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Trying to download an audio file from NPR archives back in 1996.  File 
is supposedly at

pnm://real.npr.na-central.speedera.net/real.npr.na-central/raarchives/me/
nb6s0501.ra$0:22:31

but Real Player (latest version for Mac) tells me there's no DNS entry, 
or it doesn't recognize the URL.

Suggestions?  (thanks in advance for any assistance)
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Reply siegman (1553) 5/12/2011 7:15:07 PM

AES wrote:
> Trying to download an audio file from NPR archives back in 1996.  File 
> is supposedly at
> 
> pnm://real.npr.na-central.speedera.net/real.npr.na-central/raarchives/me/
> nb6s0501.ra$0:22:31
> 
> but Real Player (latest version for Mac) tells me there's no DNS entry, 
> or it doesn't recognize the URL.
> 
> Suggestions?  (thanks in advance for any assistance)

nslookup real.npr.na-central.speedera.net
Server:         10.0.0.20
Address:        10.0.0.20#53

** server can't find real.npr.na-central.speedera.net: NXDOMAIN


Its a problem with speedera.net

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Reply jfmezei.spamnot (8978) 5/12/2011 8:48:32 PM


In article <siegman-97A57E.12150712052011@sciid-srv02.med.tufts.edu>,
 AES <siegman@stanford.edu> wrote:

> Trying to download an audio file from NPR archives back in 1996.  File 
> is supposedly at
> 
> pnm://real.npr.na-central.speedera.net/real.npr.na-central/raarchives/me/
> nb6s0501.ra$0:22:31
> 
> but Real Player (latest version for Mac) tells me there's no DNS entry, 
> or it doesn't recognize the URL.
> 
> Suggestions?  (thanks in advance for any assistance)

What is the audio file? There maybe other ways to get to that particular 
recording.
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Reply everyday (246) 5/12/2011 11:01:27 PM

In article <everyday-62F0E9.16012712052011@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Gerry <everyday@sunrise.net> wrote:

> > Trying to download an audio file from NPR archives back in 1996.  File 
> > is supposedly at
> > 
> > pnm://real.npr.na-central.speedera.net/real.npr.na-central/raarchives/me/
> > nb6s0501.ra$0:22:31
> > 
> > but Real Player (latest version for Mac) tells me there's no DNS entry, 
> > or it doesn't recognize the URL.
> > 
> > Suggestions?  (thanks in advance for any assistance)
> 
> What is the audio file? There maybe other ways to get to that particular 
> recording.

Thanks for responding.  I'm starting from the following NPR web page for 
the "Morning Edition" show for September 5, 1996:

<http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=3&prgDate=09-05-
1996>

and wanting to get at the specific item

   Real Player
   Dan Charles Reports On Two Early Networks,
   Summary

All of the above phrases are clickable; one of them downloads a ".sml" 
file (?) to my Mac; none seems to get me the content of the broadcast.

[In case you ask why this particular item, I'm interested in Donner Pass 
as a historic transit route first for Indian tribes; then emigrant wagon 
trains and gold seekers; the first transcontinental RR; the first 
transcontinental highway (Lincoln Highway/US 40) and later US 80; the 
first transcontinental airline flights; and today for major petroleum 
pipelines and major fiber optic links from continental U.S. to Asia (my 
particular interest).  The above item is reported to be relevant to at 
least some of this.]
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Reply siegman (1553) 5/13/2011 3:45:06 PM

In article <siegman-A5F6D3.08450613052011@sciid-srv02.med.tufts.edu>,
 AES <siegman@stanford.edu> wrote:

> <http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=3&prgDate=09-05-
> 1996>
> 
> and wanting to get at the specific item
> 
>    Real Player
>    Dan Charles Reports On Two Early Networks,
>    Summary
> 
> All of the above phrases are clickable; one of them downloads a ".sml" 
> file (?) to my Mac; none seems to get me the content of the broadcast.

I had the same error dialog.  I clicked the "Help" button and got this 
information:

Please check the server name in the URL and try again.
Since RealPlayer was unable to find the server as it was listed in the 
address ("URL"), double-check the URL. Some servers are case sensitive. If 
the URL has a combination of upper and lower case letters, then must be 
capitalized must be used correctly. Also, check that the suffix is listed 
correctly. Sites that have .com endings cannot be reached if another 
suffix, for example .org or .edu, is used instead. 

Problems can also be caused when a main Domain Name Server ("DNS") 
experiences technical difficulty. For example, an incident involving the 
Domain Name Servers at Internic (July 17, 1997) only lasted approximately 4 
hours, but created a ripple effect that caused Internet users to experience 
DNS problems for several days. 

If you have verified the URL and a second attempt at the clip fails, send 
email to the Web site manager. Be sure to include the URL (or Web page 
description) so the site manager can locate the problem. 

If you receive this message while attempting to play any content on the 
Internet, contact your Internet Service Provider (ISP) or Network System 
Administrator.

-- 
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People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
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Reply michelle14 (18624) 5/13/2011 4:26:55 PM

In article <michelle-951131.09265513052011@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <siegman-A5F6D3.08450613052011@sciid-srv02.med.tufts.edu>,
>  AES <siegman@stanford.edu> wrote:
> 
> > <http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=3&prgDate=09-05-
> > 1996>
> > 
> > and wanting to get at the specific item
> > 
> >    Real Player
> >    Dan Charles Reports On Two Early Networks,
> >    Summary
> > 
> > All of the above phrases are clickable; one of them downloads a ".sml" 
> > file (?) to my Mac; none seems to get me the content of the broadcast.
> 
> I had the same error dialog.  I clicked the "Help" button and got this 
> information:
> 
> Please check the server name in the URL and try again.
> Since RealPlayer was unable to find the server as it was listed in the 
> address ("URL"), double-check the URL. Some servers are case sensitive. If 
> the URL has a combination of upper and lower case letters, then must be 
> capitalized must be used correctly. Also, check that the suffix is listed 
> correctly. Sites that have .com endings cannot be reached if another 
> suffix, for example .org or .edu, is used instead. 
> 
> Problems can also be caused when a main Domain Name Server ("DNS") 
> experiences technical difficulty. For example, an incident involving the 
> Domain Name Servers at Internic (July 17, 1997) only lasted approximately 4 
> hours, but created a ripple effect that caused Internet users to experience 
> DNS problems for several days. 
> 
> If you have verified the URL and a second attempt at the clip fails, send 
> email to the Web site manager. Be sure to include the URL (or Web page 
> description) so the site manager can locate the problem. 
> 
> If you receive this message while attempting to play any content on the 
> Internet, contact your Internet Service Provider (ISP) or Network System 
> Administrator.

Yep.  The link you click on 

<http://www.npr.org/templates/dmg/dmg.php?prgCode=ME&showDate=05-Sep-1996
&segNum=7>

is a php program which is obviously broken.  It opens a connection to 
npr.org on my system which is closed by the server.  So, you're either 
SOL here or maybe you know someone you can call to get it fixed.  
Something that old is probably many sysadmins away from the person who 
originally set it up, knows how it work, and can fix it.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]


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Reply vilain2 (1954) 5/13/2011 10:22:03 PM

In article <siegman-A5F6D3.08450613052011@sciid-srv02.med.tufts.edu>,
 AES <siegman@stanford.edu> wrote:

> I'm starting from the following NPR web page for 
> the "Morning Edition" show for September 5, 1996:
> 
> <http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=3&prgDate=09-05-
> 1996>
> 
> and wanting to get at the specific item
> 
>    Real Player
>    Dan Charles Reports On Two Early Networks,
>    Summary
> 
> All of the above phrases are clickable; one of them downloads a ".sml" 
> file (?) to my Mac; none seems to get me the content of the broadcast.

AES-

I tried using Safari with the Activity window showing.  I downloaded the 
..sml file and looked at it with a text editor.  Nothing seems to work.

Netscape Navigator 9.0b2 browser asked me to select an application to 
open the file behind the Real Media button.  Choosing QuickTime Player 
brought up an error message, 'The document "npr8040.smil" could not be 
opened.  QuickTime Player cannot open files in the "synchronized 
multimedia integration language" format.'  Is there a Real Player 
application for Macintosh?

Unless there is something else that happens on a Windows machine, it 
appears that the NPR system does not work.  You might try contacting the 
NPR webmaster and ask for a direct link to the audio or video file you 
want.

Fred
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Reply fmmck (548) 5/14/2011 12:34:59 AM

In article <fmmck-40F975.20345913052011@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
 Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> wrote:

> I tried using Safari with the Activity window showing.  I downloaded the 
> .sml file and looked at it with a text editor.  Nothing seems to work.
> 
> 
> Unless there is something else that happens on a Windows machine, it 
> appears that the NPR system does not work.  You might try contacting the 
> NPR webmaster and ask for a direct link to the audio or video file you 
> want.

Thanks -- your observations and mine were essentially the same.
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Reply siegman (1553) 5/14/2011 1:26:51 AM

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