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Will Mac OS X 10.7.x still get updates since 10.9 is now out?

Hello.

IIRC, Apple stop supporting and giving Mac OS X updates that are over 
two version old. Is 10.7 no longer getting updates even though I saw a 
Safari and iTunes update today?

Thank you in advance. :)
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In article <peqdnf9zzqfggvrPnZ2dnUVZ_vkAAAAA@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> IIRC, Apple stop supporting and giving Mac OS X updates that are over 
> two version old. Is 10.7 no longer getting updates even though I saw a 
> Safari and iTunes update today?

those are apps and can run on more than just lion.
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nospam59 (11089)
10/23/2013 1:35:30 AM
In message <peqdnf9zzqfggvrPnZ2dnUVZ_vkAAAAA@earthlink.com> 
  Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> Hello.

> IIRC, Apple stop supporting and giving Mac OS X updates that are over 
> two version old. Is 10.7 no longer getting updates even though I saw a 
> Safari and iTunes update today?

Since 10.9 is free, I would not be at all surprised if Apple dropped
support for 10.7 much sooner than they would otherwise. Most any machine
in the last 6 years can run 10.9.

(Yes, not every machine, but most of them).

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g.kreme (3671)
10/23/2013 2:26:14 AM
In article <peqdnf9zzqfggvrPnZ2dnUVZ_vkAAAAA@earthlink.com>,
 ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> IIRC, Apple stop supporting and giving Mac OS X updates that are over 
> two version old. Is 10.7 no longer getting updates even though I saw a 
> Safari and iTunes update today?
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)

10.6.8 is still getting security and iTunes updates.  It's quite 
possible that 10.7 will be ditched soon.  It's an unpopular release and 
it appears to have the same hardware requirements as the free 10.9.
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mcmurtrie (391)
10/23/2013 3:46:06 AM
Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> IIRC, Apple stop supporting and giving Mac OS X updates that are over
> two version old. Is 10.7 no longer getting updates even though I saw a
> Safari and iTunes update today?

Apple has different rules for different types of updates, and they don't
publish those rules so we can only deduce them based on evidence of when
they don't release an update when a corresponding one is released for
later systems.

Minor version updates are only released for the latest OS (sometimes
with an overlap of one last minor version update for the previous
system, as happened with 10.4.11 being released after 10.5, for
example). That means 10.8.5 is probably the final numbered version
update for Mountain Lion.

Apple's applications (with the exception of iTunes) typically start to
drop support for old OS X versions about one year after that OS X
version was superseded. For example, Apple stopped supporting 10.6 in
iLife and iWork updates after 10.8 was released, roughly one year after
10.7 superseded 10.6.

Sometimes Apple's applications cut off older systems faster, e.g. the
latest iLife and iWork updates have dropped support for 10.8 as soon as
it was superseded by 10.9. This will often be driven by the app needing
to use a feature which only exists in the latest OS.

iTunes is typically one of the last Apple applications to drop support
for old OS X versions. In the past it has continued to support older OS
X versions for about a year after the old OS X version stopped getting
security updates. For example, Apple dropped OS X 10.5 support in iTunes
10.7, which was released in September 2012, more than a year after the
last security update for OS X 10.5.8.

I expect the prolonged iTunes support for older OS X versions is to
encourage purchase of new iPods and iOS devices even if the Mac is
running a somewhat outdated OS (or is unable to upgrade to a later OS).

Cutoff of Safari updates has varied wildly. I think Apple is currently
doing Safari updates on the same basis as security updates. 10.6 and
10.7 each got one major Safari version update, but 10.8 has not been
updated to Safari 7.


Security update cutoffs are harder to judge.

For 10.5 and earlier, security updates ceased about when the second
subsequent major version was released (plus or minus one minor version):
10.3's last security update coincided with 10.5.1; 10.4's last security
update coincided with 10.6.1; 10.5's last security update coincided with
10.6.8.

10.6 has already broken that pattern, as it has continued to get
security updates for a year after 10.8 was released. We can't tell yet
whether Apple has switched to a "three major versions" rule, a timeframe
rule (due to the increased rate of major version releases) or a
popularity rule for determining when to cease security updates for older
versions.

If the support cutoff is three major versions, then 10.6 should stop
getting security updates about now, since 10.9 has just been released.

If the support cutoff is based on timeframe, then 10.3 through 10.5
stopped getting security updates around 4 years after they were
introduced (plus or minus a few months), around the time a subsequent
major version was released. 10.6 is just beyond the 4 year mark now, so
if Apple is working on a timeframe basis it should stop getting security
updates about now.

If it is based on popularity, then 10.6 might keep getting security
updates for a few more months. Apple will have more accurate data, but
third party web usage stats indicate 10.6 is still somewhat more popular
than 10.5 was at the point it stopped getting security updates.

10.7 should get security updates for at about another year (based on a
three versions rule), or possibly two years (based on a four year
support rule).

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dempson (3825)
10/23/2013 4:11:31 AM
On 13-10-22 23:46, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:

> 10.6.8 is still getting security and iTunes updates.  It's quite 
> possible that 10.7 will be ditched soon.  It's an unpopular release and 
> it appears to have the same hardware requirements as the free 10.9.

Many stayed on Snow Leopard because of the undesirable features of
Lion/Mountain Lion (and drop of the PPC emulation).  Those who went to
Lion welcomed Mountain Lion. So there are likely more people on Snow
Leopard than on Lion.

(Last I had heard, iut was somewhere around 30 to 35% of OS-X who were
at Snow Leopard, a large number considering its age).



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10/23/2013 4:18:07 AM
In article <52674e00$0$49507$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Many stayed on Snow Leopard because of the undesirable features of
> Lion/Mountain Lion (and drop of the PPC emulation).  Those who went to
> Lion welcomed Mountain Lion. So there are likely more people on Snow
> Leopard than on Lion.
> 
> (Last I had heard, iut was somewhere around 30 to 35% of OS-X who were
> at Snow Leopard, a large number considering its age).

one reason why mavericks is free. it's one less barrier to upgrade.
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nospam59 (11089)
10/23/2013 4:25:46 AM
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:

> In article <peqdnf9zzqfggvrPnZ2dnUVZ_vkAAAAA@earthlink.com>,
>  ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:
> 
> > IIRC, Apple stop supporting and giving Mac OS X updates that are over
> > two version old. Is 10.7 no longer getting updates even though I saw a
> > Safari and iTunes update today?
> 
> 10.6.8 is still getting security and iTunes updates.  It's quite 
> possible that 10.7 will be ditched soon.  It's an unpopular release

Web usage stats from Net Applications have put 10.7 and 10.6 almost neck
and neck in usage stats for several months, with a slight edge to 10.6.
10.8 is well ahead of both.

Other sources report different figures, with 10.6 being much more
popular than 10.7, and about equal with 10.8.

Apple will have more accurate figures, e.g. based on Software Update
requests.

> and it appears to have the same hardware requirements as the free 10.9.

10.9 has the same hardware requirements as 10.8.

10.7 is supported on quite a few models that can't officially run 10.8
or 10.9:

MacBook (Late 2006 through Late 2008)
MacBook Pro (Late 2006)
MacBook Air (Early 2008)
iMac (Late 2006)
Mac Mini (Mid 2007)
Mac Pro (Late 2006 through Early 2007)
Xserve (Late 2006 through Early 2008)

If Apple is going to support these models for at least five years after
they were discontinued, then they need to supply Lion security updates
until at least March 2014, for the mid 2007 Mac Mini which was
discontinued in March 2009 and is the last model sold new which can't
upgrade to 10.8 or 10.9.

These models can run 10.6 but not 10.7:

MacBook (Mid 2006)
MacBook Pro (Early 2006 to Mid 2006)
iMac (Early 2006)
Mac Mini (Early 2006 to Late 2006)

The last of these sold new was the Mac Mini (Late 2006), which was
discontinued in August 2007. On the basis of supporting that model for
five years, Apple should have stopped doing security updates for 10.6
around August 2012, but they have continued for more than another year,
so Apple's rule can't be as simple as a five year support window for the
last model unable to upgrade further.

The last PowerPC Macs got almost five years (PowerMac G5 discontinued
August 2006, Leopard's last security update was in July 2011).

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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dempson (3825)
10/23/2013 4:47:53 AM
Wow, that's confusing and complex! I really wished Apple had a product 
life cycle chart like Microsoft/MS does.


> Apple has different rules for different types of updates, and they don't
> publish those rules so we can only deduce them based on evidence of when
> they don't release an update when a corresponding one is released for
> later systems.

> Minor version updates are only released for the latest OS (sometimes
> with an overlap of one last minor version update for the previous
> system, as happened with 10.4.11 being released after 10.5, for
> example). That means 10.8.5 is probably the final numbered version
> update for Mountain Lion.

> Apple's applications (with the exception of iTunes) typically start to
> drop support for old OS X versions about one year after that OS X
> version was superseded. For example, Apple stopped supporting 10.6 in
> iLife and iWork updates after 10.8 was released, roughly one year after
> 10.7 superseded 10.6.

> Sometimes Apple's applications cut off older systems faster, e.g. the
> latest iLife and iWork updates have dropped support for 10.8 as soon as
> it was superseded by 10.9. This will often be driven by the app needing
> to use a feature which only exists in the latest OS.

> iTunes is typically one of the last Apple applications to drop support
> for old OS X versions. In the past it has continued to support older OS
> X versions for about a year after the old OS X version stopped getting
> security updates. For example, Apple dropped OS X 10.5 support in iTunes
> 10.7, which was released in September 2012, more than a year after the
> last security update for OS X 10.5.8.

> I expect the prolonged iTunes support for older OS X versions is to
> encourage purchase of new iPods and iOS devices even if the Mac is
> running a somewhat outdated OS (or is unable to upgrade to a later OS).

> Cutoff of Safari updates has varied wildly. I think Apple is currently
> doing Safari updates on the same basis as security updates. 10.6 and
> 10.7 each got one major Safari version update, but 10.8 has not been
> updated to Safari 7.


> Security update cutoffs are harder to judge.

> For 10.5 and earlier, security updates ceased about when the second
> subsequent major version was released (plus or minus one minor version):
> 10.3's last security update coincided with 10.5.1; 10.4's last security
> update coincided with 10.6.1; 10.5's last security update coincided with
> 10.6.8.

> 10.6 has already broken that pattern, as it has continued to get
> security updates for a year after 10.8 was released. We can't tell yet
> whether Apple has switched to a "three major versions" rule, a timeframe
> rule (due to the increased rate of major version releases) or a
> popularity rule for determining when to cease security updates for older
> versions.

> If the support cutoff is three major versions, then 10.6 should stop
> getting security updates about now, since 10.9 has just been released.

> If the support cutoff is based on timeframe, then 10.3 through 10.5
> stopped getting security updates around 4 years after they were
> introduced (plus or minus a few months), around the time a subsequent
> major version was released. 10.6 is just beyond the 4 year mark now, so
> if Apple is working on a timeframe basis it should stop getting security
> updates about now.

> If it is based on popularity, then 10.6 might keep getting security
> updates for a few more months. Apple will have more accurate data, but
> third party web usage stats indicate 10.6 is still somewhat more popular
> than 10.5 was at the point it stopped getting security updates.

> 10.7 should get security updates for at about another year (based on a
> three versions rule), or possibly two years (based on a four year
> support rule).
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10/23/2013 8:21:04 PM
Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> IIRC, Apple stop supporting and giving Mac OS X updates that are over
> two version old. Is 10.7 no longer getting updates even though I saw a
> Safari and iTunes update today?

Well, the "two version rule" really predates the switch to an annual OS
release cycle. A better indicator might be time, which seems to be two
years from the date an OS version is superseded to the date it gets its
last security update. 

To supplement David Empson's posts in this thread, here's a table with
dates of release, replacement, and last update for recent OS X versions.

Vers   Released  Replaced  Updated 

10.4   2005-04   2007-10   2009-09 
10.5   2007-10   2009-08   2011-06 
10.6   2009-08   2011-07   2013-09 
10.7   2011-07   2012-07   2013-09 

As David notes, Apple might support 10.7 for at least another year in
order to accommodate the Mac mini model that wasn't discontinued until
March 2009. 

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nmassello2 (168)
10/23/2013 9:55:54 PM
On 13-10-23 17:55, Neill Massello wrote:

> As David notes, Apple might support 10.7 for at least another year in
> order to accommodate the Mac mini model that wasn't discontinued until
> March 2009. 

One also has to consider the ease of making security updates.  Is a
fairly standard part of the OS that hasn't changed much, making a patch
for multuple versions is easier compared to something that was rewritten
between 2 versions.

So commonality between Lion, Mountain Lion and Mavericks on specific
components will also help dictate how much longer Apple spends money to
update older versions.

For instance, if Itunes for Mavericks already has code to disable all
the iCloud stuff for Mavericks users who have disabled it, then
backporting to to Snow Leopard which doesnt have cloud stuff is fairly
easy. (and if the code base is fairly common with the Windows version
which doesn't have iCloud support (I assume), then continued support of
Snow Leopard is easy.

But backporting patches for memory management would require more work
because each version likely has fairly different code bases and logic.
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10/23/2013 10:10:11 PM
Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> 
> > IIRC, Apple stop supporting and giving Mac OS X updates that are over
> > two version old. Is 10.7 no longer getting updates even though I saw a
> > Safari and iTunes update today?
> 
> Well, the "two version rule" really predates the switch to an annual OS
> release cycle. A better indicator might be time, which seems to be two
> years from the date an OS version is superseded to the date it gets its
> last security update.

I like it. This works similarly to my "four years from introduction"
idea, but makes more sense for the likely version usage pattern in
future given annual releases. It is also tighter.

Two years plus or minus two months seems to cover it, at least for 10.4
and 10.5 (and 10.6 if it has had its last update).

10.3 doesn't fit: released 2003-10, replaced 2005-04, last update
2007-11 (two years and seven months). This might just indicate that
Apple changed the rule after 10.5: up to that point it was two major
versions supported at once (with a brief overlap after a new version was
released).

I'm still puzzled why 10.5 seemed to miss out on one cycle of security
updates (its last security udpate was at the same time as 10.6.8 rather
than 10.7.1), which also cut the hardware support window just below 5
years for the last PowerMac G5s.

It may have just been a timing issue: 10.7.0 and 10.7.1 didn't include
security fixes, and 10.7.2 was 2011-10, which might have been a month
too late for Leopard to get a final security update under Apple's
policy. If so, then 10.6 has already done better.

It is worth noting that Safari for Leopard got security fixes in
2011-07.

> To supplement David Empson's posts in this thread, here's a table with
> dates of release, replacement, and last update for recent OS X versions.
> 
> Vers   Released  Replaced  Updated 
> 
> 10.4   2005-04   2007-10   2009-09 
> 10.5   2007-10   2009-08   2011-06 
> 10.6   2009-08   2011-07   2013-09+
> 10.7   2011-07   2012-07   2013-09+

I've added a plus next to the "Updated" column for 10.6 and 10.7 to
indicate they might not have had their last security updates yet (almost
certainly more to come for 10.7; 10.6 is much more likely to be at its
last update).

> As David notes, Apple might support 10.7 for at least another year in
> order to accommodate the Mac mini model that wasn't discontinued until
> March 2009. 


-- 
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dempson (3825)
10/24/2013 12:03:05 AM
On 2013-10-22 17:59:41 -0700, ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) said:

> Hello.
> 
> IIRC, Apple stop supporting and giving Mac OS X updates that are over
> two version old. Is 10.7 no longer getting updates even though I saw a
> Safari and iTunes update today?
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)

Several developers have also stopped support for OS 10.6.8, the most 
conspicuous of those is Adobe with Lightroom 5 and any of the CC 
modules, these require OSX 10.7 or later. The last versions of 
Lightroom and Photoshop able to run on OSX 10.6.8 are LR4 & PS CS6.


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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Savageduck
10/24/2013 1:24:33 AM
On 10-23-2013, 16:21, Ant wrote:
> Wow, that's confusing and complex! I really wished Apple had a product
> life cycle chart like Microsoft/MS does.

You wish Apple would tell you every other day not to power off our 
computer because it is installing updates?

I tried to update Skype today in my admin account.  "The update cannot 
be completed because Skype could not be overwritten.  Please update from 
the account that owns the Skype folder."

Evidence that Microsoft STILL doesn't understand security.

-- 
Wes Groleau

    After the christening of his baby brother in church, Jason sobbed
    all the way home in the back seat of the car.  His father asked him
    three times what was wrong.  Finally, the boy replied, “That preacher
    said he wanted us brought up in a Christian home, and I wanted to
    stay with you guys."

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news31 (6772)
10/24/2013 2:00:54 AM
> Well, the "two version rule" really predates the switch to an annual OS
> release cycle. A better indicator might be time, which seems to be two
> years from the date an OS version is superseded to the date it gets its
> last security update. 

> To supplement David Empson's posts in this thread, here's a table with
> dates of release, replacement, and last update for recent OS X versions.

> Vers   Released  Replaced  Updated 

> 10.4   2005-04   2007-10   2009-09 
> 10.5   2007-10   2009-08   2011-06 
> 10.6   2009-08   2011-07   2013-09 
> 10.7   2011-07   2012-07   2013-09 

> As David notes, Apple might support 10.7 for at least another year in
> order to accommodate the Mac mini model that wasn't discontinued until
> March 2009. 

Ah thanks. So, over four/4 years. :) Wow, I didn't know 10.5 came out in 
late 2007.
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10/24/2013 7:51:23 PM
Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> Where can I get those redhairs, cats, Ford Fiestas, etc. Are there ant
> editions too? ;)

You have to pay extra for the six-legged edition, but bugs come with all
versions. 

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nmassello2 (168)
10/24/2013 8:21:12 PM
Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> > Where can I get those redhairs, cats, Ford Fiestas, etc. Are there ant
> > editions too? ;)

> You have to pay extra for the six-legged edition, but bugs come with all
> versions. 

Yeah? URL? ;)
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ANTant (1370)
10/24/2013 8:43:24 PM
On 2013.10.24, 16:21 , Neill Massello wrote:
> Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>
>> Where can I get those redhairs, cats, Ford Fiestas, etc. Are there ant
>> editions too? ;)
>
> You have to pay extra for the six-legged edition, but bugs come with all
> versions.

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