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Help needed in connecting mac on router with other pc's

I'm having trouble getting access to the internet through the router.

I am getting a valid IP address from the router (airlink101?)
But it won't allow me to access the web.

I can login to the router's system utility (198.168.1.1).
The status reports that the router is not getting an ip address from
the ISP.
So naturally, I'm thinking that the problem is with the WAN.

But then something interesting was happening.
Other computers, (there are five other machines running either windows
xp or vista) who are all tied into the same router via switch, are
able to access the internet just fine! (including this machine that
I'm using to write this post.)

I couldn't believe it.  I checked their cables and they were all
leading to the same router.
The computers are all set for DHCP.

Here's the part that I really don't get.  On the pc's... their gateway
address is 198.168.1.254
????

Yet, I can't access 198.168.1.254 through the browser.

I don't get it.

Anyway.  I'm thinking it's a PC setup vs MAC setup because all the
pc's are working fine but my mac and my airport express (when
connected as a bridge) are not working.

Any advice?
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h.paulcho (2)
9/16/2008 9:18:04 PM
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In article 
<63a83310-4330-4db7-bfdb-3d8a6ff4e028@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
 h.paulcho@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm having trouble getting access to the internet through the router.
> 
> I am getting a valid IP address from the router (airlink101?)
> But it won't allow me to access the web.
> 
> I can login to the router's system utility (198.168.1.1).
> The status reports that the router is not getting an ip address from
> the ISP.
> So naturally, I'm thinking that the problem is with the WAN.
> 
> But then something interesting was happening.
> Other computers, (there are five other machines running either windows
> xp or vista) who are all tied into the same router via switch, are
> able to access the internet just fine! (including this machine that
> I'm using to write this post.)
> 
> I couldn't believe it.  I checked their cables and they were all
> leading to the same router.
> The computers are all set for DHCP.
> 
> Here's the part that I really don't get.  On the pc's... their gateway
> address is 198.168.1.254
> ????
> 
> Yet, I can't access 198.168.1.254 through the browser.
> 
> I don't get it.
> 
> Anyway.  I'm thinking it's a PC setup vs MAC setup because all the
> pc's are working fine but my mac and my airport express (when
> connected as a bridge) are not working.
> 
> Any advice?

If their gateway address is .254 and yours is .1, you're not using the 
same router as them.  You mention an Airport Express, how does it fit 
into the picture?  How is everything really wired together?

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
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barmar (6125)
9/16/2008 9:51:38 PM
On Sep 17, 6:51=A0am, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <63a83310-4330-4db7-bfdb-3d8a6ff4e...@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> =A0h.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'm having trouble getting access to the internet through the router.
>
> > I am getting a valid IP address from the router (airlink101?)
> > But it won't allow me to access the web.
>
> > I can login to the router's system utility (198.168.1.1).
> > The status reports that the router is not getting an ip address from
> > the ISP.
> > So naturally, I'm thinking that the problem is with the WAN.
>
> > But then something interesting was happening.
> > Other computers, (there are five other machines running either windows
> > xp or vista) who are all tied into the same router via switch, are
> > able to access the internet just fine! (including this machine that
> > I'm using to write this post.)
>
> > I couldn't believe it. =A0I checked their cables and they were all
> > leading to the same router.
> > The computers are all set for DHCP.
>
> > Here's the part that I really don't get. =A0On the pc's... their gatewa=
y
> > address is 198.168.1.254
> > ????
>
> > Yet, I can't access 198.168.1.254 through the browser.
>
> > I don't get it.
>
> > Anyway. =A0I'm thinking it's a PC setup vs MAC setup because all the
> > pc's are working fine but my mac and my airport express (when
> > connected as a bridge) are not working.
>
> > Any advice?
>
> If their gateway address is .254 and yours is .1, you're not using the
> same router as them. =A0You mention an Airport Express, how does it fit
> into the picture? =A0How is everything really wired together?
>
> --
> Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
> Arlington, MA
> *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
> *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***- Hid=
e quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Noted. And I think you're right.
This pc's computer's gateway is .1
So is my mac when I connect using the same ethernet.

There is another pc who has its gateway set to .254
The airport express is unplugged so it's not a part of the network
anymore.

I think there might be another device that I'm not aware of.
I just browsed to the .254 from the computer whose gateway is .1 and I
got a log in window.

So... even though this pc is getting a dhcp from .1  there is another
device .254 doing something...
I'm going to check up on this.  Will post results when I get back.
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h.paulcho (2)
9/16/2008 9:57:33 PM
In article 
<6457a061-4efa-4256-8f18-195f46622e2a@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
 h.paulcho@gmail.com wrote:

> Noted. And I think you're right.
> This pc's computer's gateway is .1
> So is my mac when I connect using the same ethernet.
> 
> There is another pc who has its gateway set to .254
> The airport express is unplugged so it's not a part of the network
> anymore.
> 
> I think there might be another device that I'm not aware of.
> I just browsed to the .254 from the computer whose gateway is .1 and I
> got a log in window.
> 
> So... even though this pc is getting a dhcp from .1  there is another
> device .254 doing something...
> I'm going to check up on this.  Will post results when I get back.

Set your Mac TCP/IP Router address to 192.168.1.254, and see if it
will allow you to reach the WAN. Just because 192.168.1.1 is doing
DHCP, Doesn't mean that it is also the Gateway Router to the WAN.
These can be done in separate boxes. LIkely the Network Admin
has something else happening and you really need to talk to that guy.
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9/18/2008 8:11:50 PM
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I wonder how the Windows users would like my (ab)normal Microsoft-free world: My business: all Mac, no PCs. My dentist, family physician and urologist are all Mac. No PCs. Went to Sir Speedy today for more bus. cards and some binding: all Mac (no surprise there). My daughter's three new college room mates have emailed her. Two have PowerBooks and one has an eMac. (She has a G5 iMac.) I never even see a PC unless I am at the public library or a store using a Windows POS unit. It never was intentional. I don't scout a place to see what frickin' computer they use. Just happened. Kind of weird. -- Arf! Old CSMAer Nice! At work I'm stuck on Windows, plus at home my roommate and girlfrield both use Windows. Good thing is I have my ibook at work and both my roommate and gf are getting Macs after their Dell's are paid off. They use Mac's at work and see how my PowerMac at home works while their PeeCee's hose daily. They hate Windows now :) So i'm getting there :) Alex "OldCSMAer" <olddog@kennelsINVALID.com> wrote in message news:olddog-F4AC87.15141003082005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com... >I wonder how the Windows users would like my (ab)normal Microsoft-free > world: > > My business: all Mac, no PCs. My dentist, family physician and > urologist are all Mac. No PCs. > > Went to Sir Speedy today for more bus. cards and some binding: all Mac > (no surprise there). > > My dau...

The internet is built on PC's not mac's Why?
Why is the Internet built on PC's and not the great Mac. 1 Because a mac cant do a job of a server 2 No mac server OS 3 mac networking has a bad history 1. Yes it can. No, an Mac Mini wouldn't do a good job, but I imagine that one of these is more than adequate: http://www.apple.com/xserve/ 2. Yes. http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/ 3. Windows security, on the other hand, has an excellent history. Yet most servers are Windows boxes. I do have to say that Windows Server is actually really nice to use though, and is very stable. Plus nothing beats opening Internet Explorer for the first time and being greeted by a warning message 'This program is a known security problem and is disabled by default. Would you like to enable it?' Man, stop trolling. You're making yourself look dumb. MartinKess@gmail.com wrote: > 1. Yes it can. No, an Mac Mini wouldn't do a good job, but I imagine > that one of these is more than adequate: http://www.apple.com/xserve/ > 2. Yes. http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/ > 3. Windows security, on the other hand, has an excellent history. Yet > most servers are Windows boxes. Most servers are some Unix-like. This is particularly true for webservers, where more than half run Apache on GNU/Linux. -- "There is nothing I understand." - Shit (1) All OS X machines have Apache and can run web servers. (1a) They can easily serve files to Windows boxes. (1b) They run a UNIX (like) OS so they can be u...

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