New MBPr today , Address Book, where is the address suburb field? Not in 
template.

Could find naught on net,

I can import  a vcard from Snow Leopard with a suburb value, and that 
appears in the imported address book record in Lion, but a new address 
is street city state zip country

( new MBP gave the opportunity 2 connect 2 new 27 TB displays for the 
first time, one DOA , sigh)

In article <jtempa$avq$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 qubit <qubit@quandoveloce.com> wrote:

> New MBPr today , Address Book, where is the address suburb field? Not in 
> template.
> 
> Could find naught on net,
> 
> I can import  a vcard from Snow Leopard with a suburb value, and that 
> appears in the imported address book record in Lion, but a new address 
> is street city state zip country
> 
> ( new MBP gave the opportunity 2 connect 2 new 27 TB displays for the 
> first time, one DOA , sigh)

I have Snow Leopard, and I don't see a suburb field in my addresses, 
either.  I can't recall ever seeing that field.

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Arlington, MA
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Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <jtempa$avq$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>  qubit <qubit@quandoveloce.com> wrote:
> 
> > New MBPr today , Address Book, where is the address suburb field? Not in
> > template.
> > 
> > Could find naught on net,
> > 
> > I can import  a vcard from Snow Leopard with a suburb value, and that
> > appears in the imported address book record in Lion, but a new address
> > is street city state zip country

> I have Snow Leopard, and I don't see a suburb field in my addresses, 
> either.  I can't recall ever seeing that field.

Same here. I checked to see if that might be one of the optional things
you can activate in the "edit template" preferences. Don't see it there
either. I wonder if it might be from some non-U.S. localized version.

-- 
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email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
domain: summertriangle           |  -- Mark Twain

On 10/07/12 1:28 AM, Richard Maine wrote:
> Barry Margolin<barmar@alum.mit.edu>  wrote:
>
>> In article<jtempa$avq$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>   qubit<qubit@quandoveloce.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> New MBPr today , Address Book, where is the address suburb field? Not in
>>> template.
>>>
>>> Could find naught on net,
>>>
>>> I can import  a vcard from Snow Leopard with a suburb value, and that
>>> appears in the imported address book record in Lion, but a new address
>>> is street city state zip country
>
>> I have Snow Leopard, and I don't see a suburb field in my addresses,
>> either.  I can't recall ever seeing that field.
>
> Same here. I checked to see if that might be one of the optional things
> you can activate in the "edit template" preferences. Don't see it there
> either. I wonder if it might be from some non-U.S. localized version.
>

Ah!  non-U.S. localized version

found it - it is add ress book preferences, general tab, address format, 
setting to Australian causes a suburb field in edit mode

In Edit template, only an address can be added, no specifying the components

In message <barmar-F112D9.10290709072012@news.eternal-september.org>
  Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <jtempa$avq$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
>  qubit <qubit@quandoveloce.com> wrote:

>> New MBPr today , Address Book, where is the address suburb field? Not in
>> template.
>>
>> Could find naught on net,
>>
>> I can import  a vcard from Snow Leopard with a suburb value, and that
>> appears in the imported address book record in Lion, but a new address
>> is street city state zip country
>>
>> ( new MBP gave the opportunity 2 connect 2 new 27 TB displays for the
>> first time, one DOA , sigh)

> I have Snow Leopard, and I don't see a suburb field in my addresses,
> either.  I can't recall ever seeing that field.

Neither have I. When would you use it? If someone lives in Chicago, I'd
put Chicago for the city; if they live in Aurora, I'd put Aurora for the
city.

--
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Shallow graves are so much harder to come by.

On 10/07/12 6:02 AM, Lewis wrote:

>
>> I have Snow Leopard, and I don't see a suburb field in my addresses,
>> either.  I can't recall ever seeing that field.


>
> Neither have I. When would you use it? If someone lives in Chicago, I'd
> put Chicago for the city; if they live in Aurora, I'd put Aurora for the
> city.
>


What Chicago ( and the rest of your country) doesn't have suburbs? South 
Chicago?

A lot of the rest of the world does.

qubit <qubit@quandoveloce.com> wrote:

> What Chicago ( and the rest of your country) doesn't have suburbs? South
> Chicago?
> 
> A lot of the rest of the world does.

Of course there are suburbs. But they are not used as a separate part of
the address. Sometimes the suburb is used directly as the city name, but
you will never (as far as I know) see both city and suburb separately in
the U.S.. Well anyway you won't see it in a formal form of address that
the post office would sanction. Perhaps it might be used in an informal
description for someone who didn't know where the suburb in question
was, but that's likely to be in the form like "which is just south of
Chicago".

-- 
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email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
domain: summertriangle           |  -- Mark Twain

In article <jtfqi6$4dt$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 qubit <qubit@quandoveloce.com> wrote:

> On 10/07/12 6:02 AM, Lewis wrote:
> 
> >
> >> I have Snow Leopard, and I don't see a suburb field in my addresses,
> >> either.  I can't recall ever seeing that field.
> 
> 
> >
> > Neither have I. When would you use it? If someone lives in Chicago, I'd
> > put Chicago for the city; if they live in Aurora, I'd put Aurora for the
> > city.
> >
> 
> 
> What Chicago ( and the rest of your country) doesn't have suburbs? South 
> Chicago?
> 
> A lot of the rest of the world does.

We have suburbs, but they're usually cities and towns in their own 
right, and when you write an address you just name the city/town, not 
the city it's a suburb of.

For instance, I give my address as Arlington, Massachusetts, not 
Arlington, suburb of Boston, Massachusetts. Although, if I'm visiting 
some other part of the country (or another country), and someone asks 
where I'm from, I usually say Boston, since it's a well known way to 
identify the region (similarly, I say I grew up on Long Island, rather 
than naming the specific towns I lived in, since few people from other 
areas would know them).

-- 
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Arlington, MA
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In message <jtfqi6$4dt$1@speranza.aioe.org>
  qubit <qubit@quandoveloce.com> wrote:
> On 10/07/12 6:02 AM, Lewis wrote:

>>
>>> I have Snow Leopard, and I don't see a suburb field in my addresses,
>>> either.  I can't recall ever seeing that field.


>>
>> Neither have I. When would you use it? If someone lives in Chicago, I'd
>> put Chicago for the city; if they live in Aurora, I'd put Aurora for the
>> city.
>>


> What Chicago ( and the rest of your country) doesn't have suburbs? South
> Chicago?

I think suburb must mean something else to you. Here it means a
city/town/incorporation that is adjacent to the main central city,
sucking on it like a fetid leech. If someone lives in Aurora, Illinois,
that is a suburb of Chicago, but their address in Aurora, Illinois.

If someone lives on the south side of Chicago they would simply have a
Chicago address.

Wikipedia: "A suburb is a residential area, either existing as part of a
city (as in Australia and New Zealand, and generally in the United
Kingdom) or as a separate residential community within commuting
distance of a city (as in the United States and Canada).

What you call a suburb we call a neighborhood.

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Dibbler?' 'Only they write it &U,' said Dibbler. --Soul Music

On 10/07/12 11:00 AM, Lewis wrote:

>
> Wikipedia: "A suburb is a residential area, either existing as part of a
> city (as in Australia and New Zealand, and generally in the United
> Kingdom) or as a separate residential community within commuting
> distance of a city (as in the United States and Canada).
>
> What you call a suburb we call a neighborhood.
>


Quite so, in Oz, UK, NZ... it is a formal part of addressing used by the 
respective Postal Services, every letter, delivery...

In article <jtg209$in8$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 qubit <qubit@quandoveloce.com> wrote:

> On 10/07/12 11:00 AM, Lewis wrote:
> 
> >
> > Wikipedia: "A suburb is a residential area, either existing as part of a
> > city (as in Australia and New Zealand, and generally in the United
> > Kingdom) or as a separate residential community within commuting
> > distance of a city (as in the United States and Canada).
> >
> > What you call a suburb we call a neighborhood.
> >
> 
> 
> Quite so, in Oz, UK, NZ... it is a formal part of addressing used by the 
> respective Postal Services, every letter, delivery...

Boston also has these kinds of suburbs -- there are a number of 
communities that were once independent towns, but were incorporated into 
the city at some time.  You can generally address them either by their 
original name or Boston.  But we don't require you to put both in the 
address.

-- 
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Arlington, MA
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:17:18 +0930, qubit wrote:

> On 10/07/12 6:02 AM, Lewis wrote:
>
>>> I have Snow Leopard, and I don't see a suburb field in my addresses,
>>> either.  I can't recall ever seeing that field. 
> 
>> Neither have I. When would you use it? If someone lives in Chicago, I'd
>> put Chicago for the city; if they live in Aurora, I'd put Aurora for
>> the city.
> 
> What Chicago ( and the rest of your country) doesn't have suburbs? South
> Chicago?
> 
> A lot of the rest of the world does.

"Frank's Compulsive Guide to Postal Addresses" is a must read for any 
developer who has to deal with international addresses:

<http://www.columbia.edu/~fdc/postal/>

-- 
Paul Sture

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:24:16 +0930, qubit wrote:

> On 10/07/12 11:00 AM, Lewis wrote:
> 
> 
>> Wikipedia: "A suburb is a residential area, either existing as part of
>> a city (as in Australia and New Zealand, and generally in the United
>> Kingdom) or as a separate residential community within commuting
>> distance of a city (as in the United States and Canada).
>>
>> What you call a suburb we call a neighborhood.
>>
>>
> 
> Quite so, in Oz, UK, NZ... it is a formal part of addressing used by the
> respective Postal Services, every letter, delivery...

That's correct.  Each country has its own postal rules. See my previous 
post for relevant links.

-- 
Paul Sture

On 07-09-2012 21:54, qubit wrote:
> On 10/07/12 11:00 AM, Lewis wrote:
>> Wikipedia: "A suburb is a residential area, either existing as part of a
>> city (as in Australia and New Zealand, and generally in the United
>> Kingdom) or as a separate residential community within commuting
>> distance of a city (as in the United States and Canada).
>>
>> What you call a suburb we call a neighborhood.
>
> Quite so, in Oz, UK, NZ... it is a formal part of addressing used by the
> respective Postal Services, every letter, delivery...

Similarly in Mexico City, a "Colonia" is a neighborhood or suburb, but 
they will use it as part of the address.

New York has boroughs.  Not quite the same, but ...

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:15:48 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote
(in article <jtinkk$rsk$1@dont-email.me>):

> New York has boroughs.  Not quite the same, but ...
Good point. I recall that, before ZIP codes and in particular nine-digit 
ZIPs, it was common to see an address like
"Flushing, Queens, New York"
(Flushing being a neighborhood of Queens, the Borough.)
With the adoption of ZIPs, "Queens" isn't needed any more.

-- 
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but among those�whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
� �-- WH Auden

In article 
<0001HW.CC22E34E0049452BB030A9DF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Joe Dee <joe@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:15:48 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote
> (in article <jtinkk$rsk$1@dont-email.me>):
> 
> > New York has boroughs.  Not quite the same, but ...
> Good point. I recall that, before ZIP codes and in particular nine-digit 
> ZIPs, it was common to see an address like
> "Flushing, Queens, New York"
> (Flushing being a neighborhood of Queens, the Borough.)
> With the adoption of ZIPs, "Queens" isn't needed any more.

In fact, with the adoption of ZIPs, "Flushing, New York" is hardly 
needed.  And if you use ZIP+4, you may not even need the street name.

-- 
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Arlington, MA
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:32:53 -0400, Barry Margolin wrote:

> In article <0001HW.CC22E34E0049452BB030A9DF@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Joe Dee <joe@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:15:48 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote (in article
>> <jtinkk$rsk$1@dont-email.me>):
>> 
>> > New York has boroughs.  Not quite the same, but ...
>> Good point. I recall that, before ZIP codes and in particular
>> nine-digit ZIPs, it was common to see an address like "Flushing,
>> Queens, New York"
>> (Flushing being a neighborhood of Queens, the Borough.)
>> With the adoption of ZIPs, "Queens" isn't needed any more.
> 
> In fact, with the adoption of ZIPs, "Flushing, New York" is hardly
> needed.  And if you use ZIP+4, you may not even need the street name.

That is the case with the UK's Post Code system.  In theory at least the 
postal code plus street number are sufficient.

Good luck if either get smudged though.

-- 
Paul Sture

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:01:18 -0400, Joe Dee wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:15:48 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote (in article
> <jtinkk$rsk$1@dont-email.me>):
> 
>> New York has boroughs.  Not quite the same, but ...
> Good point. I recall that, before ZIP codes and in particular nine-digit
> ZIPs, it was common to see an address like "Flushing, Queens, New York"
> (Flushing being a neighborhood of Queens, the Borough.)
> With the adoption of ZIPs, "Queens" isn't needed any more.

In the UK it was also common to have something like "Small village/town,
Near large town/city".  Post Codes made that redundant, though it's still 
handy to quote to let folks know where in the country you are.

-- 
Paul Sture

On 07-11-2012 09:32, Barry Margolin wrote:
> In fact, with the adoption of ZIPs, "Flushing, New York" is hardly
> needed.  And if you use ZIP+4, you may not even need the street name.

Allegedly.  But I tried it once and it was returned to me "insufficient 
address"

;-)

-- 
Wes Groleau

   “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity.
    But I'm not so sure about the universe.”
                                — Albert Einstein

In article <ree0d9-si8.ln1@news1.chingola.ch>,
 Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:01:18 -0400, Joe Dee wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:15:48 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote (in article
> > <jtinkk$rsk$1@dont-email.me>):
> > 
> >> New York has boroughs.  Not quite the same, but ...
> > Good point. I recall that, before ZIP codes and in particular nine-digit
> > ZIPs, it was common to see an address like "Flushing, Queens, New York"
> > (Flushing being a neighborhood of Queens, the Borough.)
> > With the adoption of ZIPs, "Queens" isn't needed any more.
> 
> In the UK it was also common to have something like "Small village/town,
> Near large town/city".  Post Codes made that redundant, though it's still 
> handy to quote to let folks know where in the country you are.

In urban areas, it's likely the case that ZIP only is sufficient. In the 
(relative) sticks, are street names and numbers sufficiently unique to 
obviate the need for a city/town/hamlet name? Is that part of the spec 
for how ZIP codes are generated?

Steve

-- 
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"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, sidecar in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:29:34 -0700, Steve Fenwick wrote:

> In article <ree0d9-si8.ln1@news1.chingola.ch>,
>  Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:01:18 -0400, Joe Dee wrote:
>> 
>> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:15:48 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote (in article
>> > <jtinkk$rsk$1@dont-email.me>):
>> > 
>> >> New York has boroughs.  Not quite the same, but ...
>> > Good point. I recall that, before ZIP codes and in particular
>> > nine-digit ZIPs, it was common to see an address like "Flushing,
>> > Queens, New York" (Flushing being a neighborhood of Queens, the
>> > Borough.)
>> > With the adoption of ZIPs, "Queens" isn't needed any more.
>> 
>> In the UK it was also common to have something like "Small
>> village/town, Near large town/city".  Post Codes made that redundant,
>> though it's still handy to quote to let folks know where in the country
>> you are.
> 
> In urban areas, it's likely the case that ZIP only is sufficient. In the
> (relative) sticks, are street names and numbers sufficiently unique to
> obviate the need for a city/town/hamlet name? Is that part of the spec
> for how ZIP codes are generated?
> 

Where I lived in the sticks in the UK there were two "East View" 
addresses within a quarter of a mile of each other.  Yes they had 
separate codes, but at that point in the delivery chain it was down to a 
single postman and he would mix the two up.

Street names often get duplicated.  Imagine a series of small villages 
between 2 large towns which originally named the road according to which 
town it took you to (e.g. Oxford Road and London Road). As development 
turned those villages into one continuous built up area, the result today 
is one road which constantly alternates between the two names.

In the UK there is also the problem of house names rather than numbers 
being fashionable.  My parents did this, but at least had the common 
sense to put the name on a separate line and still include the number.

For a description of the addressing form in England, see

<http://www.columbia.edu/~fdc/postal/#england>

Note that the end of that section addresses the problem of not only 
getting the address correct for the UK postal system, but when sending a 
letter from the US, for USPS as well.

-- 
Paul Sture

In message <jtlj7u$umk$1@dont-email.me>
  Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> On 07-11-2012 09:32, Barry Margolin wrote:
>> In fact, with the adoption of ZIPs, "Flushing, New York" is hardly
>> needed.  And if you use ZIP+4, you may not even need the street name.

> Allegedly.  But I tried it once and it was returned to me "insufficient
> address"

From 1983 to 1997 I addressed all mail to my father with name, street,
and zip. I never put the city and state on the letters. In later years I
used the zip+4.

There is no reason for the city and state to be part of the address, but
the USPS insists it is a required part of the address. My test indicated
that it was not actually required, but I also used printed lables (or
printed onto envelopes).

For return addresses on non-personal mail I only put our last-name and zip+4.

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In article <4e92d9-gtk.ln1@news1.chingola.ch>,
 Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:29:34 -0700, Steve Fenwick wrote:
> 
> > In article <ree0d9-si8.ln1@news1.chingola.ch>,
> >  Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:01:18 -0400, Joe Dee wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:15:48 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote (in article
> >> > <jtinkk$rsk$1@dont-email.me>):
> >> > 
> >> >> New York has boroughs.  Not quite the same, but ...
> >> > Good point. I recall that, before ZIP codes and in particular
> >> > nine-digit ZIPs, it was common to see an address like "Flushing,
> >> > Queens, New York" (Flushing being a neighborhood of Queens, the
> >> > Borough.)
> >> > With the adoption of ZIPs, "Queens" isn't needed any more.
> >> 
> >> In the UK it was also common to have something like "Small
> >> village/town, Near large town/city".  Post Codes made that redundant,
> >> though it's still handy to quote to let folks know where in the country
> >> you are.
> > 
> > In urban areas, it's likely the case that ZIP only is sufficient. In the
> > (relative) sticks, are street names and numbers sufficiently unique to
> > obviate the need for a city/town/hamlet name? Is that part of the spec
> > for how ZIP codes are generated?
> > 
> 
> Where I lived in the sticks in the UK there were two "East View" 
> addresses within a quarter of a mile of each other.  Yes they had 
> separate codes, but at that point in the delivery chain it was down to a 
> single postman and he would mix the two up.

So there was enough information for correct delivery with street address 
and postal code, but the human factor got in the way?


> Street names often get duplicated.  Imagine a series of small villages 
> between 2 large towns which originally named the road according to which 
> town it took you to (e.g. Oxford Road and London Road). As development 
> turned those villages into one continuous built up area, the result today 
> is one road which constantly alternates between the two names.

But is the street name unique with a post code?


> In the UK there is also the problem of house names rather than numbers 
> being fashionable.  My parents did this, but at least had the common 
> sense to put the name on a separate line and still include the number.

Using a house name is rather romantic. Too bad we can't do that in the 
U.S.

Steve

-- 
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"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, sidecar in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 23:14:34 -0700, Steve Fenwick wrote:

> In article <4e92d9-gtk.ln1@news1.chingola.ch>,
>  Paul Sture <paul.nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:29:34 -0700, Steve Fenwick wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <ree0d9-si8.ln1@news1.chingola.ch>,
>> >  Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:01:18 -0400, Joe Dee wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:15:48 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote (in article
>> >> > <jtinkk$rsk$1@dont-email.me>):
>> >> > 
>> >> >> New York has boroughs.  Not quite the same, but ...
>> >> > Good point. I recall that, before ZIP codes and in particular
>> >> > nine-digit ZIPs, it was common to see an address like "Flushing,
>> >> > Queens, New York" (Flushing being a neighborhood of Queens, the
>> >> > Borough.)
>> >> > With the adoption of ZIPs, "Queens" isn't needed any more.
>> >> 
>> >> In the UK it was also common to have something like "Small
>> >> village/town, Near large town/city".  Post Codes made that
>> >> redundant, though it's still handy to quote to let folks know where
>> >> in the country you are.
>> > 
>> > In urban areas, it's likely the case that ZIP only is sufficient. In
>> > the (relative) sticks, are street names and numbers sufficiently
>> > unique to obviate the need for a city/town/hamlet name? Is that part
>> > of the spec for how ZIP codes are generated?
>> > 
>> > 
>> Where I lived in the sticks in the UK there were two "East View"
>> addresses within a quarter of a mile of each other.  Yes they had
>> separate codes, but at that point in the delivery chain it was down to
>> a single postman and he would mix the two up.
> 
> So there was enough information for correct delivery with street address
> and postal code, but the human factor got in the way?

Yes. Thinking back our postman wasn't 100% accurate with his deliveries 
to my hamlet of half a dozen houses either.  It was not unusual to get 
next door's post and anything with a foreign postage stamp got delivered 
to the guy who ran an export business by default ;-)
 
It's different here in Switzerland, where the post code is a 4 digit 
number representing a much larger area.  For example Zurich is 8000 and 
district 3 of Zurich gets 8003.

Another major difference in Switzerland is that you have your name on 
(your usually external) letterbox. Apartments in a block aren't numbered, 
so the name is the only way of getting post into the correct letterbox.
This solves the human error problem above, but if you are sending post to 
someone staying as guest you need to put "c/o Whoever" in the address.

>> Street names often get duplicated.  Imagine a series of small villages
>> between 2 large towns which originally named the road according to
>> which town it took you to (e.g. Oxford Road and London Road). As
>> development turned those villages into one continuous built up area,
>> the result today is one road which constantly alternates between the
>> two names.
> 
> But is the street name unique with a post code?

I think so.
 
>> In the UK there is also the problem of house names rather than numbers
>> being fashionable.  My parents did this, but at least had the common
>> sense to put the name on a separate line and still include the number.
> 
> Using a house name is rather romantic. Too bad we can't do that in the
> U.S.

It's fine if you have a fairly unique looking house but is laughable when 
applied to "little boxes" of different colors "all made out of ticky-
tacky and they all look just the same." (Pete Seeger's Little Boxes).

-- 
Paul Sture

On 07-14-2012 08:39, Paul Sture wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 23:14:34 -0700, Steve Fenwick wrote:
>> Using a house name is rather romantic. Too bad we can't do that in the
>> U.S.

You can.  Post Office will (I think) ignore it, though building names 
might help them out in a commercial area.

> It's fine if you have a fairly unique looking house but is laughable when
> applied to "little boxes" of different colors "all made out of ticky-
> tacky and they all look just the same." (Pete Seeger's Little Boxes).

Then again, if houses had names, maybe my neighbor wouldn't have hung
a sign saying, "This is 505 Bradfield, NOT 505 Oakfield."

-- 
Wes Groleau

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In article <jts58t$uel$1@dont-email.me>,
 Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 07-14-2012 08:39, Paul Sture wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 23:14:34 -0700, Steve Fenwick wrote:
> >> Using a house name is rather romantic. Too bad we can't do that in the
> >> U.S.
> 
> You can.  Post Office will (I think) ignore it, though building names 
> might help them out in a commercial area.

Our postman knows us well, so we might get away with an address that has 
a house name and our name, but I'm not sure it would get sent through 
the mails correctly (how would they sort it to the right postman?)


> > It's fine if you have a fairly unique looking house but is laughable when
> > applied to "little boxes" of different colors "all made out of ticky-
> > tacky and they all look just the same." (Pete Seeger's Little Boxes).

Almost all the houses around here are unique, or close enough.


> Then again, if houses had names, maybe my neighbor wouldn't have hung
> a sign saying, "This is 505 Bradfield, NOT 505 Oakfield."

True.

Steve

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arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, sidecar in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"