http://msfirefox.com

Features:
http://www.msfirefox.com/firefox-full-features.html

"Amazing Marginal Manipulation 
Automatically scales a printed margin so that it's not wider than the 
paper it will be printed on. Microsoft Firefox also includes a 
multi-page margin preview with live margins, resizing margins to avoid 
margin clipping, and an option to print only selected margins. Never 
have you seen a more robust margin technology in one small package."

The New Guy <replytogroup@here.thanks> wrote:

> http://msfirefox.com
> 
> Features:
> http://www.msfirefox.com/firefox-full-features.html

Both result in:

> Forbidden 
> You don't have permission to access /firefox-full-features.html
> on this server.
> 
> Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an
> ErrorDocument to handle the request. 
> Apache/1.3.37 Server at www.msfirefox.com Port 80

I probably shouldn't even try to check URLs like this, but anyway...
-- 
/Jon
For contact info, run the following in Terminal: 
Mail: echo 36199371860304980107073482417748002696458P|dc
Skype: echo 139576319600233690471689738P|dc

In article <1htvl5k.157ntbs14rgvi6N%see_signature@mac.com.invalid>,
 see_signature@mac.com.invalid (Jon) wrote:

> The New Guy <replytogroup@here.thanks> wrote:
> 
> > http://msfirefox.com
> > 
> > Features:
> > http://www.msfirefox.com/firefox-full-features.html
> 
> Both result in:
> 
> > Forbidden 
> > You don't have permission to access /firefox-full-features.html
> > on this server.
> > 
> > Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an
> > ErrorDocument to handle the request. 
> > Apache/1.3.37 Server at www.msfirefox.com Port 80
> 
> I probably shouldn't even try to check URLs like this, but anyway...

Google cache also shows the same error. However try 
http://www.msfirefox.net/ for an amusing bit of cover art and text. For 
example:
The following bare minimums are essential for the optimum operation of 
MS Firefox 2007
   �	A Credit Card

-- 
http://www.ericlindsay.com

Eric Lindsay <NOwebmasterSPAM@ericlindsay.com> wrote:

> Google cache also shows the same error. However try 
> http://www.msfirefox.net/ for an amusing bit of cover art and text. 

Very nice! :-)  Thanks.
-- 
/Jon
For contact info, run the following in Terminal: 
Mail: echo 36199371860304980107073482417748002696458P|dc
Skype: echo 139576319600233690471689738P|dc

In article 
<NOwebmasterSPAM-0B7055.20534821022007@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
 Eric Lindsay <NOwebmasterSPAM@ericlindsay.com> wrote:

> Google cache also shows the same error. However try 
> http://www.msfirefox.net/ for an amusing bit of cover art and text. For 
> example:
> The following bare minimums are essential for the optimum operation of 
> MS Firefox 2007
>    �	A Credit Card

Did you read the warnings? 

Visiting the following sites using MS Firefox 2007 will cause your 
computer to shut down unexpectedly
   �  www.google.com
   �  
   �  www.gmail.com
   �  
   �  
   �  www.apple.com
   �  
   �  
   �  www.itunes.com
   �  
   �  
   �  www.yahoo.com
   �  
   �  
   �  Any sites with the phrase: microsoft/windows/explorer/vista/bill 
sucks

Is this a joke?

Ruby

Eric Lindsay wrote:
> 
> Google cache also shows the same error. However try 
> http://www.msfirefox.net/ for an amusing bit of cover art and text. For 
> example:
> The following bare minimums are essential for the optimum operation of 
> MS Firefox 2007
>    €	A Credit Card
> 

Well I clicked the download button, and it turned out to be just mozilla
firefox 2.exe. Disappointed, I was hoping for somethng funny like

http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/WinRG.htm

Andy

In article <anon-1046DA.11000021022007@nntp.charter.net>,
 RubyTuesday <anon@mungedaddress.com> wrote:

> In article 
> <NOwebmasterSPAM-0B7055.20534821022007@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
>  Eric Lindsay <NOwebmasterSPAM@ericlindsay.com> wrote:
> 
> > Google cache also shows the same error. However try 
> > http://www.msfirefox.net/ for an amusing bit of cover art and text. For 
> > example:
> > The following bare minimums are essential for the optimum operation of 
> > MS Firefox 2007
> >    �	A Credit Card
> 
> Did you read the warnings? 
> 
> Visiting the following sites using MS Firefox 2007 will cause your 
> computer to shut down unexpectedly
>    �  www.google.com
>    �  
>    �  www.gmail.com
>    �  
>    �  
>    �  www.apple.com
>    �  
>    �  
>    �  www.itunes.com
>    �  
>    �  
>    �  www.yahoo.com
>    �  
>    �  
>    �  Any sites with the phrase: microsoft/windows/explorer/vista/bill 
> sucks
> 
> Is this a joke?
> 
> Ruby

Yes - the site was hilarious while it was up.  That was fast.

In article <1htvl5k.157ntbs14rgvi6N%see_signature@mac.com.invalid>,
 see_signature@mac.com.invalid (Jon) wrote:

> The New Guy <replytogroup@here.thanks> wrote:
> 
> > http://msfirefox.com
> > 
> > Features:
> > http://www.msfirefox.com/firefox-full-features.html
> 
> Both result in:
> 
> > Forbidden 
> > You don't have permission to access /firefox-full-features.html
> > on this server.
> > 
> > Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an
> > ErrorDocument to handle the request. 
> > Apache/1.3.37 Server at www.msfirefox.com Port 80
> 
> I probably shouldn't even try to check URLs like this, but anyway...

Dude, you run OS X don't you?  What?  Me worry?  :)

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:00:01 -0600, RubyTuesday wrote
(in article <anon-1046DA.11000021022007@nntp.charter.net>):

> In article 
> <NOwebmasterSPAM-0B7055.20534821022007@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
>  Eric Lindsay <NOwebmasterSPAM@ericlindsay.com> wrote:
> 
>> Google cache also shows the same error. However try 
>> http://www.msfirefox.net/ for an amusing bit of cover art and text. For 
>> example:
>> The following bare minimums are essential for the optimum operation of 
>> MS Firefox 2007
>> �	A Credit Card
> 
> Did you read the warnings? 
> 
> Visiting the following sites using MS Firefox 2007 will cause your 
> computer to shut down unexpectedly
>    �  www.google.com
>    �  
>    �  www.gmail.com
>    �  
>    �  
>    �  www.apple.com
>    �  
>    �  
>    �  www.itunes.com
>    �  
>    �  
>    �  www.yahoo.com
>    �  
>    �  
>    �  Any sites with the phrase: microsoft/windows/explorer/vista/bill 
> sucks
> 
> Is this a joke?
> 
> Ruby

A joke? You need to ask? Some more from the list of requirements (see stuff 
in parentheses):

	�	Microsoft(R) Mouse & Keyboard (Hyperlinks will NOT work without these)
	�	
	�	
	�	Live(TM) Messenger (Required API to maintain dangerous CPU temperatures)
	�	
	�	
	�	Microsoft(R) Office 2007 (Provides the ability to scroll webpages)
	�	
	�	
	�	Quad Core Processor (For loading Hotmail.com)
	�	
	�	
	�	1024 MB of RAM (Compensation for Frequent Memory Leaks)

-- 

Tim
lance_1012@hotmail.com

In article <anon-1046DA.11000021022007@nntp.charter.net>,
 RubyTuesday <anon@mungedaddress.com> wrote:

> Is this a joke?

No, it is very serious.

-- 
Support the troops:  Bring them home ASAP.

In article <7eOdneT4MtvvHkHYnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Tim Lance <see.sig@bottom.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:00:01 -0600, RubyTuesday wrote
> (in article <anon-1046DA.11000021022007@nntp.charter.net>):
> 
> > Is this a joke?
> 
> A joke? You need to ask? Some more from the list of requirements (see stuff 
> in parentheses):
> 
> 	?	Microsoft(R) Mouse & Keyboard (Hyperlinks will NOT work without these)
> 	?	Live(TM) Messenger (Required API to maintain dangerous CPU temperatures)
> 	?	Microsoft(R) Office 2007 (Provides the ability to scroll webpages)
> 	?	Quad Core Processor (For loading Hotmail.com)
> 	?	1024 MB of RAM (Compensation for Frequent Memory Leaks)

And if that's not enough, check the feature list:

  "delivers a dramatic boost in the download speeds of online pornography"

  "protects the Windows Kernel by automatically recognizing all McAfee
   and Symantec programs as viruses"

  "Microsoft's AKobe Phlash(TM) Plugin [...] (Lawsuit from Adobe pending)"

And barely visible on the picture of the box:

  "Finally bug-free"

  "Get burnt with MS Firefox 2007"

  "May contain spyware"

And under Donations:

  "The Microsoft(R) Corporation is an international non-profit organisation"

Michelle Steiner wrote:

Support the troops:
http://www.telme.com/flightsmiddleeast.asp

I just improved your mailsig.

In article 
<wayne.morris-8B48A2.12412821022007@shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,
 "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne.morris@this.is.invalid> wrote:

> In article <7eOdneT4MtvvHkHYnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com>,
>  Tim Lance <see.sig@bottom.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:00:01 -0600, RubyTuesday wrote
> > (in article <anon-1046DA.11000021022007@nntp.charter.net>):
> > 
> > > Is this a joke?
> > 
> > A joke? You need to ask? Some more from the list of requirements (see stuff 
> > in parentheses):
> > 
> > 	?	Microsoft(R) Mouse & Keyboard (Hyperlinks will NOT work without these)
> > 	?	Live(TM) Messenger (Required API to maintain dangerous CPU temperatures)
> > 	?	Microsoft(R) Office 2007 (Provides the ability to scroll webpages)
> > 	?	Quad Core Processor (For loading Hotmail.com)
> > 	?	1024 MB of RAM (Compensation for Frequent Memory Leaks)
> 
> And if that's not enough, check the feature list:
> 
>   "delivers a dramatic boost in the download speeds of online pornography"
> 
>   "protects the Windows Kernel by automatically recognizing all McAfee
>    and Symantec programs as viruses"
> 
>   "Microsoft's AKobe Phlash(TM) Plugin [...] (Lawsuit from Adobe pending)"
> 
> And barely visible on the picture of the box:
> 
>   "Finally bug-free"
> 
>   "Get burnt with MS Firefox 2007"
> 
>   "May contain spyware"
> 
> And under Donations:
> 
>   "The Microsoft(R) Corporation is an international non-profit organisation"

Oh, shit! That's what I get for not reading the whole thing. Duh.

Ruby

In article <anon-1F9E77.14315721022007@nntp.charter.net>,
 RubyTuesday <anon@mungedaddress.com> wrote:

> In article 
> <wayne.morris-8B48A2.12412821022007@shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,
>  "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne.morris@this.is.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > In article <7eOdneT4MtvvHkHYnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >  Tim Lance <see.sig@bottom.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:00:01 -0600, RubyTuesday wrote
> > > (in article <anon-1046DA.11000021022007@nntp.charter.net>):
> > > 
> > > > Is this a joke?
> > > 
> > > A joke? You need to ask? Some more from the list of requirements (see 
> > > stuff 
> > > in parentheses):
> > > 
> > > 	?	Microsoft(R) Mouse & Keyboard (Hyperlinks will NOT work without these)
> > > 	?	Live(TM) Messenger (Required API to maintain dangerous CPU 
> > > temperatures)
> > > 	?	Microsoft(R) Office 2007 (Provides the ability to scroll webpages)
> > > 	?	Quad Core Processor (For loading Hotmail.com)
> > > 	?	1024 MB of RAM (Compensation for Frequent Memory Leaks)
> > 
> > And if that's not enough, check the feature list:
> > 
> >   "delivers a dramatic boost in the download speeds of online pornography"
> > 
> >   "protects the Windows Kernel by automatically recognizing all McAfee
> >    and Symantec programs as viruses"
> > 
> >   "Microsoft's AKobe Phlash(TM) Plugin [...] (Lawsuit from Adobe pending)"
> > 
> > And barely visible on the picture of the box:
> > 
> >   "Finally bug-free"
> > 
> >   "Get burnt with MS Firefox 2007"
> > 
> >   "May contain spyware"
> > 
> > And under Donations:
> > 
> >   "The Microsoft(R) Corporation is an international non-profit 
> >   organisation"
> 
> Oh, shit! That's what I get for not reading the whole thing. Duh.
> 
> Ruby

That the last time I don't save a gem like that.  You never know how 
long it will last.  A real classic in the humor department.  Plus it 
looked professionally laid out.

In article
<replytogroup-1DE043.14575221022007@shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>, The New
Guy <replytogroup@here.thanks> wrote:

> In article <anon-1F9E77.14315721022007@nntp.charter.net>,
>  RubyTuesday <anon@mungedaddress.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article 
> > <wayne.morris-8B48A2.12412821022007@shawnews.wp.shawcable.net>,
> >  "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne.morris@this.is.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <7eOdneT4MtvvHkHYnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com>,
> > >  Tim Lance <see.sig@bottom.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:00:01 -0600, RubyTuesday wrote
> > > > (in article <anon-1046DA.11000021022007@nntp.charter.net>):
> > > > 
> > > > > Is this a joke?
> > > > 
> > > > A joke? You need to ask? Some more from the list of requirements (see 
> > > > stuff 
> > > > in parentheses):
> > > > 
> > > >  ?  Microsoft(R) Mouse & Keyboard (Hyperlinks will NOT work without
> > > > these)
> > > >  ?  Live(TM) Messenger (Required API to maintain dangerous CPU 
> > > > temperatures)
> > > >  ?  Microsoft(R) Office 2007 (Provides the ability to scroll webpages)
> > > >  ?  Quad Core Processor (For loading Hotmail.com)
> > > >  ?  1024 MB of RAM (Compensation for Frequent Memory Leaks)
> > > 
> > > And if that's not enough, check the feature list:
> > > 
> > >   "delivers a dramatic boost in the download speeds of online pornography"
> > > 
> > >   "protects the Windows Kernel by automatically recognizing all McAfee
> > >    and Symantec programs as viruses"
> > > 
> > >   "Microsoft's AKobe Phlash(TM) Plugin [...] (Lawsuit from Adobe pending)"
> > > 
> > > And barely visible on the picture of the box:
> > > 
> > >   "Finally bug-free"
> > > 
> > >   "Get burnt with MS Firefox 2007"
> > > 
> > >   "May contain spyware"
> > > 
> > > And under Donations:
> > > 
> > >   "The Microsoft(R) Corporation is an international non-profit 
> > >   organisation"
> > 
> > Oh, shit! That's what I get for not reading the whole thing. Duh.
> > 
> > Ruby
> 
> That the last time I don't save a gem like that.  You never know how 
> long it will last.  A real classic in the humor department.  Plus it 
> looked professionally laid out.

It's still there:

<http://www.msfirefox.net/>

-- 
You can't PLAN sincerity. You have to make it up on the spot! -- Denny Crane

In article <eri8e9$9ob$1@aioe.org>, nospam <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote:

> Support the troops:
> http://www.telme.com/flightsmiddleeast.asp
> 
> I just improved your mailsig.

The object is to get flights *from* the Middle East (more specifically, 
from Iraq); flights with all our troops on them.  That's the best way to 
keep them from getting killed or maimed over there.

-- 
Support the troops:  Bring them home ASAP.

In article <michelle-32058B.14560121022007@news.east.cox.net>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <eri8e9$9ob$1@aioe.org>, nospam <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote:
> 
> > Support the troops:
> > http://www.telme.com/flightsmiddleeast.asp
> > 
> > I just improved your mailsig.
> 
> The object is to get flights *from* the Middle East (more specifically, 
> from Iraq); flights with all our troops on them.  That's the best way to 
> keep them from getting killed or maimed over there.

Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views expressed 
in more appropriate groups.
-- 
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama

Steve W. Jackson wrote:
> In article <michelle-32058B.14560121022007@news.east.cox.net>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
>> In article <eri8e9$9ob$1@aioe.org>, nospam <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>>> Support the troops:
>>> http://www.telme.com/flightsmiddleeast.asp
>>>
>>> I just improved your mailsig.
>> The object is to get flights *from* the Middle East (more specifically, 
>> from Iraq); flights with all our troops on them.  That's the best way to 
>> keep them from getting killed or maimed over there.
> 
> Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views expressed 
> in more appropriate groups.

Like many people, you will have to learn to be disappointed.  Happens to 
everyone eventually.

In article <stevewjackson-454FBF.16304721022007@individual.net>, Steve
W. Jackson <stevewjackson@knology.net> wrote:

> In article <michelle-32058B.14560121022007@news.east.cox.net>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > In article <eri8e9$9ob$1@aioe.org>, nospam <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote:
> > 
> > > Support the troops:
> > > http://www.telme.com/flightsmiddleeast.asp
> > > 
> > > I just improved your mailsig.
> > 
> > The object is to get flights *from* the Middle East (more specifically, 
> > from Iraq); flights with all our troops on them.  That's the best way to 
> > keep them from getting killed or maimed over there.
> 
> Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views expressed 
> in more appropriate groups.

It's a fucking sig line. Ignore it. I do.

-- 
"Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a
well-heeled Western liberal to explain that the face does, after all, enjoy
free health care and 100 percent literacy."  -- John Derbyshire

> > > > > > Is this a joke?
> > > > > 
> > > > > A joke? You need to ask? Some more from the list of requirements (see 
> > > > > stuff in parentheses):
> > > > > 
> > > > >  ?  Microsoft(R) Mouse & Keyboard (Hyperlinks will NOT work without
> > > > > these)
> > > > >  ?  Live(TM) Messenger (Required API to maintain dangerous CPU 
> > > > > temperatures)
> > > > >  ?  Microsoft(R) Office 2007 (Provides the ability to scroll 
> > > > >  webpages)
> > > > >  ?  Quad Core Processor (For loading Hotmail.com)
> > > > >  ?  1024 MB of RAM (Compensation for Frequent Memory Leaks)
> > > > 
> > > > And if that's not enough, check the feature list:
> > > > 
> > > >   "delivers a dramatic boost in the download speeds of online 
> > > >   pornography"
> > > > 
> > > >   "protects the Windows Kernel by automatically recognizing all McAfee
> > > >    and Symantec programs as viruses"
> > > > 
> > > >   "Microsoft's AKobe Phlash(TM) Plugin [...] (Lawsuit from Adobe 
> > > >   pending)"
> > > > 
> > > > And barely visible on the picture of the box:
> > > > 
> > > >   "Finally bug-free"
> > > > 
> > > >   "Get burnt with MS Firefox 2007"
> > > > 
> > > >   "May contain spyware"
> > > > 
> > > > And under Donations:
> > > > 
> > > >   "The Microsoft(R) Corporation is an international non-profit 
> > > >   organisation"
> > > 
> > > Oh, shit! That's what I get for not reading the whole thing. Duh.
> > > 
> > > Ruby
> > 
> > That the last time I don't save a gem like that.  You never know how 
> > long it will last.  A real classic in the humor department.  Plus it 
> > looked professionally laid out.
> 
> It's still there:
> 
> <http://www.msfirefox.net/>

They've revamped the website and took out the priceless hyperlinks 
that took you to more descriptions of the product.  You snooze you 
lose.

On 2007-02-21 16:30:50 -0600, "Steve W. Jackson" 
<stevewjackson@knology.net> said:

> In article <michelle-32058B.14560121022007@news.east.cox.net>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
>> In article <eri8e9$9ob$1@aioe.org>, nospam <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote:
>> 
>>> Support the troops:
>>> http://www.telme.com/flightsmiddleeast.asp
>>> 
>>> I just improved your mailsig.
>> 
>> The object is to get flights *from* the Middle East (more specifically,
>> from Iraq); flights with all our troops on them.  That's the best way to
>> keep them from getting killed or maimed over there.
> 
> Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views expressed
> in more appropriate groups.

Yeah?  Well, some of us think it's quite silly that others bitch and 
moan about text in *signatures*.  Signatures are very commonly personal 
statements conveying personal views. If you read a signature with which 
you disagree, feel free to what the level-headed people do - ignore it. 
 If, instead, you'd rather bitch and moan and try (and, in all 
likelihood,  fail) to get someone to change their personal signature, I 
have two words for you:  tough titties!

-- 
JR

Steve W. Jackson <stevewjackson@knology.net> wrote:

> Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views expressed
> in more appropriate groups.

Well, she _did_ designate her post as OT and only made it in response to
someone who brought it up.

-- 
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In article <stevewjackson-454FBF.16304721022007@individual.net>,
 "Steve W. Jackson" <stevewjackson@knology.net> wrote:

> In article <michelle-32058B.14560121022007@news.east.cox.net>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > In article <eri8e9$9ob$1@aioe.org>, nospam <nospamatall@iol.ie> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Support the troops: http://www.telme.com/flightsmiddleeast.asp
> > > 
> > > I just improved your mailsig.
> > 
> > The object is to get flights *from* the Middle East (more 
> > specifically, from Iraq); flights with all our troops on them.  
> > That's the best way to keep them from getting killed or maimed over 
> > there.
> 
> Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views 
> expressed in more appropriate groups.

I see.  The Bush supporters have repealed the First Amendment?  If you 
don't like what Michelle posts, then killfile her.  It's pretty simple.  
I've got a number of people killfiled whom I thin are idiots.  Some of 
them have even returned the favor.

On 2007-02-22, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> In article <stevewjackson-454FBF.16304721022007@individual.net>,
>  "Steve W. Jackson" <stevewjackson@knology.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views 
>> expressed in more appropriate groups.
>
> I see.  The Bush supporters have repealed the First Amendment?  If you 
> don't like what Michelle posts, then killfile her.  It's pretty simple.  
> I've got a number of people killfiled whom I thin are idiots.  Some of 
> them have even returned the favor.

I think Nettiquete is perhaps more relevent here than First
Amendment rights. Sure, Bible John has a First Amendment
right to post long rants about Godlessness in a technical
newsgroup but it is reasonable to object to such behaviour.

On the other hand, as long as a .sig obeys the McQuary limit and
is separated from the body of the post by the proper sigdashes
then it's content is irrelevent. Those who are easily offended
should perhaps try to find a newsreader that is capable of
suppressing the .sig; either that or do as Tim suggests and
use the killfile.

Ian

-- 
Ian Gregory
http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/
Never attempt to distract a masturbating gorilla.

Ian Gregory <foo@bar.invalid> wrote:

> On 2007-02-22, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> > In article <stevewjackson-454FBF.16304721022007@individual.net>,
> >  "Steve W. Jackson" <stevewjackson@knology.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views 
> >> expressed in more appropriate groups.
> >
> > I see.  The Bush supporters have repealed the First Amendment?
> 
> I think Nettiquete is perhaps more relevent here than First
> Amendment rights.

Indeed. Last time I checked, an individual bitching about off-topic
posts was not the same thing as government censorship. Those who cite
the first amendment on this might actually want to go read it.

And let's see... It is unacceptable to bitch about other people's posts
as being off-topic because that is somehow violating their rights to say
whetever they want. But it is ok to bitch about someone else's bitching?
Um. Sure. Well, all concerned have a right to say whatever they want,
including bitching about what others say. People are not legally
required to be consistent, logical... or generally worth listening to.
:-)

-- 
Richard Maine                    | Good judgement comes from experience;
email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgement.
domain: summertriangle           |  -- Mark Twain

Ian Gregory <foo@bar.invalid> wrote:

> On the other hand, as long as a .sig obeys the McQuary limit and
> is separated from the body of the post by the proper sigdashes
> then it's content is irrelevent. 

Exactly!  To me, a properly delineated signature is equivalent to a
bumper sticker on a car.  While driving, I may strongly disagree with
someone's opinion as express on the car's bumper, but all that's
relevant is how the person is driving.  I'd rather be near an excellent
driver I disagree with than a bad driver whose opinions mirror mine.
 
-- 
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In article <1htwnlg.1ue42mgfgzavqN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
Mike Rosenberg <mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:

> Ian Gregory <foo@bar.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > On the other hand, as long as a .sig obeys the McQuary limit and
> > is separated from the body of the post by the proper sigdashes
> > then it's content is irrelevent. 
> 
> Exactly!  To me, a properly delineated signature is equivalent to a
> bumper sticker on a car.  While driving, I may strongly disagree with
> someone's opinion as express on the car's bumper, but all that's
> relevant is how the person is driving.  I'd rather be near an excellent
> driver I disagree with than a bad driver whose opinions mirror mine.

Nice analogy, Mike.

-- 
Any government will work if authority and responsibility are equal and
coordinate. This does not insure "good" government; it simply insures that it
will work. But such governments are rare — most people want to run things but
want no part of the blame. — Robert A. Heinlein

In article <stevewjackson-454FBF.16304721022007@individual.net>,
 "Steve W. Jackson" <stevewjackson@knology.net> wrote:

> > > http://www.telme.com/flightsmiddleeast.asp
> > > 
> > > I just improved your mailsig.
> > 
> > The object is to get flights *from* the Middle East (more 
> > specifically, from Iraq); flights with all our troops on them.  
> > That's the best way to keep them from getting killed or maimed over 
> > there.
> 
> Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views 
> expressed in more appropriate groups.

That's fine; just don't read my sig or reply to it.  If the anonymous 
guy had not replied to my sig, there wouldn't have been a message for me 
to reply to.

At least I had the courtesy to label the subject off topic, so those not 
interested in it could skip it.  That's what "[OT]" means, y'know.

-- 
Support the troops:  Bring them home ASAP.

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <eri8e9$9ob$1@aioe.org>, nospam <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote:
> 
>> Support the troops:
>> http://www.telme.com/flightsmiddleeast.asp
>>
>> I just improved your mailsig.
> 
> The object is to get flights *from* the Middle East (more specifically, 
> from Iraq); flights with all our troops on them.  That's the best way to 
> keep them from getting killed or maimed over there.
> 

I was thinking more of shutting up the couch potaoes who would have them
all get themselves killed to fulfill their football-fan-like fantasies
of greatness.

Andy

Ian Gregory wrote:
> On 2007-02-22, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> In article <stevewjackson-454FBF.16304721022007@individual.net>,
>>  "Steve W. Jackson" <stevewjackson@knology.net> wrote:
>>> Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views 
>>> expressed in more appropriate groups.
>> I see.  The Bush supporters have repealed the First Amendment?  If you 
>> don't like what Michelle posts, then killfile her.  It's pretty simple.  
>> I've got a number of people killfiled whom I thin are idiots.  Some of 
>> them have even returned the favor.
> 
> I think Nettiquete is perhaps more relevent here than First
> Amendment rights. Sure, Bible John has a First Amendment
> right to post long rants about Godlessness in a technical
> newsgroup but it is reasonable to object to such behaviour.
> 
> On the other hand, as long as a .sig obeys the McQuary limit and
> is separated from the body of the post by the proper sigdashes
> then it's content is irrelevent. Those who are easily offended
> should perhaps try to find a newsreader that is capable of
> suppressing the .sig; either that or do as Tim suggests and
> use the killfile.
> 
> Ian
> 

That is the beauty of usenet, and if more folks used it instead of web
fora and other proprietary such things, it might have been improved even
more. With a decent usenet client and a little learning and effort, you
can do your own censorship, rather than letting someone you don't know
do it for you. Also threads are much easier to follow.

Andy

Michelle Steiner wrote:

> That's fine; just don't read my sig or reply to it.  If the anonymous 
> guy had not replied to my sig, there wouldn't have been a message for me 
> to reply to.

I'm not anonymous, that's a real email address.
Andy

In article <erk0n2$53s$3@aioe.org>, nospam <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> 
> > That's fine; just don't read my sig or reply to it.  If the anonymous 
> > guy had not replied to my sig, there wouldn't have been a message for me 
> > to reply to.
> 
> I'm not anonymous, that's a real email address.

LOL. It took the spamming filth over 3 years to cotton on to the 
perfectly valid nospam@domain address I used to use.

-- 
Paul Sture

Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:

> Nice analogy, Mike.

Thank you.  Now I'm trying to figure out what the Usenet equivalent to
talking on a cell phone is.

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On Feb 21, 9:35 am, The New Guy <replytogr...@here.thanks> wrote:
> In article <anon-1046DA.11000021022...@nntp.charter.net>,
>
>
>
>  RubyTuesday <a...@mungedaddress.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <NOwebmasterSPAM-0B7055.20534821022...@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
> >  Eric Lindsay <NOwebmasterS...@ericlindsay.com> wrote:
>
> > > Google cache also shows the same error. However try
> > >http://www.msfirefox.net/for an amusing bit of cover art and text. For
> > > example:
> > > The following bare minimums are essential for the optimum operation of
> > > MS Firefox 2007
> > >    =E2=82=AC        A Credit Card
>
> > Did you read the warnings?
>
> > Visiting the following sites using MS Firefox 2007 will cause your
> > computer to shut down unexpectedly
> >    =E2=82=AC  www.google.com
> >    =E2=82=AC
> >    =E2=82=AC  www.gmail.com
> >    =E2=82=AC
> >    =E2=82=AC
> >    =E2=82=AC  www.apple.com
> >    =E2=82=AC
> >    =E2=82=AC
> >    =E2=82=AC  www.itunes.com
> >    =E2=82=AC
> >    =E2=82=AC
> >    =E2=82=AC  www.yahoo.com
> >    =E2=82=AC
> >    =E2=82=AC
> >    =E2=82=AC  Any sites with the phrase: microsoft/windows/explorer/vis=
ta/bill
> > sucks
>
> > Is this a joke?
>
> > Ruby
>
> Yes - the site was hilarious while it was up.  That was fast.

They probably just got tired of Hosting Fees after a few months.
http://msfirefox.net is the better one anyways and will probably be
the next to go.

Sebastian

This is Priceless.

I came to the Group wondering why people were bringing up Joke sites
from months ago, and ended up reading a bunch of crap about
Signatures, the First Ammendment, and such.

Sebastian

In article <1htxfyy.7isjd81xz0k4sN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
Mike Rosenberg <mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:

> Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:
> 
> > Nice analogy, Mike.
> 
> Thank you.  Now I'm trying to figure out what the Usenet equivalent to
> talking on a cell phone is.

Posting HTML...

-- 
You can't PLAN sincerity. You have to make it up on the spot! -- Denny Crane

In article <220220070934585488%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>,
 Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

> In article <1htxfyy.7isjd81xz0k4sN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
> Mike Rosenberg <mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > > Nice analogy, Mike.
> > 
> > Thank you.  Now I'm trying to figure out what the Usenet equivalent to
> > talking on a cell phone is.
> 
> Posting HTML...

"I don't read these newsgroups often. Please email your answers to me."

"Organization: http://groups.google.com"

-- 
Paul Sture

Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> wrote:

> "I don't read these newsgroups often. Please email your answers to me."

I have to say that I don't recall having seen something like this in
quite some time.  It used to be far more common.

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In article <1htxoq1.13mq2k612ouebN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
 mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> wrote:
> 
> > "I don't read these newsgroups often. Please email your answers to me."
> 
> I have to say that I don't recall having seen something like this in
> quite some time.  It used to be far more common.

Well that's because the new ethos is that you should never post with a 
real, replyable email address.

-- 
"and the snark alert level has reached "fuschia""
                   ---zig zigalo homes in on the meat of the matter

Alice Faber <afaber@panix.com> wrote:

> Well that's because the new ethos is that you should never post with a
> real, replyable email address.

Heck, I've seen people request email responses while providing a munged
address!  Not for quite some time, though...

-- 
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<http://designsbymike.biz/musings.shtml> Mostly muckraking T-shirts
<http://designsbymike.biz/prius.shtml> Prius shirts & bumper stickers
<http://cafepress.com/comedancing> Ballroom dance-themed shirts & gift

In article <erjshp$thk$1@aioe.org>, nospam <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote:

> > The object is to get flights *from* the Middle East (more 
> > specifically, from Iraq); flights with all our troops on them.  
> > That's the best way to keep them from getting killed or maimed over 
> > there.
> > 
> 
> I was thinking more of shutting up the couch potaoes who would have 
> them all get themselves killed to fulfill their football-fan-like 
> fantasies of greatness.

*chuckle*  Oh, OK.

-- 
Support the troops:  Bring them home ASAP.

In article <1172156582.349524.256940@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
 "Sebastian Lewis" <lewis.sebastian@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is Priceless.
> 
> I came to the Group wondering why people were bringing up Joke sites
> from months ago, and ended up reading a bunch of crap about
> Signatures, the First Ammendment, and such.
> 
> Sebastian

Hang in there Sebastion.  When you have a problem, this group is a 
total life saver.  There is no better group of highly intelligent and 
knowledgeable group of people ready and willing to help their fellow 
lost Mac user than here.  You're in good hands.  And its all free.  It 
would be hard to ask for anything more.  I used to post questions on 
macosx.com but I got so many wrong answers I gave up.  Plus you get 
answers here far faster.

The New Guy wrote:
> In article <1172156582.349524.256940@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
>  "Sebastian Lewis" <lewis.sebastian@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> This is Priceless.
>>
>> I came to the Group wondering why people were bringing up Joke sites
>> from months ago, and ended up reading a bunch of crap about
>> Signatures, the First Ammendment, and such.
>>
>> Sebastian
> 
> Hang in there Sebastion.  When you have a problem, this group is a 
> total life saver.  There is no better group of highly intelligent and 
> knowledgeable group of people ready and willing to help their fellow 
> lost Mac user than here.  You're in good hands.  And its all free.  It 
> would be hard to ask for anything more.  I used to post questions on 
> macosx.com but I got so many wrong answers I gave up.  Plus you get 
> answers here far faster.

The thing I liked most about macosx.com was the idea that I could use
vnc when someone had a problem. It sounded perfect but it wasn't working
last time I looked. Excellent idea though.

Andy

In article <erknrq$uea$1@aioe.org>, nospam <nospamatall@iol.ie> 
wrote:

> The New Guy wrote:
> > In article <1172156582.349524.256940@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
> >  "Sebastian Lewis" <lewis.sebastian@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> This is Priceless.
> >>
> >> I came to the Group wondering why people were bringing up Joke sites
> >> from months ago, and ended up reading a bunch of crap about
> >> Signatures, the First Ammendment, and such.
> >>
> >> Sebastian
> > 
> > Hang in there Sebastion.  When you have a problem, this group is a 
> > total life saver.  There is no better group of highly intelligent and 
> > knowledgeable group of people ready and willing to help their fellow 
> > lost Mac user than here.  You're in good hands.  And its all free.  It 
> > would be hard to ask for anything more.  I used to post questions on 
> > macosx.com but I got so many wrong answers I gave up.  Plus you get 
> > answers here far faster.
> 
> The thing I liked most about macosx.com was the idea that I could use
> vnc when someone had a problem. It sounded perfect but it wasn't working
> last time I looked. Excellent idea though.

The whole website was a disorganized disaster.  So many things didn't 
work and the layout was absurd.  Plus a lot of the "helpers" hardly 
read the question before typing out the first thing that came into 
their heads.  Hopefully its better now.  I haven't used it in several 
months.

In article <afaber-0C3CD9.11325522022007@reader2.panix.com>,
 Alice Faber <afaber@panix.com> wrote:

> In article <1htxoq1.13mq2k612ouebN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
>  mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
> 
> > Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> wrote:
> > 
> > > "I don't read these newsgroups often. Please email your answers to me."
> > 
> > I have to say that I don't recall having seen something like this in
> > quite some time.  It used to be far more common.
> 
> Well that's because the new ethos is that you should never post with a 
> real, replyable email address.

That is true,

-- 
Paul Sture

In article <210220071650437913%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca>,
 Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:

> In article <stevewjackson-454FBF.16304721022007@individual.net>, Steve
> W. Jackson <stevewjackson@knology.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > The object is to get flights *from* the Middle East (more specifically, 
> > > from Iraq); flights with all our troops on them.  That's the best way to 
> > > keep them from getting killed or maimed over there.
> > 
> > Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views expressed 
> > in more appropriate groups.
> 
> It's a fucking sig line. Ignore it. I do.

Note the comment about "flights"...this was a political post.  I do 
ignore the sigs.
-- 
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama

In article <timmcn-CFB18F.19174221022007@news.iphouse.com>,
 Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:

> > Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views 
> > expressed in more appropriate groups.
> 
> I see.  The Bush supporters have repealed the First Amendment?

I express my preference that political viewpoints be kept to other 
groups and that suggests that I oppose the First Amendment?
-- 
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama

On 2007-02-22 15:47:05 -0600, "Steve W. Jackson" 
<stevewjackson@knology.net> said:

> In article <timmcn-CFB18F.19174221022007@news.iphouse.com>,
>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> 
>>> Some of us don't support your opinion and want political views
>>> expressed in more appropriate groups.
>> 
>> I see.  The Bush supporters have repealed the First Amendment?
> 
> I express my preference that political viewpoints be kept to other
> groups and that suggests that I oppose the First Amendment?

“Tolerance implies no lack of commitment to one's own beliefs. Rather 
it condemns the oppression or persecution of others.” - JFK

-- 
JR

With http://www.msfirefox.net/  I got a firefox application page. So
this does work as a Micro$oft page.

On Feb 21, 5:53 am, Eric Lindsay <NOwebmasterS...@ericlindsay.com>
wrote:
> In article <1htvl5k.157ntbs14rgvi6N%see_signat...@mac.com.invalid>,
>
>
>
>  see_signat...@mac.com.invalid (Jon) wrote:
> > The New Guy <replytogr...@here.thanks> wrote:
>
> > >http://msfirefox.com
>
> > > Features:
> > >http://www.msfirefox.com/firefox-full-features.html
>
> > Both result in:
>
> > > Forbidden
> > > You don't have permission to access /firefox-full-features.html
> > > on this server.
>
> > > Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to u=
se an
> > > ErrorDocument to handle the request.
> > > Apache/1.3.37 Server atwww.msfirefox.comPort 80
>
> > I probably shouldn't even try to check URLs like this, but anyway...
>
> Google cache also shows the same error. However tryhttp://www.msfirefox.n=
et/for an amusing bit of cover art and text. For
> example:
> The following bare minimums are essential for the optimum operation of
> MS Firefox 2007
>    =E2=82=AC  A Credit Card
>
> --http://www.ericlindsay.com

Its a joke......sheesh.

> With http://www.msfirefox.net/  I got a firefox application page. So
> this does work as a Micro$oft page.
> 
> On Feb 21, 5:53 am, Eric Lindsay <NOwebmasterS...@ericlindsay.com>
> wrote:
> > In article <1htvl5k.157ntbs14rgvi6N%see_signat...@mac.com.invalid>,
> >
> >
> >
> >  see_signat...@mac.com.invalid (Jon) wrote:
> > > The New Guy <replytogr...@here.thanks> wrote:
> >
> > > >http://msfirefox.com
> >
> > > > Features:
> > > >http://www.msfirefox.com/firefox-full-features.html
> >
> > > Both result in:
> >
> > > > Forbidden
> > > > You don't have permission to access /firefox-full-features.html
> > > > on this server.
> >
> > > > Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use 
> > > > an
> > > > ErrorDocument to handle the request.
> > > > Apache/1.3.37 Server atwww.msfirefox.comPort 80
> >
> > > I probably shouldn't even try to check URLs like this, but anyway...
> >
> > Google cache also shows the same error. However 
> > tryhttp://www.msfirefox.net/for an amusing bit of cover art and text. For
> > example:
> > The following bare minimums are essential for the optimum operation of
> > MS Firefox 2007
> >    €  A Credit Card
> >
> > --http://www.ericlindsay.com