Stephen Buggie (505) 863-2390 Psychology Department Univ. of New Mexico, Gallup February 15, 2006 200 College Road Gallup NM 87301 buggie@unm.edu NEED RESCUE DISK! MAC SE -- BOMB System Error / Address Error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Macintosh experts, My Mac SE crashes at power-up. I gives the bell-chime, then it proceeds though the launch sequence. After showing two extension-icons, it crashes. Then a dialogue-box shows the BOMB icon with the message, SORRY, A SYSTEM ERROR HAS OCCURRED --- ADDRESS ERROR It never reaches the desktop; this crash occurs every time. The Mac SE has a 330 meg internal hard drive, System 6.x.x, and a 1.4 meg internal 3.5 floppy drive. There is a SCSI port but no internal CD reader. The b/w screen is extremely sharp in its focus. The computer worked fine until about a year ago, when I stupidly put a file in the wrong folder. It has crashed consistently ever since! It has an assortment of software on the hard drive, but I have backups of everything and am willing to reformat the entire hard drive if necessary to get the computer working again! If I can resurrect the computer, I hope to upgrade the system to System 7.0 or 7.1 . DONE SO FAR: Yes, I have launched it with shift-key down, to turn off the extensions, but it always crashes Ive also tried various rescue disks but most are not recognized when in the floppy drive. Best luck was with NORTON UTILITIES APPLICATION ! FLOPPY DISK. This disk loads at power-up, and I was able to use SPEED DISK to optimize the hard drive. None of the other functions of this Norton disk could be activated. It has a companion disk, Norton Utilities Application 2 disk, but at power-up, the hard drive ignores Norton #2, spinning up the hard drive until the port of inevitable crash. I have Ted Landaus (1997) book, SAD MACS, BOMBS, AND OTHER DISASTERS. The book describes many types of System Errors, but there is no mention of address errors. WHAT ELSE CAN I DO???? Im willing to erase the hard drive if necessary. System 7.1 floppies are on their way from someone. Does anyone of a rescue disk that can fix this so-called system error / address error? I will pay postage costs if anyone can send me a rescue disk. Please send advice. Please copy your reply to my e-mail address buggie@unm.edu . Thanks, Steve Buggie, UNM-Gallup, 200 College Road, Gallup NM 87301 Home phone (505) 863-7504 Steve Buggie | programmer/deejay | Psychology Professor | TROPICAL REGGAE SHOW| Univ. of New Mexico, Gallup | 10pm to 12pm Friday | 200 College Rd. | KGLP-FM 91.7 MHz | Gallup, NM 87301 | Gallup Public Radio | **=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=** ** buggie@unm.edu phone: (505) 863-7504 or 863-2390 ** ** Music on this show is "roots reggae" only; No rap, No ** ** hip-hop. Dancehall style will be aired only if it has a ** ** clear reggae beat. For KGLP programming information, check ** ** our website: www.kglp.org Promotional CDs should be ** ** mailed to: Tropical Reggae, KGLP-FM, Gallup Public Radio, ** ** 200 College Road, Gallup NM 87301 ** ** Hear the show in real time! Web-streamed sound at kglp.org ** **=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=**
Stephen E Buggie wrote: > Stephen Buggie (505) 863-2390 > Psychology Department > Univ. of New Mexico, Gallup February 15, 2006 > 200 College Road > Gallup NM 87301 buggie@unm.edu > > NEED RESCUE DISK! MAC SE -- BOMB System Error / Address Error > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Dear Macintosh experts, > > My Mac SE crashes at power-up. I gives the bell-chime, then it proceeds > though the launch sequence. After showing two extension-icons, it crashes. > Then a dialogue-box shows the BOMB icon with the message, SORRY, A SYSTEM > ERROR HAS OCCURRED --- ADDRESS ERROR It never reaches the desktop; this > crash occurs every time. > > The Mac SE has a 330 meg internal hard drive, System 6.x.x, and a 1.4 meg > internal 3.5 floppy drive. There is a SCSI port but no internal CD reader. > The b/w screen is extremely sharp in its focus. The computer worked fine > until about a year ago, when I stupidly put a file in the wrong folder. It > has crashed consistently ever since! It has an assortment of software on > the hard drive, but I have backups of everything and am willing to > reformat the entire hard drive if necessary to get the computer working > again! If I can resurrect the computer, I hope to upgrade the system to > System 7.0 or 7.1 . > > DONE SO FAR: Yes, I have launched it with shift-key down, to turn off the > extensions, but it always crashes Ive also tried various rescue disks but > most are not recognized when in the floppy drive. Best luck was with > NORTON UTILITIES APPLICATION ! FLOPPY DISK. This disk loads at power-up, > and I was able to use SPEED DISK to optimize the hard drive. None of the > other functions of this Norton disk could be activated. It has a companion > disk, Norton Utilities Application 2 disk, but at power-up, the hard drive > ignores Norton #2, spinning up the hard drive until the port of inevitable > crash. > > I have Ted Landaus (1997) book, SAD MACS, BOMBS, AND OTHER > DISASTERS. The book describes many types of System Errors, but there is no > mention of address errors. > > WHAT ELSE CAN I DO???? Im willing to erase the hard drive if > necessary. System 7.1 floppies are on their way from someone. Does anyone > of a rescue disk that can fix this so-called system error / address > error? I will pay postage costs if anyone can send me a rescue disk. > > Please send advice. Please copy your reply to my e-mail address > buggie@unm.edu . Thanks, Steve Buggie, UNM-Gallup, 200 College Road, > Gallup NM 87301 > Home phone (505) 863-7504 > > > Steve Buggie | programmer/deejay | > Psychology Professor | TROPICAL REGGAE SHOW| > Univ. of New Mexico, Gallup | 10pm to 12pm Friday | > 200 College Rd. | KGLP-FM 91.7 MHz | > Gallup, NM 87301 | Gallup Public Radio | Wow this gave me a chance to fire up my old SE that's been in my basement since 1986. Was out twice since then for a few weeks. When I turned it on it only showed the folder/question mark. I was able to get it to boot from 3 install disks I have with 7.0.1 and another MacVision that said 1.1 ?? that's gotta be the MacVision version but it was under the "About This Mac". All this time the HD didn't show up. So after 5 on and off cycles I lifted the SE about 3 inches off the desk and dropped it. The drive whirred and booted up fine. It has 7.5.1 on it. I also had a 6.0.8 that wouldn't boot but I could read it and saw the elements were out of the system folder. So I put everything back in the folder, blessed it, got the smiley Mac icon on the folder and it booted right up in system 6.0.8 and finder 6.1.8. Good ol' Mac. If you can't boot from that 7.1 there's a 6.0.8 here: http://home24.inet.tele.dk/ccadams/se/boot.html but you'll need a working 3.5" floppy and probably classic. If nothing else works I'll be glad to send one of the 7.0.1 installers. Richard
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In article <1140057149.932768.32000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "spudnuty" <spudnuty@lycos.com> wrote: > Wow this gave me a chance to fire up my old SE that's been in my > basement since 1986. Given that it was released in 1987 with the Mac II, that seems unlikely. :-D -- We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams. from "Ode", Arthur O'Shaughnessy
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Howard S Shubs wrote: > In article <1140057149.932768.32000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > "spudnuty" <spudnuty@lycos.com> wrote: > > > Wow this gave me a chance to fire up my old SE that's been in my > > basement since 1986. > > Given that it was released in 1987 with the Mac II, that seems unlikely. > :-D > > -- > We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, > Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams. > from "Ode", Arthur O'Shaughnessy Yup that was my 128K that went into retirement when I got the SE ~ 87. The SE was retired when I got the IIfx sometime in the early '90s Richard
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Stephen E Buggie <buggie@unm.edu> writes: > > My Mac SE crashes at power-up. I gives the bell-chime, then it > proceeds though the launch sequence. After showing two > extension-icons, it crashes. Then a dialogue-box shows the BOMB icon > with the message, SORRY, A SYSTEM ERROR HAS OCCURRED --- ADDRESS ERROR > It never reaches the desktop; this crash occurs every time. Sounds like the hardware is OK, but you have a corrupt system extension. > The Mac SE has a 330 meg internal hard drive, System 6.x.x, and a 1.4 > meg internal 3.5 floppy drive. There is a SCSI port but no internal CD > reader. The b/w screen is extremely sharp in its focus. The computer > worked fine until about a year ago, when I stupidly put a file in the > wrong folder. Sounds like you put a broken extension in the System Folder. Boot from a floppy or CD, drag the file out of there and see what happens. > It has crashed consistently ever since! It has an assortment of > software on the hard drive, but I have backups of everything and am > willing to reformat the entire hard drive if necessary to get the > computer working again! If I can resurrect the computer, I hope to > upgrade the system to System 7.0 or 7.1 . You can upgrade as far as 7.5.5. If you do not have 4M of RAM (the maximum an SE can accept), then upgrade it first. System 7 is very painful with less than 4M. You may want to keep System 6 on the drive anyway, however. It is much faster. > DONE SO FAR: Yes, I have launched it with shift-key down, to turn off > the extensions, but it always crashes The ability to suppress extensions by holding down SHIFT was not present in System 6. So that won't work. There were third-party extensions to provide this, but you clearly can't get one installed right now! > Ive also tried various rescue disks but most are not recognized when > in the floppy drive. Best luck was with NORTON UTILITIES APPLICATION ! > FLOPPY DISK. This disk loads at power-up, and I was able to use SPEED > DISK to optimize the hard drive. None of the other functions of this > Norton disk could be activated. It has a companion disk, Norton > Utilities Application 2 disk, but at power-up, the hard drive ignores > Norton #2, spinning up the hard drive until the port of inevitable > crash. Speed disk won't do anything useful here. Your problem has nothing to do with fragmentation. If you can get to the Finder from one of these boot disks, that's your best bet. Go into the System Folder and remove the file that you put in there when this whole mess got started. > WHAT ELSE CAN I DO???? Im willing to erase the hard drive if > necessary. System 7.1 floppies are on their way from someone. > Does anyone of a rescue disk that can fix this so-called > system error / address error? I will pay postage costs if > anyone can send me a rescue disk. If you have access to some other Mac with a floppy drive, you may find this page useful: http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html This is a repository of Apple products tat are old and unsupported but still available. In here, you can find: - System 6.0.8 (either 2 1.44M floppy images or 4 800K images) - System 7.5.3 (a 19-part self-extrcting archive) - The updater from 7.5.3 to 7.5.5 Good luck. -- David
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