Been using TextWrangler and its quite nice. Is BBEdit much nicer? What 
are your views on it? I think how TextWrangler can open my HTML file and 
save directly to the server in a selected directory so I dont have to 
spend the time to open my FTP client. This is something that both 
Komposer and Sea Monkey are weak in.
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In article <jwolf6589-B2B63F.16285307032010@nntp.charter.net>, John
<jwolf6589@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> Been using TextWrangler and its quite nice. Is BBEdit much nicer? What 
> are your views on it? I think how TextWrangler can open my HTML file and 
> save directly to the server in a selected directory so I dont have to 
> spend the time to open my FTP client. This is something that both 
> Komposer and Sea Monkey are weak in.

Google.. it's your friend...

http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/2006/03/bbedit_vs_textmate.html?CMP=O
TC-13IV03560550&ATT=BBEdit%20vs.TextMate

( http://tinyurl.com/ylynjr7 )

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John <jwolf6589@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> Been using TextWrangler and its quite nice. Is BBEdit much nicer?

The basic user interface is identical. BBEdit adds a lot more features.
(TextWrangler is a cut-down version of BBEdit with those extra features
removed.)

Most of the extra features are related to programming, such as syntax
colouring (recognising keywords in programming languages) and
integration with version control systems like CVS or Subversion.

BBEdit also adds a lot of features for web authoring (HTML and CSS).

Have a look at the BareBones web site. Near the bottom of this page is a
"TextWrangler vs. BBEdit vs. BBEdit Lite" heading, with links to three
other pages that summarise BBEdit's advantages over TextWrangler.

http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/

[Note: followups to comp.sys.mac.apps only as this isn't a "system"
question.]
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In article <1jf17ph.d0h1l38ru1stN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:

> John <jwolf6589@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Been using TextWrangler and its quite nice. Is BBEdit much nicer?
> 
> The basic user interface is identical. BBEdit adds a lot more features.
> (TextWrangler is a cut-down version of BBEdit with those extra features
> removed.)
> 
> Most of the extra features are related to programming, such as syntax
> colouring (recognising keywords in programming languages) and
> integration with version control systems like CVS or Subversion.
> 
> BBEdit also adds a lot of features for web authoring (HTML and CSS).
> 
> Have a look at the BareBones web site. Near the bottom of this page is a
> "TextWrangler vs. BBEdit vs. BBEdit Lite" heading, with links to three
> other pages that summarise BBEdit's advantages over TextWrangler.
> 
> http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/
> 
> [Note: followups to comp.sys.mac.apps only as this isn't a "system"
> question.]

Thank you for your help. The HTML features may be interesting.
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John wrote:
> Been using TextWrangler and its quite nice. Is BBEdit much nicer? What =

> are your views on it? I think how TextWrangler can open my HTML file an=
d=20
> save directly to the server in a selected directory so I dont have to=20
> spend the time to open my FTP client. This is something that both=20
> Komposer and Sea Monkey are weak in.

Well, John, I think it's how one would define it. - Textwrangler is the=20
free and limited version of BBEdit - or maybe better, - Textwrangler is=20
the successor of BBEdit Lite 6.x.

You can read and write HTML in both BBEdit and Textwrangler, you can add =

all the many plug-ins around to Textwrangler as well as to BBEdit, but=20
not all of those plug-ins will work in Textwrangler - only in BBEdit.=20
You can use quite many of the old carbonized plug-ins with BBEdit, but=20
these plug-ins won't work with Textwrangler.

And here the 'funny' thing comes in - quite many of those carbonized=20
plug-ins also work with the BBEdit Lite 6.x, and that's why I've kept=20
using the BBEdit Lite as long as possible, because those plug-ins work=20
in both the OS 9.x and OS X version of BBEdit Lie 6, so it is not=20
necessary to take care neither which plaform you're working on. - But if =

you use Textwrangler on OS X and BBEdit Lite on an older OS 9.2.2, which =

I do regularely, you cannot be sure that a Textwrangler document - even=20
if it's been saved in HTML will open 100% kcorrectly in BBEdit Lite for=20
OS 9.x.... - I do have the full BBEdit 8.5, but I have stopped upgrading =

it, since I don't use it that much anymore - only a bit for editing some =

compiled string files when I'm translating applications from English to=20
Danish.

Else when just translating HTML documents I mostly now use the SeaMonkey =

2.x Composer, and this works very fine - also because you can set your=20
own font and size when working WYSIWYG in the Composer but without=20
risking to change the _real_ used font and size in the HTML document.

I'm not sure whether I understand your problems with SeaMonkey Composer=20
or not. - I don't have any problems saving HTML - or other of the=20
built-in formats - over a network to quite another computer on that=20
network, so if it's this you mean, there are no problems doing that.

But if you mean to save a HTML file _directly_ to an active webpage by=20
using a plug-in like "Save to Web" (BBEdit plug-in) to a webpage on an=20
online server hosted outside your place - and therefore also not=20
connected to your local network, it isnot possible with Textwrangler or=20
SeaMonkey Composer. - I have this plug-in somewhere for BBEdit, but the=20
compouter, where it is, is out of work for the moment, so I can't even=20
try it if it'll work with BBEdit 8.5, but if I remember right, it is a=20
carbonized plug-in, so it should be possible - at least on OS X=20
10.2.8-10.4.11.

But when this said, I will not recommend to save directly to an active=20
webpage, unless the page is built to have this feature. It might corrupt =

the whole page and the webpage saved to could simply break down. So it's =

always best to save to a local folder containing the whole page and=20
thereafter upload the full 'webpage' to replace the existing one.

So if it's the last few features you're looking for...well, I don't=20
think it's worth the money spent on BBEdit 9.x. But if it's because you=20
want to really make things easier, faster and more automated throuygh=20
plug-ins, BBEdit is the best tool, but the learning curve using BBEdit=20
is somewhat steep. - So if I were you, I'd keep on using and learning=20
first of all Textwrangler and use that one combined with SeaMonkey=20
Composer, since the Composer does have the full true WYSIWYG read/write, =

which Textwrangler doesnot have.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Erik Richard S=F8rensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP@Mstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
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In message <jwolf6589-B2B63F.16285307032010@nntp.charter.net> John
<jwolf6589@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>Been using TextWrangler and its quite nice. Is BBEdit much nicer? What
>are your views on it? I think how TextWrangler can open my HTML file
>and save directly to the server in a selected directory so I dont have
>to spend the time to open my FTP client. This is something that both
>Komposer and Sea Monkey are weak in.

BBEdit is a great program, and I do not regret buying it for a second.

It has a lot of features that TW lacks, but that does not means that TW
is not great in its own right.

The most obviosu difference is BBEdit's HTML markup tools, including
markup tools, syntax checking, and previewing.

BBEdit also has projects, includes, CVS support, and Shell Worksheets.

http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/bbeditonly.html

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