I'm frustrated.  I went to C-Span's convention site to check out some of
the speaches I wanted to see.  They're xxx.rm files.

When I click on one, up comes Quicktime Player, which promptly declares
"unsupported transport" and won't play the file.

So, I "View Source" on the page, find & copy the url for the .rm file,
open RealPlayer, select play location and paste in the url.    Works
fine.


In the Finder, I do a get info on an xxx.rm set RealPlayer to open it,
and "change all".

I quit Safari, restart it, and navigate back to the website.

Still, when I click on the file I want, Quicktime comes up and fails to
play it.

How do I fix that -- That is, how do I get real player to run instead of
quicktime when I click on an appropriate link?


Why isn't there a mime.types/mailcap file I can edit to make things work
like I want?

joe

In article <m24qnkckq8.fsf@Jupiter.local>, Joe Davison
<haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:

> I'm frustrated.  I went to C-Span's convention site to check out some of
> the speaches I wanted to see.  They're xxx.rm files.
> 
> When I click on one, up comes Quicktime Player, which promptly declares
> "unsupported transport" and won't play the file.
> 
> So, I "View Source" on the page, find & copy the url for the .rm file,
> open RealPlayer, select play location and paste in the url.    Works
> fine.
> 
> 
> In the Finder, I do a get info on an xxx.rm set RealPlayer to open it,
> and "change all".
> 
> I quit Safari, restart it, and navigate back to the website.
> 
> Still, when I click on the file I want, Quicktime comes up and fails to
> play it.
> 
> How do I fix that -- That is, how do I get real player to run instead of
> quicktime when I click on an appropriate link?

System Preferences > QuickTime > Plug-In > MIME settings .
 Uncheck the ones you don't want the QuickTime Plug-In to process.

> 
> 
> Why isn't there a mime.types/mailcap file I can edit to make things work
> like I want?
> 
> joe

Philo D <doozy@earthling.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <m24qnkckq8.fsf@Jupiter.local>, Joe Davison
> <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > I'm frustrated.  I went to C-Span's convention site to check out some of
> > the speaches I wanted to see.  They're xxx.rm files.
> > 
> > When I click on one, up comes Quicktime Player, which promptly declares
> > "unsupported transport" and won't play the file.
> > 
> > So, I "View Source" on the page, find & copy the url for the .rm file,
> > open RealPlayer, select play location and paste in the url.    Works
> > fine.
> > 
> > 
> > In the Finder, I do a get info on an xxx.rm set RealPlayer to open it,
> > and "change all".
> > 
> > I quit Safari, restart it, and navigate back to the website.
> > 
> > Still, when I click on the file I want, Quicktime comes up and fails to
> > play it.
> > 
> > How do I fix that -- That is, how do I get real player to run instead of
> > quicktime when I click on an appropriate link?
> 
> System Preferences > QuickTime > Plug-In > MIME settings .
>  Uncheck the ones you don't want the QuickTime Plug-In to process.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Why isn't there a mime.types/mailcap file I can edit to make things work
> > like I want?
> > 
> > joe

How about a Get Info on a .rm file, change the "open with"  from QT to
realplayer and then hit the "change all."  Seems to work for everything
- not just media files.
-- 
Paul Fuchs
paulfuchs-at-attglobal-dot-net
Sitting on a small rock (St. John) in the Caribbean

Joe Davison wrote:

> How do I fix that -- That is, how do I get real player to run instead of
> quicktime when I click on an appropriate link?

Change it in helper apps (either Explorer prefs or DefaultApp).

On 2004-08-03 08:46:24 -0700, Philo D <doozy@earthling.net.invalid> said:

> In article <m24qnkckq8.fsf@Jupiter.local>, Joe Davison
> <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:
>> How do I fix that -- That is, how do I get real player to run instead of
>> quicktime when I click on an appropriate link?
> 
> System Preferences > QuickTime > Plug-In > MIME settings .
>  Uncheck the ones you don't want the QuickTime Plug-In to process.

After doing that, also choose Check Media Types from RealPlayer's Help 
menu, and be sure RealPlayer is set to handle rtsp protocol links.  You 
might uncheck and recheck the rtsp checkbox to force RealPlayer to 
re-save its media type settings.

Greg Robbins

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Paul Fuchs wrote:
>  Philo D <doozy@earthling.net.invalid> wrote:
>  
> > In article <m24qnkckq8.fsf@Jupiter.local>, Joe Davison
> > <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
....
> > > In the Finder, I do a get info on an xxx.rm set RealPlayer to open
> > > it, and "change all".
> > > 
> > > I quit Safari, restart it, and navigate back to the website.
> > > 
> > > Still, when I click on the file I want, Quicktime comes up and
> > > fails to play it.
> > > 
....
> > > 
> > > Why isn't there a mime.types/mailcap file I can edit to make
> > > things work like I want?
> > > 
> > > joe
>  
>  How about a Get Info on a .rm file, change the "open with" from QT to
>  realplayer and then hit the "change all."  Seems to work for
>  everything - not just media files.


Um, as you can see, I did that   Interestingly, it didn't fix the
problem.  Perhaps that's why I asked.

Besides, that only works for files one has a copy of -- or, I suppose I
can 'touch' a file with the appropriate type and then getInfo,etc, but
it really seems the hard way around, when an editor works just fine.  

However, wishing it was different is hardly worth the effort.  I just
wish it worked.  I'll see if the system preferences approach works.

thanks anyway.

joe

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Greg Robbins wrote:
>  On 2004-08-03 08:46:24 -0700, Philo D <doozy@earthling.net.invalid>
>  said:
>  
> > In article <m24qnkckq8.fsf@Jupiter.local>, Joe Davison
> > <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> How do I fix that -- That is, how do I get real player to run
> >> instead of quicktime when I click on an appropriate link?
> > System Preferences > QuickTime > Plug-In > MIME settings .
> >  Uncheck the ones you don't want the QuickTime Plug-In to process.
>  
>  After doing that, also choose Check Media Types from RealPlayer's
>  Help menu, and be sure RealPlayer is set to handle rtsp protocol
>  links.  You might uncheck and recheck the rtsp checkbox to force
>  RealPlayer to re-save its media type settings.
>  

That was a good idea, it seems -- RealOnePlayer said there were several
misconfigured types, which I had it fix...

but when I navigated back to the page & clicked on a link, it still
brought up QT... which failed, as usual.

Maybe I should try Mozilla

joe

In article <m2u0vjbtwt.fsf@Jupiter.local>,
 Joe Davison <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Paul Fuchs wrote:
> >  Philo D <doozy@earthling.net.invalid> wrote:
> >  
> > > In article <m24qnkckq8.fsf@Jupiter.local>, Joe Davison
> > > <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> ...
> > > > In the Finder, I do a get info on an xxx.rm set RealPlayer to open
> > > > it, and "change all".
> > > > 
> > > > I quit Safari, restart it, and navigate back to the website.
> > > > 
> > > > Still, when I click on the file I want, Quicktime comes up and
> > > > fails to play it.
> > > > 
> ...
> > > > 
> > > > Why isn't there a mime.types/mailcap file I can edit to make
> > > > things work like I want?
> > > > 
> > > > joe
> >  
> >  How about a Get Info on a .rm file, change the "open with" from QT to
> >  realplayer and then hit the "change all."  Seems to work for
> >  everything - not just media files.
> 
> 
> Um, as you can see, I did that   Interestingly, it didn't fix the
> problem.  Perhaps that's why I asked.
> 
> Besides, that only works for files one has a copy of -- or, I suppose I
> can 'touch' a file with the appropriate type and then getInfo,etc, but
> it really seems the hard way around, when an editor works just fine.  
> 
> However, wishing it was different is hardly worth the effort.  I just
> wish it worked.  I'll see if the system preferences approach works.
> 
> thanks anyway.

Can you provide a link that isn't working for you so we can try it? I 
just went to the C-SPAN convention page and clicked on the Kerry link. 
Safari opened RealOnePlayer and it started playing the video after a 
short delay.

-- 
Gordon Alley  <*>
<mailto:galley@texas.net>
<http://galley.home.texas.net>

Joe Davison <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Paul Fuchs wrote:
> >  Philo D <doozy@earthling.net.invalid> wrote:
> >  
> > > In article <m24qnkckq8.fsf@Jupiter.local>, Joe Davison
> > > <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> ...
> > > > In the Finder, I do a get info on an xxx.rm set RealPlayer to open
> > > > it, and "change all".
> > > > 
> > > > I quit Safari, restart it, and navigate back to the website.
> > > > 
> > > > Still, when I click on the file I want, Quicktime comes up and
> > > > fails to play it.
> > > > 
> ...
> > > > 
> > > > Why isn't there a mime.types/mailcap file I can edit to make
> > > > things work like I want?
> > > > 
> > > > joe
> >  
> >  How about a Get Info on a .rm file, change the "open with" from QT to
> >  realplayer and then hit the "change all."  Seems to work for
> >  everything - not just media files.
> 
> 
> Um, as you can see, I did that   Interestingly, it didn't fix the
> problem.  Perhaps that's why I asked.
> 
> Besides, that only works for files one has a copy of -- or, I suppose I
> can 'touch' a file with the appropriate type and then getInfo,etc, but
> it really seems the hard way around, when an editor works just fine.
> 
> However, wishing it was different is hardly worth the effort.  I just
> wish it worked.  I'll see if the system preferences approach works.
> 
> thanks anyway.
> 
> joe

Sorry.  Guess I have a short term memort problem ;-)

-- 
Paul Fuchs
paulfuchs-at-attglobal-dot-net
Sitting on a small rock (St. John) in the Caribbean

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004, Gordon B. Alley wrote:
>  In article <m2u0vjbtwt.fsf@Jupiter.local>,
>   Joe Davison <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:
>  
> > On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Paul Fuchs wrote:
> > >  Philo D <doozy@earthling.net.invalid> wrote:
> > >  
> > > > In article <m24qnkckq8.fsf@Jupiter.local>, Joe Davison
> > > > <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > ...
> > > > > In the Finder, I do a get info on an xxx.rm set RealPlayer to
> > > > > open it, and "change all".
> > > > > 
> > > > > I quit Safari, restart it, and navigate back to the website.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Still, when I click on the file I want, Quicktime comes up and
> > > > > fails to play it.
> > > > > 
> > ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why isn't there a mime.types/mailcap file I can edit to make
> > > > > things work like I want?
> > > > > 
> > > > > joe
> > >  
> > >  How about a Get Info on a .rm file, change the "open with" from
> > >  QT to realplayer and then hit the "change all."  Seems to work
> > >  for everything - not just media files.
> > 
> > 
> > Um, as you can see, I did that   Interestingly, it didn't fix the
> > problem.  Perhaps that's why I asked.
> > 
> > Besides, that only works for files one has a copy of -- or, I
> > suppose I can 'touch' a file with the appropriate type and then
> > getInfo,etc, but it really seems the hard way around, when an editor
> > works just fine.
> > 
> > However, wishing it was different is hardly worth the effort.  I
> > just wish it worked.  I'll see if the system preferences approach
> > works.
> > 
> > thanks anyway.
>  
>  Can you provide a link that isn't working for you so we can try it? I
>  just went to the C-SPAN convention page and clicked on the Kerry
>  link.  Safari opened RealOnePlayer and it started playing the video
>  after a short delay.


AHA!  When I went to do that, I eventually found the url (it was an
rtsp:// hidden behind a javascript function call) and then I remembered
RCDefaultApp pref pane -- when I checked it, I found rtsp: was set to
QT.  I changed it to RealOnePlayer and that solved it.

I recognize that's what Greg Robbins suggested and I tried it through
the Check Media Types in the Help menu -- but somehow I didn't get it
right the first time.

Now it's working.

Thanks for your help!

joe