According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
existing iMac models.

Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we=92ll
probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel=92s quad-
core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
low-range iMacs will get Intel=92s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
i3.

If true, this rumor=92s worth getting excited about if you=92re looking
for a new iMac. Let=92s just hope that the update brings something
beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
would be very nice indeed, Apple.

"TocaMadera" <steelbender_6@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:235705f6-c548-4ff9-b279-a2b2bb3e2e4e@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> existing iMac models.
>
> Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we�ll
> probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
> boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel�s quad-
> core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> low-range iMacs will get Intel�s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
> i3.
>
> If true, this rumor�s worth getting excited about if you�re looking
> for a new iMac. Let�s just hope that the update brings something
> beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> would be very nice indeed, Apple.

Everyone else has been putting core i5 and i7 into everything and also USB3. 
Apple always seems to be miles behind. 

On Jul 25, 9:34=A0pm, "Redjac" <Redjack...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> "TocaMadera" <steelbende...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:235705f6-c548-4ff9-b279-a2b2bb3e2e4e@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> > expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> > Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> > existing iMac models.
>
> > Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we=92ll
> > probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
> > boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel=92s quad-
> > core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> > low-range iMacs will get Intel=92s low-end quad-core processor, the Cor=
e
> > i3.
>
> > If true, this rumor=92s worth getting excited about if you=92re looking
> > for a new iMac. Let=92s just hope that the update brings something
> > beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> > would be very nice indeed, Apple.
>
> Everyone else has been putting core i5 and i7 into everything and also US=
B3.
> Apple always seems to be miles behind.

Miles and years behind.

In article <i2iom9$mto$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "Redjac" <Redjackson@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> "TocaMadera" <steelbender_6@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:235705f6-c548-4ff9-b279-a2b2bb3e2e4e@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> > expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> > Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> > existing iMac models.
> >
> > Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we�ll
> > probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
> > boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel�s quad-
> > core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> > low-range iMacs will get Intel�s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
> > i3.
> >
> > If true, this rumor�s worth getting excited about if you�re looking
> > for a new iMac. Let�s just hope that the update brings something
> > beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> > would be very nice indeed, Apple.
> 
> Everyone else has been putting core i5 and i7 into everything and also USB3. 
> Apple always seems to be miles behind. 

And yet their computers just work and work!

I guess things are always as they "seem", huh?

-- 
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- 
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone 
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) 
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the 
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included 
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) 

In article <i2iom9$mto$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "Redjac" <Redjackson@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> "TocaMadera" <steelbender_6@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:235705f6-c548-4ff9-b279-a2b2bb3e2e4e@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> > expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> > Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> > existing iMac models.
> >
> > Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we�ll
> > probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
> > boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel�s quad-
> > core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> > low-range iMacs will get Intel�s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
> > i3.
> >
> > If true, this rumor�s worth getting excited about if you�re looking
> > for a new iMac. Let�s just hope that the update brings something
> > beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> > would be very nice indeed, Apple.
> 
> Everyone else has been putting core i5 and i7 into everything and also USB3. 
> Apple always seems to be miles behind. 

Some have been using i5 and i7, but more models with i3 are out there.  
USB3 is still not showing up in many models.

-- 
Lloyd

On Jul 25, 10:47=A0pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article <i2iom9$mt...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0"Redjac" <Redjack...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> > "TocaMadera" <steelbende...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:235705f6-c548-4ff9-b279-a2b2bb3e2e4e@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com..=
..
> > > According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> > > expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> > > Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> > > existing iMac models.
>
> > > Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we=B9ll
> > > probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, whic=
h
> > > boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel=B9s qua=
d-
> > > core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> > > low-range iMacs will get Intel=B9s low-end quad-core processor, the C=
ore
> > > i3.
>
> > > If true, this rumor=B9s worth getting excited about if you=B9re looki=
ng
> > > for a new iMac. Let=B9s just hope that the update brings something
> > > beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> > > would be very nice indeed, Apple.
>
> > Everyone else has been putting core i5 and i7 into everything and also =
USB3.
> > Apple always seems to be miles behind.
>
> And yet their computers just work and work!

Yeah, they are just a lot slower.

>
> I guess things are always as they "seem", huh?
>

You mean slow?

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:34:04 -0700, Redjac wrote
(in article <i2iom9$mto$1@news.eternal-september.org>):

> 
> 
> "TocaMadera" <steelbender_6@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:235705f6-c548-4ff9-b279-a2b2bb3e2e4e@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
>> expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
>> Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
>> existing iMac models.
>> 
>> Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we�ll
>> probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
>> boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel�s quad-
>> core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
>> low-range iMacs will get Intel�s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
>> i3.
>> 
>> If true, this rumor�s worth getting excited about if you�re looking
>> for a new iMac. Let�s just hope that the update brings something
>> beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
>> would be very nice indeed, Apple.
> 
> Everyone else has been putting core i5 and i7 into everything and also USB3. 
> Apple always seems to be miles behind. 
> 

One of the characteristics of the "commodity"  PC market is that when they 
(The commodity PC makers) buy their Mboards from Chinese companies that make 
millions of them, each year, for everybody, is that product differentiation 
becomes the name of the game. ANYTHING which comes along which can 
differentiate your generic Winbox from everybody else's generic Winbox gets 
implemented RIGHT AWAY. The market is THAT cutthroat. 

OTOH, Apple is differentiated by the fact that Macs do not come with Windows. 
They use a different  OS that's valued by a different market. They can afford 
to let others, who desperately need them, pioneer many of these innovations 
such as the latest processors and peripheral buses. When it comes time for 
this or that Mac to be upgraded, they will be upgraded with whatever was the 
newest and best when the design cycle for the new model was started. By the 
time the product comes out, it might be yesterday's news, but most Mac buyers 
don't care about that neither does Apple. They're not playing in the 
low-profit, fast moving commodity computer market. They don't need to move so 
fast. Their profitability and ever increasing market share shows this to be a 
sound policy for them. 

On 7/25/10 11:21 PM, Fa-groon wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:34:04 -0700, Redjac wrote
> (in article<i2iom9$mto$1@news.eternal-september.org>):
>
>>
>>
>> "TocaMadera"<steelbender_6@yahoo.com>  wrote in message
>> news:235705f6-c548-4ff9-b279-a2b2bb3e2e4e@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>> According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
>>> expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
>>> Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
>>> existing iMac models.
>>>
>>> Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we�ll
>>> probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
>>> boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel�s quad-
>>> core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
>>> low-range iMacs will get Intel�s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
>>> i3.
>>>
>>> If true, this rumor�s worth getting excited about if you�re looking
>>> for a new iMac. Let�s just hope that the update brings something
>>> beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
>>> would be very nice indeed, Apple.
>>
>> Everyone else has been putting core i5 and i7 into everything and also USB3.
>> Apple always seems to be miles behind.
>>
>
> One of the characteristics of the "commodity"  PC market is that when they
> (The commodity PC makers) buy their Mboards from Chinese companies that make
> millions of them, each year, for everybody, is that product differentiation
> becomes the name of the game. ANYTHING which comes along which can
> differentiate your generic Winbox from everybody else's generic Winbox gets
> implemented RIGHT AWAY. The market is THAT cutthroat.
>
> OTOH, Apple is differentiated by the fact that Macs do not come with Windows.
> They use a different  OS that's valued by a different market. They can afford
> to let others, who desperately need them, pioneer many of these innovations
> such as the latest processors and peripheral buses. When it comes time for
> this or that Mac to be upgraded, they will be upgraded with whatever was the
> newest and best when the design cycle for the new model was started. By the
> time the product comes out, it might be yesterday's news, but most Mac buyers
> don't care about that neither does Apple. They're not playing in the
> low-profit, fast moving commodity computer market. They don't need to move so
> fast. Their profitability and ever increasing market share shows this to be a
> sound policy for them.

I read that twice and am amazed how you wrote that nonsense with a 
straight face.

Steve

On Jul 25, 11:16=A0pm, TocaMadera <steelbende...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> existing iMac models.
>
> Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we=92ll
> probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
> boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel=92s quad-
> core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> low-range iMacs will get Intel=92s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
> i3.
>
> If true, this rumor=92s worth getting excited about if you=92re looking
> for a new iMac. Let=92s just hope that the update brings something
> beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> would be very nice indeed, Apple.

"Very nice"? You must be kidding, it's not a PC where you can
just stick a pci express usb 3.0 controller.
It's essential to have usb 3.0 in a closed box. Is it in new mac mini?

Better yet give up on the all in one idiocy and get along with the pc
concept
of there is a screen... there is tower... there are a million twisty
cables in between

But then, oh woe, the mac pro insane margins would go to toilet once
you
have to have an entry level tower for users with gobs of disdain
for mini and imac

In article 
<55e0c037-0e82-446a-a269-2a7c0fe30f82@u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
 "Squat n'Dive" <isquat@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 25, 11:16�pm, TocaMadera <steelbende...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> > expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> > Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> > existing iMac models.
> >
> > Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we�ll
> > probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
> > boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel�s quad-
> > core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> > low-range iMacs will get Intel�s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
> > i3.
> >
> > If true, this rumor�s worth getting excited about if you�re looking
> > for a new iMac. Let�s just hope that the update brings something
> > beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> > would be very nice indeed, Apple.
> 
> "Very nice"? You must be kidding, it's not a PC where you can
> just stick a pci express usb 3.0 controller.

No. You can't stick a PCI card in an iMac. That's very obvious. Yet they 
still sell.

> It's essential to have usb 3.0 in a closed box. Is it in new mac mini?

I don't know.

> 
> Better yet give up on the all in one idiocy and get along with the pc
> concept
> of there is a screen... there is tower... there are a million twisty
> cables in between

People prefer things to be neater.

> 
> But then, oh woe, the mac pro insane margins would go to toilet once
> you
> have to have an entry level tower for users with gobs of disdain
> for mini and imac

-- 
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- 
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone 
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) 
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the 
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included 
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) 

On 7/25/2010 1:16 PM, TocaMadera wrote:
> According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> existing iMac models.
>
> Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we�ll
> probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
> boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel�s quad-
> core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> low-range iMacs will get Intel�s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
> i3.
>
> If true, this rumor�s worth getting excited about if you�re looking
> for a new iMac. Let�s just hope that the update brings something
> beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> would be very nice indeed, Apple.

      I think Apple should put the i3 in the Mini because 
putting an i3 in an iMac would be a really low end machine. 
Apple's consumer models are way behind the rest of the industry 
when it comes to performance as it is. You have to pay hundreds 
and thousands more for Macs. You can get a non-Mac PC for $1000 
that will be much more powerful than a $1500 iMac.

John

On 7/26/2010 12:15 AM, Squat n'Dive wrote:
> On Jul 25, 11:16 pm, TocaMadera<steelbende...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>> According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
>> expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
>> Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
>> existing iMac models.
>>
>> Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we�ll
>> probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
>> boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel�s quad-
>> core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
>> low-range iMacs will get Intel�s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
>> i3.
>>
>> If true, this rumor�s worth getting excited about if you�re looking
>> for a new iMac. Let�s just hope that the update brings something
>> beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
>> would be very nice indeed, Apple.
>
> "Very nice"? You must be kidding, it's not a PC where you can
> just stick a pci express usb 3.0 controller.
> It's essential to have usb 3.0 in a closed box. Is it in new mac mini?
>
> Better yet give up on the all in one idiocy and get along with the pc
> concept
> of there is a screen... there is tower... there are a million twisty
> cables in between
>
> But then, oh woe, the mac pro insane margins would go to toilet once
> you
> have to have an entry level tower for users with gobs of disdain
> for mini and imac

     I couldn't have said it better. If Apple put out a tower 
for $800 that could run OS X and Windows. They would sell a lot 
more computers. But it seems that Apple's main focus is on 
making mobile devices like the iPhone, iPad and iPod.

John

Fa-groon <fa-gr...@mad.com> wrote:
>
> One of the characteristics of the "commodity" =A0PC market is that when t=
hey
> (The commodity PC makers) buy their Mboards from Chinese companies that m=
ake
> millions of them, each year, for everybody, is that product differentiati=
on
> becomes the name of the game. ANYTHING which comes along which can
> differentiate your generic Winbox from everybody else's generic Winbox ge=
ts
> implemented RIGHT AWAY. The market is THAT cutthroat.

Agreed.   And the irony of this is is that it is because of this same
attribute that we see so much screaming of hardware-centric "value"
from the PC advocates, yet they themselves don't even realize that
this is all that they have with which to differentiate product on - -
apparently because their business acumen is so remedial such that they
don't even recognize product differentiation when it is staring them
in the face.


> OTOH, Apple is differentiated by the fact that Macs do not come with Wind=
ows.
> They use a different =A0OS that's valued by a different market.

And if the world wasn't so freewheeling on software piracy, it is
somewhat plausible to think that Apple could have instead been a
software-only company like Microsoft.  However, the Powercomputing
clones and the like illustrated those challenges, as well as revealed
the underlying business model of greater vertical integration.


> They can afford
> to let others, who desperately need them, pioneer many of these innovatio=
ns
> such as the latest processors and peripheral buses.

And yet, they're not afraid of technology:  just more selective in the
developmental risks - witness the new CPU in the original MacBook Air,
the A4 in the iPad, the new screen on the iPhone4, etc.

> When it comes time for
> this or that Mac to be upgraded, they will be upgraded with whatever was =
the
> newest and best when the design cycle for the new model was started. By t=
he
> time the product comes out, it might be yesterday's news, but most Mac bu=
yers
> don't care about that neither does Apple. They're not playing in the
> low-profit, fast moving commodity computer market. They don't need to mov=
e so
> fast. Their profitability and ever increasing market share shows this to =
be a
> sound policy for them.

Interesting observation:  "...whatever was [good] when the design
cycle ... started..."


-hh

"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message 
news:2ca2b46d-9714-4d46-a1ca-72db462a99da@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
Fa-groon <fa-gr...@mad.com> wrote:
>
> One of the characteristics of the "commodity" PC market is that when they
> (The commodity PC makers) buy their Mboards from Chinese companies that 
> make
> millions of them, each year, for everybody, is that product 
> differentiation
> becomes the name of the game. ANYTHING which comes along which can
> differentiate your generic Winbox from everybody else's generic Winbox 
> gets
> implemented RIGHT AWAY. The market is THAT cutthroat.

Agreed.   And the irony of this is is that it is because of this same
attribute that we see so much screaming of hardware-centric "value"
from the PC advocates, yet they themselves don't even realize that
this is all that they have with which to differentiate product on - -
apparently because their business acumen is so remedial such that they
don't even recognize product differentiation when it is staring them
in the face.


> OTOH, Apple is differentiated by the fact that Macs do not come with 
> Windows.
> They use a different OS that's valued by a different market.

And if the world wasn't so freewheeling on software piracy, it is
somewhat plausible to think that Apple could have instead been a
software-only company like Microsoft.  However, the Powercomputing
clones and the like illustrated those challenges, as well as revealed
the underlying business model of greater vertical integration.


> They can afford
> to let others, who desperately need them, pioneer many of these 
> innovations
> such as the latest processors and peripheral buses.

And yet, they're not afraid of technology:  just more selective in the
developmental risks - witness the new CPU in the original MacBook Air,
the A4 in the iPad, the new screen on the iPhone4, etc.

And with all that, all those products were broke right out of the box. 

On Jul 25, 9:34=A0pm, "Redjac" <Redjack...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> "TocaMadera" <steelbende...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:235705f6-c548-4ff9-b279-a2b2bb3e2e4e@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> > expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> > Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> > existing iMac models.
>
> > Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we=92ll
> > probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
> > boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel=92s quad-
> > core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> > low-range iMacs will get Intel=92s low-end quad-core processor, the Cor=
e
> > i3.
>
> > If true, this rumor=92s worth getting excited about if you=92re looking
> > for a new iMac. Let=92s just hope that the update brings something
> > beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> > would be very nice indeed, Apple.
>
> Everyone else has been putting core i5 and i7 into everything and also US=
B3.
> Apple always seems to be miles behind.

"Everyone" has been putting core i5, core i7 into "everything" as well
as USB 3?  Have you actually looked at the specs of most of the
computers HP and Dell are selling?

"KDT" <scarface_74@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:0efa0edb-c63c-4c7b-9f26-4895d559138b@i21g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 25, 9:34 pm, "Redjac" <Redjack...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> "TocaMadera" <steelbende...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:235705f6-c548-4ff9-b279-a2b2bb3e2e4e@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> > expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> > Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> > existing iMac models.
>
> > Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we�ll
> > probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
> > boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel�s quad-
> > core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> > low-range iMacs will get Intel�s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
> > i3.
>
> > If true, this rumor�s worth getting excited about if you�re looking
> > for a new iMac. Let�s just hope that the update brings something
> > beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> > would be very nice indeed, Apple.
>
> Everyone else has been putting core i5 and i7 into everything and also 
> USB3.
> Apple always seems to be miles behind.

"Everyone" has been putting core i5, core i7 into "everything" as well
as USB 3?  Have you actually looked at the specs of most of the
computers HP and Dell are selling?

Can you get  computers from Dell with a core  i5 or i7?

Can you get USB3 in computers from Dell?  Can you get it in a Mac?

Do you ask questions like this for attention, or are you just ignorant? 

In article <d7b3o.103526$Lj2.101085@newsfe05.iad>,
 John Slade <hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote:

> On 7/26/2010 12:15 AM, Squat n'Dive wrote:
> > On Jul 25, 11:16 pm, TocaMadera<steelbende...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
> >> According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> >> expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Intel
> >> Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> >> existing iMac models.
> >>
> >> Such moves generally tip a hardware refresh. In this case, we�ll
> >> probably just see a speedbump, except for the entry-level iMacs, which
> >> boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel�s quad-
> >> core i5 and i7 CPUs. The most obvious assumption, then, is that the
> >> low-range iMacs will get Intel�s low-end quad-core processor, the Core
> >> i3.
> >>
> >> If true, this rumor�s worth getting excited about if you�re looking
> >> for a new iMac. Let�s just hope that the update brings something
> >> beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> >> would be very nice indeed, Apple.
> >
> > "Very nice"? You must be kidding, it's not a PC where you can
> > just stick a pci express usb 3.0 controller.
> > It's essential to have usb 3.0 in a closed box. Is it in new mac mini?
> >
> > Better yet give up on the all in one idiocy and get along with the pc
> > concept
> > of there is a screen... there is tower... there are a million twisty
> > cables in between
> >
> > But then, oh woe, the mac pro insane margins would go to toilet once
> > you
> > have to have an entry level tower for users with gobs of disdain
> > for mini and imac
> 
>      I couldn't have said it better. If Apple put out a tower 
> for $800 that could run OS X and Windows. They would sell a lot 
> more computers.

Nope. That's just you projecting your geeky preferences onto the 
mainstream market. Regular users care very little about things like 
internal expandability, which is why laptops now outsell desktops.

[snip]

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anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes

On Jul 26, 7:52=A0pm, ZnU <z...@fake.invalid> wrote:
> In article <d7b3o.103526$Lj2.101...@newsfe05.iad>,
> =A0John Slade <hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 7/26/2010 12:15 AM, Squat n'Dive wrote:
> > > On Jul 25, 11:16 pm, TocaMadera<steelbende...@yahoo.com> =A0wrote:
> > >> According to their sources, Apple is informing distributors not to
> > >> expect any further stock of the entry level, 21.5-inch, 3.06GHz Inte=
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> > >> Core 2 Duo iMac, while advising other retailers to sell off their
> > >> existing iMac models.
>
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> > >> boast last-generation Intel Core 2 Duo chips instead of Intel=B9s qu=
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> > >> low-range iMacs will get Intel=B9s low-end quad-core processor, the =
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>
> > >> If true, this rumor=B9s worth getting excited about if you=B9re look=
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> > >> for a new iMac. Let=B9s just hope that the update brings something
> > >> beefier than just an updated processor to the table. USB 3.0 support
> > >> would be very nice indeed, Apple.
>
> > > "Very nice"? You must be kidding, it's not a PC where you can
> > > just stick a pci express usb 3.0 controller.
> > > It's essential to have usb 3.0 in a closed box. Is it in new mac mini=
?
>
> > > Better yet give up on the all in one idiocy and get along with the pc
> > > concept
> > > of there is a screen... there is tower... there are a million twisty
> > > cables in between
>
> > > But then, oh woe, the mac pro insane margins would go to toilet once
> > > you
> > > have to have an entry level tower for users with gobs of disdain
> > > for mini and imac
>
> > =A0 =A0 =A0I couldn't have said it better. If Apple put out a tower
> > for $800 that could run OS X and Windows. They would sell a lot
> > more computers.
>
> Nope. That's just you projecting your geeky preferences onto the
> mainstream market. Regular users care very little about things like
> internal expandability, which is why laptops now outsell desktops.
>
That's because laptops have most hardware most users need these days
but comes usb3 and, say i need to swap my firewire video camera
for a newer tapeless offering that will likely come with usb3.0
instead of firewire,
and, all of a sudden, you need a new laptop, instead of just a new
usb3.0 card,
which is not only a major expense, but also a major headache, since
now
that i've heard what kind of sound comes from a $600 iPad I could not
pay about $1000
for a notebook with a crappy set of speakers.How do you sell high
quality mono
to a set of morons who are already used to a crappy "stereo"?
I don't want to be a marketing guy in this industry. Sigh.