http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1363

The "Weak WiFi" thread has gone from 41k views yesterday to 51k views
this morning.  This smoke has a fire under it.

In article <1ghrr5136kkm62aoaa7qnsvemfb8qvo08g@4ax.com>,
 Tommy the Troll <tom_elamatearthlinkdotnet> wrote:

> http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1363
> 
> The "Weak WiFi" thread has gone from 41k views yesterday to 51k views
> this morning.  This smoke has a fire under it.

And your point?  Apple has admitted there is an issue and has issued 
some ideas on what to do about it.  That tells me that a firmware fix 
will be coming along in the very near future.

But weak wifi isn't unique to this product at all.  In my home network, 
which is a mix of 5 Ghz N and 2.4 Ghz G wireless, I had to twiddle 
channels a bit when I got my netbook.

Everything else saw the wireless network with nice strong signals and 
good throughput.  But the netbook was twitchy, signal bars up and down, 
dropped connections and poor throughput.  This was all on 2.4Ghz as the 
netbook, like most windows boxes, doesn't have 5Ghz wireless in it.

I changed the network to all 2.4Ghz N and that worked better on the 
netbook, but worse on everything else.  So then I changed the N back to 
5Ghz and changed channels around on the 2.4Ghz for the G network.  Now 
all of the devices that are on the G network are working well and so is 
the N network.

-- 
Lloyd

On Apr 8, 8:59=A0am, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <1ghrr5136kkm62aoaa7qnsvemfb8qvo...@4ax.com>,
> =A0Tommy the Troll <tom_elamatearthlinkdotnet> wrote:
>
> >http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=3D1363
>
> > The "Weak WiFi" thread has gone from 41k views yesterday to 51k views
> > this morning. =A0This smoke has a fire under it.
>
> And your point? =A0Apple has admitted there is an issue and has issued
> some ideas on what to do about it. =A0That tells me that a firmware fix
> will be coming along in the very near future.
>
> But weak wifi isn't unique to this product at all. =A0In my home network,
> which is a mix of 5 Ghz N and 2.4 Ghz G wireless, I had to twiddle
> channels a bit when I got my netbook.
>
> Everything else saw the wireless network with nice strong signals and
> good throughput. =A0But the netbook was twitchy, signal bars up and down,
> dropped connections and poor throughput. =A0This was all on 2.4Ghz as the
> netbook, like most windows boxes, doesn't have 5Ghz wireless in it.
>
> I changed the network to all 2.4Ghz N and that worked better on the
> netbook, but worse on everything else. =A0So then I changed the N back to
> 5Ghz and changed channels around on the 2.4Ghz for the G network. =A0Now
> all of the devices that are on the G network are working well and so is
> the N network.
>
> --
> Lloyd

RRRRRIIIIGGGHHTT.


LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester.  Don't worry rev 2
will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.

In article 
<3195603c-874a-4da4-90fa-324fb827fb7c@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
 MuahMan <muahman@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 8, 8:59�am, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> > In article <1ghrr5136kkm62aoaa7qnsvemfb8qvo...@4ax.com>,
> > �Tommy the Troll <tom_elamatearthlinkdotnet> wrote:
> >
> > >http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1363
> >
> > > The "Weak WiFi" thread has gone from 41k views yesterday to 51k views
> > > this morning. �This smoke has a fire under it.
> >
> > And your point? �Apple has admitted there is an issue and has issued
> > some ideas on what to do about it. �That tells me that a firmware fix
> > will be coming along in the very near future.
> >
> > But weak wifi isn't unique to this product at all. �In my home network,
> > which is a mix of 5 Ghz N and 2.4 Ghz G wireless, I had to twiddle
> > channels a bit when I got my netbook.
> >
> > Everything else saw the wireless network with nice strong signals and
> > good throughput. �But the netbook was twitchy, signal bars up and down,
> > dropped connections and poor throughput. �This was all on 2.4Ghz as the
> > netbook, like most windows boxes, doesn't have 5Ghz wireless in it.
> >
> > I changed the network to all 2.4Ghz N and that worked better on the
> > netbook, but worse on everything else. �So then I changed the N back to
> > 5Ghz and changed channels around on the 2.4Ghz for the G network. �Now
> > all of the devices that are on the G network are working well and so is
> > the N network.
> >
> > --
> > Lloyd
> 
> RRRRRIIIIGGGHHTT.
> 
> 
> LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester.  Don't worry rev 2
> will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.

??  $849??  You can't even get one that costs that much yet...

And I look forward to the firmware update that will bring rev 2 out, 
thanks for letting me know I can expect it in a few weeks.

as to your snide remark, I don't lie here.  If I post something that 
I've done/seen, then I tell it the way it was perceived.  You could 
actually try doing that yourself on occasion.  I know, what a strange 
thought, huh?  Truth from the fat boy!

-- 
Lloyd

On Apr 8, 9:16=A0am, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article
> <3195603c-874a-4da4-90fa-324fb827f...@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 8, 8:59=A0am, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > In article <1ghrr5136kkm62aoaa7qnsvemfb8qvo...@4ax.com>,
> > > =A0Tommy the Troll <tom_elamatearthlinkdotnet> wrote:
>
> > > >http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=3D1363
>
> > > > The "Weak WiFi" thread has gone from 41k views yesterday to 51k vie=
ws
> > > > this morning. =A0This smoke has a fire under it.
>
> > > And your point? =A0Apple has admitted there is an issue and has issue=
d
> > > some ideas on what to do about it. =A0That tells me that a firmware f=
ix
> > > will be coming along in the very near future.
>
> > > But weak wifi isn't unique to this product at all. =A0In my home netw=
ork,
> > > which is a mix of 5 Ghz N and 2.4 Ghz G wireless, I had to twiddle
> > > channels a bit when I got my netbook.
>
> > > Everything else saw the wireless network with nice strong signals and
> > > good throughput. =A0But the netbook was twitchy, signal bars up and d=
own,
> > > dropped connections and poor throughput. =A0This was all on 2.4Ghz as=
 the
> > > netbook, like most windows boxes, doesn't have 5Ghz wireless in it.
>
> > > I changed the network to all 2.4Ghz N and that worked better on the
> > > netbook, but worse on everything else. =A0So then I changed the N bac=
k to
> > > 5Ghz and changed channels around on the 2.4Ghz for the G network. =A0=
Now
> > > all of the devices that are on the G network are working well and so =
is
> > > the N network.
>
> > > --
> > > Lloyd
>
> > RRRRRIIIIGGGHHTT.
>
> > LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester. =A0Don't worry rev =
2
> > will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.
>
> ?? =A0$849?? =A0You can't even get one that costs that much yet...
>
> And I look forward to the firmware update that will bring rev 2 out,
> thanks for letting me know I can expect it in a few weeks.

Yeah the firmware is going to add Flash, USB, dual camera, SD, and a
matte screen you can actually use in light.

>
> as to your snide remark, I don't lie here. =A0If I post something that
> I've done/seen, then I tell it the way it was perceived. =A0You could
> actually try doing that yourself on occasion. =A0I know, what a strange
> thought, huh? =A0Truth from the fat boy!
>
RRRRIIIGGGGHHHHT.

In article 
<1ad926da-f5cb-4b41-820e-3afbec6e4f85@w17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
 MuahMan <muahman@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 8, 9:16�am, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <3195603c-874a-4da4-90fa-324fb827f...@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > �MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Apr 8, 8:59�am, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <1ghrr5136kkm62aoaa7qnsvemfb8qvo...@4ax.com>,
> > > > �Tommy the Troll <tom_elamatearthlinkdotnet> wrote:
> >
> > > > >http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1363
> >
> > > > > The "Weak WiFi" thread has gone from 41k views yesterday to 51k views
> > > > > this morning. �This smoke has a fire under it.
> >
> > > > And your point? �Apple has admitted there is an issue and has issued
> > > > some ideas on what to do about it. �That tells me that a firmware fix
> > > > will be coming along in the very near future.
> >
> > > > But weak wifi isn't unique to this product at all. �In my home network,
> > > > which is a mix of 5 Ghz N and 2.4 Ghz G wireless, I had to twiddle
> > > > channels a bit when I got my netbook.
> >
> > > > Everything else saw the wireless network with nice strong signals and
> > > > good throughput. �But the netbook was twitchy, signal bars up and down,
> > > > dropped connections and poor throughput. �This was all on 2.4Ghz as the
> > > > netbook, like most windows boxes, doesn't have 5Ghz wireless in it.
> >
> > > > I changed the network to all 2.4Ghz N and that worked better on the
> > > > netbook, but worse on everything else. �So then I changed the N back to
> > > > 5Ghz and changed channels around on the 2.4Ghz for the G network. �Now
> > > > all of the devices that are on the G network are working well and so is
> > > > the N network.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Lloyd
> >
> > > RRRRRIIIIGGGHHTT.
> >
> > > LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester. �Don't worry rev 2
> > > will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.
> >
> > ?? �$849?? �You can't even get one that costs that much yet...
> >
> > And I look forward to the firmware update that will bring rev 2 out,
> > thanks for letting me know I can expect it in a few weeks.
> 
> Yeah the firmware is going to add Flash, USB, dual camera, SD, and a
> matte screen you can actually use in light.
> 
Don't hold your breath waiting for Flash on the iPad.

As to the other, I know that there are all you checklist readers seem to 
think that it needs much more to be viable.  Fortunately for Apple, you 
aren't the market they want to attract.  

A camera would be nice I suppose, but I wouldn't buy one based on a 
camera at all.  Shitty phone camera doesn't hold a candle to a decent 
actual camera.  Just a good way to get crappy pictures to bore friends 
and family with.

The SD card isn't needed by the target market.  And a matte screen 
wouldn't help much in bright light.

> >
> > as to your snide remark, I don't lie here. �If I post something that
> > I've done/seen, then I tell it the way it was perceived. �You could
> > actually try doing that yourself on occasion. �I know, what a strange
> > thought, huh? �Truth from the fat boy!
> >
> RRRRIIIGGGGHHHHT.

-- 
Lloyd

In article <1ghrr5136kkm62aoaa7qnsvemfb8qvo08g@4ax.com>,
 Tommy the Troll <tom_elamatearthlinkdotnet> wrote:

> http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1363
> 
> The "Weak WiFi" thread has gone from 41k views yesterday to 51k views
> this morning.  This smoke has a fire under it.

Why do you guys waste your time with this stuff? Nobody will care or 
remember in a couple of months.

And no, there isn't a double standard here. Apple fans in this newsgroup 
do this sort of thing with respect to Windows *far* less often than you 
guys do it with Apple products, despite there being a lot more 
opportunity for it.

I suppose it makes sense; it's part of the larger pattern you guys 
demonstrate of being uninterested in or simply incapable of 
understanding the big picture stuff.

-- 
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes

MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester. =A0Don't worry rev 2
> will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.

And of course, what you're really trying to say is that such things
always happen to only Apple and never to anyone else, especially
Windows .... right?


<g>


-hh

"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message 
news:2fbea51e-acf2-47be-a37a-656e6a175d2d@8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester. Don't worry rev 2
> will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.

And of course, what you're really trying to say is that such things
always happen to only Apple and never to anyone else, especially
Windows .... right?

But, but, but, aren't Macs supposed to be better.

"Mocassin joe" <joemocasa...@aol.com> wrote:
>> "-hh" <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester. Don't worry rev 2
>> > will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.
>>
>> And of course, what you're really trying to say is that such things
>> always happen to only Apple and never to anyone else, especially
>> Windows .... right?
>
> But, but, but, aren't Macs supposed to be better.


Since MuahBoy isn't willing to stand up for Windows products, it would
certainly appear that way, wouldn't it?



-hh

"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message 
news:c841820a-5baf-485a-bdbc-4577897814cd@s9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasa...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> "-hh" <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester. Don't worry rev 2
>>> > will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.
>>>
>>> And of course, what you're really trying to say is that such things
>>> always happen to only Apple and never to anyone else, especially
>>> Windows .... right?
>>
>> But, but, but, aren't Macs supposed to be better.
>
>
> Since MuahBoy isn't willing to stand up for Windows products, it would
> certainly appear that way, wouldn't it?
>
Windows products?  You mean Windows OS with 97% WMS?  No need to stand up 
for that.

The Zune - an mp3 player that has no real effect on the MSFT bottom line - 
why would he or anyone try to defend a failure? Only MacFreaks do that.  The 
XBOX that is a successful product.

Unlike,

Newton
bad Mac / Lucky Goldstar LCD's
Continuing overheating Mac, MacAir, iPhone and iPad problems.

I guess the undeniable fact is; a PC running Windows can do more, better, 
and faster, for less money and less problems,than a Mac.

In article <o5Hvn.81846$y13.14198@newsfe12.iad>,
 "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto@aol.com> wrote:

> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message 
> news:c841820a-5baf-485a-bdbc-4577897814cd@s9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasa...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> "-hh" <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
> >>> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester. Don't worry rev 2
> >>> > will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.
> >>>
> >>> And of course, what you're really trying to say is that such things
> >>> always happen to only Apple and never to anyone else, especially
> >>> Windows .... right?
> >>
> >> But, but, but, aren't Macs supposed to be better.
> >
> >
> > Since MuahBoy isn't willing to stand up for Windows products, it would
> > certainly appear that way, wouldn't it?
> >
> Windows products?  You mean Windows OS with 97% WMS?  No need to stand up 
> for that.
> 
> The Zune - an mp3 player that has no real effect on the MSFT bottom line - 
> why would he or anyone try to defend a failure? Only MacFreaks do that.  The 
> XBOX that is a successful product.
> 
> Unlike,
> 
> Newton
> bad Mac / Lucky Goldstar LCD's
> Continuing overheating Mac, MacAir, iPhone and iPad problems.
> 
> I guess the undeniable fact is; a PC running Windows can do more, better, 
> and faster, for less money and less problems,than a Mac.

Ah, I love the smell of quality bullshit in the morning!  :)

-- 
Lloyd

On Apr 8, 1:05=A0pm, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester. =A0Don't worry rev =
2
> > will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.
>
> And of course, what you're really trying to say is that such things
> always happen to only Apple and never to anyone else, especially
> Windows .... right?
>
> <g>
>
> -hh

Haven't rebooted my Windows machine since I built it and loaded
Windows 7. It appears they tested before they released it to the
general public. Apple could learn a thing or two.

MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Haven't rebooted my Windows machine since I built it and loaded
> Windows 7. It appears they tested before they released it to the
> general public. Apple could learn a thing or two.


Gosh, if that's the case, then you can show OP Tommy how Win7 should
have originally been done on his HP Laptop, including his onboard
Ethernet connection.


-hh

"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message 
news:lloydparsons-99ED37.09483509042010@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <o5Hvn.81846$y13.14198@newsfe12.iad>,
> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>> news:c841820a-5baf-485a-bdbc-4577897814cd@s9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasa...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>> "-hh" <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>> >>> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester. Don't worry rev 
>> >>> > 2
>> >>> > will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.
>> >>>
>> >>> And of course, what you're really trying to say is that such things
>> >>> always happen to only Apple and never to anyone else, especially
>> >>> Windows .... right?
>> >>
>> >> But, but, but, aren't Macs supposed to be better.
>> >
>> >
>> > Since MuahBoy isn't willing to stand up for Windows products, it would
>> > certainly appear that way, wouldn't it?
>> >
>> Windows products?  You mean Windows OS with 97% WMS?  No need to stand up
>> for that.
>>
>> The Zune - an mp3 player that has no real effect on the MSFT bottom 
>> line -
>> why would he or anyone try to defend a failure? Only MacFreaks do that. 
>> The
>> XBOX that is a successful product.
>>
>> Unlike,
>>
>> Newton
>> bad Mac / Lucky Goldstar LCD's
>> Continuing overheating Mac, MacAir, iPhone and iPad problems.
>>
>> I guess the undeniable fact is; a PC running Windows can do more, better,
>> and faster, for less money and less problems,than a Mac.
>
> Ah, I love the smell of quality bullshit in the morning!  :)

IOW:  It's tough to argue against the truth. :) 

"MuahMan" <muahman@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:05401845-7002-4a76-99e4-b35bc54ecca7@b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 8, 1:05 pm, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > LOL@ Apple fanbois paying $849 to be a beta tester. Don't worry rev 2
> > will be out in a few weeks, with all sorts of new hype.
>
> And of course, what you're really trying to say is that such things
> always happen to only Apple and never to anyone else, especially
> Windows .... right?
>
> <g>
>
> -hh

Haven't rebooted my Windows machine since I built it and loaded
Windows 7. It appears they tested before they released it to the
general public. Apple could learn a thing or two.

I reboot this XP machine every 90 days as a matter of regimen.  If you never 
shut them down, the HD might freeze in the event of a power outage.  A tip I 
got from a friend in the business. 

Joe writes:
>
> Haven't rebooted my Windows machine since I built it and loaded
> Windows 7. It appears they tested before they released it to the
> general public. Apple could learn a thing or two.

Every 90 days?

How many "patch tuesdays" is that?

My XP box doesn't go that long for that very reason, if nothing else
(and there usually are).

-hh