and it uses a
rather old scheme for INT13 decoding if you use it for a boot controller.
I would not use the 1640 for HDs anyway, the "Patriot" controller is far
better, faster and supports bigger boot-drives. I used to use the 1640 for
CD-ROMs and tapes only anyway, since it is fully ASPI compliant :-)
(Which is an advantage for some software packages)

And because of the standard-50 pin port at the rear, which the IBMs haven't got
- apart from the Patriot, which is a rebadged Future Domain with IBM BIOS.
Whatever.

To my opinion you'll have to differ between machines that need an IML partition
and those who don't, if you want to do something with NT and large HDs.
The trouble with IML-units is, that you have to maintain one drive below 4GB
and have INT13 support. If you put the base OS on that drive you'll be fine. If
you have to keep the INT13 support for e.g. Passplay or Cheetah controllers you
will be ass deep in crocodiles, since the logical drive size cannot exceed 4GB
to hold an IML partition there. So you need two controllers, from which the
boot-controller (a Spock for instance) needs to reside in a lower-numbered
slot.

Hmmm. Trouble, you can't fool me ...



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peterwendt
7/3/2004 8:18:56 PM
For the european members, there are some seagate elites on ebay.de. 
About 20 GB @ a nice price. There are some coming my way.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11243&item=5105617853

Right now I'm building a new server. 2x Elite, cd rom, tape. 
And maybe a 2 or 4 GB for the OS.

Spooky
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Spooky
7/3/2004 11:37:44 PM
NT4 has a boot drive limit of 7.5gig IF the hard disk controller has
INT13 size detection available. Otherwise, its a 2gig limit without
INT13. When you install NT4, it has to make a FAT16 partition first,
before converting it to NTFS, so your limited to 2gig normally,
however, NT has a setting for non-dos 64k cluster FAT16, allowing up
to 4gig max boot drive during setup for INT13 drives. After the drive
is converted to NTFS, you can use Partition Magic, or Volume Manager
to enlarge the boot partition to 7.5gig. If you go over 7.5gig, you
shouldn't have problems as long as you never defrag the drive. I did
that on my 9595, with a boot partition enlarged to 30gig. The system
ran fine until I used Diskeeper to defrag, then NT lost its boot
files. I read up on it, and it turns out that defragging must have
moved the boot files past the 2gig non-INT13 limit(passplay doesn't
have INT13), or the 7.5gig limit for INT13 enables controllers like
the Cheetah, and NT couldn't see them anymore during boot. Secondary
drives on NTFS for NT4-SP6, are allowed up to 2000gig.

The PS/2 IML limit is 3.94gig isn't it ?

Cas


> 
> I know that MCA IML machines have a limit of 2 gigs for the ID 6 drive with the
> system partition. I have heard that there is a limit to NT drives but do not
> know what it is. I have a 26 gig partition, though. (RAID 5, 4 9gig drives).
> 
> 9595,
> A. Brandt
> 
> Rich Ackermann wrote:
> 
> > I undertsnad that WinNT 4.0 has a limt 4gb for a boot drive. but I can't
> > find any info on what the max disk drive size is for secondary drives on a
> > PS/2 9595 OLG with a IBM scsi-2 card and NT 4.0.  Does that limit change if
> > using either an MCA Adaptec card and/or Win2000?
> >
> > Appreciate your help in advance.
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casolai
7/5/2004 5:28:33 AM
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Hello, all. I am the seller on this one. I have an auction for six used IBM XGA-02 cards on eBay. I tested them all this week. They work great. Maybe someone can use them. I started sorting through my cards and found almost 15 real quick. I don't need that many! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2792178088 The shameless plug is within the item description. I thought it would give some of you a chuckle. Also, on the auction, it says I will not ship outside the USA. If you are a regular here, and you are from Canada or Europe, I will ship them to you. Just e-mail me. Thank you, Jason Whorton How are you gonna do it? PS/2 it! Jason Whorton wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2792178088 > As noted previously, I'm now aunt_edna (aka daisyheadmayzie) - FWIW :-) "Dan Overman" <bitbucket@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:beb2c.23624$aT1.6550@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Jason Whorton wrote: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2792178088 > > > > As noted previously, I'm now aunt_edna (aka daisyheadmayzie) - FWIW :-) > OK, I didn't have a clue as to what you were talking about until I checked out the auction! :-) Thanks, Jason Whorton ...

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Auction: IBM RS6000 & SCSI tape drives [London Calling]
>http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-RS6000-SCSI-tape-drives_W0QQitemZ110020033769QQihZ001QQcategoryZ1484QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem< End time: Aug-17-06 13:05:42 PDT Welwyn Garden City, United Kingdom Looks to be a 7006-41x? A IBM DDS-2, an 8mm??? and a third party QIC? Louis Ohland wrote: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-RS6000-SCSI-tape-drives_W0QQitemZ110020033769QQihZ001QQcategoryZ1484QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem< > Looks to be a 7006-41x? 7011-250 > A IBM DDS-2, an 8mm??? and a third party QIC? 8mm is an Exabyte drive. QIC looks IBM (AS/400?). Kevin Bowling wrote: > 7011-250 This looks like an excellent candidate for your code port project, Kevin, except that the shipping price is likely to give you a heart attack. A pity that it's not on our end of the great Atlantic puddle. Rick Ekblaw What platform are you trying to code for? Power or PPC? RickE wrote: > Kevin Bowling wrote: >> 7011-250 > > This looks like an excellent candidate for your code port project, > Kevin, except that the shipping price is likely to give you a heart > attack. A pity that it's not on our end of the great Atlantic puddle. > > Rick Ekblaw > Louis Ohland wrote: > What platform are you trying to code for? Power or PPC? The first stage IPL boot loader currently works on both. Higher level things will probably target PPC first (7006,7009,7011) as the docs we have only cover 7011-250 architecture (h...

Auction: IBM PS/2 MCA SCSI card, Cable and CD with *.adf files
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Auction: IBM PS/2
>http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-PS-2-4869-002-External-5-1-4-Diskette-Drive_W0QQitemZ8746076013QQcategoryZ44958QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem< Ends Jan-09-06 09:43:22 PST IBM part number: 4869-002. Card part number: 33F5365. All, > IBM part number: 4869-002. Card part number: 33F5365. I know this is a dumb question, but will this work in a 9595 under NT? Thanks, exwisdem Hi! > I know this is a dumb question, but will this work in a 9595 under NT? The high density version may not, as it uses a device driver to make itself show up as the next available drive letter. (Such as "drive D" or whatever...) I've heard of someone twiddling the ADF to allow "drive B" support, but I've never tried that myself. I would like to bid on this item, unless someone else desperately needs it. William Hi William, David, > > I know this is a dumb question, but will this work in a 9595 under NT? > The high density version may not, as it uses a device driver to make > itself show up as the next available drive letter. (Such as "drive D" > or whatever...) I've heard of someone twiddling the ADF to allow "drive > B" support, but I've never tried that myself. *DOS* has a driver to run it that way (and if low-density works, high-density would too). Probably at least OS/2 should be covered otherwise. I can't remember if the adapter uses the standard secondary FDC I/O address off t...

Auction: IBM Video Capture Adapter / A for IBM Personal System/2 #2
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Auction: IBM PS/2 MCA CARD
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IBM PS/2 MCA 2-8 MB Memory card 15F8289
I just bought the 16 bit version of this memory card where's a good place to get IBM ps/2 memory? "den" <robotech_master@iwon.com> wrote in message news:<v91nb.3563$Px2.404@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>... > I just bought the 16 bit version of this memory card where's a good place to > get IBM ps/2 memory? Den, you've found a good place (eBay might be good, too, but a lot of sellers charge outrageous shipping fees). Several of the members of this group could provide you with as many of the 2MB SIMMs as you would want (I'm assuming that you are looking for FRU 92F0103, Option number 6450608, right?). I'm not really looking to sell a bunch of my SIMMs, but if no one else makes you an offer, e-mail me in a week or so and we'll work something out. Rick Ekblaw "den" <robotech_master@iwon.com> wrote in message news:<v91nb.3563$Px2.404@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>... > I just bought the 16 bit version of this memory card where's a good place to > get IBM ps/2 memory? I have a bunch of 2Meg memory SIMMS, if you agree to pay COD for the shipping costs only I'll give them to you for FREE. If your memory expansion board is bad, I have extra 16mb Kingston ones to give away. This offer is open to everyone. Charlie ...

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