Trying to install Red Hat 4.1.2 (old, I know, but it's what my client 
has) on VirtualBox (VB).

Host, MacOS 10.7.3

I selected VB's "check for updates" and it appeared that nothing 
happened, except that the selection is now ghosted.  Does that mean "you 
have latest and you're not allowed to check again for a while" ?

In creating the VM, I kept the default settings whenever I wasn't sure. 
And if the "not optimal" warning appeared, I restored the default.

Any recommendations for specific settings on a MacBook with 4GB RAM,
100 GB free disk space?  (64MB Intel graphics, 2 GHZ Core 2 duo)

There were at least four things that appeared to be major errors, but
at least two did not even pause the install attempt.  One of them caused 
the VM to apparently freeze, but after many minutes it scrolled past 
some more text (not sure how much; wasn't watching) but then stopped 
with fatal error, <something> wouldn't sync.

Is there a way to scroll the VM window to look at the messages?

-- 
Wes Groleau

    “If it wasn't for that blasted back-hoe,
     a hundred of us could be working with shovels”
    “Yeah, and if it weren't for our shovels,
     a thousand of us could be working with spoons."

You should post your questions in http://virtualbox.org forum. ;)


On 4/28/2012 11:44 AM PT, Wes Groleau typed:

> Trying to install Red Hat 4.1.2 (old, I know, but it's what my client
> has) on VirtualBox (VB).
>
> Host, MacOS 10.7.3
>
> I selected VB's "check for updates" and it appeared that nothing
> happened, except that the selection is now ghosted. Does that mean "you
> have latest and you're not allowed to check again for a while" ?
>
> In creating the VM, I kept the default settings whenever I wasn't sure.
> And if the "not optimal" warning appeared, I restored the default.
>
> Any recommendations for specific settings on a MacBook with 4GB RAM,
> 100 GB free disk space? (64MB Intel graphics, 2 GHZ Core 2 duo)
>
> There were at least four things that appeared to be major errors, but
> at least two did not even pause the install attempt. One of them caused
> the VM to apparently freeze, but after many minutes it scrolled past
> some more text (not sure how much; wasn't watching) but then stopped
> with fatal error, <something> wouldn't sync.
>
> Is there a way to scroll the VM window to look at the messages?
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On 04-29-2012 08:46, Ant wrote:
> You should post your questions in http://virtualbox.org forum.

That's normally good advice.  But not wen that webserver is down.

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In article <N4CdnZ-kgtKmpQDSnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> You should post your questions in http://virtualbox.org forum. ;)

He would have, but the virtualbox.org website is down; he mentioned that in 
c.s.m.system and was directed here.

I found this message in Google's cached copy of one of the forum pages:

"This server will be down for maintenance from Friday April 27th, 5PM PDT til 
Monday April 30th, 8AM PDT."

This also explains why "check for updates" didn't do anything.


> On 4/28/2012 11:44 AM PT, Wes Groleau typed:
> 
> > Trying to install Red Hat 4.1.2 (old, I know, but it's what my client
> > has) on VirtualBox (VB).
> >
> > Host, MacOS 10.7.3
> >
> > I selected VB's "check for updates" and it appeared that nothing
> > happened, except that the selection is now ghosted. Does that mean "you
> > have latest and you're not allowed to check again for a while" ?
> >
> > In creating the VM, I kept the default settings whenever I wasn't sure.
> > And if the "not optimal" warning appeared, I restored the default.
> >
> > Any recommendations for specific settings on a MacBook with 4GB RAM,
> > 100 GB free disk space? (64MB Intel graphics, 2 GHZ Core 2 duo)
> >
> > There were at least four things that appeared to be major errors, but
> > at least two did not even pause the install attempt. One of them caused
> > the VM to apparently freeze, but after many minutes it scrolled past
> > some more text (not sure how much; wasn't watching) but then stopped
> > with fatal error, <something> wouldn't sync.
> >
> > Is there a way to scroll the VM window to look at the messages?

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:44:03 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote:

> Trying to install Red Hat 4.1.2 (old, I know, but it's what my client
> has) on VirtualBox (VB).
> 
> Host, MacOS 10.7.3
> 
> I selected VB's "check for updates" and it appeared that nothing
> happened, except that the selection is now ghosted.  Does that mean "you
> have latest and you're not allowed to check again for a while" ?

In my experience VBox checks for a new version when you first fire it up.
Although as someone else mentioned the site is supposed to be down for 
maintenance until tomorrow (evening for me), I successfully did a 
download of the latest version yesterday, and again did another download 
of the Extension Pack today.
 
> In creating the VM, I kept the default settings whenever I wasn't sure.
> And if the "not optimal" warning appeared, I restored the default.

If VBox sees a Linux server as the client, it typically doesn't suggest 
much in either RAM or disk space.  During the first installation of a 
client I tend to go for 800MB RAM and at least 20GB disk.  Using the 
default virtual disk type it won't use that 20GB on the host unless you 
fill it up on the client.

> Any recommendations for specific settings on a MacBook with 4GB RAM, 100
> GB free disk space?  (64MB Intel graphics, 2 GHZ Core 2 duo)
> 
> There were at least four things that appeared to be major errors, but at
> least two did not even pause the install attempt.  One of them caused
> the VM to apparently freeze, but after many minutes it scrolled past
> some more text (not sure how much; wasn't watching) but then stopped
> with fatal error, <something> wouldn't sync.

Tricky.  You might get somewhere by looking at the hardware officially 
supported by RH 4.1.2 - 4.1 goes back to 1997-ish from the quick search I 
did.  I'm pretty sure that VBox will by default offer a NIC and chipset 
(and what else?) that's a bit more modern.

> Is there a way to scroll the VM window to look at the messages?

I wish I knew an answer to that one.  I really must try VBox with remote 
access and see if that gives an answer.

-- 
Paul Sture

On 04-29-2012 17:01, Paul Sture wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:44:03 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote:
>> Is there a way to scroll the VM window to look at the messages?
>
> I wish I knew an answer to that one.  I really must try VBox with remote
> access and see if that gives an answer.

I used Pause VM and then took a screen shot.
Don't recall the error, but I saved the image.
Can't look now--ninety minutes past my bedtime.  :-)

-- 
Wes Groleau

    I've noticed lately that the paranoid fear of computers becoming
    intelligent and taking over the world has almost entirely disappeared
    from the common culture.  Near as I can tell, this coincides with
    the release of MS-DOS.
                                  — Larry DeLuca