I am using a MacBook Pro with 10.4.latest and I am noticing that when I 
am on the road, I can use Eudora to download emails, but I generally 
cannot send with that program.

This has to do with when the hotel or whatever has wireless access.  If 
there is a cable connection, there is no problem using Eudora Pro for 
emails - I can receive and I can send.

Eudora Pro version is 6.2.4

Now this seems to be a unique thing to me.  (Well, if you can believe 
lodging staff, that is...) What would happen if I were to use MS 
Entourage for emails instead?  Same problem?  I have been using Eudora 
Pro for too many years to admit to on my tower and I thought I'd use the 
same thing on the MacBook Pro, but I am not a fanatic with the laptop...

Any help?

HR.

In article <rowbotth-722883.19312305092009@news.newsgroupdirect.com>,
Henry Rowbottom <rowbotth@telusplanet.net> wrote:

> I am using a MacBook Pro with 10.4.latest and I am noticing that when I 
> am on the road, I can use Eudora to download emails, but I generally 
> cannot send with that program.
> 
> This has to do with when the hotel or whatever has wireless access.  If 
> there is a cable connection, there is no problem using Eudora Pro for 
> emails - I can receive and I can send.

that's normally because public internet access blocks outgoing email
because it can be abused to spam. it doesn't matter what email app you
use, they'll all hit the same block. i'm surprised it works with a
wired connection though.

contact your isp to see if they have a solution. my isp uses alternate
ports in case the standard ones are blocked and also requires
authentication when not on their network (i.e., not at home). you could
also use web mail if your isp offers it (or gmail).

In article <050920091943530342%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <rowbotth-722883.19312305092009@news.newsgroupdirect.com>,
> Henry Rowbottom <rowbotth@telusplanet.net> wrote:
> 
> > I am using a MacBook Pro with 10.4.latest and I am noticing that when I 
> > am on the road, I can use Eudora to download emails, but I generally 
> > cannot send with that program.
> > 
> > This has to do with when the hotel or whatever has wireless access.  If 
> > there is a cable connection, there is no problem using Eudora Pro for 
> > emails - I can receive and I can send.
> 
> that's normally because public internet access blocks outgoing email
> because it can be abused to spam. it doesn't matter what email app you
> use, they'll all hit the same block. i'm surprised it works with a
> wired connection though.
> 
> contact your isp to see if they have a solution. my isp uses alternate
> ports in case the standard ones are blocked and also requires
> authentication when not on their network (i.e., not at home). you could
> also use web mail if your isp offers it (or gmail).

It might also be that your ISP blocks connections to their mail servers 
from locations that obviously do not belong to one of their customers.

-- 
Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
http://www.atomicbird.com/

Tom Harrington <tph@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:

> In article <050920091943530342%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > In article <rowbotth-722883.19312305092009@news.newsgroupdirect.com>,
> > Henry Rowbottom <rowbotth@telusplanet.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > I am using a MacBook Pro with 10.4.latest and I am noticing that when I
> > > am on the road, I can use Eudora to download emails, but I generally
> > > cannot send with that program.
> > > 
> > > This has to do with when the hotel or whatever has wireless access.  If
> > > there is a cable connection, there is no problem using Eudora Pro for
> > > emails - I can receive and I can send.
> > 
> > that's normally because public internet access blocks outgoing email
> > because it can be abused to spam. it doesn't matter what email app you
> > use, they'll all hit the same block. i'm surprised it works with a
> > wired connection though.
> 
> It might also be that your ISP blocks connections to their mail servers
> from locations that obviously do not belong to one of their customers.

Certainly many (most, even?) ISPs do that, but if that is the cause
here, then it seems harder to explain the connection between wired and
wireless access at the hotel. On the other hand, it is fairly easy to
imagine such a conection for the hotel doing the blocking. I wouldn't
expect 100% correlation, but then I seriously doubt that the OP has
enough data to support that anyway. I can easily imagine that wireless
hotel setups might tend to by default come with a higher level of
security against thins like spam injection; it is much nastier if
someone can inject spam while sitting in the street in their car than if
they have to rent a room from you (and give ID, etc.).

-- 
Richard Maine                    | Good judgment comes from experience;
email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
domain: summertriangle           |  -- Mark Twain

In article <tph-CFF552.21041505092009@localhost>, Tom Harrington
<tph@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:

> It might also be that your ISP blocks connections to their mail servers 
> from locations that obviously do not belong to one of their customers.

true, but most allow it if you authenticate. there's really no reason
to block it completely unless the isp is customer hostile.

In article <1j5l6ow.qm1h5mvafg4gN%nospam@see.signature>,
 nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote:

> Tom Harrington <tph@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article <050920091943530342%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> >  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <rowbotth-722883.19312305092009@news.newsgroupdirect.com>,
> > > Henry Rowbottom <rowbotth@telusplanet.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I am using a MacBook Pro with 10.4.latest and I am noticing that when I
> > > > am on the road, I can use Eudora to download emails, but I generally
> > > > cannot send with that program.
> > > > 
> > > > This has to do with when the hotel or whatever has wireless access.  If
> > > > there is a cable connection, there is no problem using Eudora Pro for
> > > > emails - I can receive and I can send.
> > > 
> > > that's normally because public internet access blocks outgoing email
> > > because it can be abused to spam. it doesn't matter what email app you
> > > use, they'll all hit the same block. i'm surprised it works with a
> > > wired connection though.
> > 
> > It might also be that your ISP blocks connections to their mail servers
> > from locations that obviously do not belong to one of their customers.
> 
> Certainly many (most, even?) ISPs do that, but if that is the cause
> here, then it seems harder to explain the connection between wired and
> wireless access at the hotel. On the other hand, it is fairly easy to
> imagine such a conection for the hotel doing the blocking. I wouldn't
> expect 100% correlation, but then I seriously doubt that the OP has
> enough data to support that anyway. I can easily imagine that wireless
> hotel setups might tend to by default come with a higher level of
> security against thins like spam injection; it is much nastier if
> someone can inject spam while sitting in the street in their car than if
> they have to rent a room from you (and give ID, etc.).

Well, here is me thinking it has something to do with the wireless 
router that I am thinking may not be present with the hard wired 
connection?

I have a router at home and I believe that I have sent emails from this 
MacBook when connected to my ISP via that router, so I am thinking that 
maybe there is some security in the router that I do not have when I am 
at home?  But if I knew what it was maybe I can get through it when Im 
on the road again?

Or what?

HR.

> > > I am using a MacBook Pro with 10.4.latest and I am noticing that when I 
> > > am on the road, I can use Eudora to download emails, but I generally 
> > > cannot send with that program.

> > that's normally because public internet access blocks outgoing email
> > because it can be abused to spam. it doesn't matter what email app you
> > use, they'll all hit the same block. i'm surprised it works with a
> > wired connection though.

> > contact your isp to see if they have a solution. my isp uses alternate
> > ports in case the standard ones are blocked and also requires
> > authentication when not on their network (i.e., not at home). you could
> > also use web mail if your isp offers it (or gmail).

> It might also be that your ISP blocks connections to their mail servers 
> from locations that obviously do not belong to one of their customers.

I've encountered the same problem, and been given a fix.

My email server is at Stanford University, where I have a so-called 
SUNet account. The copy of Eudora on my laptop has a Stanford popserver 
set as its SMTP server. When I was online in far-flung hotels, airports, 
laboratories, etc, I was generally always download my emails and send 
email to colleagues at Stanford; but was sometimes unable to send to 
other non-Stanford email addresses through this Stanford server.

Stanford's IT people told me that I needed to set up something called 
"proxying" on my SUNet account and pointed me to a Stanford web page 
that told me how to do it.  Understanding exactly what a "proxy" is is 
beyond my pay grade, but that may be the word you want to ask your IT 
people about.