My brother wants to switch to Mac and wants to try OS X. Problem is that he 
has "modest" means with which to do so. 

He's looking for an old G3 to be able to accomplish this. Free would be good, 
cheap may (or may not) be do-able for him. 

Any generous souls have an unused G3 around?

Thanks (for him),
-- 
Dave C
dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com

In article <0001HW.BB912FAC001517E2F0080600@news.individual.net>,
 DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:

> My brother wants to switch to Mac and wants to try OS X. Problem is that he 
> has "modest" means with which to do so. 
> 
> He's looking for an old G3 to be able to accomplish this. Free would be good, 
> cheap may (or may not) be do-able for him. 
> 
> Any generous souls have an unused G3 around?

Hey, anyone got a spare Mercedes they ain't using? I could use one.

-- 
Enough <enough@idontcare.com>

In article <0001HW.BB912FAC001517E2F0080600@news.individual.net>,
 DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:

> My brother wants to switch to Mac and wants to try OS X. Problem is that he 
> has "modest" means with which to do so. 
> 
> He's looking for an old G3 to be able to accomplish this. Free would be good, 
> cheap may (or may not) be do-able for him. 
> 
> Any generous souls have an unused G3 around?

   hey, I need a Paul Reed Smith guitar, a Soldano SLO and a POD XT Pro 
if anyone is in a generous mood :)

   seriously, though, if he's looking at cheap, I'd suggest eBay or 
Goodwill. I'm noticing a lot of G3 All-In-Ones (AKA Chia Mac) on eBay 
recently....

-- 
Dan Dreibelbis, Guitar Nerd - Better Living Through Home Recording
Now On Vitaminic
http://stage.vitaminic.com/main/dan_dreibelbis

In comp.sys.mac.misc DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:
> My brother wants to switch to Mac and wants to try OS X. Problem is that he 
> has "modest" means with which to do so. 

> He's looking for an old G3 to be able to accomplish this. Free would be good, 
> cheap may (or may not) be do-able for him. 

Even if I had a used G3 to give you for free, I suspect the hassle of
packing and sending it to you would simply be too much... it would probably
cost me on the order of $50 for postage.

I would suggest looking on eBay, or see if you have local forsale newsgroups
where people buy/sell/give away computer stuff (i.e. tor.forsale.computing)

Hope you find what you need..

In article <dreibel-214E4A.09194820092003@nr-tor02.bellnexxia.net>,
Daniel Dreibelbis <dreibel@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> In article <0001HW.BB912FAC001517E2F0080600@news.individual.net>,
>  DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:
> 
> > My brother wants to switch to Mac and wants to try OS X. Problem is that he 
> > has "modest" means with which to do so. 
> > 
> > He's looking for an old G3 to be able to accomplish this. Free would be
> > good, 
> > cheap may (or may not) be do-able for him. 
> > 
> > Any generous souls have an unused G3 around?
> 
>    hey, I need a Paul Reed Smith guitar, a Soldano SLO and a POD XT Pro 
> if anyone is in a generous mood :)
> 
>    seriously, though, if he's looking at cheap, I'd suggest eBay or 
> Goodwill. I'm noticing a lot of G3 All-In-Ones (AKA Chia Mac) on eBay 
> recently....

Some G3 AIO's won't run OSX, I know I've got one of those.  I use it
for my local backup of my G4 over the network, to a jaz drive hooked to
it. (I'm too cheap to buy a scsi card for the G4 <G>)

Lloyd

DaveC wrote:
> My brother wants to switch to Mac and wants to try OS X. Problem is
> that he has "modest" means with which to do so.
>
> He's looking for an old G3 to be able to accomplish this. Free would
> be good, cheap may (or may not) be do-able for him.
>
> Any generous souls have an unused G3 around?
>
> Thanks (for him),

Why not just look for something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2754239045&category=14912

In article <200920030859394850%lloydparsons@mac.com>,
 Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:

> >    seriously, though, if he's looking at cheap, I'd suggest eBay or 
> > Goodwill. I'm noticing a lot of G3 All-In-Ones (AKA Chia Mac) on eBay 
> > recently....
> 
> Some G3 AIO's won't run OSX, I know I've got one of those.  I use it
> for my local backup of my G4 over the network, to a jaz drive hooked to
> it. (I'm too cheap to buy a scsi card for the G4 <G>)

   try using XPostFacto on the Chia Mac, Ryan designed it so that even 
those G3s that can't run OS X normally should boot with that (like those 
original G3 Powerbooks...)

   still, seriously cool what you did.

-- 
Dan Dreibelbis, Guitar Nerd - Better Living Through Home Recording
Now On Vitaminic
http://stage.vitaminic.com/main/dan_dreibelbis

In article <dreibel-214E4A.09194820092003@nr-tor02.bellnexxia.net>,
 Daniel Dreibelbis <dreibel@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> In article <0001HW.BB912FAC001517E2F0080600@news.individual.net>,
>  DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:
> 
> > My brother wants to switch to Mac and wants to try OS X. Problem is that he 
> > has "modest" means with which to do so. 
> > 
> > He's looking for an old G3 to be able to accomplish this. Free would be 
> > good, 
> > cheap may (or may not) be do-able for him. 
> > 
> > Any generous souls have an unused G3 around?
> 
>    hey, I need a Paul Reed Smith guitar, a Soldano SLO and a POD XT Pro 
> if anyone is in a generous mood :)
> 
>    seriously, though, if he's looking at cheap, I'd suggest eBay or 
> Goodwill. I'm noticing a lot of G3 All-In-Ones (AKA Chia Mac) on eBay 
> recently....


I've got the Paul Reed Smith... I now need a Benedetto archtop jazzbox. 
Any takers... uh... givers?

Steve

In article <dreibel-AF2B91.11430720092003@nr-tor02.bellnexxia.net>,
Daniel Dreibelbis <dreibel@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> In article <200920030859394850%lloydparsons@mac.com>,
>  Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> > >    seriously, though, if he's looking at cheap, I'd suggest eBay or 
> > > Goodwill. I'm noticing a lot of G3 All-In-Ones (AKA Chia Mac) on eBay 
> > > recently....
> > 
> > Some G3 AIO's won't run OSX, I know I've got one of those.  I use it
> > for my local backup of my G4 over the network, to a jaz drive hooked to
> > it. (I'm too cheap to buy a scsi card for the G4 <G>)
> 
>    try using XPostFacto on the Chia Mac, Ryan designed it so that even 
> those G3s that can't run OS X normally should boot with that (like those 
> original G3 Powerbooks...)
> 
>    still, seriously cool what you did.

Thanks.

And thanks for reminding me about XPostFacto, I had completely forgot
that it existed.

I got about a half dozen of these things and 3 Apple Lasers from a
school that insisted on moving from Apple to PC.  They tried to sell
them, but no one knew enough about them, so they sat unsold.  I gave
them $100 for the lot.

I checked them all out and gave all but one of the cpu's and one of the
laser's to some kids that I knew couldn't afford them.  I put modems in
all those I gave away so they could have internet access.  Then I got
them free internet access from one of the local providers.

The only thing, other than loading OSX on them, that I couldn't get to
work is shared printing.  I knew that the laser wouldn't work shared
with OSX because there is no driver for that old laser, but I had hoped
my USB HP895 ink squirter would be able to be shared.  Never could get
it to work though.

Lloyd

In article <4QXab.13852$Od.529456@twister.tampabay.rr.com>,
 Enough <enough@idontcare.com> wrote:

> In article <0001HW.BB912FAC001517E2F0080600@news.individual.net>,
>  DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:
> 
> > My brother wants to switch to Mac and wants to try OS X. Problem is that he 
> > has "modest" means with which to do so. 
> > 
> > He's looking for an old G3 to be able to accomplish this. Free would be 
> > good, 
> > cheap may (or may not) be do-able for him. 
> > 
> > Any generous souls have an unused G3 around?
> 
> Hey, anyone got a spare Mercedes they ain't using? I could use one.

Or a spare Lamborghini Countach or perhaps a Miura S? I'll even accept 
an old dusty Ferrari Berlinetta Lusso, or maybe a Maserati Sebring, or a 
Tipo 61 "Birdcage" or.........

Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> writes:

[...]

> The only thing, other than loading OSX on them, that I couldn't get
> to work is shared printing.  I knew that the laser wouldn't work
> shared with OSX because there is no driver for that old laser, but I
> had hoped my USB HP895 ink squirter would be able to be shared.
> Never could get it to work though.

If you are still in contact with your grantees,  you may be able to
get them to upgrade to OSX (10.2) with Ex Post Facto (already
mentioned).  10.2 buys you USB printer-sharing,  at least among
Macs.

Also, that has to be a very, very old laser printer if OSX can't drive
it *at all*.  Even if it is something as old as an LS 4/600, you can
buy a ethertalk/localtalk (e.g. "Asantetalk") bridge along with a
router (or a hub) and share the laser-printer on a network.  If you
don't buy the ethertalk/localtalk bridge,  you will not be able to
use *some* laser printers with OSX,  even when directly connected.

I know that buying the bridge would require an additional outlay of
funds on the part of someone, but I am always of the opinion that
spending a little extra to have something actually work beats having
an additional paper-weight around.

-- 
Edward Dodge

/Confabulation Consulting/

In article <m1fzirs0dn.fsf@g3.com>, Edward Dodge <someone@g3.com> wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> writes:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > The only thing, other than loading OSX on them, that I couldn't get
> > to work is shared printing.  I knew that the laser wouldn't work
> > shared with OSX because there is no driver for that old laser, but I
> > had hoped my USB HP895 ink squirter would be able to be shared.
> > Never could get it to work though.
> 
> If you are still in contact with your grantees,  you may be able to
> get them to upgrade to OSX (10.2) with Ex Post Facto (already
> mentioned).  10.2 buys you USB printer-sharing,  at least among
> Macs.

I see them now and then, but they use them for getting on the internet
and playing some games.  None of them decided to use them for what I
had intended, which was schoolwork.  But I had no strings attached in
the gift, so its their loss.

I guess it is part of what makes many poor stay that way, huh?

> 
> Also, that has to be a very, very old laser printer if OSX can't drive
> it *at all*.  Even if it is something as old as an LS 4/600, you can
> buy a ethertalk/localtalk (e.g. "Asantetalk") bridge along with a
> router (or a hub) and share the laser-printer on a network.  If you
> don't buy the ethertalk/localtalk bridge,  you will not be able to
> use *some* laser printers with OSX,  even when directly connected.
> 
It is an Apple Personal LaserWriter and it IS very old!  It plugs in
directly to the AIO that has no addon cards of any sort.  I have been
told that there are NO drivers for it in OSX at all.


> I know that buying the bridge would require an additional outlay of
> funds on the part of someone, but I am always of the opinion that
> spending a little extra to have something actually work beats having
> an additional paper-weight around.

Well, the G3 isn't exactly a paperweight, but it sure would be a heavy
one if it was.  You could pop a hernia carrying this thing around!  <G>

I don't use it often, as I said its mostly used for making a backup of
my G4 via network to the attached SCSI Jaz drive.

But then, I guess I could hook that Jaz drive up to my PM6500!  Its
even older!  I got it and a Performa at a yard sale for $5 total!  Both
work, but the Performa is still trying to boot up from when I turned it
on a month ago! <G>

I use them all (well not the Performa (75Mhz)) for one thing or another
now and then.  Given the memory footprint of the AIO, I don't think I
would put OSX on it anyway and the PM6500 won't run it at all.

But thanks for the pointers and suggestions, maybe someone else has
gained some knowledge they can use.

Lloyd

In article <200920031310016165%lloydparsons@mac.com>,
 Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:

> And thanks for reminding me about XPostFacto, I had completely forgot
> that it existed.

   No problem.

   Here's where to find it, by the way - plus you'll also get to see a 
screenshot of the upcoming version 3 release, which will do some very 
interesting things like Firewire booting and support for OS X 10.3 
Panther:

http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/

   the program's basically free, but for support OWC has a $10 fee to 
get into that area - money well worth it, though. I've been running 
Jaguar on my UMAX J700 for about a year now, and it's incredible how 
stable it is....

-- 
Dan Dreibelbis, Guitar Nerd - Better Living Through Home Recording
Now On Vitaminic
http://stage.vitaminic.com/main/dan_dreibelbis

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In article <200920031537276952%lloydparsons@mac.com>,
 Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote:

> In article <m1fzirs0dn.fsf@g3.com>, Edward Dodge <someone@g3.com> wrote:
> 
> > Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons@mac.com> writes:
> > 
> > [...]

[snip]
> > 
> > Also, that has to be a very, very old laser printer if OSX can't drive
> > it *at all*.  Even if it is something as old as an LS 4/600, you can
> > buy a ethertalk/localtalk (e.g. "Asantetalk") bridge along with a
> > router (or a hub) and share the laser-printer on a network.  If you
> > don't buy the ethertalk/localtalk bridge,  you will not be able to
> > use *some* laser printers with OSX,  even when directly connected.
> > 
> It is an Apple Personal LaserWriter and it IS very old!  It plugs in
> directly to the AIO that has no addon cards of any sort.  I have been
> told that there are NO drivers for it in OSX at all.
> 
No PostScript Level 2, therefore no support in OS X. IIRC, even 
GIMP-Print (which has CUPS drivers for LOTS of printers) can't run them, 
the problem is more fundamental. It's irrelevant in most cases, as far 
better printers are available free/rediculously cheaply if you hunt 
around. Heck, I had enough trouble trying to GIVE away LW II's and HP LJ 
IIP's (both of which OS X will drive, IIRC), never mind selling them.

Steve Mackay wrote:

> Why not just look for something like this?
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2754239045&category=14912

Wow, that looks like a nice catch! Maybe a new video card though...

Oliver

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:18:33 -0700, George Graves wrote
(in message <gmgraves-8E123E.12183120092003@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>):

> Or a spare Lamborghini Countach or perhaps a Miura S? I'll even accept 
> an old dusty Ferrari Berlinetta Lusso, or maybe a Maserati Sebring, or a 
> Tipo 61 "Birdcage" or.........

There are some people in such a (wonderful) situation as to have these 
sitting around, I'm sure. And if they can give away such items without 
causing the slightest dent in their portfolio, why not?

But I think the chances of someone having an old $100 G3 sitting around 
gathering dust is more likely...
-- 
Dave C
dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com

In article <0001HW.BB931E86001BC862F0080600@news.individual.net>,
 DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:

> But I think the chances of someone having an old $100 G3 sitting around 
> gathering dust is more likely...

Yes, but why would he give it to YOU? You're too fuckin' cheap (what's 
$100, give me a break) to BUY an old G3 for your own brother!

-- 
Enough <enough@idontcare.com>

In article <0001HW.BB931E86001BC862F0080600@news.individual.net>,
 DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:18:33 -0700, George Graves wrote
> (in message <gmgraves-8E123E.12183120092003@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>):
> 
> > Or a spare Lamborghini Countach or perhaps a Miura S? I'll even accept 
> > an old dusty Ferrari Berlinetta Lusso, or maybe a Maserati Sebring, or a 
> > Tipo 61 "Birdcage" or.........
> 
> There are some people in such a (wonderful) situation as to have these 
> sitting around, I'm sure. And if they can give away such items without 
> causing the slightest dent in their portfolio, why not?
> 
> But I think the chances of someone having an old $100 G3 sitting around 
> gathering dust is more likely...

My point is that as long as one is begging for something free, one might 
as well beg "big time." Most of us have to work for what we have and 
part with coin-of-the-realm to get it. Since all the cars I mentioned 
are worth -way north- of US$100K in any condition, I'd say the chances 
of even a very rich man giving one away are somewhere between zero and 
none at all. In fact, they are almost the same as someone giving away a 
G3.

George Graves (gmgraves@pacbell.net) writes:
> In article <0001HW.BB931E86001BC862F0080600@news.individual.net>,
>  DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:18:33 -0700, George Graves wrote
>> (in message <gmgraves-8E123E.12183120092003@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>):
>> 
>> > Or a spare Lamborghini Countach or perhaps a Miura S? I'll even accept 
>> > an old dusty Ferrari Berlinetta Lusso, or maybe a Maserati Sebring, or a 
>> > Tipo 61 "Birdcage" or.........
>> 
>> There are some people in such a (wonderful) situation as to have these 
>> sitting around, I'm sure. And if they can give away such items without 
>> causing the slightest dent in their portfolio, why not?
>> 
>> But I think the chances of someone having an old $100 G3 sitting around 
>> gathering dust is more likely...
> 
> My point is that as long as one is begging for something free, one might 
> as well beg "big time." Most of us have to work for what we have and 
> part with coin-of-the-realm to get it. Since all the cars I mentioned 
> are worth -way north- of US$100K in any condition, I'd say the chances 
> of even a very rich man giving one away are somewhere between zero and 
> none at all. In fact, they are almost the same as someone giving away a 
> G3.

I think the error of the original poster is that he asked for a specific
computer.  Someone asking for an old computer that might otherwise
be thrown out seems reasonable.  They are just looking for something that has
no value to someone else.  But once someone starts begging for something
specific, then they've lost the bit about how "beggars can't be choosers".

There are plenty of computers that could be available free.  I find them in
the garbage from time to time.  I've been given a few.  I bought 6100 PowerMac
last year at a garage sale, and its $10 price was practically giveaway (and
since it had 64megs of RAM inside, it was a steal).  I see them at church
and school rummage sales, and community group garage sales.  Yes, the end
user has to pay for them, but someone has donated them to the group 
in the first place.  I got a Powerbook 1400C two weeks ago for forty dollars,
at an auction done by a Meals on Wheels program.

With that much available, there are plenty of computers for free or
nominal amounts, and plenty of them are acceptable for the things
the average person might want to use them for.

When someone asks for something specific, for free, they just come
across as cheap.  They aren't looking for a solution, they are looking
for something specific without paying any money.

   Michael

"Enough" <enough@idontcare.com> wrote in message
news:snmbb.21008$Od.806272@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> In article <0001HW.BB931E86001BC862F0080600@news.individual.net>,
>  DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:
>
> > But I think the chances of someone having an old $100 G3 sitting around
> > gathering dust is more likely...
>
> Yes, but why would he give it to YOU?
> You're too fuckin' cheap (what's $100, give me a break)
harsh - you've no idea how much a $100 is to him... though I do agree its
pretty audacious asking for something that recent and that specific. Perhaps
something along the lines of "Hi - I haven't really got much money but my
bro really wud like to get started on a mac? Does anyone out there have
something gathering dust they'd like to sell/get rid of? Many thanks" Then
he'd have been flooded with replies offering him every mac under the sun
(perhaps even a G3) and the beggar could indeed have been a chooser.

> to BUY an old G3 for your own brother!
>
> -- 
> Enough <enough@idontcare.com>

Oh and I've just noticed who I'm replying to here so no doubt I will either
get slated by said person, or slated by everyone else for replying to him.
In any case said person will not give a toss what I think...

matt

ps if a hundred dollars is that little to you perhaps you'd like to pay for
a G3 for him?!

-- 
matthew fullerton
LC475/MacOS 7.5.5 and LCIII/System 7.1
This message was posted using Outlook Express 6 (sorry)
greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com is a real address, but don't expect anything
(SPAM or otherwise) to get read



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In article <bklabl$30p$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
 "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:

> ps if a hundred dollars is that little to you perhaps you'd like to pay for
> a G3 for him?!

No, I use it for dinner at Rules in December. Unless YOU'RE buying!

-- 
Enough <enough@idontcare.com>

"Enough" <enough@idontcare.com> wrote in message
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> In article <bklabl$30p$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
>  "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ps if a hundred dollars is that little to you perhaps you'd like to pay
for
> > a G3 for him?!
>
> No, I use it for dinner at Rules in December. Unless YOU'RE buying!

Rules??? That an american thing?

matt

>
> -- 
> Enough <enough@idontcare.com>


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In article <bknnet$bm3$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
 "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Rules??? That an american thing?
> 
> matt

is he an american?

"Mark Haase" <mehaase@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> In article <bknnet$bm3$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
>  "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Rules??? That an american thing?
> >
> > matt
>
> is he an american?

no idea - question still stands...

matt



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In article <bknnet$bm3$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
 "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Enough" <enough@idontcare.com> wrote in message
> news:GTFbb.25096$Od.1000390@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> > In article <bklabl$30p$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
> >  "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ps if a hundred dollars is that little to you perhaps you'd like to pay
> for
> > > a G3 for him?!
> >
> > No, I use it for dinner at Rules in December. Unless YOU'RE buying!
> 
> Rules??? That an american thing?
> 

Tis a terrible thing where a wanker limey doesn't know the oldest 
restaurant in London.

You can return to your buggery now.

-- 
Enough <enough@idontcare.com>

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:19:40 +0100, Enough wrote
(in message <wTWbb.6367$Ci5.136493@twister.tampabay.rr.com>):

> In article <bknnet$bm3$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
>  "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> "Enough" <enough@idontcare.com> wrote in message
>> news:GTFbb.25096$Od.1000390@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
>>> In article <bklabl$30p$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
>>> "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ps if a hundred dollars is that little to you perhaps you'd like to pay
>> for
>>>> a G3 for him?!
>>> 
>>> No, I use it for dinner at Rules in December. Unless YOU'RE buying!
>> 
>> Rules??? That an american thing?
>> 
> 
> Tis a terrible thing where a wanker limey doesn't know the oldest 
> restaurant in London.
> 
> You can return to your buggery now.
> 
> 

Your name wouldn't happen to be Kaneel now would it?

http://kaneel.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/worldrecord.php

In article <0001HW.BB963E4D0018F9B2F0488600@news.cis.dfn.de>,
 Andy Mulhearn <unxmully@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:19:40 +0100, Enough wrote
> (in message <wTWbb.6367$Ci5.136493@twister.tampabay.rr.com>):
> 
> > In article <bknnet$bm3$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
> >  "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> "Enough" <enough@idontcare.com> wrote in message
> >> news:GTFbb.25096$Od.1000390@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>> In article <bklabl$30p$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
> >>> "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> ps if a hundred dollars is that little to you perhaps you'd like to pay
> >> for
> >>>> a G3 for him?!
> >>> 
> >>> No, I use it for dinner at Rules in December. Unless YOU'RE buying!
> >> 
> >> Rules??? That an american thing?
> >> 
> > 
> > Tis a terrible thing where a wanker limey doesn't know the oldest 
> > restaurant in London.
> > 
> > You can return to your buggery now.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Your name wouldn't happen to be Kaneel now would it?

Another buggerer joins the group!

-- 
Enough <enough@idontcare.com>

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:43:52 +0100, Enough wrote
(in message <sD%bb.1348$Of2.143608@twister.tampabay.rr.com>):

> In article <0001HW.BB963E4D0018F9B2F0488600@news.cis.dfn.de>,
>  Andy Mulhearn <unxmully@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:19:40 +0100, Enough wrote
>> (in message <wTWbb.6367$Ci5.136493@twister.tampabay.rr.com>):
>> 
>>> In article <bknnet$bm3$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
>>> "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> "Enough" <enough@idontcare.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:GTFbb.25096$Od.1000390@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>>> In article <bklabl$30p$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
>>>>> "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ps if a hundred dollars is that little to you perhaps you'd like to pay
>>>> for
>>>>>> a G3 for him?!
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, I use it for dinner at Rules in December. Unless YOU'RE buying!
>>>> 
>>>> Rules??? That an american thing?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tis a terrible thing where a wanker limey doesn't know the oldest 
>>> restaurant in London.
>>> 
>>> You can return to your buggery now.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Your name wouldn't happen to be Kaneel now would it?
> 
> Another buggerer joins the group!
> 
> 

Been here for ages, you're just too dumb to realise. Entertaining though, a 
bit like the clap.

In article <0001HW.BB964A5F001A7345F0488600@news.cis.dfn.de>,
 Andy Mulhearn <unxmully@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:43:52 +0100, Enough wrote
> (in message <sD%bb.1348$Of2.143608@twister.tampabay.rr.com>):
> 
> > In article <0001HW.BB963E4D0018F9B2F0488600@news.cis.dfn.de>,
> >  Andy Mulhearn <unxmully@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:19:40 +0100, Enough wrote
> >> (in message <wTWbb.6367$Ci5.136493@twister.tampabay.rr.com>):
> >> 
> >>> In article <bknnet$bm3$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
> >>> "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> "Enough" <enough@idontcare.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:GTFbb.25096$Od.1000390@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>>>> In article <bklabl$30p$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
> >>>>> "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> ps if a hundred dollars is that little to you perhaps you'd like to pay
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> a G3 for him?!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> No, I use it for dinner at Rules in December. Unless YOU'RE buying!
> >>>> 
> >>>> Rules??? That an american thing?
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Tis a terrible thing where a wanker limey doesn't know the oldest 
> >>> restaurant in London.
> >>> 
> >>> You can return to your buggery now.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Your name wouldn't happen to be Kaneel now would it?
> > 
> > Another buggerer joins the group!
> > 
> > 
> 
> Been here for ages, you're just too dumb to realise. Entertaining though, a 
> bit like the clap.
> 

Which I'm NOT surprised you would be familiar with. Get it from your mum?

-- 
Enough <enough@idontcare.com>

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:08:51 +0100, Enough wrote
(in message <T_%bb.1354$Of2.144958@twister.tampabay.rr.com>):

> In article <0001HW.BB964A5F001A7345F0488600@news.cis.dfn.de>,
>  Andy Mulhearn <unxmully@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
> 
[snipped]

>>>> Your name wouldn't happen to be Kaneel now would it?
>>> 
>>> Another buggerer joins the group!
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Been here for ages, you're just too dumb to realise. Entertaining though, 
>> a 
>> bit like the clap.
>> 
> 
> Which I'm NOT surprised you would be familiar with. Get it from your mum?
> 
> 

No, yours actually.

In article <0001HW.BB964B6E001AB2CAF0488600@news.cis.dfn.de>,
 Andy Mulhearn <unxmully@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:08:51 +0100, Enough wrote
> (in message <T_%bb.1354$Of2.144958@twister.tampabay.rr.com>):
> 
> > In article <0001HW.BB964A5F001A7345F0488600@news.cis.dfn.de>,
> >  Andy Mulhearn <unxmully@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> [snipped]
> 
> >>>> Your name wouldn't happen to be Kaneel now would it?
> >>> 
> >>> Another buggerer joins the group!
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Been here for ages, you're just too dumb to realise. Entertaining though, 
> >> a 
> >> bit like the clap.
> >> 
> > 
> > Which I'm NOT surprised you would be familiar with. Get it from your mum?
> > 
> > 
> 
> No, yours actually.
> 

Really? Necrophiliac? No wonder that the sun has set on the British 
Empire!

-- 
Enough <enough@idontcare.com>

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:33:05 +0100, Enough wrote
(in message <Bl0cb.1459$Of2.147545@twister.tampabay.rr.com>):

> In article <0001HW.BB964B6E001AB2CAF0488600@news.cis.dfn.de>,
>  Andy Mulhearn <unxmully@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:08:51 +0100, Enough wrote
>> (in message <T_%bb.1354$Of2.144958@twister.tampabay.rr.com>):
>> 
>>> In article <0001HW.BB964A5F001A7345F0488600@news.cis.dfn.de>,
>>> Andy Mulhearn <unxmully@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>> [snipped]
>> 
>>>>>> Your name wouldn't happen to be Kaneel now would it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another buggerer joins the group!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Been here for ages, you're just too dumb to realise. Entertaining 
>>>> though, 
>>>> a 
>>>> bit like the clap.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Which I'm NOT surprised you would be familiar with. Get it from your mum?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> No, yours actually.
>> 
> 
> Really? Necrophiliac? No wonder that the sun has set on the British 
> Empire!
> 

She told me you'd say that. It's a terrible shame when someone denies their 
own mother. 

"Enough" <enough@idontcare.com> wrote in message
news:wTWbb.6367$Ci5.136493@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> In article <bknnet$bm3$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
>  "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Enough" <enough@idontcare.com> wrote in message
> > news:GTFbb.25096$Od.1000390@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> > > In article <bklabl$30p$1@pump1.york.ac.uk>,
> > >  "matt" <greatbigblackhole@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ps if a hundred dollars is that little to you perhaps you'd like to
pay
> > for
> > > > a G3 for him?!
> > >
> > > No, I use it for dinner at Rules in December. Unless YOU'RE buying!
> >
> > Rules??? That an american thing?
> >
>
> Tis a terrible thing where a wanker limey doesn't know the oldest
> restaurant in London.

my sincerest apologies. I'm afraid I don't frequent posh London restaurants

matt


>
> You can return to your buggery now.
>
> -- 
> Enough <enough@idontcare.com>


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