There's a PC in the building on the network that I need to get some files 
from. The PC is going to be donated to a charity, and the only value it has 
are the documents on the hard drive. 

How can I get files from there to my PowerBook running OS X? 

I no very little about Windows, but can negotiate my way around, if I can get 
some instructions. Is there networking capability in W98 that I can take 
advantage of from OS X?

Any help in this direction would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
-- 
Dave C
dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, DaveC wrote:

> There's a PC in the building on the network that I need to get some files
> from. The PC is going to be donated to a charity, and the only value it has
> are the documents on the hard drive.
>
> How can I get files from there to my PowerBook running OS X?

Use OS X's windows file sharing and access that from the PC. Alternatively
share a folder on the PC(right-click -> properties; sharing tab on recent
versions of windows, 98 could be different)  and access that from your
Mac.

Fred

In article <0001HW.BB8E24B20000DF3A19063080@news.individual.net>,
 DaveC <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:

> There's a PC in the building on the network that I need to get some files 
> from. The PC is going to be donated to a charity, and the only value it has 
> are the documents on the hard drive. 
> 
> How can I get files from there to my PowerBook running OS X? 
> 
> I no very little about Windows, but can negotiate my way around, if I can get 
> some instructions. Is there networking capability in W98 that I can take 
> advantage of from OS X?
> 
> Any help in this direction would be greatly appreciated.

Ftp will work fine.  Win98 is not likely to be running an ftp server, 
but OSX is running one by default, good little Unix that it is.  There's 
a very good shareware ftp client for Windows called WS_FTP.  Install 
that (if it's not already installed) on the Windows box and connect to 
the IP address of your Mac.  I forget if WS_FTP supports drag and drop, 
I think only the paid version does.  In any event it's easy to use, you 
just select the Windows files you want to transfer and they'll get sent 
over to the Mac with no problem.  

If these are Word files, you might want to make sure you send them as 
binary rather than ASCII in order to preserve any special formatting, 
but hopefully the latest version of WS_FTP is smart enough to figure 
that out.

Frederick Cheung <fglc2@srcf.DUH.ucam.org> wrote:

> 
> Use OS X's windows file sharing and access that from the PC. 

I can't get this to work from Win98, just as little as I can access a
shared folder on a Win2000 or XP box from Win98.

The connection dialog in Win98 only allows for entering password (not
username) - Win98 shares each resource with a unique password -
while you need both to log in to MacOSX/Win2000/WinXP.

Or does anyone have a workaround ?

You have to share your folder on the PC and connect from the Mac.
Just hope that file sharing is *installed* on the PC. 
In Win98 it's not installed by default ...

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:11:44 GMT,
    fishfry (fishfry@your-mailbox.com) wrote:
> Ftp will work fine.  Win98 is not likely to be running an ftp server, 
> but OSX is running one by default, good little Unix that it is.   

Not running by default.  Its installed by default, but you have to
enable it, thank god.  A more secure alternative is to use ssh/scp/sftp
for file transfers -- there are ssh/scp/sftp clients available for 
windows computers.

Bev
-- 
Bev A. Kupf
"The lyfe so short, the craft so long to lerne" -- Chaucer

> > Use OS X's windows file sharing and access that from the PC. 
> 
> I can't get this to work from Win98, just as little as I can access a
> shared folder on a Win2000 or XP box from Win98.

On Win2000 and XP, you must enable the Guest account.

> The connection dialog in Win98 only allows for entering password (not
> username) - Win98 shares each resource with a unique password -
> while you need both to log in to MacOSX/Win2000/WinXP.

Connecting to Win2000/XP:
* Select the server and connect to it.
* OSX prompts you for username/password
* Enter Guest with no password
* Choose the desired share

Connecting to Win95/98/Me:
* Select the server and connect to it.
* Choose the desired share
* OSX prompts you for username/password
* Enter Guest with no password

Works for me, anyway.

On 18 Sep 2003, Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote:

> > > Use OS X's windows file sharing and access that from the PC.
> >
> > I can't get this to work from Win98, just as little as I can access a
> > shared folder on a Win2000 or XP box from Win98.
>
> On Win2000 and XP, you must enable the Guest account.
Your shares must be 8 characters or less in length, with only
alphanumerical or underscores.

Fred
>
> > The connection dialog in Win98 only allows for entering password (not
> > username) - Win98 shares each resource with a unique password -
> > while you need both to log in to MacOSX/Win2000/WinXP.
>
> Connecting to Win2000/XP:
> * Select the server and connect to it.
> * OSX prompts you for username/password
> * Enter Guest with no password
> * Choose the desired share
>
> Connecting to Win95/98/Me:
> * Select the server and connect to it.
> * Choose the desired share
> * OSX prompts you for username/password
> * Enter Guest with no password
>
> Works for me, anyway.
>

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:11:44 -0700, fishfry wrote
(in message <fishfry-BE7A35.15114417092003@netnews.attbi.com>):

> Ftp will work fine.  Win98 is not likely to be running an ftp server, 
> but OSX is running one by default, good little Unix that it is.  There's 
> a very good shareware ftp client for Windows called WS_FTP.  Install 
> that (if it's not already installed) on the Windows box and connect to 
> the IP address of your Mac.  I forget if WS_FTP supports drag and drop, 
> I think only the paid version does.  In any event it's easy to use, you 
> just select the Windows files you want to transfer and they'll get sent 
> over to the Mac with no problem.  
> 
> If these are Word files, you might want to make sure you send them as 
> binary rather than ASCII in order to preserve any special formatting, 
> but hopefully the latest version of WS_FTP is smart enough to figure 
> that out.

I turned on FTP Access in System Preferences. The default FTP server name is 
ftp://pc-00102.

I installed WS_FTPLE that I downloaded from CNet's shareware library onto the 
Windows PC. 

When I try to access pc-00102, WS_FTP says that there is no such machine on 
the network. 

Not being familiar with Windows networking, I went to a Macintosh on the 
network and, using Fetch, tried to access the server on my computer. It can't 
see the server either. 

What am I not doing? I've got two users set up on the OS X host computer, and 
I tried loging in both from the remote client computers. I'm pretty sure that 
user names and passwords aren't the problem; the error is always "Machine not 
found" or "doesn't exist", not "User unknown" or "wrong password". 

All of these machines are connected to the LAN; they can access our DSL 
server and the Internet. They are on the same network segment with no routers 
or other such devices between; only switches and hubs. 

Any ideas why my personal FTP server isn't serving, even locally?

PowerBook G3/400; OS X 10.2.6

Thanks,
-- 
Dave C
dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com

To be thorough, I tried using both "ftp://pc-00102" and "pc-00102" as host 
names when attempting to connect. 
-- 
Dave C
dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com

Rebooted the Mac. The PC with WS_FTPLE (the free version) was able to connect 
to the Mac. Once that happened, file transfer was trivial. 

Thanks to all who pointed the way,
-- 
Dave C
dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com

On 9/19/03 4:09 PM, in article
0001HW.BB90BEA600069CAFF0080600@news.individual.net, "DaveC"
<dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:

> Rebooted the Mac. The PC with WS_FTPLE (the free version) was able to connect
> to the Mac. Once that happened, file transfer was trivial.
> 
> Thanks to all who pointed the way,
Even "Enough"?


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In article <BB90DD02.19458%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/19/03 4:09 PM, in article
> 0001HW.BB90BEA600069CAFF0080600@news.individual.net, "DaveC"
> <dave-usenet3016@mailblocks.com> wrote:
> 
> > Rebooted the Mac. The PC with WS_FTPLE (the free version) was able to 
> > connect
> > to the Mac. Once that happened, file transfer was trivial.
> > 
> > Thanks to all who pointed the way,
> Even "Enough"?
> 

But, of course. I RULZ!

-- 
Enough <enough@idontcare.com>