I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
Thanks.

Hi Howard,

On 2005-03-30 17:56:55 +0200, "Howard" <Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu> said:
> I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
> Thanks.

.... Safari is more vulnerable to resize/maximize and other nasty window 
operations than is FireFox. Safari looks better, tho. ;-) But FireFox 
can display a number of pages at least halfway correctly that Safari 
miserably fails at.

Example: http://www.tcs.ch

A typical microcrap site. Try this with both Safari and FireFox and see 
for yourself.

Hope this helps.
-- 
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"Howard" <Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu> writes:

> I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
> Thanks.

I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).

Yet, I hear of a lot of people using it regularly.  If so, do you have
the scrollbar issue, and if not, did you do anything to fix it?

(It's not a one-off problem, I see it on every OS X box I have access
to, including a brank-spanking new Mini).

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http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

> I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
> Thanks.

I use Firefox primarily, but I'm disappointed that it doesn't look or 
behave like the x86 version.

Safari runs nicely most of the time, but suffers from slow-downs and 
other performace issues.  And the fact that the first time I open the 
bookmark menu it takes 3 seconds to show up really bugs me.  But the 
main reason I use Firefox is the extentions.  If Safari would even give 
you more tab usage customization and show the little icon next to 
bookmarks like other browsers do, I'd probably switch back.\

In article <d2ek7e$3nb8$1@netnews.upenn.edu>, o-chan <poda@REMOVEmac.com> wrote:

> > I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
> > Thanks.
> 
> I use Firefox primarily, but I'm disappointed that it doesn't look or 
> behave like the x86 version.
> 
> Safari runs nicely most of the time, but suffers from slow-downs and 
> other performace issues.  And the fact that the first time I open the 
> bookmark menu it takes 3 seconds to show up really bugs me.  But the 
> main reason I use Firefox is the extentions.  If Safari would even give 
> you more tab usage customization and show the little icon next to 
> bookmarks like other browsers do, I'd probably switch back.\

How does the Netscape 7 for OS X stack up in the opinions?

In article <3b016fF6cqvtdU2@individual.net>,
Paul F�rster  <paul.foerster@gmx.net> wrote:
>Hi Howard,
>
>On 2005-03-30 17:56:55 +0200, "Howard" <Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu> said:
>> I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
>> Thanks.
>
>... Safari is more vulnerable to resize/maximize and other nasty window 
>operations than is FireFox. Safari looks better, tho. ;-) But FireFox 
>can display a number of pages at least halfway correctly that Safari 
>miserably fails at.

Safari is also hideously slow on eBay on my iBook G3, especially with tabbed
browsing. Firefox is adequate in the same situation.

In article <3b016fF6cqvtdU2@individual.net>,
 Paul F�rster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> wrote:

> Example: http://www.tcs.ch

Bad Example:  http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tcs.ch

> A typical microcrap site. Try this with both Safari and FireFox and see 
> for yourself.

Don't blame (or credit) the browser when a site is poorly constructed.

Richard Kaszeta <rich@kaszeta.org> wrote:

> "Howard" <Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu> writes:
> 
> > I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
> > Thanks.
> 
> I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
> does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).

I have loads of extensions installed here, and cannot report any
problems at all.

> Yet, I hear of a lot of people using it regularly.  If so, do you have
> the scrollbar issue, and if not, did you do anything to fix it?

I use FF as my default browser now. The only time I see missing scroll
bars is if I install an iffy Theme.

> (It's not a one-off problem, I see it on every OS X box I have access
> to, including a brank-spanking new Mini).

Nothing here, two Macs running 10.3.8, scroll bars are fine, and always
have been.

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(updated Feb 21 2005)

hairy.biker@spamcop.net (Andy Hewitt) writes:
> > I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
> > does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).
> 
> I have loads of extensions installed here, and cannot report any
> problems at all.

Tabbrowser preferences is the only one I've really had problems with
(Tab support stops working after a while with some sets of
preference).  That's the important one for me, since that is what I
need to get my Windows and Mac versions behaving similarly.
 
> > Yet, I hear of a lot of people using it regularly.  If so, do you have
> > the scrollbar issue, and if not, did you do anything to fix it?
> 
> I use FF as my default browser now. The only time I see missing scroll
> bars is if I install an iffy Theme.

Odd.  I'm not using a user-installed theme.  What theme are you running?
 
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2005 11:45:56 -0600, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.mac.misc,
yawatina tan reek esk Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet@2005.subsume.com> fornis do
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>In article <3b016fF6cqvtdU2@individual.net>,
> Paul F�rster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> Example: http://www.tcs.ch
>
>Bad Example:  http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tcs.ch
>
>> A typical microcrap site. Try this with both Safari and FireFox and see 
>> for yourself.
>
>Don't blame (or credit) the browser when a site is poorly constructed.

Indeed.  Apart from the lack of character encoding on the page, there are 25
HTML errors there.  That's inexcusable, especially considering the page does
almost nothing.

deKay
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o-chan <poda@REMOVEmac.com> writes:

> > I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
> > Thanks.
> 
> I use Firefox primarily, but I'm disappointed that it doesn't look or
> behave like the x86 version.

Really?  I very much prefer how Firefox looks on my Mac and
on my Linux box to how it looks on my windows machine.

> main reason I use Firefox is the extentions.  If Safari would even
> give you more tab usage customization and show the little icon next to
> bookmarks like other browsers do, I'd probably switch back.\

Whoo-ya!  AdBlock and FlashBlock totally rock.  Pithhelmet for
Safari helps, but AdBlock for Firefox is just astoundingly cool.
The little AdBlock button on the status bar pops up a list of
blockable things on a page and you just select them and *poof*
away they go.  Block flash, block javascript, block iframes
and browse without the hassle and at twice the speed.

<rant size='relatively minor'>
I'd be a lot less zealous with the ad-blocking if the sites
and advertisers would be a lot less obnoxious about the ads.
If they could confine them to a third or less of a page, and
stop with the animation - ads shouldn't freaking move! - and
jeez - some of them (flash) even have goddamned *sounds*.
</rant>

One thing that I really would like, though, would be some
form of bookmark syncronization for FireFox.  Safari lets
you sync bookmarks between multiple computers by storing
your bookmarks through iSync and .mac.  OmniWeb comes close
to doing that through .mac (or any WebDAV space one might
have), though .mac is a little flakey and when OmniWeb
cannot contact .mac, it annoys the crap out of you with
lots of "please enter your password" failures (like Mail.app,
the symptom of a failure to communicate is a password dialog).

Anyway, I kind of bounce between those three browsers
depending on my mood and, sometimes, on what I'm actually
trying to do.  No reason not to!



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Richard Kaszeta <rich@kaszeta.org> wrote:

<Snipped Text>

> > I have loads of extensions installed here, and cannot report any
> > problems at all.
> 
> Tabbrowser preferences is the only one I've really had problems with
> (Tab support stops working after a while with some sets of
> preference).  That's the important one for me, since that is what I
> need to get my Windows and Mac versions behaving similarly.

I've had tabbrowser preferences installed for a few weeks now and
haven't had any issues at all.

Mind you, I couldn't get FoxyTunes to work properly though. That just
caused a network freeze.

> > > Yet, I hear of a lot of people using it regularly.  If so, do you have
> > > the scrollbar issue, and if not, did you do anything to fix it?
> > 
> > I use FF as my default browser now. The only time I see missing scroll
> > bars is if I install an iffy Theme.
> 
> Odd.  I'm not using a user-installed theme.  What theme are you running?

I currently stick with the default, but I've tried some of the available
themes, Nautipolis was my favourite, all but the default seem to lose
the scroll bar. Or at least the graphics for it. If you click into the
area where you think it should be, it still works.

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Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor)
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(updated Feb 21 2005)

Richard Kaszeta wrote:
> "Howard" <Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu> writes:
> 
> 
>>I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
>>Thanks.
> 
> 
> I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
> does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).

I don't understand:  I'm running Firefox on Mac OS X every single day, 
and I have scrollbars..  ???


> 
> Yet, I hear of a lot of people using it regularly.  If so, do you have
> the scrollbar issue, and if not, did you do anything to fix it?
> 
> (It's not a one-off problem, I see it on every OS X box I have access
> to, including a brank-spanking new Mini).
> 

I don't know what the plugin you are talking about does, but if it 
doesn't work right, why use it?

-- 
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Unix/Linux/Mac OS X  resources: http://aplawrence.com

>>>I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
>>does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).
> 
> 
> I have loads of extensions installed here, and cannot report any
> problems at all.

The one real buggy thing with FF now, and it seems not everyone sees 
this, is that if you hide the app and come back to it later, the window 
is blank.  If you shrink it to the dock and then pull it back out, it's 
fine.  Very odd.  It almost looks like something javascript would do, 
but javascript does not run the application itself.

> Whoo-ya!  AdBlock and FlashBlock totally rock.  Pithhelmet for
> Safari helps, but AdBlock for Firefox is just astoundingly cool.
> The little AdBlock button on the status bar pops up a list of
> blockable things on a page and you just select them and *poof*
> away they go.  Block flash, block javascript, block iframes
> and browse without the hassle and at twice the speed.

I have adblock, and I try not to use it, because those sites depend on 
ad revenue, and anything that's not a popup is okay with me :)

But I do use it when there's excessive animation or (ugh) SOUND. 
Nothing like being in the middle of a work day and it sounds like you 
just died in Donkey Kong.

On 30 Mar 2005 07:56:55 -0800, "Howard" <Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu>
wrote:

>I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
>Thanks.

firefox is a tiny bit more compliant to sites aspecially written form
Internet Explorer,... but neither fully compliant... 
I use Camino for speed, Firefox for comfort  & rarely Safari.

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o-chan <poda@REMOVEmac.com> wrote:

> >>>I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
> >>>Thanks.
> >>
> >>I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
> >>does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).
> > 
> > 
> > I have loads of extensions installed here, and cannot report any
> > problems at all.
> 
> The one real buggy thing with FF now, and it seems not everyone sees 
> this, is that if you hide the app and come back to it later, the window
> is blank.  If you shrink it to the dock and then pull it back out, it's
> fine.  Very odd.  It almost looks like something javascript would do,
> but javascript does not run the application itself.

Funnily enough, this is only the second time I've seen mention of this,
none of the forums, or the Mozilla web pages, refer to it at all.

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(updated Feb 21 2005)

In article <d2f66m$3s8h$2@netnews.upenn.edu>,
 o-chan <poda@REMOVEmac.com> wrote:

> >>>I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
> >>>Thanks.
> >>
> >>I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
> >>does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).
> > 
> > 
> > I have loads of extensions installed here, and cannot report any
> > problems at all.
> 
> The one real buggy thing with FF now, and it seems not everyone sees 
> this, is that if you hide the app and come back to it later, the window 
> is blank.  If you shrink it to the dock and then pull it back out, it's 
> fine.  Very odd.  It almost looks like something javascript would do, 
> but javascript does not run the application itself.


I have exactly the same problem with Firefox.  I solve it by quitting 
and restarting it every few days and, since I make such heavy use of 
both FF and iCab, that really is no great inconvenience for me.  
Hopefully they will fix the problem soon.

Andy Hewitt <hairy.biker@spamcop.net> wrote:
:> The one real buggy thing with FF now, and it seems not everyone sees 
:> this, is that if you hide the app and come back to it later, the window
:> is blank.  If you shrink it to the dock and then pull it back out, it's
:> fine.  Very odd.  It almost looks like something javascript would do,
:> but javascript does not run the application itself.
: Funnily enough, this is only the second time I've seen mention of this,
: none of the forums, or the Mozilla web pages, refer to it at all.

I get this behaviour sometimes - it seems to correspond to when i've
been using sites with heavy java action going on.

<jes.t.er@hexduxhmp.org> wrote:

> Andy Hewitt <hairy.biker@spamcop.net> wrote:
> :> The one real buggy thing with FF now, and it seems not everyone sees
> :> this, is that if you hide the app and come back to it later, the window
> :> is blank.  If you shrink it to the dock and then pull it back out, it's
> :> fine.  Very odd.  It almost looks like something javascript would do,
> :> but javascript does not run the application itself.
> : Funnily enough, this is only the second time I've seen mention of this,
> : none of the forums, or the Mozilla web pages, refer to it at all.
> 
> I get this behaviour sometimes - it seems to correspond to when i've
> been using sites with heavy java action going on.

Could be, I don't go to too many of those myself.

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(updated Feb 21 2005)

Andy Hewitt <hairy.biker@spamcop.net> wrote:
:> I get this behaviour sometimes - it seems to correspond to when i've
:> been using sites with heavy java action going on.
: Could be, I don't go to too many of those myself.

Me either, but it does seem to correspond.  BTW I realized after posting
that it might have been 'javascript' and not 'java', I don't really pay
attention.  I just know it is "functionality beyond HTML" :)

<jes.t.er@hexduxhmp.org> wrote:

> Andy Hewitt <hairy.biker@spamcop.net> wrote:
> :> I get this behaviour sometimes - it seems to correspond to when i've
> :> been using sites with heavy java action going on.
> : Could be, I don't go to too many of those myself.
> 
> Me either, but it does seem to correspond.  BTW I realized after posting
> that it might have been 'javascript' and not 'java', I don't really pay
> attention.  I just know it is "functionality beyond HTML" :)

Not sure, I use a few Javascripted sites, but have never seen this
particular issue.

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(updated Feb 21 2005)

In article <mc3rh2-bc3.ln1@narcissus.dyndns.org>,
 Chris Brown <cpbrown@ntlworld.no_uce_please.com> wrote:

>In article <3b016fF6cqvtdU2@individual.net>,
>Paul F�rster  <paul.foerster@gmx.net> wrote:
>>Hi Howard,
>>
>>On 2005-03-30 17:56:55 +0200, "Howard" <Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu> said:
>>> I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
>>> Thanks.
>>
>>... Safari is more vulnerable to resize/maximize and other nasty window 
>>operations than is FireFox. Safari looks better, tho. ;-) But FireFox 
>>can display a number of pages at least halfway correctly that Safari 
>>miserably fails at.
>
>Safari is also hideously slow on eBay on my iBook G3, especially with tabbed
>browsing. Firefox is adequate in the same situation.

Try turning off JavaScript. That helps a *lot*.

Dirk H�sken <dirk.huesken@student.uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:

> In article <mc3rh2-bc3.ln1@narcissus.dyndns.org>,
>  Chris Brown <cpbrown@ntlworld.no_uce_please.com> wrote:
> 
> >In article <3b016fF6cqvtdU2@individual.net>,
> >Paul F�rster  <paul.foerster@gmx.net> wrote:
> >>Hi Howard,
> >>
> >>On 2005-03-30 17:56:55 +0200, "Howard" <Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu> said:
> >>> I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
> >>> Thanks.
> >>
> >>... Safari is more vulnerable to resize/maximize and other nasty window
> >>operations than is FireFox. Safari looks better, tho. ;-) But FireFox
> >>can display a number of pages at least halfway correctly that Safari
> >>miserably fails at.
> >
> >Safari is also hideously slow on eBay on my iBook G3, especially with tabbed
> >browsing. Firefox is adequate in the same situation.
> 
> Try turning off JavaScript. That helps a *lot*.

Neither Firefox nor Safari offer print preview, its the only reason to
hang on to Explorer..

ray

Paul F�rster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi Ray,
> 
> > Neither Firefox nor Safari offer print preview, its the only reason to
> > hang on to Explorer..
> 
> ... sorry, I have to correct you here. Both Safari and FireFox use the
> standard print request window (menu File/Print) that offers a "Preview"
> button on the lower left and which works perfectly well. So hang on to
> Exploder... ;-)
> 
> Hope this helps.

I stand corrected, Paul. 
After testing these previews, perhaps I should be more precise:
Only Explorer offers a print preview with which one can manipulate to 
print just what one needs, for example leave out the ads, change text
size in real time, etc..

ray

In article <1guqv1l.16v54hx1br9fe3N%rlaughton@invalid.com>,
 rlaughton@invalid.com (Ray Laughton) wrote:

> Only Explorer offers a print preview with which one can manipulate to 
> print just what one needs, for example leave out the ads, change text
> size in real time, etc..


I guess you have not seen iCab's Print Preview.

Madwen <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

> In article <1guqv1l.16v54hx1br9fe3N%rlaughton@invalid.com>,
>  rlaughton@invalid.com (Ray Laughton) wrote:
> 
> > Only Explorer offers a print preview with which one can manipulate to
> > print just what one needs, for example leave out the ads, change text
> > size in real time, etc..
> 
> 
> I guess you have not seen iCab's Print Preview.

I tried iCab in the 90's, was not too impressed.
Did they finally move to OSX?

ray

Paul F�rster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi Ray,
> 
> > Only Explorer offers a print preview with which one can manipulate to
> > print just what one needs, for example leave out the ads, change text
> > size in real time, etc..
> 
> ... ok, THIS of course is a completely different requirement. IMHO it's
> one that is not supposed to be in print preview at all because the 
> preview should show the document exactly as it is printed which it 
> does. Preprocessing the document before printing is the task of the 
> program that wants to print it. But I guess that's a matter of taste.

Its more than a matter of taste, its essential and its saves a lot of
paper.. WYSIWYG came from Apple, its a shame they dont offer it for 
printing with Safari.
Although I generally avoid MS products, the printing thing was one thing
Microsoft did right in Explorer, so I shall keep it until the
competition come up with something better.
I also noticed how slow Safari became lately, one spends more and more
time watching the spinning wheel.. Firefox is a bit quicker, but it
seems to have a few of the quirks that got me to drop Netscape some time
ago. 



ray

In article <1gus0zx.1wy8iyrr08dh2N%rlaughton@invalid.com>,
 rlaughton@invalid.com (Ray Laughton) wrote:

> Madwen <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1guqv1l.16v54hx1br9fe3N%rlaughton@invalid.com>,
> >  rlaughton@invalid.com (Ray Laughton) wrote:
> > 
> > > Only Explorer offers a print preview with which one can manipulate to
> > > print just what one needs, for example leave out the ads, change text
> > > size in real time, etc..
> > 
> > 
> > I guess you have not seen iCab's Print Preview.
> 
> I tried iCab in the 90's, was not too impressed.
> Did they finally move to OSX?
> 
> ray

There is a Mac OS X version of iCab.  I used to use it on Mac OS 9, 
because it was fast and used very little memory, had pop-up blocking, 
and I was using a memory and CPU starved Mac at the time.

I only fire it up on Mac OS X if I need to find a browser that will 
access some web site that causes other browsers to die, or just now work 
right.  When this happens I'm often times trying every browser I have 
and iCab is one just one of the bunch.

My current bowser is mostly Firefox, and that is only because I found 
that it worked better with Google Mail keyboard navigation.  Firefox is 
bad by itself, but if it wasn't for the Google Mail thing, I would most 
likely still be using Safari.  It will be interesting to see how Safari 
changes with Tiger.

                                        Bob Harris

Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:30:18 +0200, dirk.huesken@student.uni-tuebingen.de suggested:
: In article <mc3rh2-bc3.ln1@narcissus.dyndns.org>,
:  Chris Brown <cpbrown@ntlworld.no_uce_please.com> wrote:
: 
:>In article <3b016fF6cqvtdU2@individual.net>,
:>Paul F�rster  <paul.foerster@gmx.net> wrote:
:>>Hi Howard,
:>>
:>>On 2005-03-30 17:56:55 +0200, "Howard" <Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu> said:
:>>> I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
:>>> Thanks.
:>>
:>>... Safari is more vulnerable to resize/maximize and other nasty window 
:>>operations than is FireFox. Safari looks better, tho. ;-) But FireFox 
:>>can display a number of pages at least halfway correctly that Safari 
:>>miserably fails at.
:>
:>Safari is also hideously slow on eBay on my iBook G3, especially with tabbed
:>browsing. Firefox is adequate in the same situation.
: 
: Try turning off JavaScript. That helps a *lot*.

Not really an acceptable solution, though.

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Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:20:56 +0200, rlaughton@invalid.com suggested:
: 
: Neither Firefox nor Safari offer print preview, its the only reason to
: hang on to Explorer..

....and is dwarfed by the reasons not to. It would be nice if IE rendered
standards-compliant web sites correctly, but since they discontinued
development on the Mac version, that's out of the question.

-- 
 agreenbu @ nyx . net                             andrew michael greenburg

On 2005-03-30 18:07:43 +0200, Paul F�rster said:

> Hi Howard,
> 
> On 2005-03-30 17:56:55 +0200, "Howard" <Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu> said:
>> I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
>> Thanks.
> 
> ... Safari is more vulnerable to resize/maximize and other nasty window 
> operations than is FireFox. Safari looks better, tho. ;-) But FireFox 
> can display a number of pages at least halfway correctly that Safari 
> miserably fails at.
> 
> Example: http://www.tcs.ch
> 
> A typical microcrap site. Try this with both Safari and FireFox and see 
> for yourself.
> 
> Hope this helps.

I agree with Paul,
Firefox is more productive

hello wrote:
> On 2005-03-30 18:07:43 +0200, Paul F=C3=B6rster said:
>
>> Hi Howard,
>>
>> On 2005-03-30 17:56:55 +0200, "Howard"<Howard.Wettstein@ucr.edu>  said=
:
>>> I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> ... Safari is more vulnerable to resize/maximize and other nasty windo=
w
>> operations than is FireFox. Safari looks better, tho. ;-) But FireFox
>> can display a number of pages at least halfway correctly that Safari
>> miserably fails at.
>>
>> Example: http://www.tcs.ch
>>
>> A typical microcrap site. Try this with both Safari and FireFox and se=
e
>> for yourself.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>
> I agree with Paul,
> Firefox is more productive
>

Don't see a difference looks Identical with SeaMonkey, FireFox, Safari,=20
iCab, Opera, OminiWeb, Safari.

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