It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to 
be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml

Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.

Nashton wrote:
> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to 
> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
> 
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml
> 
> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.



Of course you forget that in the past the anti-global climate change 
shills emails and other trails were exposed as fraudalent.

Nashton stated in post hej3as$26s$1@aioe.org on 11/25/09 4:10 AM:

> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
> 
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml
> 
> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.

I think it *is* a good idea to look into this.  Find where, if anywhere,
misinformation has been pushed as truth.  Once that is done, focus on what
will be even better established science.


-- 
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

John wrote:
> Nashton wrote:
>> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems 
>> to be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml 
>>
>>
>> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
> 
> 
> 
> Of course you forget that in the past the anti-global climate change 
> shills emails and other trails were exposed as fraudalent.

Of course, you do realize that they didn't merit a probe whereas in this 
case, there was enough material to merit a probe.

Hope this helps.

Nashton wrote:
> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to 
> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
> 
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml
> 
> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.

The really bad part is that the science has been corrupted by 
politicians by controlling who gets grants and who don't.
People will no longer trust a scientist as to whether he is telling the 
truth or not.
It looks like Inhofe has been proven right.

On Nov 25, 8:03=A0am, John <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Nashton wrote:
> > It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
> > be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>
> >http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180...
>
> > Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
>
> Of course you forget that in the past the anti-global climate change
> shills emails and other trails were exposed as fraudalent.

I remember a bunch of global warming extremists running around
declaring them fraudulent. I can't seem to recall any proof beyond
'Because we say so!'. Given what we now know to be a rock solid fact
about that ilk's honesty I'd say those claims are to be taken with a
grain of salt...a very, very large grain of salt.

Nashton <nana@na.ca> wrote:
> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems
> to 
> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
> 
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml

What does Congress have to do with Mac advocacy?
> 
> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.

On 11/25/09 5:04 PM, Mayor Of R'lyeh wrote:
> On Nov 25, 8:03 am, John<nos...@nospam.com>  wrote:
>> Nashton wrote:
>>> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
>>> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>>
>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180...
>>
>>> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
>>
>> Of course you forget that in the past the anti-global climate change
>> shills emails and other trails were exposed as fraudalent.
>
> I remember a bunch of global warming extremists running around
> declaring them fraudulent. I can't seem to recall any proof beyond
> 'Because we say so!'. Given what we now know to be a rock solid fact
> about that ilk's honesty I'd say those claims are to be taken with a
> grain of salt...a very, very large grain of salt.
>


Go back and read the Exxon emails where they admitted global climate 
change is real and that they had to concentrate on disputing it and they 
would do it by funding scientific quacks.  No opinions just facts.

John wrote:
> On 11/25/09 5:04 PM, Mayor Of R'lyeh wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 8:03 am, John<nos...@nospam.com>  wrote:
>>> Nashton wrote:
>>>> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
>>>> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>>>
>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180... 
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
>>>
>>> Of course you forget that in the past the anti-global climate change
>>> shills emails and other trails were exposed as fraudalent.
>>
>> I remember a bunch of global warming extremists running around
>> declaring them fraudulent. I can't seem to recall any proof beyond
>> 'Because we say so!'. Given what we now know to be a rock solid fact
>> about that ilk's honesty I'd say those claims are to be taken with a
>> grain of salt...a very, very large grain of salt.
>>
> 
> 
> Go back and read the Exxon emails where they admitted global climate 
> change is real and that they had to concentrate on disputing it and they 
> would do it by funding scientific quacks.  No opinions just facts.


Just because they were admitting it doesn't mean that it was the truth 
or real, not by any stretch of the imagination.

On Nov 25, 6:10=A0am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180...
>
> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.

But... but... but... David Fritzinger is a "scientist", he would NEVER
like or make up data.  Scientists are gods.

On Nov 25, 6:10=A0am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180...
>
> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.

Even this won't change a liberals mind. The only way to fix a big
government loving liberals brains is to put a bullet in the middle of
it.  Hope and Change. I Hope we have a 2nd Civil War so we can Change
our government.

In article <hej3as$26s$1@aioe.org>, Nashton <nana@na.ca> wrote:

> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to 
> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
> 
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml
> 
> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.

Your subject line should be "Climate change denialist Republicans to 
begin political grandstanding".

(As if they ever stopped.)

-- 
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes

On Nov 25, 8:52=A0pm, John <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 11/25/09 5:04 PM, Mayor Of R'lyeh wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 25, 8:03 am, John<nos...@nospam.com> =A0wrote:
> >> Nashton wrote:
> >>> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems =
to
> >>> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>
> >>>http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.=
...
>
> >>> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
>
> >> Of course you forget that in the past the anti-global climate change
> >> shills emails and other trails were exposed as fraudalent.
>
> > I remember a bunch of global warming extremists running around
> > declaring them fraudulent. I can't seem to recall any proof beyond
> > 'Because we say so!'. Given what we now know to be a rock solid fact
> > about that ilk's honesty I'd say those claims are to be taken with a
> > grain of salt...a very, very large grain of salt.
>
> Go back and read the Exxon emails where they admitted global climate
> change is real and that they had to concentrate on disputing it and they
> would do it by funding scientific quacks. =A0No opinions just facts.

Cite? Link to alleged email? And assuming they're real were they
relying on the work of the global warming extremists that we now know
were deliberately making the whole thing up  as 'proof' that it was
real?
And given what we now know to be fact about the integrity of the
global warming extremist 'science' team how can you call anyone else a
'quack'?

On Nov 25, 3:28=A0pm, GreyCloud <m...@cumulus.com> wrote:
> Nashton wrote:
> > It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
> > be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>
> >http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180...
>
> > Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
>
> The really bad part is that the science has been corrupted by
> politicians by controlling who gets grants and who don't.
> People will no longer trust a scientist as to whether he is telling the
> truth or not.
> It looks like Inhofe has been proven right.

Science whored out its soul in exchange for public funding a looong
time ago. I've been saying for a quite a while that anyone who
believed something just because 'science' says it was an idiot.
'Science' is just another special interest group these days that will
put out a report that says anything the funder wants it to say.

MuahMan wrote:
> On Nov 25, 6:10 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
>> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180...
>>
>> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
> 
> Even this won't change a liberals mind. The only way to fix a big
> government loving liberals brains is to put a bullet in the middle of
> it.  Hope and Change. I Hope we have a 2nd Civil War so we can Change
> our government.


Get some psychiatric help you crazy fuck.

On Nov 26, 12:53=A0am, John <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> MuahMan wrote:
> > On Nov 25, 6:10 am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
> >> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems t=
o
> >> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>
> >>http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180..=
..
>
> >> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
>
> > Even this won't change a liberals mind. The only way to fix a big
> > government loving liberals brains is to put a bullet in the middle of
> > it. =A0Hope and Change. I Hope we have a 2nd Civil War so we can Change
> > our government.
>
> Get some psychiatric help you crazy fuck.

Get a job. Get off welfare. Stop getting food stamps. Get your family
some health insurance you indigent fuck.

John wrote:
> On 11/25/09 5:04 PM, Mayor Of R'lyeh wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 8:03 am, John<nos...@nospam.com>  wrote:
>>> Nashton wrote:
>>>> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
>>>> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>>>
>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180... 
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
>>>
>>> Of course you forget that in the past the anti-global climate change
>>> shills emails and other trails were exposed as fraudalent.
>>
>> I remember a bunch of global warming extremists running around
>> declaring them fraudulent. I can't seem to recall any proof beyond
>> 'Because we say so!'. Given what we now know to be a rock solid fact
>> about that ilk's honesty I'd say those claims are to be taken with a
>> grain of salt...a very, very large grain of salt.
>>
> 
> 
> Go back and read the Exxon emails where they admitted global climate 
> change is real and that they had to concentrate on disputing it and they 
> would do it by funding scientific quacks.  No opinions just facts.

Hah!  Enron exec Lay helped Al Gore develope the carbon credit scheme.
That alone should tell you something is amiss.

Mayor Of R'lyeh wrote:
> On Nov 25, 3:28 pm, GreyCloud <m...@cumulus.com> wrote:
>> Nashton wrote:
>>> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
>>> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180...
>>> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
>> The really bad part is that the science has been corrupted by
>> politicians by controlling who gets grants and who don't.
>> People will no longer trust a scientist as to whether he is telling the
>> truth or not.
>> It looks like Inhofe has been proven right.
> 
> Science whored out its soul in exchange for public funding a looong
> time ago. I've been saying for a quite a while that anyone who
> believed something just because 'science' says it was an idiot.
> 'Science' is just another special interest group these days that will
> put out a report that says anything the funder wants it to say.
> 

Oh, I was also very aware of this when I worked for the feds.
Plus, I knew the two fellows at Rhodes and Bloxsoms research, and both 
of these were ridiculed for their theories on a better wind tunnel that 
didn't need air to prove new air foil models.  Both of them quit the 
aerospace firm that they worked for and started their own business and 
developed a better method that was able to test these models up to Mach 
50.  They got rich in the process.  Both said to stay away from getting 
any grants from the feds as all the feds were doing is cherry picking 
for results that politically favors their own agenda and position.  The 
feds always reduce or dangle out a wheelbarrow full of cash to 
politically corrupt scientists.  So I went into the field of reverse 
engineering for the feds instead.

Snit wrote:
> Nashton stated in post hej3as$26s$1@aioe.org on 11/25/09 4:10 AM:
> 
>> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
>> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml
>>
>> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
> 
> I think it *is* a good idea to look into this.  Find where, if anywhere,
> misinformation has been pushed as truth.  Once that is done, focus on what
> will be even better established science.
> 
> 
Correct.  It is needed to preserve the integrity of scientists.  There 
needs to be a way of protecting scientists from politicians and their 
agendas.

ZnU wrote:
> In article <hej3as$26s$1@aioe.org>, Nashton <nana@na.ca> wrote:
> 
>> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to 
>> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml
>>
>> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
> 
> Your subject line should be "Climate change denialist Republicans to 
> begin political grandstanding".
> 
> (As if they ever stopped.)
> 

It seems that democrats are innocent in this, eh?
Guffaw!!!  You are a believer in the left-wing/right-wing paradigm.
There is no difference between the parties, in case you didn't figure it 
out.
It is business as usual.

On Nov 25, 6:08=A0pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 6:10=A0am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>
> > It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
> > be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>
> >http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180...
>
> > Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
>
> But... but... but... David Fritzinger is a "scientist", he would NEVER
> like or make up data. =A0Scientists are gods.

No, stupid, scientists are human, just like everyone else. The
difference is that if a scientist publishes fraudulent data, it will
most likely be caught by some other scientist, trying to replicate his
work. So, there really isn't any future in lying about your data. And,
sadly, there are numerous examples of scientists who were caught
making up their data. And, they were caught, by other scientists.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:36:40 -0800, Dave Fritzinger wrote
(in article 
<d6754870-19ea-4e75-bb3d-bb2d245eb85e@a10g2000pre.googlegroups.com>):

> On Nov 25, 6:08�pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 6:10�am, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> It wasn't good enough for the morons in here, but the evidence seems to
>>> be adequate enough for Congress to begin a probe.
>> 
>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180...
>> 
>>> Do us all a favor evocheerleaders and get an adequate education.
>> 
>> But... but... but... David Fritzinger is a "scientist", he would NEVER
>> like or make up data. �Scientists are gods.
> 
> No, stupid, scientists are human, just like everyone else. The
> difference is that if a scientist publishes fraudulent data, it will
> most likely be caught by some other scientist, trying to replicate his
> work. So, there really isn't any future in lying about your data. And,
> sadly, there are numerous examples of scientists who were caught
> making up their data. And, they were caught, by other scientists.

Well, that's how it's supposed to work anyway, and science would be actually 
quite useless if worked any other way - in fact, it wouldn't be science at 
all since peer review is part and parcel of the scientific method.